so who of you has infiltrated the Trump staff?
The real question is who infiltrated Bernie's body?
It could happen theoretically, but not practically.
He would have to win the primary, and then beat the Dem nominee, who is likely Hillary.
Just winning the nomination will be difficult, and if he doesn't, running as an Independent won't save him (but it will guarantee Hillary a win).
He has a lot of appeal. Again Hillary, I think he could definitely win it.
>Hillary Clinton 337
>Bernie Sanders 9
Fuckin' dipshit. The DNC is literal machine politics and they chose Hillary for 2016 back in 08' when she gave up her delegates for Obama.
Every president is a meme since they serve double duty as head of state and government. Think about it. Can you think of one that wasn't in the past hundred years?
Besides, the American system is kinda like electing a semi-dictator for one or two fixed terms. That isn't necessarily bad -- just different. You've got to wear a lot of hats to be POTUS.
If Trump wins your country is literally fucked.He's a businessman. He doesn't give a shit about America and even less about its inhabitants. He's just saying what the right-wing people want to hear so they elect him and once he's in office his only goal will be to make as much money out of it.
Hilary is just an unlikable cunt-puppet for her big lobbiegroup backers.
The best option is Bernie, I could understand why you wouldn't want to vote for a socialist, but he really is farout the best candidate.
If Sanders continues to steal Clinton's thunder, but gets thrown under the bus, the Democratic Party is going to face a real shitstorm from a large portion of their base. The Superdelegates still have about half a year left to jump from the sinking ship.
I wonder if this will light up some fires underneath dem voters when they know what actually IS at stake here.
I'm also worried whenever or not he is a "meme". There seems to be some serious genuine trumpers out there, and that's considering that most of the internet doesn't want you to see or know about thus rarely showing them
If Trump cared about making money from being President he'd probably accept some for his campaign like literally every single other US politician in history.
Pissing away his own cash in an endeavor literally no one thought he could achieve does not gel with your idiot making money theory.
"dumb" wasn't about him, I was talking about the "dumb american" stereotype. The people he caters for. (as seen in OP)
When I called him an idiot, I meant it as a clown. I don't think he's extremely inteligent, but I also don't think he's very dumb.
It doesn't really mather, what matters is his plan.
I'd rather have Trump than Hillary 2bh
>this is a normal political campaign for Americans
Well, last time he ran, he coincidentally just published a book right after that became the best seller making him millions.
Either way, he can afford not to accept campaign donations. And in not doing so, will appear even more attractive to the public. But once he gets into office, he can start making some serious cash if that is indeed his agenda in the long run.
Also, from a business aspect, who wouldn't want to do business with Mr President even after he's done in the office?
>US Air Force
Bernie would actually cut their funding, what the hell?
Trump does not give a fuck about money, this is such an asinine theory I can't believe anyone would have it. He already has more than God.
He cares about his ego. He has money already, now he wants power.
>>this is a normal political campaign for Americans
It's not, he is drawing crazy numbers for these early rallies.
That kid skit was cringy and I had to close it though
>all those wasted guaca bowls
>they're sea turtles!
Motherfucker do you not know what Super PACs are?
Fact: Sanders has raised money from more donors than any politician in US history. Have a source:
Russia has better lolis.
My bad, i read
>Bernie has LITERALLY accepted money from more donors than any politician in US history
>Bernie has LITERALLY accepted more money from donors than any politician in US history
Thinking you said that he raised more donations in term of cash than anyone else ever has
I promise you that you could not.
The average person does not get a couple million when they turn 18 and turn it into 10 billion dollars. The average person at 18 does a shit ton of sluts and blow and coasts through life.
You need to have an assload of ambition and intellect to not be content with being super rich instead of "fuck you I can buy your country" rich.
None of Trump's siblings are as successful as Trump. Trump's dad isn't as successful as Trump. Trump's dad had net worth 300 million at his death (423 million in 2015 dollars). Trump is currently worth $4.5 billion. 10x what his dad was worth.
>mfw elections literally anywhere
Why do people accept such cheap and cringeworthy stunts from their representatives?
>Trump is currently worth $4.5 billion.
And actually that's low because it's based on taxed assessed values of properties which are typically about half of market value. Trump has most of his money in real property.
The song doesn't sing "we have the highest economic freedom".
In USA it has connotations of liberty, though I know it means different things to different people, same as "peace" or "love" or any other virtue or admirable thing. Why is America's love of freedom treated as something embarassing?
How is that song "right authoritarian"?
Hell even Trump isn't very "authoriarian":
I don't think stuff used to be as hokey. This goofy demeanor is a result of modern society and pop culture. It's the conflation of acceptance at all levels of everything and Reddit. Thr manifestststion of which is this kind of silly stuff. It's amusing though, who cares desu.
What fucking world are you living in? Why do you think that the DNC debates are thrown in dumping ground time-slots, or during the premier of Star Wars? It's because they don't matter -- at all. Better to just sweep that shit under the rug and pretend something of import happened in the morning news. Bet you five bucks you couldn't name the other democrat candidates that aren't Bernie or Hillary.
Hate to break it to you but Sanders isn't stealing shit from Hillary. Here, in the real world, the most outrageous nightmare scenario is he gets picked as VP under the Clinton ticket. That I could see happening. You're living in fucking la-la land dude. No matter how much you want it to happen, Bernie is not going to get the nomination or become president. Best you just accept it and move on.
>Honestly I like that part. They basically can't amass complete power and they only in the worst case scenario fuck shit up for 8 years.
No shit. The UK got butt-fucked hard by Labour for years because there is no such restriction under the Westminster system. And how many Australian PMs in the last decade were just party appointed after throwing out the one that was elected?
Again, probably the least stupid and absurd period in American history.
We had an entire presidential campaign where the rhetoric centered on whether or not a candidate's wife was an actual literal prostitute.
They have two investigations open against her
>her email scandal and lying to the feds about said scandal
>corruption about donations to her foundation by people she helped while secretary of state
Everyone knows she is guilty of both and there is a mountain of evidence on the email one.
The attack on the compound was simply a convenient way to distract from the true reason for American presence in Benghazi- for the CIA to smuggle guns from Libya to Syrian rebels via Turkey.
It is a cover-up, but not in the way you think. Both Hillary and the GOP are in on it.
No wonder though they're going for Trumpy Dumpy when this exists in the US.
>the queen Latifa show
I laughed so hard at this.
>the Democratic Party is going to face a real shitstorm from a large portion of their base.
Lmao, nothing will happen because most of the base will tell themselves that Hillary's still better than a "Republikkkan thug that wants pardon abortion clinic bombers and genocide illegals"
The US can not afford four more years of democrats, besides, we never had a great negotiator, and i like the idea of teaming up with putin to take care of Assad and Syria and ISIS , I think he really thinks out of the box and can bridge some Dem's and Republican's away from both parties
I don't recall mentioning anything about the debates, so I'm not sure where that's coming from.
As for the rest of your... intriguing conjecture, I don't suppose you have any sort of proofs?
>Both of the Democratic contenders beat him in the polls.
Clinton is beating him by 2 points on realclearpolitics
he's winning if you drop the absurdly skewed Quinnipiac poll that is nowhere near the other results
>ledditors who really think clinton is going to lose to bernie
you guys realize that bernie is unelectable because he has zero minority appeal, right?
This will be the first year where whites are less than 50% of the democrat vote.
Bernie is less popular than 'no opinion' on state polls that represent democrat party demographics.
>h-h-he's winning Iowa and New Hampshire!
Wow, 99% white rich liberal states.
As long as FBI agents don't, too.
Good point. What if they release their findings and leave actions/arrests to take place after Obama is out of office? That'd help, surely.
The sad thing is that this is exactly what American voters want the political process to be like.
He's done a great job of catering to the lowest common denominator of white Americans by making his campaign just like a fucking TLC reality TV show. On top of that, all of his rhetoric is dumbed down to elementary school level language.
>"AMERICA GOOD! OTHER PEOPLE BAD!"
>"GET BAD OUT OF AMERICA! MAKE AMERICA GOOD!"
Meanwhile, the rest of the GOP looks like a bunch of people who were really successful in their college debate team, and are now trying to see how far they can get on debate skills alone.
>all of his rhetoric is dumbed down to elementary school level language.
>making your message understood by as many people as possible is somehow a bad thing
That's pretty fucking smug, m8.
But for her to go in front of congress and throw her security officials under the bus when she says she did not know that there might be a security "situation" in a country that was just overthrown, that rustled my jimmy's, thats why you are the boss and call all the shots ... with all the weapons flowing throught there I would have parked a Marine division at that emabssy with a carrier just for "emergencies" ... I think Billary is very arrogant in that regrd
>you guys realize that bernie is unelectable because he has zero minority appeal, right?
>inb4 the BLM protesters and the rape fanfic
This is what the gap between Clinton and Sanders is actually like in states that represent your party's demographics.
You're an absolute idiot if you think he's going to take the nomination.
I hope you dumbasses realize why he won't win though.
hint: it's his white male privilege
Yeah, I'll get on that.
Just give me some proof Bernie fucking Sanders has more than a snowballs chance in hell of winning the nomination you smartass cocksucking motherfucker. Don't play dumb. You know full well what the debates mean.
>bernie rising, slowly but surely
>2016 starts with hillary sinking
>6 months to go
>tfw the bern
>Just give me some proof Bernie fucking Sanders has more than a snowballs chance in hell of winning the nomination you smartass cocksucking motherfucker. Don't play dumb. You know full well what the debates mean.
There isn't any.
They'll cite his performance in states that don't represent the democrat party's demographics then ignore everything else.
They're fucking stupid
Never said it was bad. In fact, it's very smart. Too many politicians make the mistake of assuming that the majority of American voters are in any way politically savvy. Instead, Trump gives people exactly what they want - a ridiculous character reminiscent of their favorite reality show stars who stirs up drama and embellishes it with policies so vague that you only need to be 10 years old to understand them.
Even if he doesn't win, his campaign will likely be used as a template for future elections,
I RECOGNIZE THAT SONG
I'm on the volunteer list but haven't been contacted for a job yet.
I signed up for "social media" and IT crap. Unfortunately they really need people with some kind of social media presence which, as a good 4channer I do not. Still, it will be interesting to see what they want me to do.
She's a good friend of mine.
Yeah, I feel like that song pretty much sums up everything someone would need to know about Trump's campaign in a few short minutes.
Why do you think the Democrats make (and historically, have made) such a big deal out of them?
Bernie doesn't need SC to win. It's a rough loss, but not a campaign killer.
Just fuck off back to reddit. You write like an autistic college freshman -- they'd love you over there. I bet you probably regret you weren't old enough to vote for Obama in 08', you little queer.
See, I'm under no obligation to back up anything. I gave you some reasons why the DNC primaries are a sham and you declined to tell me why they aren't. You also failed to even mention why Bernie is competitive.
So suck my dick. This was never an argument and 4chan isn't debate club, faggot.
The best part of 2016 will be watching berniefags get shit on
probably the most annoying internet-based group since reddit atheists, how convenient it's pretty much an entire overlap.
>I bet Putin would also like this.
Putin already endorsed Trump.
Probably because the democrats are major warhawks when it comes to Russia. We had great relations with Russia under GWB.
it's amusing what non-americans think are 'memes' in America
like blacks really thinking they're all kings and queens that were stolen from Africa? That's not a meme.
Afghanistan's filled with qts, surprisingly enough.
Yes, you're true. I've been in Iran and in Afghanistan too; only the Herat and save parts and it was awesome. Friendly people, lovely girls etc. Still have contact with many of the people I've met by social media.
>What the fuck am I even watching
She has a boyfriend. It sucks, I know.
Very friendly. Would have been a very inexpensive trip on its own, but I never had to spend a penny on food and lodging because of the wonderful hospitality of the people I met. Most weren't extremely religious either, which I thought was pretty cool.
It's because even they can see how much they don't need their insane amount of funding. They literally use it on outdated models of shit they don't need and never will use. That and getting out of shit hole countries to fortify murica is also something the military is in favor of.
>enemies of freedom, come on boyz take 'em down
>This idiot can't actually get elected right?
The meme answer is "Yes," the actual answer is "No, you dumb fucking idiot."
The GOP establishment would literally sooner scuttle the Republican Party before letting Trump become their nominee.
He won't even make it past the primaries and if you'd been following US politics at all for longer than the past decade you'd know this.
I swear, some of you really do seem to have been born yesterday.
You realize that the GOP has literally no choice but to nominate Trump right? If he runs independent he will steal the majority of the GOP's votes and cause the Dems to win the election
>i'm not even a socialist and i would vote for Bernie
>not a socialist
Whatever you say m8
Explaine me the concept of muh freedoms in American "culture". I mean why do they praise some abstract term like a God?
What does it mean "freedom"? Freedom to do what? freedom for what? It's not medieval times, we don't use primitive slaves anymore, do we?
I also live in Illinois. Still voting for Trump while hoping the negroes up in Chiraq love the great white satan. Also to piss off my retarded friends who think MUH BERNIE can win the primary
>implying shillary is going to give up her DNC votes AGAIN
You do realize this is provocative behavoir of teen agers - to do something others don't like? So American freedom is to behave like driunk underage apes without aby respect to others?
>You realize that the GOP has literally no choice but to nominate Trump right? If he runs independent he will steal the majority of the GOP's votes and cause the Dems to win the election
Trust me, the GOP would rather lose the executive seat to Hillary and try again in 2020 than let Trump represent tem. I don't think you realize how much the party mainstays hate him, he's alienated most of them except the Tea Party fringe. Calling McCain a loser who got caught and getting hostile with Fox News anchors hasn't exactly ingratiated helped him.
That's why people are starting to wonder if he's a Democrat plant, even though the reality is much more mundane and straight-forward than that; this is basically a play-by-play repeat of his 2000 campaign, even down to the platform he ran on. And the end result was being able to sell more books and stay relevant in the public consciousness.
The fact is that early polling is extremely unreliable, and on the rare occasions when they've proven prophetic in naming the nominee, it's always without fail been an establishment candidate.
This is a stupid post, I just wanted to point out its stupidity.
Whatever you might think about him as being some hope or messiah figure based on his incessant pandering to whatever viewpoint he thinks will grab headlines (and becoming biggest flip-flopper in the history of US politics as a result), the numbers just don't back him up.
Giuliani had a more favorable lead and where is he now?
Also, Trump doesn't have the endorsements, which are more important than total fundraising, more important than what the prediction markets say... and yes, more important than polls.
Endorsements matter not only because they point to who insiders think will win, but also because the people who make endorsements, namely other elected officials, can influence the outcome of the race by strengthening a candidate’s local ground game, promoting the candidate to fellow party leaders and pitching the candidate to voters.
You know how poker and baseball isn't really about chance, but actual statistics and strategy? US presidential elections are very similar, and the insiders who actually placing their bets see Trump's chances as hovering around 2% to as low as -10%.
So don't tell me what I do or don't know, I seem to be one of the few people on this board actually paying any attention and not just meming my way through this cesspool.
after bush the gop doesn't stand a chance using party main stayers beliefs
there is no way any other candidate even has a chance against hillary or bernie
even trump is a slim chance against one of them
It's the opposite, Trump has an even lower chance of winning against Hillary precisely because he's so inconsistent when he's not being wildly batshit and unrealistic.
He's basically turning his party into a joke, and all his policies upon scrutiny don't hold up. His higher tariffs on Chinese imports? They're going to hit consumers like a freight train, and don't even get me started on "getting Mexico to pay for a wall" or "banning all Muslims from entering the country."
The other candidates aren't following suit, not because they're too afraid of "pissing off SJWs" or whatever, but because they know after the shitstorm has cleared, the last thing they want to do is be caught having parroted Trumpisms when their campaign is getting serious.
Except when you crunch the numbers, the trade-off in this case just isn't going to make up the difference.
And many low-wage industries that have migrated to China, such as textiles and electronics manufacturing, are likely to stay there.
US businesses and entrepreneurs are more interested in making specialized products that can't be produced just anywhere, AND in coming up with new products that command higher profit margins.
The best way to boost U.S. growth therefore is to encourage high-end innovation, not fence off low-wage jobs that can be performed anywhere. That's just stupid.
all the other republican candidates are parroting main party beliefs like "trickle down" "less taxes for the rich"
obama has done the complete opposite of what the mainstream gop says is good for the economy and the economy is a whole better now than it was under bush
bush basically killed the gop. the only thing the gop has to get swing states is "political correctness is annoying", the reason trumps doing so well is because his campaign is just anti-pc stuff.
the gop needs to modernize some of its ideas or it will never be able to win another election.
SANDERS IS BEATING HILLARY, CRUZ, AND TRUMP IN IOWA AND NEW HAMPSHIRE BY WIDE MARGINS
Bernie leading in New Hampshire against Hillary
>53% to 39% (4)
Bernie leading in Iowa against Hillary
>49% to 44% (5)
SANDERS LEADS AGAINST BOTH GOP FRONTRUNNERS IN IOWA AND NEW HAMPSHIRE
Sanders beats Cruz in New Hampshire: 55% to 36% (19)
in Iowa: 47% to 42% (5)
Sanders beats Trump in New Hampshire: 56% to 37% (19)
in Iowa: 52% to 38% (13)
The Wall Street Journal/NBC News/Marist Poll
CLINTON LOSES TO CRUZ IN IOWA AND NEW HAMPSHIRE BY FOUR POINTS!!!
Clinton beats Trump by one point in New Hampshire: 45% to 44% (1)
in Iowa: 48% to 40% (8)
Cruz beats Clinton in New Hampshire: 47% to 43% (-4)
in Iowa Cruz beats Clinton: 48% to 44% (-4)
The Wall Street Journal/NBC News/Marist Poll
Jeb Bush has the most endorsements out of anybody and he has nothing to show for it. Trump absolutely does not need them to be nominated or elected. But keep up the snark, I'm sure you're very enlightened.
>Jeb Bush has the most endorsements out of anybody and he has nothing to show for it.
There's no snark about it, Jeb has the most endorsements and is also favored by statisticians to pull ahead as the race starts going into full swing. And even if he doesn't pull through, the most likely candidate to win the primaries would be Rubio.
The problem is that you're so hung up on early polling instead of the actual history of early polling that you're completely ignoring how notoriously unreliable it is. Trump's numbers now are lower than Giuliani in 2008.
That's just reality. Sorry to rain on your parade, but it's probably better to hear it now than to find out about it after Trump doesn't win the nomination and you and your echo chamber mates start crying foul and accusing the elections of being rigged in some insidious left-wing/Jew conspiracy, etc.
If you honestly think Senor Jeb has any chance of connecting with voters you are insane. No matter how many millions of dollars is pumped into him there will be no comeback. No amount of smug anime pictures are going to change that.
I mean, taking out the flag, singing patriotic songs after fucking gunfire and all that stuff. That's literally one of the worse stereotypes about americans in the eyes of foreigners
Keep telling yourself that.
People saying he'll lose based on this gaffe or that gaffe are clueless idiots, I agree. The fact is that he'll lose the nomination because he never had a chance of winning it in the first place.
I guess you don't look at the fiddly side of how voters behave. There's a substantial portion of people who are more likely to vote against a candidate they don't like than vote for a candidate they do. It's a problem associated with winner-takes-all voting. It's very likely that Trump will get burned by this kind of strategic voting. As a general rule, what ends up happening is that votes accumulate towards the tail end of a campaign on the moderate/traditional candidate, versus unconventional candidates who tend to shed votes as campaigns go on. Bush is likely to soak up the negative votes against Trump in a similar way to how Trudeau soaked up anti-Harper votes. This is just a quirk of how democratic elections and voter priorities play out.
>love of cunt and its values is a bad thing
You're a dumb cunt. Cruz wants to abolish the IRS and replace it with a 10% flat tax.
Stop trying to steal other people's money, and start keeping your own instead.
One day, when you're all grown up, you'll realize the only things keeping you down are 1) You and / or 2) The government.
>tfw based Jim "Punished Snake" Webb will never be president and usher in a new age of moderate pragmatic leadership, bringing compromise and decent economic policies back to the U.S.
Would operate from an oil rig base with/10
I Wonder where i've seen this before?
Please someone nuke us and end this failed abortion of a country.
Is no one going to point out how those fake fucking cunts are clearly lip syncing? That's the most embarrassing part of this whole video.
couldn't make it past 10 seconds
jesus fucking christ
America is a country founded by puritans. In these secular times they need some sort of objective morality to guide them, it's in their national psyche. So they worship abstract concepts like freedom and their founding fathers as idols.
Leftists are mentally ill and unstable
why can't the russians be based again, and invade the US once and for all