>Russia literally declared a no CB war against Ukraine and took Crimea
What's their aggressive expansion at right now?
This. Russia need a new holiday spot.
belarus already tried that but it would cost russia too much money
don't get why russia wants ukraine so much. there economy was going to the shitter when oil prices were dropping, getting sanctions and wasting money on war is retarded
As we all know here in Russia all media are used for propoganda purposes. Many of my fellows started believing this bullshit as a proof of my words you can see Russians in this thread behaving aggressively towards Ukraine. Before this crimea thing all Russians loved Ukraine very much and saw us as brethren slavs. So, I can assure you every Russian who's saying things like >>53814399 are just brainwashed retards.
How I'm brainwashed retard?
We couldn't annex more their territories - no reasons, can't afford it, too many unloyal population which could partisan, too hard to defend such borders(unlike Crimea which is peninsula with short land-bridge to guard).
Yes our politicians want to fuck up Ukraine - to show that revolutions are bad and don't end up well and that pro-west course is bad. Because they are afraid of such happenings in Russia itself - Ukraine is very similar country with similar people and if they become successful without authoritarian rule it would be dangerous example.
At some point our security council voted to allow us to use troops aboard. It was cancelled later.
Some Ukrainian media almost interpreted it as declaration of war. But they haven't declared war on us despite always talking we are at war. They haven't stopped trade or break diplomatic relations.
Why not Israel then? Half of your country speaks Russian. lol
>As we all know here in Russia all media are used for propoganda purposes.
I think that's the main function of all media and why it was invented, ivan.
You have to learn how to watch the news and interpret how the "powers that be" try to program your mind.
If you cannot, just turn off your radio and TVs
I got rid of my TV 5 years ago and have reduced my stress levels significantly.
Propaganda workers eat their bread for a reason.
No matter how smart are you and how you interpret what you see there are things which appeal to you and you eat propaganda even on unconsciousness level. And then when you watch free media - some western channels - you feel butthurt because of the truth and refuse to believe even if you know it's true.
I remember my first vata feelings were felt during 2008 Georgian war. I were so proud of Russia being strong and "Georgian rats" being kicked(despite I actually like Georgia and Georgians and supported their anti-corruption pro-democratic path). Same feelings were felt when we invaded Ukraine. Only later I sober up a bit.
poutaine is ex KGB, what did you think his main goal was going to be?
To ensure russia and its shitty former soviet states remain "democracies"
the jig is up, and the shoah is ending
Yes and no. No because true media ought to be impartial. And also because almost in all places there are media from all points of view. Good luck searching not pro-Putin media in Russia
Eh? Not even talking about internet and radio/newspapers, but Dozhd? RBC? Euronews?
If you have basic command in English or some other language you can watch whatever you want - everyone has cable/ip tv/satelite dish. I sometimes watch DW and France24 when eating breakfast.
You also won't believe it but we have a government organization that recruits people to write comments in Internet. They disguise themselves as "internet research center" . Hundreds of thousands of comments. Sounds mad? Yep
Everyone has those bots those days sadly. Not only governments but sometimes huge companies.
>You also won't believe it but we have a government organization that recruits people to write comments in Internet.
they dont even need to do that
just a computer with bots on it.
israeli russians actually want to be israeli .
ukranian russians are only in ukraine because some soviet idiot put their district in the soviet SSR for some retarded reason but no one cared too much because its still in the soviet union until shit broke up and they ended up with batshit retarded ukranians .
They are always pressed by government. The recent actions of kadyrov were towards "echo" and "dozhd". Etc etc.
And yes, you can do whatever you want to, but I'm talking about common people.
>Another part want to be in Ukraine.
im pretty sure ukranians took care of that in the last couple of years . i mean there's plenty of footage of them just shooting unarmed civilians in russian-majority areas .
In the end people just want peace and their houses not being destroyed. Russia don't want and can't provide it and Ukraine won't let them go.
So I guess many people who even initially supported pro-russian things now regret it. They thought it would be smooth and bloodless like in Crimea and Russia would give them larger pensions.