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america btfo
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>>53759527
>Americans saying "splendid"
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>>53759527
That wasn't immigration, it was conquest.

Not saying that's a good thing either, but it's not really comparable.
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>>53759551

All the more reason we need to build a wall to keep this happening from us.
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>>53759551
>australians stealing canadian jokes
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White people made America prosperous.
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>>53759527
Might made right back then.

They lost, just like Western Euros are now.

Be it right or wrong, it's happening.
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>>53759527
>immigration
Funny way to spell conquest, shitskin
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>>53759552
>live alongside them for years
>trade resources and given maps of the land
>shown them flora and fauna of this new continent
>poisoned and smallpox
>conquest
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Shame about the whole "not creating your own formal state and written language thing" in order to qualify that

Leave the geopolitics to the big kids
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>>53759618
That's a gross simplification.

Technology, culture, and government designs from Western Europe made America prosperous.

Of which much of this "information" came from Romans, Arabs, Chinese, and Indians.

Which came from Sumerians, Egyptians, and eventually the original homo sapien Africans.
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>>53759665

So what you're saying is white people made America prosperous. Good job saying what I said.
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>>53759665
all of which were white idiot
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>>53759639
>lose hundreds of wars
>be retarded and get tricked out of land
>get forcefully moved to shitty regions
>die in droves because you are backwards and can't farm

Indians died because they couldn't stay alive. Call it right or wrong but it happened. Get the fuck over it.
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>>53759665
Because some nigger invented a pointy stick 50k years ago does not mean niggers invented a computer.
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It was never the native's country, much in the same way as a dog can't own a house. It was unoccupied territory full of savages, similar to reservations today.
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>>53759552
>>53759637
This.
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>>53759578
>Canadians whinging about Australians stealing
Crikey mate, we may have once been convicts but not anymore, you're sounding like the bloody Abo's and Kiwis.
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>>53759527
but thats an arguement against immigration
whites immigrated and the indians got btfo
now if you open the borders completely the same can theoretically happen
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>>53759527
>implying a dumb fucking red paki would think of that kind of logic
>implying our current living generations did anything wrong
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>>53759729
Exactly, they want you to be slaughtered.
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>>53759527
>tfw you can pull "muh race" cards against the gringos
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>>53759681
It would be just as right as saying the Yongle Emperor made America prosperous.

>>53759689
>Chinese
>white

>>53759663
Iriqois federation.
They had a written language.

There are much better arguments than
>hurdur they weren't legally there guys!
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>>53759787
The chinese ARE white you goober
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>>53759578
What are you talking about, you flaccid penis? Christ Canadians will go to any length to claim relevancy
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>Implying conquest = immigration
>Implying I had anything to do with the colonization of America
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>>53759698
Just as Western Euros having technology and democratic ideals circa 1750 does not mean "White people made America prosperous".
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>>53759527
All this shit about borders and shit is dumb really, the world is ours and we should be free to go anywhere we want i dont support immigration and shit but the borders things is a non sense.
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>>53759831
>parents kill millions of people and get extremely wealthy and powerful by exploiting them
>"hey but I wasn't them so I get to keep all the money and power!"
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>>53759851
>t. Juan Manuel Juarez Alcon
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>>53759851
>mexican
>doesn't support borders
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>>53759787

What's so hard about admitting that white people of European ancestry made this country what it is today, not natives, not chinks, not gooks?
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>>53759876
>Parents
Fuck you, faggot. You're not guilting me over something I had no control over.
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>>53759851
>Juan says after being caught and deported
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>>53759527
We conquered them and brought civilization to the land.

White self-hating liberals piss me off.
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>>53759890
>>53759916
>>53759925
Im not planing to go anywhere im just saying what i think , i like my country believe it or not.
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>>53759919
Because it's attributing the success to race.
If not, then I agree. Western Europeans made America prosperous.
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>>53759527
immigration implies that they moved to an existing country

they didn't; they made the fucking country
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>>53759964

No, it isn't. I'm just stating facts. If American Indians had made this country prosper then I would be saying that.
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>>53759876
Sounds like someone wasn't on the winning team. Don't try to blame others for their ancestors negligence without taking responsibility for your own.
The strong ate the weak and there's no use crying about it now.
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>>53759923
Injustice doesn't just vanish when the perpetrator dies. It doesn't just vanish when the immediate victims die.
It continues on and on until it is corrected.

>>53759953
And now that your shithole is being flooded by Mapuches and Honduran gangbangers, are you still for open borders?

Do you really think Europe could handle a billion Africans?

People aren't just numbers that you can put together to make everything equal out.
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>>53759527
So this picture basically says that if we allow mass immigration, we'll end up like indians?
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>>53759992
So is Jewish immigration into the Palestinian territory okay because Palestine isn't a country in Israel's eyes?
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>>53760028
So forget the injustice? It just vanishes because the world was shittier back then?

Okay then when the third world cucks Europeans out of existence, we will forget. Europeans and the injustice will vanish just like millions of my ancestors lives.
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>>53760125

injustice isn't exclusive to Europeans

for starters, Europeans were the first people on the fucking planet to actually grow a moral compass and realize slavery was bad, outlawing it

fuck, parts of Africa still practice slavery, TODAY

You don't even know about the severity of "injustice" non-Europeans commit against one another, you're just taught to feel pity for yourself by our libby boo boo government
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>>53760036
Where are all the millions of people going to go, then? What about the tribes that were eradicated entirely? My fault for that, too, huh?
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THIS IS A /POL/ MEME
GO BACK TO >>>/pol/
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>>53759729
this
I'm not defending what America did to the natives, but it fucks my mind when Liberals try to use what happened to the natives as an argument FOR immigration.
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>>53761063
>hurr durr it fucked my mind

Fuck off, every time you stormtards are confronted with legitamate arguments you choose to dismiss them with memes instead of actually addressing them.
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>immigration and colonialism are the same thing
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>>53759527

If anything, this is a cautionary tale. We should be building the wall faster. Especially on the Canadian border. Alaska included. How many Native's died? 100 million? fuck. That could be us.
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>Talking to white people about how they committed genocide against the natives/Mexicans and stole their land
>"HAHAHAHAHA MAYBE THE NATIVES/MEXICANS SHOULD HAVE DONE A BETTER JOB OF HOLDING THEIR LAND, DEAL WITH IT!!!!!"

>One brown person moves to the US in the hopes of seeking a better life
>"THOSE FUCKING SHITSKINS ARE TAKING OUR COUNTRY FROM US!!!! I CAN'T WAIT FOR TRUMP TO WIN SO HE'LL DEPORT ALL OF THEM!!!!!"
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>>53759527

Whites were not immigrants to America. We were colonists to an unclaimed land. Indians existed as different tribes, and frequently fought each other in tribal rivalries. There was not a previously existing government in America. If when the white man landed on shore and the Indian came up to him and said, "Hello newcomer, welcome to my country. Come, see what my civilization has to offer! I hope our nations can both peacefully exist with one another. Let us develop trade and commerce between our two peoples" it might be different. Instead, what he said was, "Holy shit, it's a walking snowman. Should I shoot him with my arrow?" Indians, Aborigines, etc. are like the barbarian units in Civ. America was founded by whites and it was built by whites. The white man won its independence, and brought it to the Industrial Revolution. The only thing minorities had to do with the building of America was their use as slaves and indentured servants to pick cotton, lay down railroads, and blow holes in mountains via placing dynamite and nearly dying the process (lol).

The only thing niggers have ever done are:

1. Jazz, rap (shitty nigger music)
2. Peanut butter
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>>53761839

Also, I live in the South. There's an Indian reservation not to far from where I live.

All they do is either complain about the white man, get drunk, or get busted with pot. They also get a fuck ton of money from casinos and shit which only serves to perpetuate their whining and nigger behavior.

They use some of that money, humorously enough, to shoot off a shit load of fireworks on the fourth of July. Celebrating the independence of those that conquered you - truly cucked.
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>>53761839
No, the indians were like the shoshone, the Iroquois, the Mayans, the Inca, and the Aztecs from Civ 5, you dumb fuck. They did have nations, and governed them with laws. They had vast empires, and were literate. Hell, they had better farming techniques than what was practiced in Europe at the time. Have you ever opened a book? Or do you just go off of memes?
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>>53759527

> He thinks we give a fuck.
> He thinks he didn't do the same.
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>>53762481
Mayans, Incans and Aztecs were already dissolved empires by the time America was colonized you fucking idiot. I guess I forgot they were centered in Pennsylvania and not Mesoamerica.

Did the Shoshone and Iroquois establish governments that expanded the entire length of the continental United States? I get what you're saying that some were literate and had farming techniques, but the point still remains.
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White people were always here, havent you read the Book of Mormon?
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>>53761514
There is no actual ideological disprepancy there.
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>>53760059
>because Palestine isn't a country in Israel's eyes

well it's not a country in a lot of country's eyes

so yes

p.s. fuck muzzies
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>>53759665
WE
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>>53759527
>Canadians being cucks
What else is fucking new
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>still falling for this...

come on...
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>>53763844
t. abdul mohammad
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>>53761248
What the fuck is there to address? How is saying "but Americans are immigrants" a valid reason for why immigration is good rather than a reason for why it is bad?
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>>53760125
>Muh injustice
>Muh ancestors.
The world works by people fucking people over, you dumbshit. You're incredibly fucking naive for thinking justice, or lack thereof, is exclusive to one group of people or another.
>>53762481
Most of the great Native American civilizations were either on the decline or gone by the time most colonization happened. Yes, they had long spanning trade routes. Yes, they had systems of laws and governance. All of which amounted to naught when confronted with a stronger power and disease. And while their system might've resulted in a happier populace, it didn't give them the technological advancement of their European counterparts. They got the shit end of the stick in history, like so many other civilizations before. It's what happens.
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>>53762742
>>53764239
The last Inca ruler, Tupac Amaru (the inca, not the rapper) died almost 100 years after colonization began. The Aztec empire fell in 1521. Quite a bit after the euros came. The Iroquois Confederacy had their own oral constitution, which the US ripped off of when creating their own constitution. Again, have you actually studied this, or going off of memes and things you heard from people?
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>>53764877
Are you forgetting where I specifically mentioned the falling of these civilizations before colonization? I'm aware of the empires the Mississippians and Anasazi built, of the Mayans and Incans to the south. What I'm saying is that their power was irrelevant at the time of colonization due to them no longer existing. First contact with the Euros killed enough Native Americans through disease that any large power structures crumbled and basically assured their downfall. They got the shit end of the history stick, and unfortunately that's how the world works. No amount of rectifying "injustices", real or otherwise, will bring back the dead or increase the population of Native Americans in this country to the point where they will be a large force like they once were. Personally I wouldn't mind granting them greater autonomy and some form of economic aid, but trying to rectify the current situation is a nightmare. Many reservations are run by corrupt administration, alcoholism and poverty is beyond rampant, and the job market may as well be nonexistant. It may be hard for you to face facts, but the Native Americans were another sad casualty of history, and they probably won't be the last.
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>>53759527
Legitamate question

Why is it whenever the topic of natives is brought up, it's always with the stupid
>youragainstimmigration.jpg
Meme
And the main thing; is it a native or a white liberal whenever someone posts these?
Cause i hate it when libs use us as an excuse for there own use
Like what
>>53761063
Said
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