Calling all my Muslim brothers from wherever. What did you do today to further the rule of Deen-ul-Haq?
Welcome: Muslims, Christians, and Jews
Not welcome: Pagan and polytheistic mushriqeen scum.
The Cow is weird. For some reason it was decided one of the longest surah's full of rules would be right in the beginning. Hop to the back of the book for more poetic shorter surah's, don't worry it's non-linear anyways.
General's are not hugboxes and safe spaces for whatever you arbitrarily decide to put in the OP, people are allowed to say what they want on this site so long as it's on topic and not blatant shitposting.
Yes, it is a bit monolithic in mood but I liked the repetition of certain sentences "God is Omnipotent", "God knows what you are doing", "God is indulgent" "Maybe you'll be able to comprehend". Pretty rad
>I think Shia Islam is the correct path
If Christianity stopped at worshiping single 'divine' individual, Shias worship 12.
Do yourself a favor and get over religions and stop believing in some fairly tales some middle easterns wrote in the desert.
>stop believing in some fairly tales some middle easterns wrote in the desert
This. I'm into religion because of sheer curiosity. But I don't really believe in any.
>Implying the God of people from the desert is fit for us
his human form died, his divine soul endured
he left his scripture in his deeds, the apostles were chosen to continue his legacy and spread it to the world
and beyond that there is more legitimacy backing the new testament's legitimacy and accuracy than there is the life and words of Muhammad or the Quran itself.
besides Islam is just a heretical branch of Christianity, grown out of Syriac and Arian traditions, that developed into its own unique tradition over centuries.
its fine to believe and the message is more or less similar, but ultimately its claim of primacy is illegitimate.
>and beyond that there is more legitimacy backing the new testament's legitimacy and accuracy than there is the life and words of Muhammad or the Quran itself.
Just stop. You're embarassing yourself.
the textual evidence4 of the New Testament and its accuracy is incredibly strong, not to mention the earliest accounts come far sooner than the actual writing of the Quran came following Muhammad's death.
beyond this there are fare more sources to check and support the writing in the NT than in the Quran where the number of early sources is extremely limited.
>The bible says the earth is 6000 years old
some old brits said that by trying to interprete the various dates and numbers within Genesis
and it does not say anything regarding the shape of the earth
beyond that none of this has any bearing on the New Testament.
Hadith and Sunnah is one of the largest non verifiable clusterfucks in human history. To think of all methods a god would choose to clarify all differences and send a final clear message, he chose a 200 year old game of Chinese Whispers, with credibility based on individual reputation. Laughing my fucking ass off familia.
>cartoons are haram
YOU JUST CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP
Nigger, the earliest Homeric manuscfipts we have were written a millennium after he lived. It's worse with your horribke interpretation of Judaic texts, i.e. New Testament.
This is an islam thread. You can spew nonsense about your almost dead, mockery of a faith somewhere else.
Islam is in far worse trouble than Christianity is m8
its in its death throes and the modern attempts to reclaim some former legitimacy are only digging the hole deeper
the only one suffering is Europe, but Christianity has grown far beyond the Europeans
It was obviously takfirism brought to your streets. You ain't no Muslim, bruv - if you were you'd have already registered with the Caliph's human resources department in Raqqa.
We're going to get rid of you.
No matter what it takes.
>Fuck you're dumb
fuck off proddy
go to Catechism and learn what the faith is really about
adding up dates in Genesis means nothing, especially considering the timelessness of God and the naturally metaphoric nature of the creation stories.
>proddies still haven't realised the Bible is a number of genres and not a biography throughout
This is one of the Idiot Math I ever read in my life.
From the start, it's already wrong.
The bible says that Human don't be making the same time as the earth being made in the Bible.
A shitty math that only idiot believe to be honest.
Also Objection this as a good evidence that the Bible says the earth was 6000 years old.
Better get another better evidence.
the opposite really
Muslim India was impeccably clean even as far as the British were concerned
they started it, I have nothing against Islam and love to talk about it so long as they don't badmouth our Lord and Savior
>divided ummah among dozens of sects
>every muslim country is a shithole, some literally
>violent insurgents successfully gaining thousands of members in support
>old bitter conflicts becoming more deeply seated
I know that no generation of Muslims can compare to the Salaf, but none of you are even trying, and when I see you hateful ignorant excuses for "Muslims" on this board and in real life I care a little less each time. Where the fuck is the humility, the love of learning and compassion for good deeds, the willpower and perseverance that you would think would leave someone unaffected by the petty insults that begins arguments on here between "Muslims", all the traits of the Salaf and those spoken by Muhammad Muslims don't even need to convince me of because I already find beautiful, but I only see it in the original Muslims, with the modern Muslims trying to convince me I see nothing special.
Feels sad and bad man. I imagine Muhammad and the Rashidun are spinning so fast in their now blown up tombs from this modern shitshow excuse of a religion the Earth will soon collapse into a pulsar star.
>Not welcome: Pagan and polytheistic mushriqeen scum
YOU CAN'T STOP MEEEEEE
>trusting a book which although powerful and important is going to be marred by human flaw over God Given insight and reason
lmao we figured this shit a thousand years ago and you bosche still can't wrap your pea brains around it.
Awe, I just see that they start talking about history. Which keep continue from the wrongful start.
Well, you know, if you wrong with the first place, either fix it or keep being wrong when you go forward.
Keep Digging shitty hole deeper you know.
I don't see why they're doing it, it's as if they're trying to prove that one religion is better than the other.
Islam, Judaism and Christianity are all almost the exact same. The Quran literally says that all people of the book (meaning Quran, Torah and Bible) will transcend to heaven if they accept Allah (which is literally Arabic for God, so it can also be the Christian or Jewish "greater being", not a human, and nothing more) as the one true God.
Although the Jews are all going to hell according to my religion, so I'm not sure if them being people of the book will save them.
again you misinterpret (as proddies are so adept at doing)
it is accurate in that the New Testament we have today is the same as the one from less than a generation after Christ's death, there has been little to no change.
as well the shear number of commies and supporting texts further support its accuracy as a historical text.
As well the Old Testament is a different matter altogether.
the Church maintains the old testament as support of the New Testement, but it does not claim the accuracy/legitimacy of all its laws or corresponding dates.
desu "God" was the name of an Anglo-Saxon deity which came to be used for the name of the One God and gods in general.
similar to Allah which was the name for an Arab deity before it began to be used for the monotheistic idea
If Muslims have failed this many times to restore their Golden Age, then there is obviously something structurally wrong with the religion. No supreme being's philosophy can be so tenuously metastable that it gets BTFO by a bunch of arrow-wielding gooks on horseback.
>the Church maintains
The Church is somehow tantamount to truth? The NT is, as I said, a loose interpretation of the OT. Maybe should be the history of Christianity and you will figure out that most the books of the new testament are based on self-interested interpretations of the old Testament by Christians – from Temple to Kingdom of God, from the passover lamb to Lamb of God, and so on. It took Christians three centuries (more actually) to decide which books to include in the canon. There were many in favour of dropping the OT completely because it contradicted the NT every so often, and were later labeled heretics. Your "religion" was born of a Roman's emperor's lust for power, and hence turns its followers into passive cucks.
Any chance that one day Abrahamic Religion will united again?
Believe in the same one God is good, but listen to many kind of book make everything become heretic and shit happens.
>The Church is somehow tantamount to truth?
the Church is God's representative on earth and the Pope is his minister so yes
>It took Christians three centuries (more actually) to decide which books to include in the canon.
the 4 main gospels have been paramount since the beginning, and whatever the political aims many apocryphal texts are extremely dubious and ill-sourced
personally I give them about the same credence as the works of Saints and theologians long after Christ.
important yet not primal
I think I will just let the Jewish book become unnecessary thing, also make them let care about Jesus *which cause islam* and Muhammad *which cause sunny and shia*.
Make them believe it's OK if they believe in same god, not because also other little thing.
I think there's a good reason why idolatry is bad and every Abrahamic religion practice idolatry *Cross, Star and Moon, Double Triangle symbol*.
Destroy all of them and they can be united even how good symbol it is, some sacrifice must happen for the United.
Because people like a perfect thing.
The closer to you perfect the harsher you act.
But well shit, word perfect at not being perfect and shit will keep happening if they want perfection.
Those little imperfect is a real reason for divide.
No, the Quran is a completely different holy text.
Each religion adds something to the already existing religious text. Christianity left the Jewish text intact and added the teachings of Jesus on top of them.
Muhammad "Revealed" the Quran (As he was illiterate) and used his new visions as a justification to conquer Arabia.
>Buttblasted Gypsy scum calling anyone else subhuman
bangladesh is the only country in south asia that actually does poo in the loo senpai
ITT: Butthurt /pol/fags trying to derail muslim thread.
Christian society is better. Christian widows don't become homeless like muslims do.
Normal muslims in Tatarstan, because they are secular.
Also you tell about moral values, but bying wifes.
It's what the Quran says. Jews and Christians can go to heaven
Oh I forgot to mention the Quran says if you are pious non-Semitic religion and were never introduced to Islam in a proper manner you can go to heaven
I heard that if you're a Muslim who sins during your life you'll be in hell but you'll eventually go to heaven, whereas if you're not a Muslim at all you won't go to heaven.
Is this wrong?
grew up "Muslim" but once I came to the US for university I kinda stopped doing anything with it cuz I never really believed it
>tfw there are a lot of people who would want to kill me for that
I'm not a expert but Islam has major sins just like Christianity. Eventually you go to heaven when you paid for your sins
If you were introduced to Islam in a proper and clear fashion and rejected it you go to hell.
If you were never introduced, Allah will test you by saying "enter the fire" to see if you submit to God, if you don't do it you go to hell
If you do enter the fire it won't burn or harm you
Qaranism is the most light version of Islam, absolutely dearabiazed, qaranist even can prey on his language.
But I prefer Orthodoxy and Catolcism. I like moral view of Orthodoxy, but prefer catholic culture, buildings and etc.
And I am angnostical too, but listening orthodoxical lections about religion.
I am from a Gulf state so some of the stuff is a bit more extreme
Here in the US evidently no one gives a fuck so I get to live a new life. Once my student visa is up I plan on claiming asylum since my religious choices would probably get me severely harmed.
I don't know. I guess Muslims just have an issue with Christianity delving into the whole "son of god" thing and how it's a slippery slope of distorting the oneness of god.
A Jewish Rabbi said to a Pastor something along the line of "you worhship the son but you forget the father? the one who created everything for you?" and went into an analogy about people holding the prince dear but not the king.
Along the lines of that
"I would rip out the green part any moment...
The flag of Azerbaijan (Azerbaijani: Azərbaycan bayrağı) is a tricolour featuring three equally sized fesses of blue, red, and green, with a white crescent and an eight-pointed star centered in the red. The blue symbolises Azerbaijan's Turkic heritage, the red stands for progress, and the green represents Islam."
What we muslims on /int/ should embrace is the stereotypes that 4chan have about us. Don't be apologetic, don't be pathetic with #notallmuslim campaign.
Embrace it. Yes we are terrorists. Yes we will terrorize you. Yes we will invade your land with refugees. InshaAllah Europe will be muslim in the near future.
Neckbeard neets can only complain on 4chan. The leftist media is on our side. Edgy 4channers only dare to spout their hatred here on the internet, for they are pussies in real life while we muslims, we prepare to die for our deen.
Reminder that fundamental islamism is the only true islam
say no to """"moderate islamism"""""
Guy, you're confused. The Qur'an had both a strong oral tradition as well as a written tradition (although not compiled) during Muhammad's life time. Then during Rashidun Caliph Uthman (who reigned starting from about 1 decade after Muhammad's death to 2 decades), there was a written compilation.
"Centuries later" refers to Hadith, not the Qur'an as you said.
Did you mean Islam or Christianity is in death throws, because both still have huge number of followers, and as far as I am aware, both are nominally growing. Or were you referring to the idea that Christianity isn't taken seriously by many Christians anymore?
GET THE FUCK OUTTA MY BOARD MUDSLIMES
He doesn't have to be Christian to hate muslims, Rajeesh. Pretty much every one hates you equally.
for the first time on /int/ i can actually say it
also, this thread fucking sucks and OP should kill himself
I hope one day we will wake up and kill all the moslem scum in our country. They are the least educated, least civilized 'people' who are mostly criminals and rapists. The Islam is just a big terror organization. Leave my country alone.