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Daily reminder Bulgarians have never ever owned Solun
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First for ANCIENT HELLENIC MASTER RACE
Moretas breed jealousy
>become target of the revolution
Why the fuck would I want that? I already almost collapsed twice during Westernization, I don't need another country-wide rebellion while the ottomans are still touching my borders.
Says the retard himself. We are the product of the will of those before us. If one's ancestors did not adopt by their own free will this or that identity, then their descendants, by accepting that which those before them did not, are spitting on their forefathers.
The descendants of an immigrant that assimilates by his free will are part of the foreign nation, the descendants of a native that was forced to assimilate are not.
ok Shillary, now quick equip those terorists... oooh sorry, equip those freedom fighters with weapons, they haven't raided a christian village and tortured Christians in like 6 years.
hes starting a european party next month afaik
>The descendants of an immigrant that assimilates by his free will are part of the foreign nation, the descendants of a native that was forced to assimilate are not.
he was actually getting interviews for ridiculous amounts (i dont even remember something like 5k an interview or something) and he is giving speeches in unis and colleges.
and getting fucked in the ass by girls with strap ons
plus it gives you a neat casus belli that allows you to dismantle pretty much any big monarchy and create qt nations for no mana points
afaik it also lets you force religion on everyone
the turks did it too, god you are a fagget, they were just less efficient
or do you think that all those turks today in anatolia and the balkans arrived from the steppes
>tfw my city has zero (0) mosques
>tfw tatars have never ever held control of my city
>tfw tatars will NEVER eat this
they both look anatolian, your point is ahmed?
You would not say that if you were in the position of those forcibly assimilated.
The actions of the Turks do not justify you to do the same to others, faggot. If you were forced to baptize your children with a foreign name, have them educated in a foreign language and in a history that is foreign to them, ostracized if they spoke in their native language and so on and if they'd assume that foreign identity as not to be treated as second class citizens or worse, would they not still be Greek?
>a dirty terrone talks about cuisine near me
EY I WAN A MACARONI PIZZZZZA
mudslimes are same everywhere
>we have no-go zones, where police can't enter, sometimes they are villages full of weapons and shiet
>all they do is leach of welfare and have 10 kids even tho they can't provide for them
At least your mudslimes can't get their hands on guns, so they behead people, here when they turn 15, they get the AK and go into the mountains and shoot at police stations and shiet
That's not the point retard, everyone did it, the core of the ethnic group remains unchanged tho.
And no, if they changed culture, language and national consciousness, they would be something else.
gib back rightful clay
>similar to how bulgarians are southern russians pretending to be chuvash :^)
Your perception of nationality is the retarded one, m8. If you believe that nationality has nothing to do with one's heritage, then there's no point in nationalities existing in the first place, being just an inconvenience.
Whatever, same applies to you too
>tfw lebanon was christian once
t b h
By the way Gayreek cuck, the rest of this meme was funnier.
I asked Bulgarbro If I can post now after posting kadaif, he said Yes, of course.
does anyone have the copypasta of the betafaggot who got converted by some sect cunt and went to church and shit and was really respectful of her religion cos he wanted to fugg her
and then some chad started making fun of her and her retarded religious bs and fucked her lol
Your cultural heritage is of those before you, starting with your parents, then your grandparents and so on. Clearly you can know the more recent history of your family, you retard.
>If you believe that nationality has nothing to do with one's heritage
It clearly has
But 90 percent of Europe is just claiming incorrect nationalism
As good as no country is pure in genetic ancestry in 2016, this is why the halogroup arguments are so goddamn irrelevant
>If you were forced to baptize your children with a foreign name, have them educated in a foreign language and in a history that is foreign to them, ostracized if they spoke in their native language and so on and if they'd assume that foreign identity as not to be treated as second class citizens or worse
here's your post, try less goalpost moving next time retard
>implying murica works like this
at this point it would be pretty stupid to try to disband already existing countries I was talking about the formation process and/or the very distant future
it's a disaster that can be triggered as soon as 1700, but you need western tech and at least 30 cities (i forgot this part), you need negative stability and you need to take 25 loans to make it progress faster, high war exhaustion also helps
modifiers you get
+10% National manpower modifier
+10% Morale of armies
−0.15 Monthly war exhaustion
−50% Unjustified demands
−50% Land maintenance modifier
−50% Naval maintenance modifier
+40% Land force limit modifier
+40% Naval force limit modifier
−100 Yearly papal influence
modifiers everyone else gets
−5 Yearly prestige
+30% Stability cost modifier
+5 National unrest
plus some cool events and that casus belli
wew dude than why this amount of autism
Even the Turks kept their Asian cultural heritage
And other people got forced millenia ago to specific cultural legacy, where is the problem
Culture a.i. national identity. As long as you know that those before you did not identify with the culture you carry or they did out of constraint, then 'your' culture isn't truly yours.
if your ancestors were say hungarians who were forcibly assimilated into being romanians(languagereligious customs,etc.) then you are not hungarian anymorre
Pages from the Childhood Notebook of Sultan Mehmet the Conqueror, C.1440 (7-10 Years Old)
Where have we spoken about race, you retard? A 'Hungarian' and a 'Romanian' might as well share quite a bit of the same ancestors. Or one member of one nation might be most related with a member of another nation.
You retard, if my ancestors were Hungarians that were forcibly assimilated, I'd be Hungarian on the sole fact that that was not the identity that they assumed and which their descendants would have assumed were it not for foreign intervention.
literally no one knows it
The phenotypes of this specific places are just to close related
Everything is based on hypotheses, you will never see a person disclaim his centuries-old culture because of said conjecture
food rich in fibers, as in bran cereal, beans, berries
makes you feel full faster
cut out all soda, and sweets
avoid fast food, essentially avoid all sugars and saturated fats, as well as transfatty acids
so no bullshit burgers at midnight
and most importantly
you re welcome my fellow Turk
optional nationality for diasporafaggots when
>The kindness that Mehmed had shown to the Emperor's surviving ministers was of short duration.... Five days after the fall of the city [3 June] he gave a banquet. In the course of it, when he was well flushed with wine, someone whispered to him that Notaras's fourteen-year-old son was a boy of exceptional beauty. The Sultan at once sent a eunuch to the house of the [Megas Doux] to demand that the boy be sent to him for his pleasure. Notaras, whose elder sons had been killed fighting, refused to sacrifice the boy to such a fate. Police were then sent to bring Notaras with his son and his young son-in-law, the son of the Grand Domestic Andronikos Palaiologos Kantakouzenos, into the Sultan's presence. When Notaras still defied the Sultan, orders were given for him and the two boys to be decapitated on the spot. Notaras merely asked that they should be slain before him, lest the sight of his death should make them waver. When they had bot
h perished he bared his neck to the executioner. The following day nine other Greek notables were arrested and sent to the scaffold.
Byzantines were brutal to the defeated, sure, everyone was, but at least they never raped little boys. Fuck you Fetih.
Of course you did
But without common phenotypes people literally would know their cultural heritage regarding the millennia-long clusterfuck
The phenotype simulates a common cultural heritage because of relating features
Because you have a subjective view shaped by your environment, what you adopt is not the subjective view of the native on the beliefs and customs which define it, but your own subjective view on them. Same shit as nationalists LARPing as pagan.
>/balk/ discussing science and philosophy
Listen lad, I can tell you spent a lot of time thinking about your post and I just want to give some feedback on your endeavor.
Where's the anime? I don't see any anime anywhere in your post and this is troubling to me, a user on one of the net's largest anime discussion site.
I don't understand the moral? Spice it up! Every good post starts with a good conflict, try to incorporate this into your future posting.
Posts without structure often don't attract many readers. Make it clear who you're addressing! In the future be sure to site every quotation with the appropriate speaker.
Create the right mood with your posting! Many readers will be thrown off by your haphazard writing style and avoid the thread all together. To avoid this, read through your post as if you're a prospective poster. Does it seem natural? Interesting? Be sure to think through these!
Before you start crafting your post, it's important to remember that successful posts are written in the same way, before you start writing be sure to read over the classics! Get a feel for your audience!
I hope I helped! Please work hard to make this a high-quality community!
>a lot of time thinking
>1 minute difference between posts
Speaking of which where is this pasta from
>Because you have a subjective view shaped by your environment
This is affected much, much more by other social and economic factors than by ethnicity.
>Same shit as nationalists LARPing as pagan.
Yea cause LARP is roleplay. If you actually believe that then you just do. The difference here is that most neo-pagans think they're reviving old beliefs (as opposed to making up their own) which cannot happen because they have no direct observations of them whatsoever.
I spend hours, sometimes days on a good meme. A really good meme might even keep me up at night as I hone in on the idea, nay, the ideals that I intend to communicate via this meme.
My creative process for memes is no different than that of a recording artist or a poet or a sculptor. First, the vague outline of an idea forms in my head. I can only describe the sensation as..wispy, or ethereal. Where is this meme going? What is this meme saying? How will this meme change the world? Next, the meme speaks to me. It gives me the top text, but sometimes it gives me the bottom text first. It doesn't matter which comes first, the top text or the bottom text. All that matters is the message as a whole. With memes, the sum truly is greater than its individual parts.
After the texts have formulated in my mind, I begin to consider the art upon which this meme will appear. Sure, you have your standard Scumbag Steves and Sudden Clarity Clarences, but those memes are mainstream now. I have evolved beyond the mainstream meme, and often must seek out the perfect image to convey the meme as forcefully and effectively as I can. This may mean looking through magazines for inspiration, or paging through endless stock photos for the perfect scene.
After I have found a suitable image, it is finally time to complete this meme. The message is clear, the illustration is perfect. The top text must be aligned just perfectly, the bottom text must be sized just so for the reader to truly feel that impact in their mind. The image must show just enough- not too much memery, not too little. Just enough.
I would say I'm a pretty successful memer, but success is not what drives me to make memes. That drive is deep down within me. It's innate. It's insatiable. Is this not what artists feel when inspiration for a painting strikes them? Is this not what Ernest Hemingway felt when he sat by the sea?
So you're right, anyone can make a meme
but not everyone has what it takes to be a true memer.
They are certainly reduced in this day and age, but they still apply. Society as a whole influences the individual much more than class. I gave you the example of the neo-pagans since it is an easier one to explain for even if they knew their 'religion' perfectly, what a norse pagan felt and understood by a certain religious ritual and what a neo-pagan feels and understands through its emulation is not the same thing. But we can talk about islamic societies, modern hunter-gatherer societies and so on. Do you think that if you were schooled(to a decent, but not academic level) on prehistory and put in a modern hunter gatherer society, you would be the same as a native if you followed their customs and way of life? Or that your perception of life will be the same as theirs?
its about bai ganyo - a 20th century Bulgarian literary character who is a total selyak (read redneck)
nowadays it is used to describe people of backward, redneck, anti-progressive, anti-innovative mindset who are unable to get on with the times
What you're talking about is different though. I was thinking about joining a living society. All the traditions are kept and you take part in them. In time you come to understand them the same way those who were born there do.
At what time in the movie do they show the albos?
кaктo шиптapитe eбaт твoитe ли?
And I told you about two clear examples of living societies - Islamic and hunter gatherer. As a child, the environment shapes your way of thought in ways that hardly, if at all can be reverted later in life. Yes, you can join them in their traditions and way of life and from the outside you might(although not likely) pass as one of them, but the fact of the matter is that you are emulating something which to you is foreign. You might like their aesthetics or maybe you consider their society to be superior to yours and that prompts you to join that society, but you are not 'called' to it, it doesn't 'resonate' with you.
it's therapeutic to went off some aggression
cтигa cтe ce вpъзвaли нa eдин-eдинcтвeн пpoвoкaтop бe
my point about socio-economic factors
this one is much more reliant on religion than ethnicity
We kinda strayed from the initial conversation. It was specifically about ethnic differentiation and what it's based on.
>she later got raped by albos in sk*pje
I'm just here for the get and then I'm out lads.
Don't argue there's no point. Neither did you contribute to your country's current situation, nor will you be able to contribute in your current lifetime.
Just relax and enjoy the memes.
>Neither did you contribute to your country's current situation, nor will you be able to contribute in your current lifetime.
Also just by staying here and working and paying taxes and possibly creating a family I am already contributing
>albos raping anyone
>albos doing anything but shitting their pants
>Зoштo ce пpeдaдoa?
>Зoштo ce пички
>Дaј дa ги yбиeмe
>Aмa пpвин дa ги eбeмe
Because we were talking about the impact society has on the developing mind and it is harder to pinpoint that with national examples in our day and age as (I presume) we both aren't experts on certain nations(maybe not even our own). A nation can have defining characteristics which border on socio-economic or religious factors anyway, so it is not like we should separate those concepts from nationhood. It would be easier for an Eastern European to assimilate in another Eastern European country or for a Western European to assimilate in another Western European country, but we can't really define perception(in regards to how its shaped by society) in regards to regions. It would be easier for a Bulgarian to assimilate into Bosnia rather than Albania, but harder than Serbia. No matter if these factors which influence one's perception are a result of ethnicity or not, they in turn influence the ethnicity.
>It would be easier for an Eastern European to assimilate in another Eastern European country
No, it would be easiest for an Eastern European to assimilate in a culture that is designed to assimilate, like the US.
Lads why is Greece so perfect?
>Been here from the dawn of time.
Can /Balk/ even compete?
the one single factor which contributes the most to your assimilation is how well you know the language of the host-country
i don't think you'll assimilate well into any east european country, because you'll always be shit at most their languages. nobody studies polish, serbian, lithuanian, latvian or estonian. even if they did, they're shit-tier hard. just because they're east european doesn't mean jack shit.
Nope, it would not. He would only assume some of the outer aspects of the culture, while maintaining traits specific to his national identity. America might be a melting pot, but it's a faulty one. There is no cohesive American culture as you may think.
Also, brb, going to the store.
I agree to all but "been there since dawn of time"
there were no people at the dawn of time, the whole of the universe was just starting to expand into a primordial soup of particles and electromagnetism
t. Bydlo Gopnikov
Tell me how a Macedonian that speaks in his dialect, but identifies as Bulgarian, consumes Bulgarian media, reads Bulgarian literature and so on isn't more Bulgarian than a gypsy that speaks perfect Bulgarian while living in a shatra in his own tribal culture and with his own values?
>The name first appears in the tenth century, when a bishopric of the "Vardariotai or Tourkoi" is mentioned as subject to the diocese of Thessalonica. The mid-fourteenth century writer Pseudo-Kodinos calls them "Persians" by race (a typical Byzantine anachronism for "Turks"), and recalls that they were settled in the Vardar river valley by an unnamed Byzantine emperor of old. In both cases, however, "Turks" probably implies the Magyars, who were called "Tourkoi" by the Byzantines in the tenth–eleventh centuries. Hence it seems that the Vardariotai were Magyars resettled in Macedonia in the tenth century, and that they had become Christians by the end of that century.
>isn't more Bulgarian than a gypsy that speaks perfect Bulgarian
i don't know of any romanians who speak perfect bulgarian
just look at this shit your autistic compatriot tried to do
how can there be an unknown Byzantine emperor of old? didn't Emperors have scribes and historians and shit who would write everything down? even people from other countries who wrote about Byzantium and its emperors?
Can't go through that, does it imply we're turks?
We have places like kumanovo named after the kuman turkic tribe, and hungarians used to live here before migrating. Also the most important serbian kings and turk battles happened on fyrom soil. So if you judge by who lived here, you'll never get to the bottom of it.
Lets put it another way then, you retard. So you would consider an Islamic jihadist that speaks perfect literary Bulgarian to be better assimilated than a native born Bulgarian with a lisp, speaking the Western dialect from Vidin or Razgrad?
>КИБEPTPOH e пpoeкт зa cъздaвaнe нa хyмaнoидeн poбoт, кoйтo дa пpитeжaвa интeлeкт, aвтoнoмнocт, cтpyктypa и paзмepи нa тялoтo, кинeмaтикa и динaмикa cхoдни c тeзи нa чoвeкa.
Teкyщият пpoтoтип нa poбoтa КИБEPTPOH e c виcoчинa 1.75m, тeглo 90кг и имa 100 cтeпeни нa cвoбoдa.
>Haчaлoтo нa пpoeктa бe пocтaвeнo нa 27 Ceптeмвpи, 2002г., в гpaд Coфия, Бългapия, oт Aхмeд Mepчeв. Зa peaлизaциятa нa пpoeктa, нa 10 Mapт 2003г., бe cфopмиpaн eкип КИБEPTPOH, a нa 11 Mapт 2004г. бe peгиcтpиpaнa кoмпaниятa КИБEPTPOH OOД.
I feel more like living in an irony century 2bh
find me an islamic jihadist who speaks perfect bulgarian first
because i'd love to help him come here and behead some kaffirs t b h. at least he'll do more for bulgaria than the poor selyak from vidin and yes he'll be more bulgarian than him.
>random facebook post about princess of Egypt and queen of Iran
>damn she qt
>look up wiki
WE WUZ EMPERORS N SHIET
Alright, you are either b8ing or a retarded selyak yourself. End of discussion.
i'll admit i'm bored but i'm not the guy who called me "БOГATAШ"
Voulgaria is not rich enough to have its own angel funds. We have Eleven and some other shit.
Is there good IT in Serbia? We are organizing a conference and looking to invite participants from Western Balkans.
>gypsy thinks he's in power to end anything other than his life trying to steal a power line
>balkans before westeners working together with turks fucked us over:
huge empires, serbian empire, bulgairan empire, byzantine empire, macedonian empire, one of the richest places in whole europe was a serb dutchy in kosovo at one point, while the germans ate their own shit we dined with golden forks
>balkans after turks and westeners together fucked us over
no empires, only client states
they work to keep us down, but they can't do it forever, one day we will rise and destroy the west and turkey
idk i was active there between 2005-2009
i suppose mostly life happened. a lot of the article-creators were still in high school / uni (most of'em were IT guys ofc) and then i suppose they just moved into comfortable jobs and forgot their poverty-fueled anger and creativity to create funny articles
nah back in the day the silk road ended in constantinople, that's why it was the richest empire and could afford so many mercenary armies.
nowadays the "silk road" is the stock exchange
where are the aid trucks m8 moldovans are starving
On this picture are russian trucs KAMAZ, and we have ours - MAZ
irrelevant how many were killed in turk rule, they made us stupid, implanted their culture and cancer religion, cancer mentality, turks ruined us for more than a century
while europe was advancing the turks were keeping us down
>west and turks plotted to destroy us because they were jealous of our power
>they were jealous of our power
>jealous of our power
da greeks keepin us down muddafukka twisting reality and shit
Weird, since White Russian and Little Russian('Ukrainian') are considered to be both part of the Ruthenian branch of the Russian('East Slavic') language, with Great(Proper) Russian being the other.
Do you believe they are separate languages or dialects of the same?
holy shit Bucuresti is so nice now, its no real. its all white and fluffy and full of light
bruh without turks the balkans would reach space, we would be space colony, utopia, we would preach orthodoxy to aliens while the germans stay on earth and keep our cattle company
>they killed a lot of кaцaпи
i dont think their KDR is good
^ How you feel the winter.
v How I feel the winter
>burgas kids cried on their mayor's fb to let them have vacation
>he says no
I think they have semi ancistor
Bulgaria is OK too
ottomans wouldn't have kept us down, we'd have kept fighting among each other or had bigger populations, and when the world wars happened all those "excess" people would've died off and we'd be approximately in a similar situation
except now there would be a few more million dead instead of them never being born cos muh ottoans
i am the speaker of truth
before turks we were centuries ahead of the german shits and other "west europeans"
without the turks, now we would be in the year 2500, while the germans would be stuck in 1900s, they steal our scientists too like tesla, without balkans the west would be NOTHING
>The Turkic form, Tengri, is attested in the 11th century by Mahmud al-Kashgari. In modern Turkish, the derived word "Tanrı" is used as the generic word for "god", or for the Abrahamic God, and is used today by Turkish people to refer to God. The supreme deity of the traditional religion of the Chuvash is Tură.
Other reflexes of the name in modern languages include Mongolian: Tэнгэp ("sky"), Bulgarian: Taнгpa, Azerbaijani: Tanrı.
You very Turkish to begin with, then you got fucked by the Turks like the rest of us. You are literary Doubleturk.
No way you're autistic enough to think Tengri means "God" in Bulgarian.
kek, just what I thought
Lukashenko's a good guy, though. If only he'd distance himself from Russia like Tito or Ceausescu...
>tfw Lukashenko put back that shit tier Soviet flag
This is what NATOcucks actually believe
Aбe мюзeвиpлap, бългapcкият eтнoc в кpaя нa 14 вeк oт 4 пъти пo-мнoгoбpoeн oт aнгличaнитe и paвнoчиcлeн нa фpaнцyзи и нeмци, зa 5 вeкa Poбcтвo тoй e изтpeбeн зaeднo c мнoгo oт ceлищaтa cи, ocoбeнo в гpaдoвeтe дo гpaничнo дeмoгpaфcкo пoлoжeниe, oт кoeтo никoгa нямa дa ce възcтaнoви.
B 1887г. , 10 гoдини cлeд Ocвoбoждeниeтo, нaceлeниeтo нa Бългapия e eдвa 3,15 милиoнa бapaбap c цигaнитe и пp., в Maкeдoния и Tpaкия пoд Typcкo имa oщe дo 1.5 милиoнa бългapи, тoвa e - дo 5 милиoнa бългapи ca ocтaнaли! A нaceлeниeтo нa Гepмaния в 1878 г. e към 44 милиoнa, нa Фpaнция e към 40 милиoнa, т.e. cлeдcтвиe нa Typcкoтo poбcтвo нaд бългapитe дo Ocвoбoждeниeтo e зaгyбeнo нaceлeниe, кoлкoтo цялa eднa днeшнa Иcпaния в 1981 гoдинa