/islam/ general

>>53557244
I've read the first two Surahs, very good, better poetry than the bible.

>>53557302
Alhamdulilaah. You mean Al-Fatihah and Al-Baqrah?

>tfw forgotten all the surahs i had memorised

threadly reminder that jesus is god and warned of muhammads coming

>>53557329
>In the name of God etc
And
>The Cow

Started reading it because I had to do homework about it but I want to finish it

>>53557332
>jesus is god
this is what """christians""" actually believe.

>>53557332
If he was god why did he die? Why didn't he leave 1st hand account and scripture after him?

>>53557446
because it wasnt necessary dumbass

>>53557332
daily reminder western cant into any culture or religion

>>53557513
yeah great day in Jakarta you mudslime

>>53557477
Wut?! That's ebin levels of may may but its still a may may

>>53557559
Much better than in Germany, shitlord. This is Islam general thread not pol, gtfo pls

>>53557477
Looking at the mess that the Christian world is, I would say it was very necessary for that commie jew to do that.

>>53557634
fuck off Mehmet, This isnt saudi arabia I can talk when I want. No Islam on the internet Kufar.

>>53557659
Nobody is prohibiting you to talk retard,you're not invited here, nor in Saudi Arabia, have some god damn dignity, pathetic piece of spew.

>>53557659
>muh freedom the post

>>53557513
they did have a culture and they killed it in the name of "science" and "reason."

I'm having an existential crisis

I want to be a Shia Muslim

>>53557362
The Cow is weird. For some reason it was decided one of the longest surah's full of rules would be right in the beginning. Hop to the back of the book for more poetic shorter surah's, don't worry it's non-linear anyways.

>>53557634
General's are not hugboxes and safe spaces for whatever you arbitrarily decide to put in the OP, people are allowed to say what they want on this site so long as it's on topic and not blatant shitposting.

>>53557833
Be Sufi.

>>53557833
Why would a wanna be Persian Tranny for goodness sakes

Does Islam not have missionaries like Christians do?

>>53557244
Any maps of the same style for the other religions?

>>53557861
no, because they land on everywhere with weapons

>>53557855
Yes, it is a bit monolithic in mood but I liked the repetition of certain sentences "God is Omnipotent", "God knows what you are doing", "God is indulgent" "Maybe you'll be able to comprehend". Pretty rad

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>>53557244
Salam alaikum

>>53557855
Isn't Sufi a secret club or some shit

>>53557857
I think Shia Islam is the correct path

>>53557861
They do. That's what Daawah is.

Who /devband/ here?

>>53557972
>I think Shia Islam is the correct path
If Christianity stopped at worshiping single 'divine' individual, Shias worship 12.

Do yourself a favor and get over religions and stop believing in some fairly tales some middle easterns wrote in the desert.

>>53558097
>stop believing in some fairly tales some middle easterns wrote in the desert
This. I'm into religion because of sheer curiosity. But I don't really believe in any.

Also
>Implying the God of people from the desert is fit for us

>>53558053
Obviously nobody. A couple of years ago they issued a fatwa stating that cartoons are haram.

>>53558097
>get over religions and stop believing in some fairly tales some middle easterns wrote in the desert
Actually reddit tier.

>>53557302
the poetry of it makes it easier to memorize since it is supposed to be orally recited

the Greek bible is better in terms of its presentation, as is the King James version.

>>53558097
I think God wouldn't leave us without some sort of spiritual guidance so it makes sense

Is there a DNA test I can do to find which sect and version of Islam I am from?

>>53557446
his human form died, his divine soul endured
he left his scripture in his deeds, the apostles were chosen to continue his legacy and spread it to the world

and beyond that there is more legitimacy backing the new testament's legitimacy and accuracy than there is the life and words of Muhammad or the Quran itself.

besides Islam is just a heretical branch of Christianity, grown out of Syriac and Arian traditions, that developed into its own unique tradition over centuries.
its fine to believe and the message is more or less similar, but ultimately its claim of primacy is illegitimate.

>>53558272
yea
r u brown?
then ur a sunni

r u brown and also stuck up with a great beard?
ur a shia

>>53557404
>muslims ACTUALLY believe christians are polytheists

HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>53558368
proddies believe that too, being as they are just German Muslims

>>53558306
>and beyond that there is more legitimacy backing the new testament's legitimacy and accuracy than there is the life and words of Muhammad or the Quran itself.
Just stop. You're embarassing yourself.

>>53558306
The bible says the earth is 6000 years old and flat.

>>53558368
>A FUCKING LEAF

>>53558402
the textual evidence4 of the New Testament and its accuracy is incredibly strong, not to mention the earliest accounts come far sooner than the actual writing of the Quran came following Muhammad's death.

beyond this there are fare more sources to check and support the writing in the NT than in the Quran where the number of early sources is extremely limited.

>>53558432
>The bible says the earth is 6000 years old
no
some old brits said that by trying to interprete the various dates and numbers within Genesis

and it does not say anything regarding the shape of the earth

beyond that none of this has any bearing on the New Testament.

>>53558402
Hadith and Sunnah is one of the largest non verifiable clusterfucks in human history. To think of all methods a god would choose to clarify all differences and send a final clear message, he chose a 200 year old game of Chinese Whispers, with credibility based on individual reputation. Laughing my fucking ass off familia.

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>>53558185
>cartoons are haram
YOU JUST CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP

POO

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>>53558473
related

>>53558507
Simple math of the bibles writings say the earth is 6000 years old. Don't deny it.

DESIGNATED

>>53558473
The earliest NT books were written decades after Isa ibn Maryam died.
http://www.birmingham.ac.uk/news/latest/2015/07/quran-manuscript-22-07-15.aspx

We got bombed today lads, being muslims doesn't help

>>53558586
>Don't deny it.
I'm not a proddy so I can deny it all I like as no self respecting Christian believes that.

Religion isn't real you faggots. Islam encourages street shitting.

A FUCKING WAGON WHEEL

>>53558402
>n-nuh-uh!!
jesus (god) forgives you, there is no need to be upset anymore

>>53558624
How? If you add the fucking dates up in the bible it is 6000 years old you stupid cuck.

>>53558611
>written decades
vs centuries for the Quran

decades is really nothing considering other works from around the same time period, definitely within a human lifetime.

>>53558575
Nigger, the earliest Homeric manuscfipts we have were written a millennium after he lived. It's worse with your horribke interpretation of Judaic texts, i.e. New Testament.

This is an islam thread. You can spew nonsense about your almost dead, mockery of a faith somewhere else.

>>53558432
>Believe in epic Fedora maymay.
>>53558586
Tell us the math.

>>53558615
why did they do that? did you piss off ISIS

>>53558685
>btfo by evidence
>get out of my safe space!!!

>>53557244
walaikum assalam akhi

bros and sis' post your favorite quran recitations in here inshallah

This is the goatest of goats imotbh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-H8k53HgqE

>>53558685
Islam is in far worse trouble than Christianity is m8
its in its death throes and the modern attempts to reclaim some former legitimacy are only digging the hole deeper

the only one suffering is Europe, but Christianity has grown far beyond the Europeans

>>53558615
>implying
It was obviously takfirism brought to your streets. You ain't no Muslim, bruv - if you were you'd have already registered with the Caliph's human resources department in Raqqa.

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Fuck Islam and all who sail in it.

>>53558710
Pham

http://creation.mobi/6000-years

Google, Phucboy

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>>53558845
>Protestants

>>53558822
what exactly is your point in posting this?

>>53557244
Fuck off, you stupid Indian.

I can't believe I share a religion with you filthy slobs.

>>53558876
It's literally in the bible

What the fuck is wrong with your dumbass

You claim the bible is historically accurate but the earth isn't about 6000 years old

Fuck you're dumb

>>53558631
No it doesn't, you idiot.

>>53557513
>Indonesia
>Having your beautiful culture cucked by islam

sad tbqh

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We're going to get rid of you.

No matter what it takes.

>>53557513
Great display of your "culture" in Jakarta today Abdul

>>53558938
>Fuck you're dumb
fuck off proddy
go to Catechism and learn what the faith is really about

adding up dates in Genesis means nothing, especially considering the timelessness of God and the naturally metaphoric nature of the creation stories.

>proddies still haven't realised the Bible is a number of genres and not a biography throughout

>itt: islam vs christianity shit throwing

this is what you wanted isn't it india?

>>53558845
This is one of the Idiot Math I ever read in my life.
From the start, it's already wrong.
The bible says that Human don't be making the same time as the earth being made in the Bible.
A shitty math that only idiot believe to be honest.
Also Objection this as a good evidence that the Bible says the earth was 6000 years old.
Better get another better evidence.

>>53558272
Who cares? You're a piece of shit either way

>>53557244

ARGENTINA
SI

>>53558631
the opposite really
Muslim India was impeccably clean even as far as the British were concerned
>>53559024
they started it, I have nothing against Islam and love to talk about it so long as they don't badmouth our Lord and Savior

>>53558685
>>53558911
>divided ummah among dozens of sects
>every muslim country is a shithole, some literally
>violent insurgents successfully gaining thousands of members in support
>old bitter conflicts becoming more deeply seated
>no caliph

I know that no generation of Muslims can compare to the Salaf, but none of you are even trying, and when I see you hateful ignorant excuses for "Muslims" on this board and in real life I care a little less each time. Where the fuck is the humility, the love of learning and compassion for good deeds, the willpower and perseverance that you would think would leave someone unaffected by the petty insults that begins arguments on here between "Muslims", all the traits of the Salaf and those spoken by Muhammad Muslims don't even need to convince me of because I already find beautiful, but I only see it in the original Muslims, with the modern Muslims trying to convince me I see nothing special.

Feels sad and bad man. I imagine Muhammad and the Rashidun are spinning so fast in their now blown up tombs from this modern shitshow excuse of a religion the Earth will soon collapse into a pulsar star.

>>53559018
Yeah all you do is just deny the bible

Go get raped by the pope faggot

>>53559029
Scroll down to the bottom Phuc

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>Not welcome: Pagan and polytheistic mushriqeen scum

YOU CAN'T STOP MEEEEEE

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YALL MUDSLIMES NEED SOME JESUS

>>53559070
>trusting a book which although powerful and important is going to be marred by human flaw over God Given insight and reason

lmao we figured this shit a thousand years ago and you bosche still can't wrap your pea brains around it.

>>53559070
Awe, I just see that they start talking about history. Which keep continue from the wrongful start.
Well, you know, if you wrong with the first place, either fix it or keep being wrong when you go forward.
Keep Digging shitty hole deeper you know.

>>53559120
thats Ali

>>53559124
You just said earlier how the bible is so accurate pick one you utter mong

>>53559024
I don't see why they're doing it, it's as if they're trying to prove that one religion is better than the other.

Islam, Judaism and Christianity are all almost the exact same. The Quran literally says that all people of the book (meaning Quran, Torah and Bible) will transcend to heaven if they accept Allah (which is literally Arabic for God, so it can also be the Christian or Jewish "greater being", not a human, and nothing more) as the one true God.

Although the Jews are all going to hell according to my religion, so I'm not sure if them being people of the book will save them.

>>53558719
Dunno man, ISIS hates everything apparently

>>53558778
Oh fuck you wahabcunt

I drove past a billboard today because I saw a bill board promoting Islam as a peaceful religion and almost veered into a '77 Roadrunner because I was laughing so hard

>>53559170
again you misinterpret (as proddies are so adept at doing)

it is accurate in that the New Testament we have today is the same as the one from less than a generation after Christ's death, there has been little to no change.
as well the shear number of commies and supporting texts further support its accuracy as a historical text.

As well the Old Testament is a different matter altogether.
the Church maintains the old testament as support of the New Testement, but it does not claim the accuracy/legitimacy of all its laws or corresponding dates.

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>>53559206
>tfw you didn't die

Allah why?

>>53559260
I didn't die because God loves me.
Also I'm a competent driver. Admittedly, almost had an accident.
That fucking billboard though. Holy shit

>>53559175
desu "God" was the name of an Anglo-Saxon deity which came to be used for the name of the One God and gods in general.

similar to Allah which was the name for an Arab deity before it began to be used for the monotheistic idea

>>53559064
If Muslims have failed this many times to restore their Golden Age, then there is obviously something structurally wrong with the religion. No supreme being's philosophy can be so tenuously metastable that it gets BTFO by a bunch of arrow-wielding gooks on horseback.

>>53559258
>the Church maintains
The Church is somehow tantamount to truth? The NT is, as I said, a loose interpretation of the OT. Maybe should be the history of Christianity and you will figure out that most the books of the new testament are based on self-interested interpretations of the old Testament by Christians – from Temple to Kingdom of God, from the passover lamb to Lamb of God, and so on. It took Christians three centuries (more actually) to decide which books to include in the canon. There were many in favour of dropping the OT completely because it contradicted the NT every so often, and were later labeled heretics. Your "religion" was born of a Roman's emperor's lust for power, and hence turns its followers into passive cucks.

>>53557244
Any chance that one day Abrahamic Religion will united again?
Believe in the same one God is good, but listen to many kind of book make everything become heretic and shit happens.

>>53559539
It will never, ever, ever happen.

Christians hate Muslims way too much, and Muslims hate the Jews way too much. I don't know who the Jews hate, probably both.

>>53559472
>The Church is somehow tantamount to truth?
the Church is God's representative on earth and the Pope is his minister so yes
>It took Christians three centuries (more actually) to decide which books to include in the canon.
the 4 main gospels have been paramount since the beginning, and whatever the political aims many apocryphal texts are extremely dubious and ill-sourced

personally I give them about the same credence as the works of Saints and theologians long after Christ.
important yet not primal

>>53559566
I think I will just let the Jewish book become unnecessary thing, also make them let care about Jesus *which cause islam* and Muhammad *which cause sunny and shia*.
Make them believe it's OK if they believe in same god, not because also other little thing.
I think there's a good reason why idolatry is bad and every Abrahamic religion practice idolatry *Cross, Star and Moon, Double Triangle symbol*.
Destroy all of them and they can be united even how good symbol it is, some sacrifice must happen for the United.

>>53559720
desu you always hate those most similar to you than those far divided

its why Christians hate protestants so much, and then Muslims to a lesser degree.

>>53557244
Indonesia just went full allahu akbar, check the news
Thanks mudshits

>>53559762
Because people like a perfect thing.
The closer to you perfect the harsher you act.
But well shit, word perfect at not being perfect and shit will keep happening if they want perfection.
Those little imperfect is a real reason for divide.

>>53559845
Has Helsinki ever been akbared?

>>53557513
> A rightful dutch colony unironically wrote this

>>53559539
Islam is totally different to Christianity.

Jews are still waiting for their messiah, and would never join the Arab supremacy movement known as islam.

>>53560120
I think they just Absolutely Heretic rather than totally different.
And Jews probably make more book to sale rather want united.

>>53559444
Those arrow wielding gooks actually continued the faith.

>>53560190
No, the Quran is a completely different holy text.

Each religion adds something to the already existing religious text. Christianity left the Jewish text intact and added the teachings of Jesus on top of them.

Muhammad "Revealed" the Quran (As he was illiterate) and used his new visions as a justification to conquer Arabia.

>>53560239
What a good story.
Sauce ?

>>53557244
I pooed in loo unlike you dirty muslim faggot

If Muslims only followed the Quran the middle-east would be a decent plac even.

I read some of it and it's boring but makes sense ethically and morally for its time period.

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>>53560850
>Cameroon
>pooing in the loo

>>53560941
>bangladesh
Fucking rat hole, street shitters, over 100 million of those subhuman faggots

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>>53561047
>Buttblasted Gypsy scum calling anyone else subhuman

>>53561047
bangladesh is the only country in south asia that actually does poo in the loo senpai

http://www.defeatdd.org/blog/becoming-open-defecation-free-bangladesh-it-was-strong-political-will

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ITT: Butthurt /pol/fags trying to derail muslim thread.

Mashallah brothers

Does muslim believe you have to be muslim to get to heaven?

>>53561166
Only Muslims, Jews and Christians can go to heaven

>>53561194
Why?

>>53561305
Because they believe in Allah (one omnipotent God) and the day of judgement

>>53561325
Seems a bit cruel to judge most people to eternal suffering in hell?

Christian society is better. Christian widows don't become homeless like muslims do.
Normal muslims in Tatarstan, because they are secular.
Also you tell about moral values, but bying wifes.

>>53561361
Since when are Semitic religions not cruel?

>>53561194
Muslims don't believe into christian God, because in Christianity God is three-united: The Father, The Son and The Saint Spirit.

>>53557244
>Not welcome: Pagan and polytheistic mushriqeen scum.
Bigoted subhuman confirmed.

In Christianity sin not just banned thing (also some muslims are qaranists), it'a a thing that makes your away from God.
Also wahhabizm = theocratical islamic nationalism.

>>53561325
Typical anglocanadian

>>53561403
It's what the Quran says. Jews and Christians can go to heaven

Oh I forgot to mention the Quran says if you are pious non-Semitic religion and were never introduced to Islam in a proper manner you can go to heaven

>>53561496
I heard that if you're a Muslim who sins during your life you'll be in hell but you'll eventually go to heaven, whereas if you're not a Muslim at all you won't go to heaven.

Is this wrong?

Also washing unwiped ass without soap is iditiosm.
I always wipe (toilet paper + wet toilet paper) and sometimes wash with soap after it.
What is point to use only water? It's dirty.

grew up "Muslim" but once I came to the US for university I kinda stopped doing anything with it cuz I never really believed it

>tfw there are a lot of people who would want to kill me for that

>>53561556
>Wanting toilet paper stuck in your ass
Meh, a lot of modern day Muslims have accommodated the use of toilet paper now a days. Now, they'll use both

>>53561537
I'm not a expert but Islam has major sins just like Christianity. Eventually you go to heaven when you paid for your sins

If you were introduced to Islam in a proper and clear fashion and rejected it you go to hell.

If you were never introduced, Allah will test you by saying "enter the fire" to see if you submit to God, if you don't do it you go to hell

If you do enter the fire it won't burn or harm you

>>53561567
Qaranism is the most light version of Islam, absolutely dearabiazed, qaranist even can prey on his language.
But I prefer Orthodoxy and Catolcism. I like moral view of Orthodoxy, but prefer catholic culture, buildings and etc.
And I am angnostical too, but listening orthodoxical lections about religion.

>>53561599
Toilet paper + wet toilet paper

>>53561660
I am from a Gulf state so some of the stuff is a bit more extreme

Here in the US evidently no one gives a fuck so I get to live a new life. Once my student visa is up I plan on claiming asylum since my religious choices would probably get me severely harmed.

>>53561692
>wet toilet paper
same shit

>>53561361
Scandicuck encounters the concept of judgment.

>>53561724
It makes you 100% clean and you don't have to wash if you're hurry

>>53561745
Shut up, poo in loo.

Aren't you fucking Muslims supposed to affirm Jesus as a prophet of Allah?

>>53561759
Well, that hasn't picked up yet. Don't think it's going to make much of a difference what with toilet hoses becoming popular

>>53561759
Bidet is common in Europe too but not North America

What muslims are thinking about mormons?
Yoba.gif

>>53561858
Meme Christianity

>>53561807
Yes but Islam rejects the trinity. He's one of the most important prophets in Islam

>>53561924
Then why is this goddamn poo-in-loo arguing with everyone about the validity of the NT?

>>53557861
millions of them are coming to europe atm.

>>53561954
>implying i am a muslim
>implying i didn't create this thread just to create butthurt

>>53562065
>>implying i am a muslim
I was actually really confused about this because I was pretty sure that Islam didn't permit worshiping toilets and people with elephantiasis.

>>53561954
I don't know. I guess Muslims just have an issue with Christianity delving into the whole "son of god" thing and how it's a slippery slope of distorting the oneness of god.

A Jewish Rabbi said to a Pastor something along the line of "you worhship the son but you forget the father? the one who created everything for you?" and went into an analogy about people holding the prince dear but not the king.

Along the lines of that

>>53562065
I believe in Allah(ultimate reality)
What next thing to do?what is the goal of life?
(I poo in loo)

>>53557244
Why don't you just kill yourself? You will be doing your nation and the world a favor.

>>53562316
cool flag, where'd ya get it?

>>53562347
From Turkey XD

Islam is a joke and its adherents are virtually all shitskins.

Left Islam 4 years ago. Best decision of my life. Haven't told anyone yet tho desu.

>>53562316
>>53562347
>>53562361

"I would rip out the green part any moment...
The flag of Azerbaijan (Azerbaijani: Azərbaycan bayrağı) is a tricolour featuring three equally sized fesses of blue, red, and green, with a white crescent and an eight-pointed star centered in the red. The blue symbolises Azerbaijan's Turkic heritage, the red stands for progress, and the green represents Islam."

>>53562392
You just told me, bud.

>>53557244
Islam? More like "Is LAME" ahahahahaha

>>53562392
Go public. The world needs people like you.

>>53562295
nice proxy phileas

>>53562392
>Left Islam

So what, you were a practicing muslim? You prayed 5 times a day and shit?

>>53562477
I'm pakka Indian.
Merely praying or praising Allah is goal of life?

Poo in the loo lmao. Why are you muslim I thought you worship toilets down there

What we muslims on /int/ should embrace is the stereotypes that 4chan have about us. Don't be apologetic, don't be pathetic with #notallmuslim campaign.

Embrace it. Yes we are terrorists. Yes we will terrorize you. Yes we will invade your land with refugees. InshaAllah Europe will be muslim in the near future.

Neckbeard neets can only complain on 4chan. The leftist media is on our side. Edgy 4channers only dare to spout their hatred here on the internet, for they are pussies in real life while we muslims, we prepare to die for our deen.

Reminder that fundamental islamism is the only true islam


say no to """"moderate islamism"""""

t. melayu

>>53565887
No I haven't terrorizing anyone before except for ur mum last night but she liked it so it doesn't count

>>53562393
Weren't you a shia cleric?

>>53562391
Muslims come from all races and colours. Arabs make less than 20% of muslims

>>53565956
Haram

>moderate muslims

>>53561082
sorry m8 but you're literal shitskins

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>>53566107
>non-gypsy Romanian

>>53558671
Guy, you're confused. The Qur'an had both a strong oral tradition as well as a written tradition (although not compiled) during Muhammad's life time. Then during Rashidun Caliph Uthman (who reigned starting from about 1 decade after Muhammad's death to 2 decades), there was a written compilation.

"Centuries later" refers to Hadith, not the Qur'an as you said.

>>53566265
>brown asians

>>53558745
Did you mean Islam or Christianity is in death throws, because both still have huge number of followers, and as far as I am aware, both are nominally growing. Or were you referring to the idea that Christianity isn't taken seriously by many Christians anymore?

Your days are numbered, Saracens.

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>>53560225
When will this meme end?

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GET THE FUCK OUTTA MY BOARD MUDSLIMES

Who /salafi/ here? Ok. Praise Maududi.

>>53566745
>swede
>Christian

>>53559029
>cucked Viet Christian who loves America

Did we really bomb you that hard?
Does this nean Iraq and Syria will love us in a decade?

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>>53571038
He doesn't have to be Christian to hate muslims, Rajeesh. Pretty much every one hates you equally.

>>53566745
Hello

>>53557244
what is islams' stand on anime?

Salaam bro

Today I tried to earn a halal living by going to work, that's what I did for the religion of Allah
I encourage my paki bros to do the same

>>53572743
Salam akhi

If you watch anime and you believe in anime then it is haram, however if you watch anime and not believe in anime then it's OK!

>>53557513
""""white""" """people""" cant into culture or religion, hence why they steal everyone elses, they even think norse religion is an authentic """european""" religion

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>>53572977
for the first time on /int/ i can actually say it
t. paki

also, this thread fucking sucks and OP should kill himself

How great will be to learn arab

>>53566745
how about make ur own thread

>>53573479
Must be fucking new here
Also that joke only makes sense when someone doesn't announce their ethnicity in advance
You fucking monkey retard hue

can i get loli wife if i convert?

What's the Kuran's stance on shitposting?

I hope one day we will wake up and kill all the moslem scum in our country. They are the least educated, least civilized 'people' who are mostly criminals and rapists. The Islam is just a big terror organization. Leave my country alone.

>>53575073
Encouraged.

>>53557244
>Mushriqeen
this means people who shine
you mean to say Mushrikeen

i want to fuck indonesian hijab qts

>>53575238
breddy sure the root is shin raa qaaf

>>53572743
Halal in general, but if you think that Kuroneko was not best, then you are transgressing your bounds.