How shitty modern art is viewed in your country? Here in Germany

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>>53735997

>>53735997
Berlin is a thriving hub of moder art

You should be proud. I know I'd be

>>53735997
That bullshit gets over sometimes over here. I like some of Pollock's work but some modern art is just pure nonsense.

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>>53736238
I respect modern art like 20s art (impressionism, cubism and etc). But today you expose your shit and people want to fotograph it...

Berlin 30s s2

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Purely for hipster faggots. I honestly want to kill every faggot who "makes" modern art here, since it's a disgrace to our history of true painters and artists

>>53735997
I think it ranges from contempt to admiration. I kinda like it, desu.

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Here's one from Tate Modern

>>53737729
How many mono-coloured ''''''''''''''''''paintings'''''''''''''''' are there?

>>53737729
Modern art is money laundering par excellence.
Zero effort and value is transformed into much value and nobody can do shit against it.

>>53737913
All you have to do is just come up with some bullshit abstract meaning and it's considered a masterpiece worthy of DaVinci's admiration

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>>53735997
Minimalist painting exist since a long time and it's kinda interesting as a concept
But why does artists make the same shit after 100 years ? that's the real question
Pic related malevitch 1918

>>53737789
Quite a number. At the time I went, there's even one that is just a fucking mirror. Wtf!

>>53738156
>just a fucking mirror
I believe you without a doubt.

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>>53738214
Blessed are those who had not seen but yet believe

>>53737913
This.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/columnist/wolff/2013/11/17/is-art-a-criminal-enterprise/3575107/

idk it depends

I really like some artists even in
contemporary art

>>53736238
Berlin is fucking shit and should be nuked as fast as possible.

I guess some people like it, but most people think it is bullshit and a waste of money. Contemporary art itself was deliberately cultivated to deconstruct the idea of art and render the term "art" meaningless. So you shouldn't be surprised that most people hate it.

>>53735997
Postmodern approaches to virtually anything is trash. It seeks to overturn functional, working definitions of things like "art" and "history" for the purpose of giving talentless hacks a seat at the table.

>>53737062
its faggots like you that have made modern art so potent. Indifference would be a much more appropriate reaction but no, you see it as an attack and a crime making its rhetoric valid.

>>53738586
l l-love you t-too

>>53738586
Hi anon, Iike you, wanna hang out sometimes?
Y-you are pretty cute.

Haven't seen any in my town or area. There's a cute little gallery that has some nice scenic paintings but that's about it. I'm sure there's plenty of those pretentious fucks in Cork and Dublin though.

>>53738586
Don't be so tsundere, bby

I know you like me

>>53738603
Some of it actually is good, but much of it is trash.
>>53738586
Its OK anon, I know how you feel. We can third reich together.

>>53736396
>berlin actully looking not-shit
amazing

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Does hyperrealism count as modern art? I can respect hyperrealism.

Of course we have crappy abstract art like everywhere else, but I believe "modern art" is too broad a concept to give an opinion.

>>53735997

It's very, very niche here. I personally at least haven't noticed any mainstream appeal.

I go to plenty of exhibits and most of them are quite interesting. Perhaps the gallery in my town is just more selective of what crap they allow to put on their walls.

>>53735997
it's only accepted in berlin because of all the artfags there.
it's pretty much made fun of all on/in (?) the countryside

>>53738586
We can nuke Berlin together sweetie, after we burn down Tate Modern and all its cancer.

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I like this kind of art, what's it called?

>>53739305

weebshit

also think it is just "digital art".

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>>53739363
It doesn't even have to be anime styled

>>53739520
>Shadowrun
Mein Neger

>>53738586
Anything planned for Wednesday evening?

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>>53739305

Perhaps you'd be into maximalism.

>>53740131
>maximalism
Yes, that's it!

>>53740131
this looks so weird, the way its only facing one way in a sense

>>53735997
>artists
literally "HEY EVERYONE PAY SOME FUCKING ATTENTION TO ME", the profession

>>53735997
>Here in Germany idiot modern art is very accepted because of politically correctness.

Video very related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzGzMYS2Gnc

>>53740876
HGich.T is superior to those paintings. They put at least ''''''''some'''''''' work into their presentation.

>>53741288
They are mocking what you described in the OP.
It's also applicable here.
I see literal garbage exposed at the Louvre.

>>53741288
this. it's at least entertaining. I wouldn't call it art, but it's something.

>>53741443
>They are mocking what you described in the OP.
I'm not the OP, but I have to agree with you.

>>53735997
i once went on a school tour in a museum in dublin and there was this """""""""painting""""""""" that was just brown and black squares
everyone in the class argued about it with the tour guide that it was a load of shite

>>53740876
fucking orcs

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>not appreciating fine art

>>53738515
>>53737913

Oh gosh, i ve never thought this! Makes total sense

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>>53747632
you should visit us on /pol/ Kamerade :3

>>53738571

Modern buildings have a short life-span, they are not like the pré 40s buildings that are made to last for decades. Then, I hope the Germans will redeem the true german style.

itt: people clueless about art history who can't make a difference between modern art and contemporary art

>>53750867
enlighten us, frenchfu

>>53737729
Deep.

>>53754816
I can go deeper. ;)

>>53739066
I appreciate hyper realism for the sheer technique, and skill, but its also sort of pointless because cameras exist.

people unironically believe the whole point of modern art is to wash drug money and for various shady politicians to fund various shady organizations to do various shady things

all of a sudden you have a ton of legal money in your pocket, boom

>>53755155
>people unironically believe the whole point of modern art is to wash drug money and for various shady politicians to fund various shady organizations to do various shady things
Are you implying this is not the case?

We have a pretty large underground scene contemporary art scene here in Riga. I'm an artist myself. AMA

>>53755206
This is my first post today, be tolerant pls

>>53737913
Yeah but how do you explain "experimental" films.

Literally no budget piece of shits that pretend to be "deep".

Atleast with Hollywood you know you're getting sucked out of your cash on purpose.

>>53755206
>>53755256
How often do you have homosexual sex with your peers and do you use goat's blood as lube?

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Dunno if these classify as modern art, but I like them:

Modern art in the US is the same shit as everywhere else: edginess masquerading as genius.
When I was in Moscow, there was, quite literally, a black square canvas (with some subtle, slightly raised nondescript black shapes on it) labeled "Black on Black"

>>53755192
well I am a chemist (student), and they told me over there in schools I cant actually imply anything without the bird of proofs, the bird being an experiment or a phenomena or a piece of hard evidence 100% recreate-able 100% of the time in 100% the same conditions

I really wish I was some sort of a detective going around investigating stuff. Imagine the life, the excitement, the intrigue, the scandal... oh well.

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>>53755305
A lot of people have no idea that art in the 1920s counts as modern art, that looks influenced by John Bauer.

What they think is modern art, is actually post-modern art.

>>53755284
>German "humour"

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>>53755305
You may like Harry Clarke.

>>53755256
Da.
>>53754945
Your contry went even deeper ;^)

>>53755206
>I'm an artist
Why? Do you think economies work on hobbies? Do you think your life decisions make sense? Do you even think art exists??? Everyone is a fucking artist. I can smear shit over a paper, and this would be art. So why are you special, and literally 7 billion of other people out there arent????

Doctor cant smear bandages all over a patient and call himself a doctor. Engineer cant smear a bunch of silicium and copper over something and call himself an engineer. A chemist cant smear a bunch of chemicals all over the table and call himself a chemist.

This is why these things are legitimate life choices, legitimate things to be. Dont be a fucking artist. Dont be a fucking shit smearer. Dont be a useless, unemployable cunt. Why would anyone think this is a good thing to do in life? Why would anyone think his personal hobbies matter?

I avoid "artists" like plague.

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>>53755526

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>>53739066
>>53755033
Hyperrealism is fucking boring.

It's the art equivalent of musicians like dream theatre or buckhead which are complete technical wankrey. Sure they're fantastic at painting, but my god it's so uninspiring and boring.

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>>53755547
The problem people have with artists is the money they get.
Art really shouldn't have a price to it, to be honest. If it's emotionally invoking, then you should be able to appreciate it. I feel nothing when I see a lot of famous paintings that took lots of skill, but I feel something when it comes to simple stuff like Derek Setzer's work.

If art pieces had no actual price on them, people wouldn't care.

>>53735997
I really like some modern art, but a lot of it is garbage.

What bothers me is when there was obviously no effort put into the creation and presentation of a piece, modern or not.

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>>53755500
Lovely!

>>53755731
I just dislike them because they think they are so special and valuable.... while in reality, in my reality at least, they arent. Artists get in my face and are all like 'eyo listen, you need my art more than you need air so you better respect me like I am a divine being' or something, that's the vibe I got from 'the artists' I met so far, so now I just avoid these people.

People I actually fucking need and people I would actually want to have around are doctors, engineers, scientists, and even farmers. I actually want their work. And these guys never even brag or are so self centered. They are pretty down to earth, dont bother if you arent into their work, and their work is basically what keeps you alive.

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>>53755768
Effort=/=good stuff
I really don't know much about art to be honest. I just see something pretty, and I like it. That's as far as I go.

But I'm more familiar with music. There are incredibly complex songs out there that are just fucking tedious to listen to, while something as Phillip Glass, Tides, or Low is so much better than the works of the technically talented Thomas Ades, Rosetta, or the American Misic Club.

>>53755609
Edgy

You kids haven't seen the retardation that is modern art until you've spent six hours in the Indianapolis Museum of Art.

Great museum in every other sense, but holy shit is their modern art section the kinda shit that makes you consider suicide.

One of the pieces of "art" is, and I'm 100% serious, a string tied to a hook on the wall and tied to a hook on the floor.
That's is.
Just a standard 45° angle triangle.
It's not even nice string. It's the shit you buy at craft stores.

Tons of other nonsense as well.

If you're ever in Indy and you want a trippy experience I highly recommend it.

>Modern art
>Not a Jewish money laundering scheme

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>>53755988
How's it edgy?

At the end of the day, two pieces of art of just something emotionally or visually interesting. If the better looking one took 12 hours while the other took 12 weeks, I don't care. Hyperrealism almost always falls under the "Wow that's pretty cool and talented, but I don't really care for it" type of art.

>>53755970
That's true, it's all subjective. But with modern art, which typically is more minimalist, you have to be very precise with what you're using or it turns out looking like shit.

Sometimes people put too much work into something and it ends up being garbage too, for sure.

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>>53756088
I guess so. It's definietly true for minimalism. There are some fantastic art, music and films out there with an emphasis on minimalism, but it got really trendy in the mid or late 00s, and now 90% of what's produced looks like uninspired shit

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dont know much about art other than found in my videogames
I tend to like it if it contains A LOT of details, like if everything is really detailed and if it is trying to portray some glorious or sad or happy or some sort of scene like that, where motifs and emotions and things are really obvious and clear

I tend to stay away from the pretentious useless bullshit that 99% of art is, I just get nothing from it
>muh 3 squares or some shit like that
yeah, nah..

>>53755609
Dream Theater isn't boring.

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>>53756139
I can't even get through their entire albums without wanting to switch to something else.

>>53738586
shut up and suck my bbc

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>>53756124
Modern muh 3 squares is pretty dumb, true, but old stuff with Malevich and Kandinsky was important because we literally didn't know stuff regarding colour theory. So a bunch of simple art pieces were produced out of experiment to see how certain combinations evoke different emotions or perspectives.

Much like how minor music notes are deemed "sad", it took some practice to see what combinations make a piece particularly "sad".

>>53756301

>we literally didn't know stuff regarding colour theory

Maybe it wasn't codified but any artist with even middling skills knows it intrinsically

>>53756589

>>53745986
Well at least this one has more to see than a fucking black square. This one has texture, and those craks actually have some kind of a shape.
I still dont like it but its something.

>>53755778
this is some teen shit.

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>>53756322
what a perfect example of bullshit I dont like
pic related is much better 2bh imo lads senpai

>>53757127
>it's a bunch of dudes in history
wow fucking emotional

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>>53757215
>his picture is a bunch of nothing

>>53757377
This is is great, I actually feel some emotion out of it.

The previous feels like it's a part of a textbook example of some gun trade, and I skim through it.

>ignorant cucks talking about shit they dont know about
>art must be beautiful!
>the only good art is the one i like!

Fucking hell, retards.

>>53757377
i feel like this is an ad for a tabletop RPG

>>53757215
Lol dead white guys amirite?

>>53757127
>>53757377
These kind of paintings make me think of history books, they look weird. Not bad but kinda weird

>>53757520
Almost all my posts involves dead white guys, and
>>53756000
>>53756068
are clearly dead white guys

that painting's just boring dude

>>53757550
Exactly buddy. History textbooks.
Nothing intriguing, but you can appreciate the effort.

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>>53757518
tabletop rpg's is where it's at, have a full folder of those
these are historical tho

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>modern
>art

>>53739305
comix art, sketch

>>53755601
i like this one the best so far :3

>>53757482
this desu

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>>53736093
>art is literally carving a stick into a smaller stick with scales
>literally we are talking whittling a stick into a pointed stick simple
>couldnt even finish despite how simple of a concept this is
>I mean literally how does this take more than one day's work
>complain about being put next to a significantly more complex sculpture

Modern art is garbage, but the guy who made that post is way more of the fucking problem than whoever made the skeet in face statue.

YOU LITERALLY COULDNT MAKE A STICK INTO A SMALLER STICK BECAUSE YOU WERE TOO BUSY CULTIVATING THE IMAGE OF A SHITTY FUCKING ARTIST

HOLY HELL IT MAKES ME SO MAD. PEOPLE USED TO TRAIN THEIR ENTIRE LIVES TO PAINT ACCURATE PAINTINGS OF PEOPLE AND NOW ITS REDUCED TO THIS GARBAGE ART IS SUCH A WASTE OF TIME DAMN IT ALL SHIT FUCK ASS

>>53738586
Oh! I didn't know you felt that way about me... I think I like you too...

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H.C. Westermann's work was just shown in NYC. Went twice. Got to see this one in person.

>>53738691
>>53738709
>>53739972
>>53761722

Ok what are these responses a reference to?

>>53761809
It doesn't even look good. Aside from the fact that it's clearly some conceptual fuckery it simply does not look good.

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>>53735997
we like it,but not post-modern shit like your pic
Brancusi pretty much invented modern sculpture