各位, welcome to this weekend's comfy chingchong thread:
香港 Hong Kong
新加坡 Singaporean Chinese
馬來西亞 Malaysian Chinese
海外華僑 Other overseas chinese
Nei hou my dimsum friend. How is Hong Kong treating you?
>16 year olds are famous pop tarts
>I'm a 22 year old NEET
This will never be East Asia
>no qt Tibetan or Manchu girls
>No T-Pop or M-Pop or fat Mongolian PSY's
Are there any great 80s Japanese bands? I would like to learn more about Japanese music. Also do you remember Beyond? I still love them very much.
i know only about underground music in the 80s, like jun togawa or merzbow. but happy end(はっぴいえんど) is for you, i think. they were older one in the 70s but one of the pioneers of japanese band/folk style music. many people, including some hardcore gaijins, still appreciate them.
nah. don't jump to conclusions. thats the words sounds in themselves. not about any other things or anything chinese. poppu sounds actually really pop to japanese ears, and you randomly made it up. thats what i laughed at.
My city (SF) has tons of Chinese people and culture, so there are lots of Chinese immersion programs.
Do they speak any Mandarin in Hong Kong or is it only Canto and English? Thanks btw.
he and his party did what we expect him to do... well, in the beginning that is... until he decided to go apeshit on us from trivial things like censoring our press to unforgivable actions like taking away my family's rightful clay in turn for nothing
why does these these countries citizens must literally work so hard just to have a decent living? Are we asians really that batshit crazy. Suicide rates are soaring in these places from work related. What are we competing against? Thinking about having to go to work tomorrow for another 14 hours is just mood dampening, maybe i'm myself to blame for not studying hard enough during schooldays. Sometimes i really have to envy those refugees, at least all they need to worry about is getting into Europe
pic related, i'm 27 this year, 6 years chucking cargo
2016 election thoughts
I think the election is a good thing. I learned a little more than usual. Before I just saw it as business as usual, as a wasteful rubber stamping process. Before I sense various problems on my behalf but now I have a job, no matter how unskilled it is, so I now have some energy to do a little more.
in the big picture I see the rise of small parties, new candidates, new issues, and a pause of old faction system.
When I was younger I thought many DPP ideals were inspiring. The Taiwanese nationalism interested me the most but as I learn more I see more issues.
In this election I try to learn a little bit about my neighborhood. I see how the staff worked to serve the voting process, and how literally everyone are all not local people. We all only move into this neighborhood this a few years for work or for land development. It's a shame that I live there but knows so little about our residents and issues.
Another more general thing I have always felt about the elections is how dirty and emotional it can get. Rumors, slandering , vote buying, crowd gathering, TV talk shows etc.
from the few DPP campaign promotions, I think they manipulate their image to milk that sunflower movement cow. And this is the second election that is doing this.
In general i feel what I always felt. inspiring in some ways but full of serious problems. I don't think the economy can be improved. I think the pension of the civil servants will be slashed. Our fundamental contradiction, such as
low birthdate vs shortage of childcare manpower,
aging population vs shortage of elder care and pension money,
needs for immigrant manpower and fear of immigrants having civil rights.
These are contradiction discussed in my society and worry me the most. None of these can be solved by this or next election.
But I feel more positive this time. My job can't support me but at least I stepped out of NEET life. So I am willing to learn more and share more.
And on the national flag, I think if it's necessary and acceptable for we Taiwanese to pledge loyalty to ROC flag in order to work in ROC, then it is probably also a must and a ok to pledge loyalty to PRC flag in order to work in PRC like everybody else around. It can be a less painful and hateful and warlike experience.
I know there are other issues, such as its the JYP agency ordered Miss Chou to wave the flag in the company video etc. but i don't know how talent industry work.
> Will there ever be an East Asia Union like the EU?
I think Far East Union is possible.
> Would that be a good idea?
I guess so.
Why do Asians eat hamburgers for breakfast? Taiwanese at least.
Yeah we do. It has to do with the service industry I guess. Franchise store such as MEI & MEI introduced burger flipping tech to many main road intersections and serve burgers to bike and bus commuters.
I guess that s why
Can someone help me translate these chinese words on the image?
>needs for immigrant manpower
isn't indonesia your source of immigrants. I remember encountering a alot of them there, and mostly in construction sector
I guess you took a train in between Taichung and Jhongli. Many Southeast Asians. The railroads have signs in Indonesian, Vietnamese, Thai and something else saying you should not walk over them.
I saw Thai too, but they were mostly just in Jhongli, or with their Taiwanese husbands.
The ploppers were easy to recognise since they really seem to like to wear national emblems on their clothes.
Then I get it it's simple. It's simplified calligraphy so I don't see it
It means "purple chi comes from East to here" which is a story recorded in history. LAOTZU the founder of Taoism didn't like China anymore and wanted to move west. On the west border checkpoint an official sees a purple chi from east on the sky so he knows the sage is coming from the east. So he prepared and talked to LAOTZU and wrote DAODEJING
That was insightful. Thank you. I would like China to be united one day but I suppose it is better for Taiwan to go independent for now. I hope democracy in Taiwan does not get corrupted like America.
The CCP was friendly with Japan during the Hatoyama period though. Speaking of the Chinese government, I think there will be a reform in China eventually. Sun Yat Sen planned for China to evolve into a military dictatorship, then an authoritarian government and finally a constitutional democracy. If a progressive president came into power there could be a change for the better in China without the bloodshed of a revolution.
Are you retarded? Don't you see the mass rapes happening everywhere the middle easterners go? Remember cologne? Rotherham? France? Literally everywhere they go they bring destruction and despair.
I see. I look forward to the day it happens. It is a silly dream but I would like to see us explore Mars together one day. Realistically China has much to gain from the high techology of both Japan and Korea, while Japan and Korea's stagnating economies could be boosted by the still growing Chinese economy.
>I would like to see us explore Mars together one day.
You think about things in very long time scale. But it's not a silly dream. Human beings would walk on mars someday. I hope we are together there as well.
Asia could be united under China's leadership. I think it's the most possible scenario(That's why I made the flag of East Asian Union like that).
my answer to it is very simple. at least china needs transparent popular elections to turn into being progressive and democratic, even if they are the least ones.
> without the bloodshed of a revolution.
i dont think normal chinese will do this or in my opinion they shouldnt do it in any way.
chinese people were really friendly with japanese until pre Jiang Zemin era. literally like from 80 to 90% of them have a liking for japan. but that retard destroyed it all and started the anti japan propaganda crap and populism we now know.
Honestly I prefer the ROC flag. The sun is very representative of the human race. I do not want a Chinese hegemony. Personally I believe there should be a meritocratic government that people from three countries could join after proving themselves as a city governor. Similar to what the CCP is doing but with more crackdown on corruption and a system to avoid yes-men like those under Xi's leadership.
Perhaps we can build a space station together after the ISS is put out of commission in 2020. 天宮 would be a great name. Does it exist in Japanese folklore?
I do not want to see a democratic China. Democracies are stable but they cannot carry out long term policies as different presidents often have vastly different views. It is one of the reasons why America still does not have a high speed railway, consistent funding for NASA projects, or gun laws that do something other than ban meaningless "high capacity magazines". Public opinion is also constricting as people always prefer immediate improvement in quality of life at expense of development, or blindly follow popular movements like Black Lives Matter. The media will become dangerously powerful in swaying election results should they decide to focus on certain candidates. Not everyone does proper research on presidential candidates before voting, and it is hard not to be affected by subjective news reports that lean towards particular parties. If anything, the voting base should be limited to those with near-perfect information on presidential candidates like the intelligent or well-informed, but I cannot think of any test that can reliably and objectively filter out these people. The closest substitute to this limited voting base is a single party system yet it is prone to corruption.
I did not know that. That is sad to hear. I do not think our governments have any intention to improve relations currently. Maybe it will improve in the future. Many of the younger generation grew up reading manga or watching anime and they don't participate in anti-Japan riots. I believe that we will become friends soon thanks to our young people.
Japan's elections aren't transparent either though. At least Chinese politics has actual competition and actual exchanges/discontinuitions of rulings. On the other hand what we see here is circus. Whoever win the election, the lawmakers are tin soldiers dancing or marching on bureaucrats' palms.
Is it really that bad? What you think of Japan militarizing? It is inappropriate but I found this picture very funny.
>goes to hk for a month
>was unaware that mainlanders are the rudest people on earth
>see people LITERALLY pissing on the streets and littering
>think everyone in hk is disgusting for about 2 weeks
I should probably read more about the people before I travel, sorry about mainlanders HK
It is okay we have accepted our fate. I have met several nice mainlanders but they are drowned out by the obnoxiousness of the rude ones. Their lack of manners is because of the poverty in the past few decades. One day they will regain their decency.
On a happier note what was your favourite part of Hong Kong? A month is rather long for a holiday.
I wouldn't say it was a holiday, my friend paid for me to go with him because he wanted someone to go with him to visit his girlfriend he met online (went great btw). My favorite part of Hong Kong would have to have been Wong Tai Sin Temple, and Hong Kong Disneyland. Those were the most memorable, I'd share pictures but my friend is the one who hasn't ripped them off of his camera yet. My favorite food to eat there had to be the Roasted Goose
Roast Goose is my favourite food too. I hope you ate at somewhere other than Tai Hing because it is mediocre there. The best roast goose restaurant is in Central. Did you try Chiu Chow cuisine and Dim Sum? To be honest I prefer Ocean Park over Disneyland haha. Where did you stay? It must have been expensive if you went to a hotel.
> Is it really that bad?
It costs money a lot to fight through an election, if you intend to win it. I'm not mentioning the deposit money that the election regulation office collects from you. You have to deal with a lot of leeches who ask you money. So, almost all of the major politicians are sons, daughters, grandsons or granddaughters of famous politicians today.
> What you think of Japan militarizing?
I'm negative about it. Japanese military shouldn't act outside Japan. But there's nothing I can do. I'd like to focus on my own survival. I'd like to be alive 10 years later.
I ate at Yung Kee, I hope that's a good place. I ate wonton too, but not chiu chow or dim sum; we have those in California though so I could probably just eat it here(not as authentic though.) I stayed at Tsim Sha Tsui in a studio. My friend is rich though so it was fine for him
That does not sound good. Politics in Hong Kong is also very messed up even though there is no money involved. Do you like Abe? I do not like him for personal reasons but Japanese people seem to like him for his Abenomics.
I was thinking of another place but yup that is one of the best. Expensive though. It is regrettable you did not have the chance to try chiu chow and dim sum. They are some of the food that HK does best. Did you visit Cheung Chau? Wonderful place. Nature, traditional shrines and snacks everywhere.
I'll probably be going back there with my friend in April, so I can try the chiu chow and dim sum. Any places you can recommend to me?
I did visit Cheung Chau, I also visited Lantau Island, Macao, and Shek Kwu Chau
I have read that some Japanese who visited Hong Kong were impressed by the demonstration done by young people there.
> Do you like Abe?
I don't like Abe for many reasons. It's easy to hate him and have grudge against him. But I think he is a mirror which reflects today's ordinary Japanese.
> but Japanese people seem to like him for his Abenomics.
I think Japanese suck at dealing with money, accounting, finance and so on. Abenomics is a complete failure. But a lot of ordinary people blindly believe it's successful. He wasted more than 10兆円 of national public pension fund within past half a year, just to raise the stock prices of Japanese companies. And those who worship Abe prize him for this... That leaves me speechless.
I would like a friend like yours haha. I am sorry but I don't have any recommendations. I usually eat at restaurants for their proximity to my home rather than the quality of their food so the restaurants I know are not the best. You can use openrice to discover good restaurants. It is heavily used by locals so it should be accurate. We are very picky about food lol.
However if you are interested in snacks I have several recommendations. The shops near the Wanchai exit A are quite good for savory snacks while any branch shop of 缽仔王 should include all the traditional sweet snacks. I hope you will enjoy your next visit even more.
Alright, will look at openrice to get good recommendations.
Why are some peoples english REALLY good, but others are bad? I came across this 12 year old who had perfect english, but i came across a 24yr old who isn't that good
Oh yes there are many demonstrations in Hong Kong because it is how we express our views to the government. The central government frequently tries to tighten control of HK so it makes many people angry. People are also dissatisfied with the declining quality of life.
Is that so? I think normal Japanese are much nicer people than Abe. I am glad that someone shares my dislike for Abe. I don't agree with his decision to abolish the minimum wage or depreciate the yen. It is making daily life hard for Japanese people even though it helps corporations. Even so I am taking advantage of the cheap yen to travel to Japan next June lol.
Yes it is the palace of the gods in traditional folklore. I have just discovered that China has a plan to send a space station into orbit this year that is named 天宮. My dream is shattered.
Hmm I think it is because some people study at english schools and some people study at chinese schools. Also people may simply prefer one language over the other. Although my english is not very good my chinese is shit compared to it because I have a bad memory and don't read Chinese literature.
I would portray Japanese to be peace-loving, warm-hearted pacifist people. War and Violence in post-WWII Japan has never cross my mind when conflict breakout somewhere else around the world while rest of its neighbors has its internal-security breached time after time, (DMZ, Xinjiang). The only thing that's concerning Japan is probably its disputed islands which even my country has this problem where mutual trade understanding is whats keeping tensions down and agreeing to arbitrate
Abe seems to be on the grey side of things, I really wonder does militarization of a long pacifist nation will do Japan any good in the long run or just tie down to the world's problems financially and bureaucratically
I wonder how popular kpop actually are in East Asia except South Korea
I see it's popular in the USA and Europe somehow but not so popular in Japan now(it used to be few years ago though). I've got a feeling that it's the same in China or Taiwan
>I wonder how popular kpop actually are in East Asia except South Korea I see it's popular in the USA and Europe somehow but not so popular in Japan now(it used to be few years ago though). I've got a feeling that it's the same in China or Taiwan
cause autism is the global issue.
No because it is difficult to register for an account and I prefer the anonymous freedom of 4chan. It can still very funny at times so I browse it occasionally. They have a special name for people like me, CD-ROM because it is read-only. Bad pun, but bad puns are the life and blood of Hong Kong. Nearly every translated movie title is a bad pun.
It is still popular in China and HK. Several friends of mine love K-pop and I have seen quite a few advertisements of singers especially this boy band called Big Bang. I don't know about Taiwan.
K-Pop and Korean Drama is rampant in Singapore, It spreads like a plague throughout our early-youth population. K-Pop is no longer just about its music, it has become a trend phenomena, a Novella. Its like you gotta listen to K-Pop in order to be 'hip' and 'in'. In Singapore its either K-Pop or that EDM hype.
Come to think of it, i really miss pre-2010 days where everybody has a unique taste in music where you've got metalheads in one corner, Jpop fizz in another and Technofags who frequent underground rave parties.
In short, voting is all about "freedom" and "human rights" of a country. if you dont want it with fear and on the other hand want to stay your policy and belief to feel secure, all i can say is "Do whatever youd like".
for what its worth, before arguing over something with you, no offence but you look like you read american conservative critiques/narratives too much and needlessly look into negative aspects of the democratic 1st world countries.
i also read shit like what sjws and /pol/ and TiA / KiA on reddit do but as total "comedy" with a laugh. i always keep a distant from every political/racial view, especially on the internet. id like to say that maybe you should give it a try in the same way as what i do. also, something worth reading isnt on the internet. its all on the books.
sorry for being arrogant but i might be a young person like your young people, so ｲ尓就高擡貴手
sorry but i dont get at all what you are talking about. you seem to just talk about some moralfag/sensitive stuff with your enigmatic metaphor, not about a political system or a social structure or a dictatorship/power structure of a country, or else not even about your political view.
if i had to say something here, id say that interest groups and mass media hyperbole in japan are certainly problematic. i agree it with you in that respect. but its completely another story.
Why is plastic surgery so popular in South Korea but not the other Asian countries?
To each their own. I don't like the current Chinese government but I believe with some major reforms it could be a very good system. It needs to be more meritocratic and less oppressive. Like you said the CCP causes fear and that is the reason why I disagree with it.
Looking into the negative aspects of each political system is crucial to decide which is better. I don't like American Liberals or Conservatives. Liberals are too misguided while conservatives are too stubborn and resistant to change. I used to be a big fan of democracy but after doing my own research I have grown disillusioned of it. It is true that I don't read enough books but I have read a few about American and Chinese politics. Not all of my opinions are formed based on the internet. I usually read them at bookshops so I don't finish the whole book. I should really buy them instead.
I don't think you are arrogant. I am a young person too and it is always good to learn about opposing views.
sooo thoughts on her?
except North korean, they all look beatiful.
imagine thrusting your BWC in all this mouths
i think south korean Girls are to plastic just like japense, you look at them and think, plastic.
North korean is the most beatiful women in asia.
> Oh yes there are many demonstrations in Hong Kong because it is how we express our views to the government.
That's great. I have also attended demos a few times last year.
I've been a bit depressed for a while. I have never advocated the depreciation of the yen either. But, anyway, have a nice trip! I'd like to look at the bright side.
> I really wonder does militarization of a long pacifist nation will do Japan any good in the long run or just tie down to the world's problems financially and bureaucratically
I think Japan's militarization just brings instability to world peace and Japan's national security and economy. More than a half of voting population is against the militarization too. But it couldn't be stopped.
Thank you. Do you have any recommended places to visit in 京阪神? I am thinking of four/five days in Osaka and two/three days in Kyoto. Is 不死王閣 any good or should I just pick a cheap hotel in Osaka for the convenience?
>Do you have any recommended places to visit in 京阪神?
Last year, I visited Okayama prefecture which is next to Hyogo prefecture. I enjoyed the trip. Okayama castle was nice to visit in summer night.
I visited Kyoto, Nara, Osaka and Hyogo a couple of times as school trips when I was kid. But it wasn't impressive, probably because it was a school trip that teachers decided where to visit and I had to move with other students(So, I can't tell you any recommendations from these 4 prefectures. There must be many good places to visit though).
> Is 不死王閣 any good or should I just pick a cheap hotel in Osaka for the convenience?
I checked the fees of this hotel. I am poor myself, so I wouldn't use this hotel. But if the fees are affordable for you, the stays would be comfy and enjoyable.
When I visited Okayama last year, I used cheaper hotels. Capsule hotel was the cheapest. But I couldn't take a rest good. I got rather tired for staying over night there.
So I stayed in another hotel which has separated rooms and beds. It was comfy enough and I could sleep well. There were a few tourists from other countries in this hotel.
The fees were 2000 to 3000 yen in both hotels.
Thank you for taking the time to write such a detailed response. It will be very helpful for planning the trip. My friends and I are not very rich either because we are students. I am just unfamiliar with the prices of hotels lol. Maybe we will stay at a cheap hotel first and save our money for a few days at a good 旅館 in Kyoto. Even though it is a bit gay I think we will sleep together on double beds because it is cheaper to book one room.
>Even though it is a bit gay I think we will sleep together on double beds because it is cheaper to book one room.
It's alright while you are young.
I'm glad to be helpful for you. I hope you'll enjoy the trip.
I'm off to bed now. Take care, my Hong Kong friend.
>It is one of the reasons why America still does not have a high speed railway
That's just because it itsn't economically viable.
>consistent funding for NASA projects
They largely get the funding they ask for, and they're still the most effective space agency.
>or gun laws that do something other than ban meaningless "high capacity magazines"
That's just in the constitution, and it has nothing to do with democracy.
You honestly overestimate how easily swayed people are, and how difficult it is to effectively set up a propaganda campaign that changes the zeitgeist. Sure, democracy has plenty of downsides, but it still is far better than the alternatives.
I have seen arguments that say the struggle between the federal government and state government was a major reason why railways do not exist. An example is the newly elected governor of Wisconsin who rejected the plan to upgrade the upgrade a high-speed rail line connecting Chicago to Milwaukee and Madison. Obama has been planning to develop railways but it has failed so far due to insufficient support from the states.
True, air travel may be cheaper now but a properly maintained high speed railway could be cheaper between certain states, not to mention more environmentally friendly.
I agree that they are the best space agency in the world but it could be better. Republicans have been pushing to cut millions from the earth sciences budget of NASA and if I remember correctly it passed. It will cripple NASA's ability to investigate climate change. NASA's plan to rely on SpaceX to transport astronauts to the ISS was also rejected because of Congress and they must still rely on Russia.
I don't mean banning guns. I mean ineffective gun laws like restricting "assault weapons" and rifles when handguns are the major cause of gun deaths in the US. Many of these laws are for show and do not solve the core issue.
People are easily swayed. Look at how high Trump's approval rate is. How come a pathological liar like Hillary become the major candidate for the Democratic party after so many scandals? Benghazi for example. All the major news sites give the focus to these two candidates when a softspoken and unpopular candidate like Rand Paul is ignored even when his views are very reasonable.
All in all I agree with your last point. Currently democracy is the least worst political system but hypthothetically a meritocracy would be better.
Yes that is why I must read more. Still, the US is one of the larger democratic governments.
Have you read E. M. Forster on the subject?
As for the American system of democracy, it's strange in that it is specifically designed to be inefficient and slow. This way the system can hopefully outlast stupid or corrupt or power hungry individual politicians that sway the masses.
Not sure how effective that's being right now, but oh well. Such is politics.
No but thank you for the link. I will make sure to read it tomorrow after I wake up. Yes I agree that is the advantage of US politics but too many times it becomes a burden instead. It is still objectively better than the Chinese government except for the surveillance.
I was in Japan for two years. Xenophobia was everywhere, lots of "Japanese only" places, getting turned away from onsen, restaurants, etc. I'm white, conservative looking, no tats or piercings, clean, very careful about etiquette.
They smile, but it's because they're nervous.
Foreigners are different, creepy, unpredictable, and unwelcome. Get past that, and they're some of the most rude, unpleasant people you've ever met. They're obsessed with conformity to the point that the whole culture behaves like they're collectively autistic.
Foreigners are blamed for all crime. Paranoia is incredibly high. More than once, I got on a bus only to have the bus driver announce "a foreigner has just gotten on, watch your purses and wallets". I was usually in a business suit. I had it happen a couple of times a month. It was fucking weird.
Maybe Japanese women used to be more interested in "experimenting" with foreign men, but that was another time. Now, they're not even interested in their own men.
Some want some kind of perfect Asian men like they see in dramas, but even then, it's more like they would want to pose for a few pictures to show their friends and then move on. Some of the most sexless, boring, and bitchy people you'll ever meet...there's a reason their population is in a steep decline.
Feminism is a huge thing there now. I behaved just like I would with a female coworker in the US...avoid contact as much as possible, never discuss anything other than work, never compliment or criticize, when talking, avoid looking anywhere below their chin, no joking, interrupting, being anywhere alone with them (especially elevators or offices), etc.
Even so, I was spoken to for making a coworker uncomfortable because I walked past her cubicle to go to the bathroom. I ended up having to walk clear around the other side of the floor so I wouldn't pass her desk and make her feel "unsafe"
Japanese women: Never.
>I am not usually as hardworking unless it is something I am passionate about ww.
I am not either.
>What do you plan to study?
I suck at planning something or following the plans. Things go well for me, when I am driven by urges.
I want to study or learn mathematics, programming, some languages like Korean, Chinese, French or English, playing some musical instrument and drawing pics.
I try to force myself to allocate a bit of time each day to an interest because I procrastinate too much. When I am on the train and have nothing to do I listen to a free Japanese lesson on my phone. 水滴石穿 and you can develop an interest. I hope you will become successful in learning something new.
The question is if this "economic viability" was the cause or effect of previous policies meant to promote car driving instead of trains.
NASA in no way gets the funding it asks for or deserves. Each year their share of GDP spending decreases a little. They are one of the first groups to get their funding cut since they are considered discretionary spending.
Well our democracy generally votes to reject gun laws. Be it because of the constitution that we feel this way, I don't know.
I would disagree that just because democracies have been better for the West the last 70 years, that means they are best for everyone and for the future. Japanese, Taiwanese, or South Korean democracy isn't even democracy. It's much more like Singapore's system, which is what I think Hong Konganon is after. A technocracy.
Which other nations have developed faster than East Asia? These nations are much more technocratic than they are democratic.
You are right that there are other, better, democracies than the US though.
You are right. I would like to see a true technocracy/meritocracy in China one day.
Also I responded to Netherlands anon here. As an American do you think my arguments makes sense?
>would disagree that just because democracies have been better for the West the last 70 years, that means they are best for everyone and for the future.
That's why the people of Taiwan and South Korea overthrew their military dictatorships in favour of democracy.
>Japanese, Taiwanese, or South Korean democracy isn't even democracy. It's much more like Singapore's system, which is what I think Hong Konganon is after. A technocracy.
Except they're totally not like Singapore especially Korea and Taiwan. The PAP in Singapore gerrymanders so much it would make American congressmen blush, just 60% of Singaporeans voted for the PAP, but they have >90% of Parliament's seats (it used to be 100% a few years ago).
Both Korea and Taiwan have had leaders from different parties and ideologies. The fact the some of their laws are more repressive than those of the US doens't make them dictatorships.
>Which other nations have developed faster than East Asia?
The West during the industrial revolution, senpai. Furthermore, during its boom Japan was a democracy.
>Japanese, Taiwanese, or South Korean democracy isn't even democracy.
? JP and SK are quite democratic these days, SK isn't authoritarian anymore, Taiwan is pretty democratic too I guess?
And to be fair none of these countries except for Singapore is on the level of the US in terms of wealth, living standards and influence.
Also Japan is dead.
>That's why the people of Taiwan and South Korea overthrew their military dictatorships in favour of democracy.
No you didn't get what he said, he is saying democracy is not necessarily the best system for everyone.
Oh ok I got a little bit confused.
But anyway country like China sucks from Western perspective and I don't know if I would like to live there but it works for now. And it works better than democratical India.