What do Amerigallons think about changing to the metric system?

Amerifatgunclapburgers don't think

Its not really necessary as we use the metric system for math and science anyway.

The conversions are also quick and easy to remember, 1 mile = ~1.6 km, 1kg = ~2.2 lbs

>>53648810
i genuinely believe, no jokes at all, that people would be killed over this.

>>53648810
We should, but people here don't travel much and so don't really care what other countries do or think.

>>53648922
Why? For most countries, UK included, it was easy.

>>53648947
I wonder how many people think this way
Or how many countries had this opinion

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We will not yield to the insistence of smug yuropoors.

“In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock.” - Thomas Jefferson

The imperial system being used is purely to fuck with foreigners who don't use it.
Metric is used in STEM areas, anyway.

>>53648810
This metric meme is a little silly. Everything we buy already has metric units on it.

Really the only thing that isn't used is Celsius and there's really no everyday advantage to it over Fahrenheit outside of science. Oh and I guess distances but not even the Brits use KM.

I want to adopt ISO date format to fuck with the rest of the world. Also 2016 January 15th or 2016/1/15 works better for natural speech because people usually don't say the year anyway.

>>53648979
some asshole will say its part of some nwo plot. a crazy person will believe it, and then he'll kill people or take over a wildlife refuge or some shit.

12 in= 1 ft
5280ft=1 Mile

retard alert

>>53648998
Would you die if the USA suddenly switched to metric?

>>53649027
I heard such people exist only about mischievous stereotypes about Americans, not in real USA.

>>53648979
>For most countries, UK included, it was easy.
They still don't use all metric units. It fact they use the fucking STONE for body weight which even we don't use.

>>53648979
The land of measuring your weight in Stones is not metric. They have their height in feet and inches. Their roads are marked in miles. They are not really metric.

>>53649073
no. they're real.

>>53649082
>>53649093
Hold on, WHAT?

I suppose this is the appropriate moment not to admit I finished a full-blown five-years course on UK and English language and culture and never heard of it

I don't see why it matters at provided we use metric for science and math

>>53649147
Yeah, but not in business
Hence the question, will you die if you switch to metric

>>53649144
kek

>>53649144
Britbongs use stone.
They should hold onto that very unique and British measurement.

>>53649082
>>53649093
The only things we still use imperial for is height, weight, road distances and beer. The first two are just habit, we usually know our height/weight in both imperial and metric. Road distances are probably kept in miles because it would be a hassle to change all the road signs. And we use pints for beer because it's a good amount to drink.

>>53648810
I have no problems with the idea.

it's not an issue

>>53649249
>Britstones

Makes sense for us to do so, in a vacuum, but the costs associated with making the change are absolutely enormous. Estimated in the tens of billions of dollars.

Not worth it.

>>53649249
I should add that height/weight only really refers to human height/weight. Everything else uses metric.

>>53649144
Wait until you hear about how they have separate faucets in their homes for hot and cold water

>>53648810
Very positive. I already exclusively use the metric system so there would be no change for me. When somebody asks for the temperature, I only give it in Celsius. If somebody asks for my height, I only give it in centimeters. I also use day-month-year dates, even on government forms. If anybody questions this, I simply explain that metric is the most efficient and accurate system of measurement and it's already used by everybody else on the planet so listen up, you might learn something.

I do switch back to imperial when I'm in Europe though

>>53649249
If you use miles in road signs but liters for gas, how do car dealerships advertise fuel efficiency?

>>53648979
>For most countries, UK included, it was easy.

But we still use feet, inches, stones, pounds, miles, yards, acres, fathoms etc

>>53649321
>10 billion
>absolutely enormous
oh no the military won't be able to buy a $12 billion hammer whatever shall we do

>>53649374
>I do switch back to imperial when I'm in Europe though
Shine on.

>>53649376
Miles per litre of petrol, obviously

>>53649364
Yeah, I am aware about that, for a rich developed western country that's supposed to be flawless, it's a pretty flawed idea

>>53649374
>I do switch back to imperial when I'm in Europe though
>>53649415
Yeah, and we still use meme measurements such as "rzut beretem" or "kafel", they don't matter.

>>53649374
what

>>53649376
Miles per gallon. Although that's pretty much the only time we use gallon. We use litres when talking about the size of a petrol tank.

>>53649479
But ours are still legal and half of them are still the primarily used one

Caca peepee butt poop

>>53649455
But that's mixing systems! It's fucking awful!

>>53648810
NEVER

>>53648810
Why don't anglo change to the 24 hours clock.
Their army use it already.

I'm embarrassed but, i don't know the metric system, I remember my science teacher trying to teach it to the class one day saying, "someday we might switch to the metric system so you should try to learn it" i never did tho.

>>53649606
I'm pretty sure only France uses the 24 hour clock in everyday life.

>>53649606
We use both. It's not particularly difficult to convert between one and the other.

I use the metric system in every day life
only niggers and plebs use the imperial

>>53649606
What they said >>53649670

Nurses and Doctors use the 24 hour clock. Also US hospitals annoyingly use the British floor numbering system.

>>53649606
>>53649648
Well, we primarily use the 24 hours clock too. You don't say "o czwartej" (at four), you say "o szesnastej" (at sixteen), though I've heard people trying to use 12 hours here too.

>>53649606
It's preferential here

>>53648810
In day-to-day life it doesn't matter. You never have to convert units to units so it doesn't matter if you're using base 2 or base 10.

However metric is vastly superior in cooking and science. Science, engineering and kitchen texts using Imperial measurements should be burned.

My one problem with metric fags is that they sometimes forget that they, too, are using a made-up arbitrary assignment to describe nature.

>>53649606
Because it doesn't matter

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>>53649606
We use both. 24 hour appears in some job, too. It's just not normal for work environments or normal conversation because, well, clocks.

>>53649744
>Also US hospitals annoyingly use the British floor numbering system.
But it's objectively superior, especially when you have basement floors.

>>53648810
It is a necessity if we want to remain super power status

>>53649884
That makes no sense. B1 B2 etc work perfectly.

>>53648810
Changing all the mile markers on the interstate is going to take a long fucking time.

>>53648810
To much money to switch all the signs.

Also the US did officially switch to the metric sometime in the 1900's, but no president has ever enforced it.

>>53649896
NASA is putting new projects on metric so their systems are compatible mathematically with basically everyone elses stuff apparently.

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>>53648810
What do Europeons think about changing to the Esperanto system?

>>53649744
>>53649884
what's the British floor numbering system like?

>>53648810
We think no.

We already know metric and changing signs is expensive. Plus it pisses the rest of you off which we like a lot.

>>53650168
There were dual-unit signs back in the 1970s, but the mandate ran out in 1982.

>not measuring temperature in Kelvin
śmh

>>53650292
That, and because of that one time we used imperial measurement values with a guidance system coded in metric and lost a satellite.
Woooooo boy, talk about embarrassing.

>>53650340
US UK
4th 3rd
3rd 2nd
2nd 1st
1st Ground
Basement 1

>>53650340
IIRC
1st storey is ground floor
2nd storey is 1st floor
3rd storey is 2nd floor
etc.

>>53650340
It's zero-based to the ground floor

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>>53650098
Lets say you want to work out how many floors you need to go down to get from floor x to floor y. The most obvious way to do this would be x - y. This works fine for both systems when you're above ground level. For example, going from 2F to 1F gives 2 - 1 = 1. But when you factor in basement floors, the yank system no longer works. For example, 3F to B3F has a difference of 6 floors. Using the Brit system and our old formula, you get 3 - -3 = 6. With the yank system, there is only a difference of 5 floors so it no longer works.

>>53649703
>implying we use imperial
When's the last time you weighed something in stone? We use Customary.

>>53648810
I'd rather skin my children alive inch by inch, nail my feet together and roll off a skyscraper and cath my eyelid on a protruding nail on the way down and land in 300 gallons of battery acid.

>>53650527
When would that math ever be useful? Are you counting floors when you use the stairs because I just look at the floor label next to the door.

>>53650434
That's, uhh. That's not good.

>>53650585
>and land in 1135.624 liters of battery acid.
Fixed.

>>53648903
>>53649038

It's easy to remember that 1 mile is 1.6 km, but can you convert 2.7 miles to km as easily?

>>53650443
>>53650455
>>53650486
Confusing. I've noticed different systems in our buildings depending on their age. Like how old buildings don't have a 13th floor listed. Usually it's

3rd
2nd
Ground
Basement

>>53650585
this desu senpai

>>53649038
I'm going to be honest here: I really don't know why the mile is like that. It doesn't even divide cleanly with yards.

That said, I still think it's a more useful distance to measure by than kilometers.

>>53650651
I've named a benefit of our system, so the score is current Brits 1: Yanks 0. You're the one who needs to show a benefit of your method.

>>53649073
>Would you die if the USA suddenly switched to metric?

It would be extremely painful

>>53650585
Really old people here complain about us not knowing your temperature system or imperial. There was lots of protesting when we switched over and it flared up again as old farts start dealing with younger generations at work who don't know their derelict math systems.

>>53650838
While we still use miles here, I would say that km is more useful. There isn't a huge difference between a mile and a km, but km has the benefit of being metric (and therefore being much easy to convert between smaller units).

>>53650846
The benefit of ours is that when you start engaging with something you start with the first. This is my first beer. This is the first floor. Logic.

>>53650924
KM is more useful, mile is more comfy.

I appreciate that about the British system, and wish America would accept the distinction.

>>53650949
The thing is that you don't really "start" with the ground floor, since the ground floor is technically on the same level with the outside. You aren't really "starting" to climb up the building until you reach the first floor that is not on ground level. For example, you walk up one flight of stairs to reach the first floor, two flights of stairs to reach the second floor, etc.

>>53650846
>It's an advantage because I say it is despite being unable to think of a single reason why it's actually useful
Ok, my system is at an advantage because Ground takes up more ink than the number 1 and our buildings don't need to waste that extra ink.

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>>53651099
In addition to this, you technically start of with zero beers. Then you drink your first beer.

>>53651099
>floors exist for climbing
That is retarded. Floors exist to create useful space. The first useful space is the ground/1st floor.

>>53651173
If the relativity of the floors to one another do not matter, then what's the point of numbering them in the first place?

>>53651218
Because people aren't even creative enough to make up new city names when colonizing, you think they could give each floor a unique non numerical name?

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>>53651164
You are always at zero beers. It's only when you engage with beers that you enter into one. The useful distinction remains the first beer.

>>53651099
I am on the first floor of my single-story building. The first floor I encountered when I set foot inside.

Don't go all continental on me here, Simon

>>53648810
Probably a smart decision.

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>mfw americans come to my country and drive 100mph because they're too retarded to understand what the other half of their speedometer says

>>53651352
When someone is born, they are considered to be 0 years old, not 1 year old. By default, you start with zero until you actively make a change.

This isn't just with floor numbers, it extends to multiple sciences. In physics, someone at ground level is considered to have 0 GPE. Computers are entirely logic-based machines and they start with 0, not 1. Logic dictates that you should start with 0.

>>53651633
But their zeroth year of life is most commonly called their first year.

>>53651099
The 0th floor of a building is, logically, the ground outside the building.

>>53651679
The ground outside the building is on the same level as the ground floor of the building (which is why it's called the ground floor). So that means that the ground floor should be called the 0th floor.

>>53651633
And to expand, it's that that separates the anglo who is subservient only to humanity from the continental who is subservient to theory.

>>53651780
That is illogical, because the bottommost level of a building still has a floor, as in the bit you walk on. 0th indicates the absence of a floor, which would be either bare earth or a pit.

>>53652071
No, the 0th floor indicates an absence of a change in floor (which is true, since you're still on ground level).

It's a reddit-tier debate. I already know metric but would much rather use the imperial system in everyday speech.

>>53648810
Please save me from the imperial system.

I honestly wouldn't care if we switched.

I know it already so I don't give a shit.

I'm just more comfortable with imperial standard.

i heard bush tried in late 2000s but it didnt worked so he gave up

>>53652158

>reddit-tier

We've been doing this for years, fuck off.

>>53649422
As a US service member I totally agree with you.
four out of my five days in garrison go like this:

Physical training for 1 1/2 hours
Fuck off for two hours
Pretend to work (but do basically nothing) for two hours
Fuck off for 1 1/2 hours
Pretend to work (but do basically nothing) for 3 1/2 hours
"Work" ends.

One that fifth day something will catastrophically break and I'll be in full panic fix-it mode all day to the point of skipping lunch and staying late to put more work in.

>>53652118
On the contrary, there is a change in floor: from the ground outside to the floor within.

At a very basic level nothing should ever be labeled 0th,since it's a non-quantity.

Also your reasoning fails to account for buildings where the ground floor is not actually at ground level, i.e. any building with steps leading up to the entrance or which was built on uneven ground.

>>53652418

The military still fully works on imperial standard. I think that's why we're like "fuck you" on switching. It's so fucking practical.

>>53652478
And we don't label it 0th, we call it the ground floor (G). It's only referred to as floor 0 when talking about its relativity to other floors.

And actually, in some buildings we have an upper and lower ground floor (referred to as UG and LG respectively) when the entrance is raised up by steps or you can enter the building from two levels. This is allowed because the concept of a ground floor is separate from the other numbered floors so we're able to arbitrarily split it up as much as we like. The yank system would fall apart if you had entrances to two seperate floors of the same building.

>>53652737
Not it doesn't. My apartment in uni had an entrance on two different floors.
The lowest floor with a street entrance was floor 1. The higher one was floor 2.

>>53649073
>Would you die if the USA suddenly switched to metric?

Perhaps. I know of at least one instance where Canada almost killed several people as a byproduct of their switch from Imperial to Metric. Look up the Gimli Glider, and keep in mind that if the same error was made in from metric to US customary instead of the other way around, the plane would have had an excess of fuel, instead of running out of it less than half way into the flight.

The only reason the metric system doesn't have a death toll of at least 69 people more than it does is because that pilot was an absolute bad ass.

>>53652807
But lets say that I entered the higher floor first, then it would be my "first floor".

>>53652838
The idea of the american "first floor" is that it's the "first floor" you enter. But in your case, I've entered the second floor.

>>53652838
The building does not care what floor you entered. If you assaulted the penthouse from an attack helicopter it does not magically become the first floor.
The first floor is the lowest floor with a street entrance.

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>first floor debate
>metric debate

You faggots are ignoring the most important question: Green or Red?

Red tier master race reporting in

>>53652908
But what defines a street entrance? What if there's an entrance from an underground floor? Would that be the first floor? It's very vague, which is why the British version is objectively superior.

>>53650838
Miles DO divide cleanly into yards: 1,760 yards to a mile.

We'd have more of a problem there if the British kept on using 5,000 feet for a mile, which they were going to do until they decided to make their mile match the Roman mile.

But hey, we do have this pretty cool little-used and comparatively little-known unit called the furlong, which is an eighth of a mile, which is 220 yards, or 660 feet. I'm about to mix in another specialized unit here, but depths for things like anchor chain lengths and shipping tend to use the fathom, which is six feet.

If you (improperly, since as I said, it's a unit of depth) mix in the fathom with the other units, then you get...

3 feet to 1 yard, 2 yards to 1 fathom, 110 fathoms to 1 furlong, and 8 furlongs to 1 mile.

3×2×110×8=5280 feet to a mile, as assembled from smaller increments.

Or, if you want to remember the 5280 figure the way Americans actually do instead of the way a mathematician would, there's a mnemonic device I always used:

Deck of cards around the world

52 cards to a deck, around the world in 80 days, 5280 feet in a mile. Easy!

>>53652865
That's because you're bringing up an exception, not the rule. Most buildings only have one floor for an entrance, MAYBE a basement entrance. Even if you assume the latter case, then the basement in the US floor numbering system is the ground floor, so it'd be consistent with the British proposal for different reasons.

>>53652909
Oh shit, this never even occurred to me.

But yeah, red lettering master race: better visibility, just like how people tend to ignore green/yellow firetrucks in the US.

>>53652982
None of the challenges to the American system are unique to it. If there are multiple floors accessible from the outside, the distinction between which floor is the 1/G and which is B1 or 2/1 is ultimately just as arbitrary.
It makes sense to those that use it and when one of us visits the other country we're just confused.

>>53653047
I love measuring things in furlongs purely because it's a fun word to use.

>>53653207
I take it you use the Furlong/Firkin/Fortnight system of measurement?

I'd also recommend measuring your temperatures in degrees Rankine, the US Customary equivalent to Kelvin: add 459.67 to all of your Fahrenheit measurements.

>>53651478
nice même

>>53650846
Honestly, this debate is inane. It may come as a surprise, but not everything needs to be done exactly the same way around the world.

Limeys: 0 Yanks: 0

We already use metrics when we do science. Imperial is for everyday stuff where it doesn't really matter which you use.

>>53653158
>green/yellow firetrucks
what a mistake

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>>53648810
It will never happen.

>>53648810
I literally, unironically prefer the American system simply because it is unique, inefficient and causes massive butthurt all over world because we remain the foremost scientific power despite a measurement system from the stone ages

it's like giving the rest of the world a head start and still beating them in the race

plus how the fuck am i supposed to visualize 140 centimeters what the fuck

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Nobody really uses the full metric system though.

How many days in a week? 7, why not 10

How many hours in a day? 24, why not 10

How many minutes in an hour? 60, why not 100

How many months in a year?

So it is really a matter of how far you want to take this french autism. We choose to keep it in our science labs and don't allow it any further.

>>53655150
Do you see what I live with, /int/? Do you see?
What's a nice place to immigrate to right now?

meh, i already use Metric for nearly everything at work.
occasionally i have to use SAE tools, usually for random shit or stuff that old. SAE works pretty well for when you have damaged metric fasteners which your metric tools wont "grab".

for example, got a rounded, rusty 10mm nut that won't come off? tap a 3/8" size socket on it and use impact, generally it'll come right off.


can't find your 19mm wrench? 3/4" size wrench will work.

don't have a 22mm size wrench/socket? 7/8" works pretty well for it.

etc, etc.

i'll admit i prefer metric, but American comes in handy.

>>53648810

I support it.

>>53648810
Why would I need to change to a base ten system when I am perfectly capable of using the correct units in my own system. Are Europeans so weak witted that they can't do unit conversions that they can't do on their fingers?

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>>53654846
because your a nation of faggots.

>>53654772
Indeed it was, which is why New York City quickly changed back to firetruck red: people weren't pulling over when they colored their emergency equipment in "high-visibility" green.

We need the imperial system, how else will we know if someone is a sub 6 foot manlet?

>>53648878
Oy vey!

>>53649000
Engineers use imperial, machining is also done mostly in imperial.

Just don't totally convert over. We didn't. We still use Imperial for construction shit, and some other things too.


But for the love of god at least move over to Celsius

>>53648810
Queer shit for faggot communists

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>>53649374

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>>53648810
pointless