Who would /int/ rather see as our new president? It will be one of these two.
o i am laffin
You clearly know nothing about Hillary while slurping up everything the people on the TV say. I'm willing to bet you're a muzzie who's butthurt about him not wanting more of you assholes coming over here. That's it isnt it?
I thought Hillary was kill after all those emails and his pervert husband.
Trump seems made of literal teflon and to me in my mind it seems that unless he's charged of something absurd like child porn he is going to undisputed win this.
>You mean if Hillary gets Trump to suck her dick
>implying there is any difference
Do Americans really believe democrats and republicans are different? Top fucking kek.
Sanders is apparently polling better than Clinton now. Some recent revelations about her emails as well as Trump shitting on her is causing it, because Bernie hasn't once gone after her. If he did he'd win the democratic nomination no problem.
Trump himself is different. That's the whole thing this election. People are tired of the centrist status quo bullshit. And if Bernie wins it will be a clear choice for the American people. LEFT or RIGHT
I find the idea of Donald Trump controlling nuclear weapons unsettling. Other than that certainly Trump. He can get shit done and congress will probably block anything downright insane. And even if Trump can't get shit done it will at least be funny as fuck.
To be fair, Trump is fairly leftist when it comes to taxing the rich, but he's very rich himself, so it isn't like he's trying to incite class warfare when he talks about doing it.
He also used to be a democrat, and it's not like he's gone full Rick Santorum or anything
The community organizer from the most politically corrupt town in America is sure doing a bang-up job. Get fucked and get educated before you start talking about American affairs please.
Thanks for embarrassing yourselves, Obongo did a great job right? Haha, you cucks just fly into such an incoherent rage every time someone brings up the facts about your little racist that you end up contradicting yourselves
Bush was Yale educated.
Truman didn't graduate from college or have a degree. His political experience was holding office via a corrupt political machine and he admitted to it.
I don't think political experience matters if you have good advisors. Look at Obama.
Out of these two the choice is easy - trump.
Out of trump vs bernie, i am not sure.
On the one hand i want memes and someone who will actually enforce the law (ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS ARE ILLEGALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL) and will build a wall to make enforcing the law make sense in the first place. On the other hand i think bernie will be good for the world/murrica because any crazy cuck ideas he has will be blocked by congress and all of his legit good ideas will make it through.
So its either a little cuckyness or memes. Shillary is not even in the debate.
Pretty much and the electoral college favors her.
The Republican has to win Nevada, Viriginia, Ohio, Florida, and New Hampshire.
Politicians don't get arrested.
Because he's fucking the Republican establishment and Democrats love seeing that happen.
Jesus christ. I'm Japanese-American and I plan to vote for Clinton but thanks for calling me racist.
Tell me what Obama the one term senator from the most corrupt city in the most politically corrupt state did that was so good.
>On the one hand i want memes and someone who will actually enforce the law (ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS ARE ILLEGALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL)
Hey, here's an idea, instead of punishing immigrants who are only trying to seek out a better life for themselves try punishing the companies that hire them. Hit a lot of the large Agri-businesses that employ a lot of illegal labor with massive fines in the hundreds of millions to billions of dollars range and make hiring illegals a felony charge with minimum jail terms. Put everyone involved in hiring illegal labor in jail from HR all the way up to the CEO. If we want to stop illegal immigration we have to stop enabling it.
But none of this will ever happen because it would piss off the lobbyists.
He's leading in New Hampshire because New Hampshire and Vermont are literally right next to each other and have the most similar cultures. They're practically sister states.
Fair point about Iowa though
He might as well be Hillary's... Trump card
>If we want to stop illegal immigration we have to stop enabling it
you build a fucking wall and kick them out is how
right now you kick them out *sometimes* and they just literally walk back in
>try punishing the companies that hire them
why not punish both
why not enforce your fucking laws and uphold the fucking mother fuck constitution that your politicians and president are literally sworn to uphold
shit blows my mind
The people who actually hire them are already skirting the law by paying them off the book. I don't think your idea would do anything, especially in sanctuary cities, but it wasn't a bad idea
Shillary is tumblr the candidate
Sanders is leddit the candidate
Trump is 4chan the candidate
Not the same guy but I haven't heard him say anything about creationism. It wouldn't surprise me, a hilariously high number of white, older, protestant Texans believe the world is only 6000 years old. His dad does believe in creationism.
I'm Texan to btw so I'm not just trying to stereotype Texans or anything
>Yet of the Republicans, the most flagrant irrationalist is clearly Texas junior Sen. Ted Cruz. For starters, Cruz pandered fulsomely to the faith-deranged by choosing to announce at Liberty University, that bastion of darkness located in Lynchburg, Virginia. Once administered by the late Jerry Falwell, Liberty promises a “World Class Christian education” and boasts that it has been “training champions for Christ since 1971” – grounds enough, in my view, to revoke the institution’s charter and subject it to immediate quarantine until sanity breaks out.
>Allow me a brief yet significant digression. One wonders, in Cruz’s case, if the malady of faith isn’t acquired, but transmitted genetically. In 2013, his father, Rafael, an Evangelical pastor, spoke at a Second Amendment advocacy meeting in Oklahoma. He declared atheism amounts to a lack of moral absolutes. Hence, “If there’s no god,” then no moral absolutes can exist, “and you can change the rules.” This “leads us to sexual immorality, leads us to sexual abuse, leads us to perversion, and of course, no hope!” At least one of Ted Cruz’s own direr musings — that gays are waging a ”jihad . . . in Indiana and Arkansas, and going after people of faith who respect the biblical teaching that marriage is the union of one man and one woman” — prompt the question: if Cruz is elected, will he classify homosexuality as terrorism and dispatch gay “jihadis” to Guantanamo?
No quote on quote, but Ted Cruz has defined himself as born again. Born agains don't believe in evolution as a fact. Dinosaurs being millions of years old is imcompatible with born again's views.
I think Bernie will over take Hillary. Some people are saying Rubio will be the runner up over Trump but I doubt. The GOP probably wants Rubio over Trump, but they can't push Trump out or he will split the vote. So Trump is their only option.
Trump's very energetic and knows how to soeak with conviction, I can never say when he's being serious. But for being a long time pro-black pro-gay and pro-gressive he has a solid base. This gon be good
If Trump wins the election it will result in more liberal tears than we had during Dubya's entire presidency and 4chan will be nothing but Trump memes for weeks
No fuck you, legitimizing illegals would be a complete stab in the back to people who actually go through our fucked up legal process
Illegals broke the law and should be deported
pretty sure Trump is just trolling and trying to assassinate the Republican Party
if he outperforms Hillary he'll just say something over the top against Jews or black people to sabotage himself
>FDR sent American citizens to prison camps
>viewed as hero by present day liberals
>Trump wants to deport illegals and keep Muslims from entering America
>viewed as Hitler by present day liberals
I bet it would cause a handful of tumblrinas to kill themselves
I'm American military and enjoying the full benefits of our conquest here.
FDR was shit. Four terms, Social Security slush fund, poor government construction jobs programs that even today Dems try to promote as a solid path to prosperity (Obama and "shovel-ready" jobs).
genuinely don't understand why Trump has so much support. Literally just says the most empty, soulless things and everyone goes wild.
>"We're going to win so much you're going to get tired of winning"
>crowd doesn't even ask how and just starts chanting USA USA USA
And even if Trump does manage to get in office and ruins this country even further, he still won't be blamed. Instead his administration and the rest of America will blame it on Obama
dude, everything is a joke
nothing is real, no one is serious
If you accept these core concepts into your daily routine you'll notice significant enhancements regarding your mood and quality of life.
Bernie seems like a nice man, but I don't think his politics would work in the US (again, I haven't read much about him).
Rubio looks fishy desu. So the GOP is in a tight spot, I see? I'm not even a SJW fag, but Trump seems waaay over the top with his ideas, as well founded some are.
Saying the wall thing AND that Mexico will pay it is pretty based tbqhwyf.
He was a good dictator.
4 elections. Controlled the media. Ran political machines. Disliked blacks. Disliked Asians especially. Put Japanese in camps. Nationalized many industries and used them for political votes. Tried to stuff the Supreme court. Slowly dragged the US into WW2. Signed off on Operation Paperclip (taking Nazi scientists, giving them amnesty, and using them for military information).
But he did many good things as well and ended up helping America through a time of crisis. He helped set up our dominance.
I never said they shouldn't. You can still deport them but blaming them for attempting to better themselves is wrong and the hate should be redirected at the companies that enable that behavior in the first place. Illegal immigrants are the symptom of a greater problem. Not THE problem in and of itself.
We need to do big audits of large companies and thoroughly check their financial records and employment records for any evidence that would suggest workers are being paid under the table. I don't care how invasive it is or how much it violates a company's "privacy." They aren't people and they do not deserve the same protection.
Didn't Obama blame Bush for the instability in Iraq just last night?
You're asking for the impossible.
Also didn't Obama say the same souless things in 2008.
>"we're gonna change the whole world. Change will make us proud of America again."
Shouldn't it be directed at the shithole of Mexico that lets them in?
Or our shitty government that doesn't enfore our laws?
The companies give those people the jobs they survive on. I agree the people do what is natural, but it's still illegal. Stoning apostates is natural in Iran, doesn't make it right here.
Our government is the first one to blame.
Trump is going to do the exact same thing. Try to get elected and try to stay popular.
I expect that he will at least stop a lot of illegals and Syrians from coming in though. Presidents control foreign policy, not economic policy. I think Trump has a good foreign policy.
Not a huge Obama supporter but that is correct. At least one of the Bushes are responsible. Unless you go way back, to the break up of the Ottoman empire, government over throws by the US/UK/Russia and taking Isreal
>he still won't be blamed. Instead his administration and the rest of America will blame it on Obama
A lot of problems do start in previous administrations. The mortgage crisis was made worse by repeal of glass steagal as well as pressure on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to extend mortgages to lower income individuals by Clinton's administration.
Oh his 36% nominaton support is just a meme.
We aren't /pol/.
So wait, 8 years of Obama doesn't make Obama responsible?
Pulling out in 2010 didn't have a destabilizing effect huh?
If you can't at least partially blame Obama, then why not blame the Ottamans in 1800 or the Mongols in 1300 or Muhammad for creating Islam in 600?
The buck stops here. Obama has been president for 8 years. Iraq is a shithole under his watch. He needs to stop blaming Bush.
dumbass with extreme views pandering to the generally ignorant vs old bag of untrustworthiness pandering to minorities in an unintentional condescending tone. Everyone sucks.
Fuck Bernie too. I wanna keep Barry because he's decent compared to these fuckers. I wanna write in Biden because he's awesome as fuck.
Against Hillary, Trump will win
Nobody wants this
She Jealous and wants Hollande for herself, like Merkel.
I would like Trump if he weren't so completely emotional and if he stopped carrying so heavily about what people thought about him. He just cares too much and it impacts his speech and ability to carefully articulate.
We desperately need a conservative president this time around, yet I lean very left; but sometimes you need to cast away your personal beliefs and accept what's best for the whole picture.
Hillary will kill him. He doesnt stand a chance and it will be a disaster for the Republican party. We all know that but we support him because he will burn America to the ground. Or he will stand at the ceremony and declares America morally bankrupt and laughs at the people who are such idiots that they really put him into office. Or he will do some good policies for the people because he dgaf about lobbies and campaign sponsors and he makes America great again.
Whatever, it will be a great show to watch.
>implying if FDR hadn't been there to regulate the war boom that it would have ended up benefiting the average citizen to the extent it did
>implying that if any other candidate was president during the war and before that things would have turned out so well
>implying that if FDR's favored man to take over after him didn't also get presidency that half his stuff wouldn't have been taken down and negating the effect of the war boom
>he honestly thinks the growth after the war for the average person was so one dimensional that it was inevitable
>he is probably in some entry level history class
I'll vote for chump if he gives me money.
Gonna need the cash first before I cast the vote though.
If Chump says something nice about China on national television, I'll consider voting for him for free.
>I remember the dollar when it was 3 pesos and the gi joes where like 20 pesos, now they are 200 pesos
Bernie #1, Trump #2
Fuck identity politicians
Fuck illegal immigrants
Fuck the rich who let immigrants waltz right inside in order to depress wages and labor bargaining power
Fuck the banks who ruined the housing market
and fuck the lobbyists, campaign financiers, and other entities in D.C. that do their best to undermine our democracy with money
>In freedom units: 5'7"
A freedom unit is the length of the nuclear bomb Fat Man
so 1 FM = 128 inches = 3.3 meters
Hollande = 0.52 FM
both are terrible, but clinton is just such a massive fucking cunt I want to see her bomb out of every election she takes part in
still pretty depressing that there arent any legit alternatives.
>both are terrible, but clinton is just such a massive fucking cunt I want to see her bomb out of every election she takes part in
Clinton was already responsible for bombing North Africa and the Levant as Secretary of State.
I think it would be karma if her campaign bombs
Anybody but those two and cruz. As long as it isn't those three shitheads, I don't care. And the people saying the'll vote for trump because of "the dank memes lmao watch le world burn" are fucking retarded.
That Jim Webb guy was pretty based. He was basically Hillary only he supported gun rights and didn't have the Benghazi stigma.
Also, I feel like Lincoln Chafee could have been a serious contender if only he were a bit more charismatic.
Neither. Trump is just a Democratic plant.
I'm 100% behind Jeb.
Should probably make it clear that Chump would literally have to get on national television and suck Xi Jinping or Ma Ying jeou's chinese cock if he expects me to consider voting for him.
I have to watch it and be like, "damn. this brown nosing cunt knows how to kiss ass. Imma vote for this guy."
>I'm 100% behind Jeb.
If you had citizenship here, you'd double his popular votecount
I'm wondering, just how the fuck did he manage to screw over his entire campaign that spectacularly?
he had so much investments behind him if he'd given folks 100 dollar to vote for him, he'd have a larger voterbase than he does now
I would prefer that Kim finally loses his mind before any of this happens, and then he proceeds to start WW3. Fuck 2016 desu.
Based Putin can help too, or maybe some shit in Syria. Hopefully all those things combined.
It doesn't matter who is going to be your next president.
Trump's stupidest shit will probably get shot down because it's loud and in the open
Hillary's stupidest shit won't get shot down because she is a conniving jew as well as the most famous cuck in the world
exactly what he says: Americans should be concerned toward Russian actions and US should stay the world wide police state. Btw I'm starving under sanctions, thankfully to rotten potato growing in our yard I'm still alive.
>America should be concerned toward Russian actions
Get out of here, Balalaika.
Nobody is scared of you.
he's right though
the only thing that Americans ever consider of Russia is that you have nukes. that's it
there's no Russian culture here
the few Russians who live here are in California and Florida, a bit in Illinois
the average American doesn't think of Russia at all
>Btw I'm starving under sanctions, thankfully to rotten potato growing in our yard I'm still alive.
Putin doesn't care about the Russian people, you're just tools he uses to fulfil his desires, otherwise he wouldn't sanction your food.
>Trump vs. Shillary Clinton/Cuck Sanders
Oh my god I can't wait for the /pol/ election threads,I can't wait for the presidential debates fuck this is gonna be Zimmerman trials all over again.
>Outspoken idiot with no understanding of foreign policy or how to keep his mouth shut
>Complete bitch who is about to be fucked in the ass with corruption charges by based FBI
Either way you're fucked. You need a combination of le free shit lmao and le wall man.
>merkel vs trump
oh boy, i am just now rethinking my stance on trump, purely because i want to witness that.
angela had a bit of a crush on Obama i think, so it's gonna be hilarious to see her interact with Trump.
bush and putin were besties tho
trump would be excellent for russia-US relations imo
Does anybody remember when Steven Cohen got raided and ass fucked by based FBI and SEC?
I think it was a warning.......
As a post note, would just like to add that whenever I see pictures with the caption, "LOL ITS ONLY 9MM" I think of CIA Nun Eda.
The election for American is in November correct? In all seriousness, do Americans,not just white trash, support ol'unca doland trump? Or is he simply an attention whore? I would like a somewhat honest oppion
He's attracting a lot of working-class voters, legal immigrants that hate illegals, independents and moderate Democrats
If by work with Russia (Putin) you mean letting him take over more clay while he is supporting a dictator in the middle east, all the while corruption is rampant in his own country, wages go down and journalism is extremely dangerous, then sure, you can.
Trump cares about one thing and one thing only - his ego.
He's party-less for the most part. He probably doesn't give a fuck about faggots and abortion, which in this country is enough to put you with the democrats. But with money he's noticeably on the right.
But the bottom line is, Trump will do anything to make the people say "I like that guy". That's his goal, to inflate his ego further.
Shit, he was right about the rebels in Syria.
As opposed to the estimate of 300,000 in Syria, 500,000 dead during the occupation of Iraq, 50,000 dead in Libya and 100,000 dead in Afghanistan, I'd say the Russians are keeping ot relatively clean.
who fucking LAUGHED ON LIVE TV after she watched Gaddafi getting sodomized
>We came, we saw, he died, hehehehe ...
YES I want this woman to run a country with a streak of middle east invasions and coup d'etats, please give her to me right now!
im a libshit so im voting for bernie in the primary. but i can't vote for hillary. if it's hillary v trump, i just won't vote.
>i just won't vote.
Vote. Just vote for a third party or yourself.
Staying home on election day is not a way to show your disagreement with modern politics.
The winner will still get the 270 electoral votes but will carry significantly less of the popular votes. This is how you demonstrate that you disagree with politics.
Officially? Yes. Occasionally there are unfaithful voters who vote for a party other than what they are supposed to.
It should be noted that certain have laws that the winner takes all electoral votes, others don't say this but do it in practice anyway.
Note the 1 in Washington. While this wasn't for a third party, the same concept applies.
Most people like Obama. Well I mean 51% of people voted for him whereas only 47% for Romney.
Oh, wait! Only 48% voted in total. What does this mean? This is what I don't want to happen. Just vote for a third party.
Trump is only running for the attention. It's all a big joke to him, and he's more than likely trying to split the Republican vote in Hillary's favor. All this talk about the wall and banning Muslims is so more progressive liberals will go out and vote for Clinton because "We can't let the racist, evil republicans win!", not to mention Trump loves having cameras all over him so he can keep bragging about how much of daddy's money he has.
Just watch. You'll all feel pretty stupid when November comes and Trump is either a) out of the race, or b) running as Independent. Meanwhile he and Bill will be laughing all the way to the bank as Hillary becomes the first female president with no real opposition, because the right will be too busy splitting themselves apart.
Deportation isn't just an act. It's a deterrent. If you don't deport, they will come because there's nothing to be afraid of in terms of punishment.
If you deport a poor ass after they spent the last $4,000 they own on this planet on having some coyote sneak them into this country you bet they won't be making a return journey, and others will learn from that example
you think the sudden influx of women and children into the country recently was a coincidence? No, they heard the US wasn't deporting women and children anymore, and by and large the policy had been softening.
It's very soft in much of the southwest. Sanctuary cities and corrupt bullshit. Do we want a fucking modern welfare state or not? Because unfettered immigration is exactly how you collapse a system like this.