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Why do many languages have genders? What is the point in them? They are not even logical as they do not go along gender role lines.
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the more complex the language is, the more intelligent people speaking it are

~winstone churchill
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>>53780417
That table is clearly female
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>>53780417
Because if you say your cousin is a doctor in english, i gotta ask if it's a girl or a boy.
But if you say it in spanish i already know the gender so it saves me time to ask if she's fuckable
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>>53780417
Do you feel trigered by language? doesnt fit your pansexual special snowflake theory?
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>>53780546
Of course a pole would agree.
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>>53780650
So why not limit it to real human beans? Or do you often care about whether a TV is fuckable?
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>>53780546
Exactly
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>>53780780

TV is male
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>>53780650
And if you ask about a table and the table is female what does this tell you? Do you have desires for tables?

>>53780778
We have genders in our language, but we use it when it makes sense. Such as when we are talking about people or animals. You use them for stupid things, what is the point in them?
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>>53780546
So you're saying Slovenes are geniuses?
...Sure.
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>>53780843

anglo with his barbarian germanic language will never understand
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>>53780921
Germanic languages have genders, as far as I am aware English is the only one which does not.
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I have no idea, but it makes learning most languages a pain.

">Ou est le fourchette--"
>"Haha, Anon your French is so bad! Obviously a fork is a woman, not a man! You can tell from looking at it."

What the fuck.
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In danish, male and female genders collapsed into a "common gender". There is still neuter.
Actually it's pretty nice because then there is no confusion about whether you are talking about some object being female gender, or a living female person for instance.
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>>53780968
cause you are the most barbarian
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>>53780546
amen to that

also what gender has a tree in your language?
in russian a tree in general is a middle gender. But all ... sorts?... of trees have gender. For example a oak is a male but the birch is a female
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>>53781027
mah english is so bad. Sorry for that. I didn't recheck the message before sending it
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>>53780843
Look you could take a enlightened language as example but you had to pick a barbaric one
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>>53781027

tree is neutral
oak male
birch is female

Actually in Slavic languages it's easier cause genders are usually determined by endings of words
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>>53781027
middle too
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>>53780854
Are you implying they aren't? I thought Slovenians being the most powerful race was a well documented fact.
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>>53780417
>mfw i know the source material
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>>53781138
spanish has that too, let's be friends
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>>53780417
Because Proto-Indo-European had them, and majority of the most relevant languages are its descendants.
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>>53780417
Why do languages have articles?

Language does not operate under the dictates of "logic."

>t. linguist
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>>53781194
What are you on about?
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>>53781455
Articles specify things about the word though.
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ITT: masterBAITERS
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>>53780417
>Why do many languages have genders?
I know right, it's incredibly obnoxious. Hungarian - but I'd wager all Finno-Ugrics don't have any grammatical genders or gendered pronouns.

I personally even find the English way of gendering people annoying. Who the fuck cares if it's a he or a she or an it. Just say they and be done with it.
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>>53780546
That's why English is easy af.
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>>53780546
this, consider gooks, they're average is higher than ours as theirs is more complex than our languages
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Why do so many languages have future tense when we're all going to die soon anyway?
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>>53781560
what do you mean ?
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>>53781626
Chinese is a really easy language to learn though. It is very logical. The only complicated bit is remembering the characters.
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>>53781506
actually gender specific endings serve the exact same function
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>>53781714
aren't the tones fucking annoying ?
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>>53780417
>What is the point in them?
historical-cultural heritage, mostly
from the time our ancesters were animistic and believed everything had human traits
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It sounds normal for a flower (unE fleur) to be of the feminine gender seeing how delicate, pretty and fragile it should be.

I reckon saying unE table and not un table may be unnecessary but using gender for objects or ideas helps conveying.
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>>53781741
Not really.
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>>53780843
>And if you ask about a table and the table is female what does this tell you? Do you have desires for tables?
Useful for referring to an object if you've talked about more than one. In the sentence "A caneta e o lápis, que estava quebrado", it becomes clear to the reader that the broken item is the pencil(lápis,m) and not the pen(caneta,f) because quebrado refers to male only. Tbh it's also tradition, I don't want to fugg pens because of their gender
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>>53780978
but they're right desu, a fork is a woman. Just look at it.

>FORCHETTA
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>>53780417
>>53781274

sauce pls my good anglo friends
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>>53781714
Haven't been exposed to any of the east asian languages, thus I wouldn't know specifically, just presumed that due to the abundance of characters...
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>>53781027
tree is male
oak and birch are female
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>>53781626
the way japanese write is ridiculous. it looks good but there are like 3 alphabets and each word have it own drawing, and you have to remember it.

see
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJNxPRBvRQg
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>>53781481
A bit of memeing the, I admit. Still, aren't you guys fairly intelligent? Slovenia seems to be a pretty good cunt
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>>53780650
Or you could say serkkutyttö/-poika
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>>53781871
I did 2 years of it in University and then went to China for a year as part of my course. It is overrated in how hard it is as a language. European languages are more confusing than Chinese is.
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>>53781027
here tree is female. oak is male and birch is female too.
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Reminder that not having genders in a language means femininsts won and reached their goal of equality.
This means that English is a feminist'd language.
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>>53781274
>mfw we're degenerates for liking cute girls doing cute things
:(
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>>53782026
PUSSYWHIPPED!
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>>53781506
Which can be achieved any other way. Languages carry redundancy with them. As far as genders are concerned, all IE languages were gendered — OE possessing all three from PIE. It is only languages from severely cucked nations that dropped genders. In your case, being cucked by the Normans and Danes.
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>>53782026
leave it to the Americans to develop a language 1000 years ahead of the bell curve
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>>53782012
What's the Portuguese word for birch? As a second gen Portuguese I literally never had to use it and so probably forgot it the second after my father told me.
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>>53781027

Simple rule, if ends in A, it's female, O is male, any other word is male too.
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>>53781027
tree male
oak birch female
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>>53782108
i never heard it, i had to google it. it's bétula. oak is carvalho, you hear it a lot because it's a surname too.
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>>53780417
It's not a matter of logic of functionality.
Gendered nouns are there because pre-christian animistic religions. People back then thought every object had a soul and shit. Not sure how they defined their gender, but since in Italian you'll most likely nail it by checking the last letter, so they did.
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>>53780417
Not sure about other languages, but as Germans we have inherited it from our ancestors: the Romans
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>>53780417
Actually, I've always wondered about the link between gendered languages and the societies that speak them. Arabic is gendered, but, interestingly, Farsi is not.
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>>53782365
WE
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>>53782267
Half of my family bears the name Carvalho kek

Bétula sounds nice though, I wonder why there aren't any people with this name, especially considering all the Pereiras and Oliveiras out there
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>>53782453
also
>The generic name betula is from Latin, which is a diminutive borrowed from Gaulish betua (cf. Old Irish bethe, Welsh bedw).
CELTIC PRIDE WORLDWIDE
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>>53782515
WE
WERE
CELTS
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>>53780417
>tfw speaking a language which doesn't have those
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>>53780417
It's useful.
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>>53781027
Tree itself is male, but almost all the single species female
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>>53781138
>Actually in Slavic languages it's easier cause genders are usually determined by endings of words
o rly?
>mężczyzna/kobieta
>krew/rękaw
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>>53781506
The indefinite article carries no meaning except for specifying between adjectives and nouns (which is done by context anyway) though.
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