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Why is Lviv still under Ukranian control?
Do Poles have no balls or pride?
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Why is Belfast still under British control?
Do the Irish have no balls or pride?
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>>53576038
This is that same story like with finnish clay in russia.
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because poles actually controlling the whole ukraine
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>>53576038
*Lwów
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>>53576038
If they pushed for Lwow right now it would give Germany the moral high ground needed to justify its planned invasion of Poland.
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>>53576073
You could actually beat ukraine though
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all rightful clay must be returned
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>>53576094

no wonder its so shit
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>>53576173
What would be left out of Ukraine if all neighbors took land that belonged to them in the past?
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>>53576289
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>>53576038
What a weird way to spell Lemberg
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>>53576321
>Odessa
>joining Russia

TOP LYL
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>>53576173
How did Poland get cucked so hard by it's neighbours at the zenith of it's power?
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Because it's 2016 and we live in civilized world without wars.
Alslo it's full of Ukrainians anyway, so we dont really want it, only nationalistic bydło is like GIBE LWÓW BACK XDDD
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>>53576347
I think you're referring to Livingham, chap.
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>>53576424
Muh democracy leading to bunch od internal problems
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>>53576398

- retarded political and administrative system leading to decentralisation and too much power in hands of scummy "nobility"
- very powerful neighbours (Russia, Austria, Prussia/Brandenburg, Ottomans, Tatars), we often have to fight like 3 of them at the same time
- very diverse population (catholics, orthodoxs, muslims, poles, ruthenians, lithuanians, cossacks etc) who hated each other
- lack of natural defence borders
- and more
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>>53576387
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>>53576038
I steal bicycle of my neighbor,but his spotted, ashamed, and i need to return it. But that's a damn fine bicycle and i want it back.
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>>53576544
Meant to
>>53576398
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>>53576437
No, it's Livija, rightful Macedonian clay.
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>>53576551
Glory to Ukraine.

t. Lougansk
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>>53576094
Not true.
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>>53576612
I think you mean לעמבערג
t. yid
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It's a shithole now anyway.
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>>53576549
>>53576398
Also Res publica is the most retardet political system there is, it has the weakness of seperated power but not the stabilität among the people that one can get by a full republic
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>>53576694
Isn't all that stuff was actually built by austrians?
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>>53576551
>yanukovich is pro-russian
Nice meme. He was only pro-money thug who used to steal hats.
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>>53576648
You're right. How many if my tax dollars do you need to take it back?
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>>53576761
What the fuck are you talking about?

We have a term "bieda galicyjska" it reffers to Austrian administration of the lands they got from Poland. From one of the richest regions of Poland to a total shithole in a matter of years.
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>>53576694
this 2bh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbckMNgkicQ
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>>53576761
More like all of it was build by house of Wettin, the power of the Habsburgers themself was never that big in
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>>53576551
Dude, that's 2010. The turnout for Euromaidan protests there was large, and they even accidentally the pro-Russian protest after someone took pot shots (no one knows which side started it) and no one did a thing. And then when Russia invaded Crimea and the Donbass, holy shit the butthurt was real in that city. It was real in most Russian-speaking regions too; by presenting the Ukrainians with a common enemy, Putin's almost wiped away ethnic tensions in the country, so bravo master tactician Putin I guess.

>>53576694
>implying most Soviet era cities established well before 1917 don't have nice old town centers and shitty commie blocks everywhere else
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>>53576836
Fuck off with your bullshit.

Saxonshits were stealing not building.
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>tfw you will never see a reborn Ruthenia in your lifetime
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>>53576626
Doesn't really matter now does it. Pro-ukranians in Donetsk and lugansk suffered the same fate as pro-russians in kharkiv and Odessa. Survival of the fittest.
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>>53576836

Wettins raped little children
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>>53576551
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlR2cDChjKg
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>>53576855
>nice old town centers
Yeah, build by Poles.
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>>53576827
>bieda galicyjska
Lel. I just assumed that since Lvov shares many architectural features with Prague, Budapest, Novi-Sad, Krokow etc-cities of Austro-Hungarian Empire.
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>>53576880
>tfw Ruthenian heritage
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>>53576761
No. Look at the dates:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_Square_(Lviv)
Almost all are before partitions.
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>>53576985
maybe because we build stuff in the western style?
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>>53576880
Yeah, you will definitely never.
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;_;
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>>53576038
why is northern Ireland still under british control?
Do the Irish have no balls or pride?
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>>53576993
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_Square_(Lviv)
>Among these, in 1387 King Wladyslaw Jagiello accepted the homage of Petru I of Moldavia here
>Petru I of Moldavia
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>>53577112
>tfw Petru is literally everywhere
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>>53577026
So you men you build liek austrians? Because you don't build like Swedes, English or italians. All cities I mentioned has one style despite the are in different countries and the only thing they share is that they were part of Austrian Empire.
>>53576993
I don't say everything was built by someone one.
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>>53577112
>>53577167
>Petru
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Vice-speaker of our parliament offered them to take part in dismembering Ukraine but they chickened out.
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>>53577197
>>53577167
>>53577112
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Poles and Ukrainians are Russians in denial desu.
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>>53577185
>So you men you build liek austrians?
No, we build like Latin civilization.
>>53577212
Oh yeah, thanks for the part where are all the ukie nazis.
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>>53577239
Yeah, nation as old as Poles, that is older than Russian in both language and culture is Russians in denial.

Good job on the deduction, detective fatso.
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We are all in favor?
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>>53576110
*Lemberg
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>>53577212

Zhirinovsky? He also said we should be nuked or something :DDD
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>>53577242
>No, we build like Latin civilization.
Ok, why does architecture in Krakow looks more like in Lwow and Novi Sad than in Warshaw?
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>>53577298
Poorberg*
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>>53576038
Why would we want it back?
We dont need underdeveloped gypsy village tier provinces full of angry inhabitants
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>>53577293
These are not our old borders.
It's a shit map
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>>53577298

*Fisabilillah-berg

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=323_1429066834
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>>53577320
Because Krakow is older.

Warsaw became a capital much later, so the style changed.
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>>53577281
t. Russian
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>>53576073
>This is that same story like with finnish clay in russia.

No, it really isn't.

Russia vs. Finland

Russia:

-145m citizens
-1,3 trillion dollar GDP
-~700k soldiers standing army, literally tens of millions in reserve
-80 billion dollar military budget
-biggest nuclear weapons arsenal
-possibility to go full on zerg mode at any moment

Funland:
-5,5 million citizens
-230 billion dollars GDP
-30k in standing army, 230k in active reserve, 500k in secondary reserve
-3 billion usd military budget
-not a nuclear state
-not in NATO
-not stronk

Russia wins.

If you do the same with Poland and Ukraine, you will notice that (for once) Poland actually wouldn't probably be the one beaten to pulp in a conflict. At least not by Ukrainians.
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>>53577293
My proposal.
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>>53577374
What the fuck are you even trying to say?

Poland and Polish is older than Russia and Russian.

Kievan Rus and Ruthenian /=/ Russia
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>>53577293
nah fuck the gypsies

The only historically correct version
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>>53577242
>Oh yeah, thanks for the part where are all the ukie nazis.
You already have thousands of them working in Poland.
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>>53577409
>A border with Hungary
finally 10/10
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>>53577469
mmuh Hungary XDDDDD
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>>53577392
b-but Simo Haya
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>>53577409
>giving Odessa and part of the Carpathians to Romania
>giving the Rusyns to Hungary

Disgusting.
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Why are people obsessed with lands? They barely mean anything in modern world. Don't repeat Putin's mistakes. Poles have all land they need.
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>>53577293
I see purple-nosed chicken.
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>>53577531
Romania is our important NATO ally.
Hungary is our greatest ally.
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>>53577409
Romania should get Maldova and Transnistria too, but Hungary should get a strip of Transylvania
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>>53577531
Yup these pollacks have no idea what they're talking about
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>>53577462
Those provinces were polish too
I cant into paint im sorry
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>>53577605
That's ok in my mind
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>>53577534
Country with a population density of 0.000001 person/km^2 chastising the rest of us about land needs
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>>53576551
>Soumy
>Suomi
U cryin' confirmed for rightful Finnish clay
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>>53576038
I can't imagine anyone wanting lwow at this point.
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>>53577700
>U cryin
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>Poles want this
>>53577666
And look how awesome if life here, thanks to out millions of sq.km.
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>>53576038
Because it's full of nazi scums and ethnic cleanings aren't that popular nowadays.
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>>53577813
>>53577328
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>>53577840
protip USA and Israel
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>>53577813
Anything that was built post-1939 would be razed to the ground.
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>>53577813
My god what has ukraine done to this glorious city.
Who thought that creating Ukraine was a good idea?
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>>53576038
We have breslau and Danzing, let these poor Khokhols have some clay too. It might become their capital in future when Kiev gets liberated by Russia.
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>>53577902
>implying Ukraine did that

I'll take "what was the Soviet Union" for 200 rubles, Alexei.
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>>53577975
>breslau
>danzig
XDDDD
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>>53577992
Well certainly Ukraine did not improve the city after communism.
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>>53577886
And you ofc have some billions of dollars to rebuild the whole region.
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>>53577902
>Who thought that creating Ukraine was a good idea?
Germans during WW1
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>>53576038
Why would we want that shithole?
We'd give Belarus Olsztyn, Białystok and Biała Podlaska but they don't want them.
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>>53578079
Yeah, we will pay for it with reparations from you.
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>>53577975
>Using german names for polish cities
Wrocław
Gdańsk
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>>53577992
>what was the Soviet Union
union of republics
Ukraine used to be the most developed and richest of them BTW
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>>53578106
Us? How are WE even related to this? Polish land once was part of Austria was joined to Ukraine by some georgian maniac with his team of jewish commisars and we should pay reparations.
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>>53577902
>>53577813
Looks kind of charming to me
Definitely not as nice as Budapest or Krackov, but not exactly Russia-tier either
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How butiful
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>>53578155
Reparations for occupation 1791 - 1918 & 1939 - 1989
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> poland
> hungary
> romania
> dividing of ukraine

Is romanian T-55 climb Beskit pass at least?
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>>53578165
>Krackov
oi use proper name or fuck off
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>>53578216
Can you even defend yourself?
We won't even need tanks.
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>>53578270
Ukrainians are armed by America.

They would fuck us up.
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>>53578165
What's wrong with "Russia-tier"?
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>>53578066
I wish most post-Soviet states could tear down those commieblocks and build an actual fucking city rather than those tenements. Jesus Christ, it's horrifying, but the cost of rebuilding is too high.

>>53578126
Russia was the richest (Siberia produced industrial diamonds and gold, so it wasn't hard), but Ukraine was second best. Still, most money went to the elites anyway. Lovely, lovely tenement housing for everyone else.
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>>53578312
they would be attacked from multiple fronts.
Even germany fucked that up.
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>>53578312
> Ukrainians are armed by America

By few humwee? Soviet Union,let's be honest.
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>>53578215
Well, we are waiting for reparations for 1612 then.
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>>53578318
Everything
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>>53578453
Liiikeee....
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>>53578318
Ask Varlamov.
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>>53578215
>>53578447
>Implying that anyone would get any reparations
It's too late for both of us
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>>53578264
I would use it if Polish didn't have such illogical orthography
>using ł for /w/
>using w for /v/
>using 3 different variants of z
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>>53578447
Ok, but those would be like 1 trillion $ compared to 10 000 trillion $ you would have to pay us.
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>>53578444
Well, Dyadko, you are not even part of Ukraine de facto and you are armed by Kadyrov at best.
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>>53578318
Post real life, not Putin's dacha
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>>53578499
nice cherrypicking

>>53578505
Use the official English name then.
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>>53578505
It's Kraków
not that hard to write, if you cant write ó then just do Krakow
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>>53578519
Ask Gerogia for your gazillions of reparations for your own weakness and misery. It was their guy.
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>>53578582
>>53578565
I will spell it the way it is pronounced
I will not capitulate to mere slavs
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>>53578342
>Russia was the richest
you are wrong comrade
Baltics>Ukraine>Belarus>???>RSFSR
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>>53578543
It's was easy. How about real occupation without pro-russians? At least my friend in Ukrainian part of Lugansk oblast?
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good thread
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>>53578607
Soviet Union was a successor of Russian Soviet Republic.
Russian Federation is a successor of Soviet Union.
Pay reparations.

>>53578621
Like you capitulated to Brits with your own language? :^)
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>>53578553
But that's soviet, not Russia. It's like saying this Stalin's tower in the center of Warsaw is polish tier architecture.
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>>53578621
You might as well call it Krakau then, better thatgerman name than this abomination you wrote
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>>53578692

Stalinist architecture is quite nice desu
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>>53578656
>posting from LNR with Ukie flag
You should use this
https://github.com/flaghunters/Extra-Flags-for-4chan
for proper LNR flag m8
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>>53578656
>Implying anyone needs to occupy your irrelevant piece of land and feed you bastards
Fuck off.
>>53578682
Successor =/= a person himself.
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>>53578692
It was 100% made by Soviet Union as a 'gift' to Poland. They even imported workers from siberia or whatever.

>>53578759
Yeah but you still have to pay debts.
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>>53578607
Then why doesn't Russia ask for ww2 reparations from Austria?
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>>53578647
Are you talking about richest as in the average wages? Because the RSFSR definitely beat most others out in terms of total wealth (especially counting the nomenklatura).

>>53578728
Stalinist architecture (beyond government buildings) is like an autistic kid discovering Lego knock-offs for the first time and building an entirely gray and brown city of square buildings.
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>>53578728
Everything we had before Khrushchov (proud hohol btw) was nice.
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>>53578692
Does Russia exist in an alternate dimension where the nuclear war actually happened?
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>>53578700
KRAKOV!
gib back ;_;
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>>53578732
Bit zrada for you,i don't give shit about LPR.

>>53578759
It's means i was right.
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>>53578874
reminds me of germany
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Die subhuman scum
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>>53578811
>an entirely gray and brown city of square buildings.

that was later
Stalinist architecture is the essence of socialist realism i.e. monumental neo-classicism
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>>53578921
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>>53578805
Because we are not Poles. We didn't even get reparations from France.
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>>53578941
Yeah, for government buildings. Everyone else lived in a gray brick. Fuck, some still do.

When I lived in Russia, I stayed with a friend for awhile who lived in a commieblock over half a kilometer long. The locals called it "the Chinese Wall." Those things are inescapable.
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>>53578874
What happened was one of the worst recessions and subsequent plunderings of a nation in modern history.
I'm fucking amazed Russia still exists at all.
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>>53579018
We didn't get any either.

And Germany owes us 745 bilion dollars for WW2.
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>>53579018
>Russia complaining about reparations
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>>53578874
>Abondoned factories represent a country
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>>53579036
>When I lived in Russia, I stayed with a friend for awhile who lived in a commieblock over half a kilometer long. The locals called it "the Chinese Wall."

We have something like that here :D
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>>53578732
How do you change your flag?
Mine autoset wrong
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>>53579138
burn it to the ground 2bh
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>>53579138
We also have a chinese wall in every other city
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>>53578811
i'm talking about an actual development
yeah, we had all kinds of valuable resources in Siberia, yet we were the ones who got less profit from it
and what is the point of having a good wage when there is no goods to spend it on
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>>53579149
http://flaghunters.github.io/Extra-Flags-for-4chan/
Below installation guide there's an instruction on how to change region manually.
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>>53576038
>Do Poles have no balls or pride?
Their shithole was divided between cool countries so many times dude. I guess they just don't give a fuck
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>>53576976
Lviv (and the former Polish part of Ukraine as a whole) really isn't an exception to the pattern of 'nice looking old town center - commieblocks everywhere else" pattern that other older Ukrainian cities have.

See also Odessa, Kiev, Kherson, Sevastopol etc. Most definitely weren't built by Poles.
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>>53579318
>Russia
>Cool country
Ebin
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>>53576694
This picture must be in the middle called "German L'viv"
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pols are evil sick people who spread their sickn lies to the west and east. slavs are not that bad as you and your homunculus ukrainefag. ugona eat all shit bak soon
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>>53579352
(you)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Lviv
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>>53579318
>their shithole
>says country officiallu poorer than fucking Gabon

kek, Ramzan Mongolovich
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>>53576038
Because Stalin was a revengeful bastard?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiekjno91WA
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>>53579382
You think too much about yourself, Poland.
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>>53579138
JESUS CHRIST HOW HORRIFYING

I thought my friend's commieblock was bad, holy shit.
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>>53579521
You were always a shithole.
Since Dutchy of Moscow times. Always a fucking poor shithole with people starving. You always had a "secret" police to hunt down the oposition.
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sick evil whore who cant stop hating Russia, but Russia is the only reason you can get your world attention, yeah bitch just like ukraine, same boat for haters, love all
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>>53579505
>says country officiallu poorer than fucking Gabon
kek
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>>53579138
That's actually a cleverly disguised wall the Polish government built against possible Russo-Mongolian invasion.
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>Poland of all countries talking shit about Russia

wew
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>>53579586
I understand when i hear this from french or german, but Poland? Srsly?
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>>53579620
Russia was so shit that they had to steal libraries from Poland. TWICE.

Because they didn't have their own.

Just a cool historical fact.
>>53579625
We were always better than you. AT EVERYTHING.
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>>53579600
>>53579505
You GDP is barely higher t bh.
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>>53579138
That's fucking awful. Who would want to live in one of these hives?
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>>53579625
That's actually true
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>>53577320
>Ok, why does architecture in Krakow looks more like in Lwow and Novi Sad than in Warshaw?
Have you seen prewar Warsaw?
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>>53579656
Your country is the fucking size of the whole Europe, has more resources bigger population than Poland and you're trying to compare it?

Hahahaahaha, you're poorer than fucking Italy. That's patethic.
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>>53579620
Yes, what's wrong with that?
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>>53579517
how do you guys tranport poles in there?
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>>53579650
>We were always better than you. AT EVERYTHING.
Like space explorations or nuclear technologies or what?

>Russia was so shit that they had to steal libraries from Poland. TWICE.
Germans were stealing our libraries and arts during WWII too actually. That doesn't mean they are shittier than us.
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>>53579483
I meant Poles didn't build all of Ukraine's cities. I didn't mean Poles weren't responsible for Lviv.

Point being, Lviv isn't really exceptional within Ukraine as far as "nice architecture - shitty commieblocks" contrast goes.
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>>53579698

fucking German scum
I'm glad everytime muslims fuck their shit up
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>>53579698
literally Paris
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>>53579698
>tfw we could have a non-shitty capital city if not for the war.
This hurts me man
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>>53579698

>tfw it's commieblock central now

>>53579713

you're marginally better than them
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>>53579742
>Like space explorations or nuclear technologies or what?
Things you needed to compensate for a small mongol dick.


>Germans were stealing our libraries and arts during WWII too actually. That doesn't mean they are shittier than us.
They were stealing libraries which you stole from us. XD
>>53579743
I never claimed we build all cities in Ukraine. Ever heard of Kievan Rus? We just took care of them better than any Russian mongols could ever do.
>>53579755
It was called the Paris of central Europe.
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>>53578155
>georgian maniac with his team of jewish commisars

I loled.
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>>53579600
>says country with flag of Ivory Coast
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>>53579710
Yes, we have few millions of frozen not habitant millions of sq. kms and barely populated areas with severe climate and bad soil. Yeah, pathethic as fuck. On the other hand country in the middle of Europe with sane density of population, fertile lands and one of the richest countries in the world as neighbours.
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>>53579851
Too bad we were tained by Russian filth during WW2 and after that.

50 years was enough to ruin us completely.
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>>53579823
It's infamous pole.
>>53579802
>Things you needed to compensate for a small mongol dick.
I see poles have the biggest dicks in the world if we look at your "compensative list"
>They were stealing libraries which you stole from us. XD
X-----DDDD
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>>53579710
Calm down, Jan. This is getting embarrassing.
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>>53579397
Lwów came out from the war mostly unscathed, just like Kraków and Toruń. This is why it hurts so much to have lost one of only two major Polish cities that were almost undamaged. Other major Polish cities were destroyed in 50/90%
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>>53579802
>They were stealing libraries which you stole from us. XD
holy shit
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>>53579896
Why you were so weak, huh?
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>>53579918
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Library_of_Russia
>The cornerstone of the foreign-language department came from the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth in the form of Załuski's Library (420,000 volumes), nationalized by the Russian government at the time of the partitions.[3] The Polish-language books from the library (numbering some 55,000 titles) were returned to Poland by the Russian SFSR in 1921.[4]
YOU SITLL FUCKING DENY IT
>>53579938
Not as much as your country getting raped by ahmeds.
>>53579949
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>>53579959
>Why you were so weak, huh?
Because you never have the guts to fight us alone.
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>>53579798
we dindu nuffin
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>>53580006
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Za%C5%82uski_Library
> Russian troops, acting on orders from Czarina Catherine II, seized the library's holdings and transported them to her personal collection at Saint Petersburg, where a year later it formed the cornerstone of the newly founded Imperial Public Library
Russians even stole the fucking books. XD
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>>53576038

You mean Lemberg and under Austrian Control don't you?
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>>53579036
Stalinist architecture was bombastic nonsense but it was still impressive and an actual attempt at putting down something halfway aesthetically pleasing. Problem is, it caused a long-term housing crisis.

Kruschev started putting down shitty commieblocks in a largely successful attempt to deal with said housing crisis.
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>>53579727
Lwów is about 750 years old, and was within a Polish state for almost 500 years, and had a major (majority in the middle ages) Polish population for about 600 years.
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>>53580006
>>53580103
> Russian troops, acting on orders from Czarina Catherine II, seized the library's holdings and transported them to her personal collection at Saint Petersburg, where a year later it formed the cornerstone of the newly founded Imperial Public Library
god damn it Russia, this is new low for me.
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>>53580178
and they did it FUCKING TWICE

It's hillarious. They didn't even have any schools in Russia before partitions. A poor fucking shithole. When Russian troops enetered Poland they were amazed at quality of life.
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>>53580103
>Gathering grand library together for an Imperial prestige project
>le dumb russians even stole le books xDDDDDD le epic Polish power
>Poles still haven't been genocided yet
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>>53577185
>>53577242

All Poland good cities were built by Prussians or Austrians.
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>>53580130
of course it was,when polish elites blocked entering for ukrainians.
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>>53580245
How's the life in Netherlands, Ivan?
>>53580252
Got any proofs?
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>>53580235
fuck, make your own shit Russian m8s
>>53580245
calm down
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>>53580043
>Kiev Rus is not Russia
>But when we defeated it it counts as Russia

>Every war that actually were with Russia and were deciding countrie's destiny except one are russian victory
And thanks to germans i guess, they are nice folks.
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>>53580262
>ukrainians.
no such thing

only cossacks and they were animals
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>>53580324
You later claimed Kievan Rus as yours, so may as well count it in.
>>53580324
They were nice when they started genociding the Russians. Truly godsend.
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>>53580178
So that was a trophy. You were defeated and humiliated. What's wrong?
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>thread turned into a butthurt fest
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>>53580370
So we can at least agree that germans are nice folks. That's a progress already.

So you are finally admitting we are successors of Kievan Rus?
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>>53579755
>Paris of the North(en Europe)...
;_;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skTQPPkx-LM
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>>53580420
It's not my fault Russian education is shit and they never teach them about how shit they were.
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>>53580262
This is literally retarded. Ruthenians/Orthodox were never expelled from Lwów.
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>>53580451
>So you are finally admitting we are successors of Kievan Rus?
By slaughter of the original Kievan Rus. Yes.
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>>53580451
whoa whoa whoa there.
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>>53580455
It's kinda embarassing for poles to be partiotioned and ruled by shit.
I mean look: >>53579698 Everything is written in polish and russian. In Poland's capital.
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>>53580451
>we are successors of Kievan Rus

successors to the Golden Horde

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weiaSbW4E2w
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>>53580330
> implying
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>>53580499
Then why do you count your victory on Kiev as victory on us?
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>>53580291

This list should get you started:

http://polandpoland.com/names_german_polish.html
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>>53580531
>It's kinda embarassing for poles to be partiotioned and ruled by shit.
Ah yes. The famous partitions.

Ruined from the inside by a German king. Partitioned by Germans and Russia got the scraps.
>>53580591
All were founded by the Poles.
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>>53580581
>mfw that was my post
>mfw Russians are subhumans
>mfw Poland is glorious and will grow stronger
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>>53580531
It was taking during the partitions (1795-1918). :/
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>>53579397
Got you friend
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>>53580643
> Los'

RARE
A
R
E
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>>53580638
You mean the biggest part of your country, right?
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>>53580806
>You mean the biggest part of your country, right?
Yes, with only three cities worth metioning.
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>>53580754
I just used your pic to show signs in russian.
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>>53580843
So we still got three polish cities worth of mentioning including the capital and poles had nothing in reword, right?
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>>53580674
of course it does
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>>53580774
This doesn't make any fucking sense. First off, that's not Lwów, secondly, it wasn't even destroyed.
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>>53580953
>eu
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>>53580953
>grease
>spain
kek
also look at per captia stats
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Dyadko Yar is Stepan Bandera's grandson
infa 100%
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>>53580638
You mean partitioned by Germanians (one German king, one Austrian king, and one German horse dick loving-bitch-queen ruling in Russia).
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>>53581177
He is from Lugansk. So de facto he isn't even from Ukraine.
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>>53581177
My great-grandfather fought in ww2
>>53581220
Poltava heritage
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>>53579752
You just can't not love them, rite?
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BO IH BATKO TO LIS A IH MATY TO NICH
UKRAINA USIA TO IH HATA
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>>53579792
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>>53581279
>My great-grandfather fought in ww2
on which side?
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>tfw no cute ukrainian gf from Luhansk
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>>53581373
Red Army.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iTA4kVE4vo
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Regarding Ukraine.
Are Givi and Motoral even still alive? I remember Motorola said he will personally come to Poland and destroy us xD
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>>53581510
They are.
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>>53581461
You like Percival?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-LGIT7SdhE
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>>53581583
I do.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExUwUyUK9OM
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>>53581510
Ukrainian officers think they're both fictional (media) personalities.
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>>53581617
I dig it
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYJPSgCYicE
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>>53581617

I really like the kołowrót symbol
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Lviv is Ukrainian city and I'm okay with that.

It won't really matter which city belong to Poland and which to Ukraine when Commonwealth is rebuilt.
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>>53581773
>Commonwealth
cuckold faggot nigger from outter space
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>>53581800
Only cuck is the one who don't want to restore Poland to its former glory.
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>>53581731
>Play Wild cunt
>get DLC
>out of nowhere fucking Cossacks and Turks
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>>53581847
The Crown was glory, even without Lithuania.

It was Casimir that build economical strength not Jagiellon.
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>>53581847
glory =/= economical prosperity. You better calm down and do everything germans and americans whant you to do for next at least 20 years.
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>>53581905
>Cossacks
This guy is based Andrzej Kmicic you Slow Vak
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>>53581905
fite me irl
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>>53581905

Witcher is basically - fantasy Eastern Europe the game. You get Polacks, Hohols, Turks, multicultural Germans etc.
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>>53581617
My man.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GT1dZPv99yA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIkx1bwtETI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3c4H_8TM2Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJe_FZbB2So
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJe_FZbB2So
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fss8oTimjoQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaAMy-ZD5DE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPVAU0-XJbU
These are my favourite.
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>>53581982
He's got a Saber, a Hohol and his men call him Ataman.
You don't get more Cossack than that.
how did I upset you?
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>>53582003
>Faggot elf
I bet he wears tights.
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>>53581924
This. The Kingdom of Poland was a successful sate on its own. But Lwów was an important part of it already in the middle ages.
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>>53581924
>The Crown was glory, even without Lithuania
OK I'm out, you are clearly a medical case

>>53581939
>Implying that economical prosperity and glory exclude eachother
We should work hard to form a willing alliance of all former Commonwealth states, including Baltics, Belarus and Ukraine. Military and political union, no economical, no EU 2.0.
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>>53581905
>>out of nowhere fucking Cossacks and Turks
You mean Poles/Ruthenians of the Commonwealth?
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>>53582159
I don't think they make tights of that size. He's a fucking steroid tank.
>>53582149
He's like a mix of Polish Szlachta and Cossacks. Don't know why that Pole chimped out.
>>53582179
WHY DID THIS FUCKING DIED WITHOUT AN HEIR
>>53582185
You want some ointment?
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>>53582149
Because as I said, he is based on this character
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrzej_Kmicic
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>>53582289
+ literally this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Twardowski
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>>53582179
Poland would never become an European power without territories and human resources of Lithuania. Even children in primary school can comprehend that.
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>>53582034
> Hohols

actually who?
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>>53582382
Silesia and Pomorze were still at the hands reach.
Jagiellons fucked that up because they were pussies.

You think Jagiellon defeated the Teutons? No it was because Casimir build Poland before it. If he didn't die or left Piast heir, they would beat Teutons anyway.
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>>53582034
>Polish 14 yo Nationalist projecting
Witcherverse is based on Western European culture mostly. Sapkowski doesn't give fuck about your Boland Stronk meme.

And Redania is NOT Poland because it happens to have a white eagle as a COA.
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The shitflinging in this thread shows perfectely why Lemberg should be under austrian control again
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>>53582478
To add more.
It was more in Lithuania's business to become Polish ally and as close as they can. Without that they would be obliterated by Muscovy + Lithuania was mostly inhabited by orthodox Ruthenians. Lithuanians were a minority in their own country.

>>53582581
They should starve and eat each other again?
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>>53582478
>Silesia and Pomorze were still at the hands reach
And what does it have in common with anything?

>>53582478
>No it was because Casimir build Poland before it
Then explain why Polish golden age happened in XVIth century, during regime of Jagiellonians, not Piasts, you imbecile.
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>>53582563
>Witcherverse is based on Western European culture mostly. Sapkowski doesn't give fuck about your Boland Stronk meme.
>And Redania is NOT Poland because it happens to have a white eagle as a COA.
Got any evidence to back up your claims, my leftist friend?
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>>53582613
slavs need to be ruled desu, it can't be helped
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>>53582581

Habsburg scum, get out from here's
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>>53582645
>Then explain why Polish golden age happened in XVIth century, during regime of Jagiellonians, not Piasts, you imbecile.
Because we had more land in which we could spread our culture?
>>53582666
Austrians are more slavic than Poles.
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Is it true Ukrainians are muh heritage about vikings? Can I get a Ukrainian gf because of this?
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Someone should made a video like this about eastern europe tbн
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEvZUL1d-Zk
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>>53582645
>>53582709
Also.

Jagiellons just picked up after Casimir, they didnt actually do much. :^)
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>>53582661
Burden of proofs is within you, kiddo.

But consider this: Witcher universe and ours exist simultaneously in the multiversum, as Ciri visits it a few times. So all these parallels can only be used to show similarities, but never to claim "country X is Y in the world of Witcher".
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I fucking love poles with all passion of my heart. Those guys would capture the entire world, if they had a slightest chance.
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>>53582805
Did you even played it? You can clearly see Polish culture everywhere.

Unless you're an uncultured swine that is.
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>>53582797

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Uzu58N-Sso
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>>53582709
And the reason why we had more lands is because...

>>53582798
Now you're not even trying
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>>53582819
Their "shlyahta" no matter what form it will have now will fail everything again lel. Their pride doesn't let them to be adequate persons.
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>>53582819

b-baka
don't say thing's like that
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>>53582737
>>53582046
>>53580130
>>53579517

cheeky pole
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>>53582888
>And the reason why we had more lands is because...
We subjugated Ruthenian lands. :^)


>Now you're not even trying
Trying what? Jagiellons did nothing of value.
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>>53582149
>He's got a Saber
Yes, a szabla, the melee weapon of choice in the Commonwealth with a proud history and rich techniques.
The Japs have their katanas, we have our szablas (in Eastern Europe).
Polish cross cutting art:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRgKzmOK0T4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNK3EkLVg-A
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>>53582944
>he doesn't know polish swede
Dyad'ko, i thought you weren't new here.
Where is Luganochka btw? I miss her D:
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>>53582864
>You can clearly see Polish culture everywhere
Like where?
In Novigrad? Typical western european port city, and the architecture was really more German than Polish

Skellige?

White Orchand? Yeah, some flower paintings on the walls, frequent around European peasants.

So tell me, where have you spotted these patriotic Polish vibes?
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>>53582984
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tFXZn9qNhg
>>53583047
Still butthurt after the elections, Kopacz?
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>>53583032

She looks so scared. Did Putin molest her?
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>>53576038
I don't give a shit desu
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>>53583105
>Escaping to ad personam
Yeah, I thought so.

Now go back to wykop.
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>>53583047
>this butthurt nigga

mentioning/portraying a country somewhere =/= patriotism
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>>53583172
Now go back to karaczan, spierdoleksie. :^)
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>>53583144
That's not how scared person looks.
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>>53583032
dunno,study probably
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>>53583047
>Like where?
Are you retarded?
>In Novigrad?
Novigrad is based off Gdańsk and Duch port cities (as most Commonwealth ports were).
>Skellige?
Is Scandinavia/Vikings

White Orchad is basically Poland. Redania is Poland for fucks sake.
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>>53582878
This is about east slav average life. I mean land thiefs race
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>>53583209
But there is no potrayal of Poland in the Witcher. It happens in the fictional universe.

If you can spot any similarities, tell me where they appear.
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>>53583435
lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYzwpF6MNQU
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>>53583435
>>53583279
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>>53583494
Without Polish this isn't even worth playing.
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>>53583494

every fucking time top kek
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>>53583435
there is a fuckload of slavic iconography in those games, including totems, portrayal of traditional folklore, the fucking runes are named after slavic gods,
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>>53583730
shhh, don't tell him.
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>>53582149
That's basically Pan Twardowski. Also, in Polish it's Hetman (the real Atamans). Atamans mostly self-given rebel Cossack titles with no real power over the Commonwealth armies, except the rebel ones on the Dniepr river of course.
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>>53583279
Yeah, as you admitted yourself, this architectonical style was common all around all Europe. Besides, Gdańsk had a status a free city, and while lying within Polish borders, it was culturally German for most of time. It even waged war against the Crown once.

>White Orchad is basically Poland
Again, this architectonical style was not exclusive for Poland. Typical middle-aged village. Or Slavic, if you really want.

>Redania is Poland
Because of white eagle?

Poland never owned a vassal state in the north that later became economically more powerful than it. Poland never had a king called Vizimir or Radovid. Poland never burned witches on stakes. There are literally no parallels.

Comprehend it finally you autists: Witcher happens in fictional world. Fiction=/= reality.
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>>53583730
So?
Paganic Slavic =/= Polish.
There was no Poland in pre-Christian era.
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>>53583866
>it was culturally German for most of time
>culturally german
You dumb shit. It was founded by Poles and most of shit inside was build by Poles.

Literally dumb shit the dumb.

It's fucking infulenced by Poland and other slavs and you can do whatever you want to deny it. Just fuck off.
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>>53583941
>There was no Poland in pre-Christian era.
Except there was. :^)
Poland oficially was founded in 800ad.

Poles rebelled against catholicism in 1038.
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>>53583941
>Paganic Slavic =/= Polish
I'm fucking done here
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>>53584044
He's a leftist retard or a spierdolina faggot from karachan.org.
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>>53583520
He's a troll or something.
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>>53583969
Your butthurt won't change the fact that after Teutonic conquest, it remained culturally German. Just like royal Prussia.

https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wojna_Rzeczypospolitej_z_Gda%C5%84skiem
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>>53584092
>it remained culturally German
Does this mean that Germans build the shit there?
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>>53583866
>Gdańsk had a status a free city
Only in short periods.
> it was culturally German for most of time
Germans and Dutchmen have contributed to this ancient Polish city, of course, but stop being this ignorant.
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>>53584027
>Poland oficially was founded in 800ad.
Thank God, you were baiting the entire time

>>53584044
Well, Poland was founded in 966. The totems and gods you mention were worshipped by various tribes, like Vistulans, Silesians, etc. So yeah, I could agree that there were various Slavic vibes in the game. But nothing directly Polish.
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>>53584253
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civitas_Schinesghe

kill yourself
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>>53584135
>>53584199
It was a Polish city, but inhabited mostly by Germans. Is it now easier for you to understand?

>>53584085
Yeah, and Temeria is clearly Fance then, because they share similar COA.

And Novigrad must be a Russian city, because it's name originate from Russian!

>Middleschooler patriot logic
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>>53583866
>Poland never owned a vassal state in the north that later became economically more powerful than it. Poland never had a king called Vizimir or Radovid. Poland never burned witches on stakes. There are literally no parallels.
You're serisouly shitposting, rite? You can't possible be this dumb.
And it actually did, it was called Ducal (Polish) Prussia.
>Witcher happens in fictional world. Fiction=/= reality.
Comprehend you low IQ being that most works are based of other works and/or inspired by reality. Same thing with the LotR saga.
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>>53584303
>Civitas Schinesghe
>800ad
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>>53584439
Shitposteru go homu
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>>53584394
>Kovir is Prussia
That's even more retarded than claiming that Redania is Poland

Kovir based its power on two things: sea trade and natural resources. Its power was remaining neutral in every conflict. So if anything, Venice/Switzerland would be much better parallel.

Prussia wasn't a power in neither of these two, and what actually allowed it to gain power status was its military - unlike in case of Kovir.
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>>53584374
>It was a Polish city, but inhabited mostly by Germans.
The "mostly" part happened after the partitions, during the harsh Germanisation of ex-Polish lands of Pomerania and Royal Prussia in the 19th century. Same shit happened in Toruń, Poles went there from a majority to a minority very quickly. And Poles went from a second largest population (major minority) to a small minority). Many Poles were Germanised by force and saw themselves as Germans in the 20th century.
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>>53584633
Yep, you'r baiting. Also, did you know that "based on" and "inspired by" doesn't necessarily mean COPY PASTING.
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>>53584694
One thing you seem to forget: Teutonic Order owned the city for most of late middle ages - the time where Witcher timeline is supposed to be based on. German settlers started inhabiting the city in that period already.

>>53584786
Give me one thing that makes Prussia similar to Kovir then.
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>>53584981
>Teutonic Order owned the city for most of late middle ages
But Poland owned it for most of the middle ages.
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>>53584981
Got caught in your own BS?
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