What's the difference between these two?

>>53528920
>2
>not 6

>>53529568
>Retarded

>>53528920
They are like us but poorer and sadder.

>>53528920
This. Which ones? Andorra and Gibraltar? Morocco and France?

>>53530488
this

>>53528920
none, both countries are pathetic and lazy shitholes only sucking EU money

>LE SIESTA
fucking disgusting cockroaches

>>53528920
Spain is like Italy, Portugal is like Greece.

>>53530726
It always amazes me how slavs likes poles are always butthurt about Spain considering we have 0 historical relations.

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>>53530726
>poland

>>53530726
we don't have the siesta here poland

/union Iberia/ when?

>>53530804
>>53530844
>falling for obvious bait
Jesus southern europeans really are retarded

One is a shithole and the other is Portugal.

>>53530786
What the fuck does that even have to do?
Portugal and spain are more culturally/ethnically connect than italy with greece.

>>53530884
Yet you two are equally lazy.

>>53530804
>It always amazes me how slavs likes poles are always butthurt about Spain considering we have 0 historical relations.
it's because we work hard to preserve white race and European culture and you are just sucking German cock for money and breeding with Moors

fuck off, LEAVE EU NOW WE DONT NEED INDEBTED SHITHOLES LIKE YOU

>>53530973
If anyone replies to this I will be dissapointed

>>53530908
the portuguese-canadian, i presume?

>>53530908
t. Alberto Barbosa

>>53530949
>lazy
should I mention the average number of hours of work in EU?
Just because you found oil and because of that you're able to afford giving everything to your people on silverware doesn't mean you work hard.
I've been to norway a couple of years ago,your 11th/12th grade math is shit and too easy for our standards,your infrastructures are poorly invested for a rich country.
AND YOU CAN EAT INSIDE THE CLASSROOM REEEEEEEE

>>53530884
Why not? Both countries are equally hot in the afternoon

one thinks it is nonwhite
the other is white

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>>53528920
One of them is ruled by a Moorish king.

>>53530949
I think we actually work more hours than any other country in Europe on average

>>53531074
It's just part of Spanish culture, I guess, not ours

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>>53530924
Well we're connected in an economic way.

>>53528920
Besides the bullfighting both cunts are BASED!

>>53531174
debnts are not a connection

>>53531074
https://www.ipma.pt/en/
*sigh*
>>53531174
Don't you have like deadlines?Don't you still have to pay some stuff to leave the fmi program?
We left already...

>>53528920
Pretty much nothing. Portugal sucked anglo cock, we sucked french cock, and that's why we're not united.

>>53530924
>>53531071
>>53531220
you're full of hate mang
are you the 12 year old who started the thread about the refugees in Sweden?

>>53528920
One is full of muslims and niggers, the other two are Spain and Portugal

>brazilian education
Don'y you guys learn at school about the country that colonized your country and the country that colonized all your neighbors?

>>53531291
Don't know what you're talking about,post the thread here

>>53531233
Negro, in the future you will have intergalactic humans speaking Spanish and probably Portuguese if Brazil pulls it together, does that not make you proud? Your people are leaving permanent marks on history which is more than most cunts can say.

>>53531071
We were already the richest country in Europe just before WW2, we were rich before finding oil (just like our neighbours, we used to be on their level), we have more Fields medals and Nobel prizes in science than you (you have none) despite having like half of your population. You work a lot, but your productivity is shit and you barely innovate or conduct research. So yes, you are lazy and stupid while we aren't.

>It's just part of Spanish culture, I guess, not ours

Right, would make sense if you guys had siestas but thanks for explaining.

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>>53531497
We're stupid,but not lazy.
Let's leave it at that.

>>53531385
Yeah that would make proud, but that doesn't mean we haven't been historically cucked by France. Hell, we still have a french king.

>>53531534
But my country is 5 economy in EU.

>>53531366
Do you really think Tordesillas was just about pretty respect between the Christian Kingdoms, something "just in paper"?

Colonization was mixed.

t. the son of Nueva Toledo and Capitania de Sant'Anna.

>>53531836
>muh cisplatina

>>53531385
he's probably referencing the fact that Spain started to go downhill when the french stabbed our back

never thought about what you're saying though, that is actually quite an impressive feat to think about. too bad that we stopped being influential centuries ago

>>53531769
The only thing he has of French is the surname I think

>>53528920
I liked Spain more than Portugal when I visited them. Porto was extremely dirty, I dont know if I visited it a bad moment or what, but just too dirty

>>53531534
Pls kill this fking redneck with napalm

>>53531497
That's not really a fair assessment, Olaf, and I'll tell you why: our population's education wss strangled throughout the 20th century due to the dictatorship that reigned over us for 60-something years.

Most of the people aged >50 were only in school for 4 years. Going beyond the 4th grade of scholarity would be quite expensive and our impoverished populace wasn't able to get proper education to say the least. Most of the people would just hop off of school after being done with 4th grade and go work in farms and the like to sustent themselves.

TL;DR: education was virtually inaccessible for a vast majority of the population throughout most og the 20th century, which obviously held us behind greatly.

>>53530973
Poles are literally the dark folk of Europe.

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>>53531534
Top redneck

>>53532004
no, it's always like that
Porto is a shithole, I honestly don't understand why it's a tourist destination. Spaniards seem to love it too, for some reason.

>>53532002
>>53531769
Who gives a fuck about france?Their language is dead.
We have niggers breeding like rabbits ready to speak portuguese for the motherland :DDDD

>>53531963
I'm not talking about the shitty historical claims over Uruguay.
[Although their colonization was mixed too - "monte vide eu" might sound crappy nowadays, but it's clearly Portuguese, not Castillian.]

I'm talking about Paraná - most of those lands were settled firstly by Spaniards, Portuguese would arrive in Paraná's countryside far later (they were concentrated mainly in Paranaguá, the shore.)

>>53532170
>Porto is a shithole
Come on, it isn't.

>>53532254
I might be wrong, but according to Tordesilhas Paraná should be spanish, but brazilians kicked them out.

>>53532225
>We have niggers breeding like rabbits ready to speak portuguese for the motherland
does portugal really have many immigrants?

we all make a fuss out of foreigners in this board but Spain is only 10% foreign

>>53532337
In terms of looks, it is. It's a grey, old, decaying shithole and this is coming from someone who was born and raised there. Lisbon is so much prettier.

>>53532370
I was talking about angola and other african countries

>>53530901
They always do this alongside slovenians and czechs (sometimes croatinas). They are the only eastern europeans that insult spaniards. I've literally never seen a russian insulting us (inb4 a russian insults us ;^)).

>>53531141
>It's just part of Spanish culture
Only in the Southern part.

>>53532225
Let's just unite our countries and fuck the rest of europe. This time will go well, I promise.

>>53532370
we have less than that, probably 5 to 10% and mostly blacks from the former colonies and BRs, both of which have no problem assimilating
The other groups are very small minorities like Ukrainians but they're not enough to cause any trouble

Immigration isn't a problem here irl

>>53532356
It's correct - the borderline was Ilha do Mel, most mainland Paraná was part of Nueva Toledo.
Still, there were some Portuguese settlements and expeditions on the shore... and the lands were even divided between two capitanias, Santa Ana and São Vicente (mainly Santa Ana, though... São Vicente goes norther).

>>53532423
YMMV then, but I kinda like the old-fashioned looks of Porto. Tradition, history and stuff like that.

Most downtown Lisbon looks far younger than Porto due to the earthquake...

Iberia LatinoAmerica unión,Brasil, Spain, México, Colombia, Argentina, Chile .

we will win

>>53532170
Most of the cities are dirty. It's not only Porto, and it's not only Lisbon either. Our populace is a disgrace in the eyes of modern civilization, and I seem to approach that conclusion more and more. I see no prospect for improvement in the earlier generations. Most youngsters are vane crooks idolizing literal retards they see on the cancer that is portuguese television.

I'm jumping ship ASAP. This country is doomed. We need a great government to rise again. We're on the limbo of becoming a failed state. And WE are to blame, for indulging in this "typical portuguese behavior" - a crippling disregard for efficiency and knowledge - cancer that's killing our state.

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>>53532508
Fine by me but here's the rules:
1-The name should be either Iberia or Iberian Union
2-The flag should be this one.
3-The official language is both portuguese and spanish
4-The economic capital is in Madrid and the administrative(government) in Lisbon.

>>53532581
>5 to 10%

thank god i dont live in the cuck capital of the peninsula i only see blacks like once a week if that

>>53532225
So do we... I:DDD

>>53532698
And Portugal

>>53532581
We have like 3% niggers,don't exaggerate.
I hope you're not who I think you are

>>53530901
>he just realized this

>>53532698
Please.
PLEASE.
No.

Blobs only hurt the peoples under them.

>>53532733
this is completely
I've travelled all over the country and every other city is far from being as dirty as Lisbon and especially Porto (and maybe Braga). In fact, when I take people from these cities to any other city their first impression is always "This is so clean"

>>53532813
>We have like 3% niggers,don't exaggerate.
Is immigration in Europe that bad? I mean, is Portugal really 97% foreign as you say?

>>53532747
Sure why not. Our other languages should be recognised too, and I suggest being a republic.

>>53532698
>>53532849
Chile,Argentina,Uruguay,Sul,São Paulo,Portugal,Spain

>>53532902
I meant completely false, missed a word there

>>53532813
that's fair enough, the 5 to 10% was referring to the total foreign population here and not just niggers
I don't know if I am who you think I am but probably not

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>>53532921
I mean the very concept of union - there's no reason to bow to the same government due to cultural similarities. All that "Iberian Union" and "Latin American Union" feelings might be nice, but in practice, they don't work at all.

Still, here, have some flag for you guys.

>>53532917
Wich would be the option to a Republic?
Having a king that loves to suck Sauds cock?

>>53532904
Sorry,not 3%,we have 3% foreigners not africans,we have 1,4% africans
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afro-Portuguese
And most of them are half and pretty fuckable

>>53532733
>We need a great government to rise again.
As if a govermnent would fix all problems. As you mentioned, a lot of problems are cultural. But I disagree that the younger generations is the biggest the problem.

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>>53533039
>>53532917
We should have a king,but not yours,maybe princess heir should marry our pretender to the throne

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>>53533057

>>53532902
Braga is dirty and most of the people in it (especially the retarded worthless youth) have no issue with throwing garbage on the floor.

This country and its people are literally disgusting. We might be pretty chill and all, but we have way too many retarded idiots in our midst just shittying up the country and ruining whatever prospect there is for improvement.

>>53532921
México can be powerfull in a few years

>>53532747
Deal

>>53533319
Sadly, they won't.

Latin America is all about wasted potential.

>>53533319
Mexico has a high crime rate and corruption,it's unsavable...

>>53530726
They're sucking all that EU money that you should be sucking!

>>53533186
Nah dude we've been a kingdom for a long time and most king are stupid as shit.

>>53532921
Feels so good when besides normal crimes our south american american inmigration will never try to cleanse us in name of Allah like the Algerians with the frenchs

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>>53532747

Only iberian union I'm ready to accept

>>53533461
>WE WUZ KINGS AND SHIET
t. Albierto Barbuesa.

>>53533507
>WE HAVE KINGS and they're shit
cant you monkeys diferent past from present tense?

>>53533444
The funny thing is that we're paying negative interest to our creditors...So we're technically paying less that we received.
>>53533476
Well,they are still fucking annoying desu.Everytime i go check a youtube video about anything portuguese,there's a fucking huge horde of brazilians mocking our ''accent'' and other shit in the comments
Does the same happen to you?

>>53533559
Can you monos moros differentiate between joking and being serious?

>>53533671
Don't mind him, he's probably autist.

>>53533619
Happens eveytime too, they're like an anoying distant cousin but id rater take a decent family feud that Ahmed going full rape in my city

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>>53532747

>1-The name should be either Iberia or Iberian Union
Agreed

>2-The flag should be this one.
I prefer pic related. But I wouldn't oppose.

>3-The official language is both portuguese and spanish
Deal, but the rest of iberian languages too. At least in their states.

>4-The economic capital is in Madrid and the administrative(government) in Lisbon.
It is easy to distribute gubernamental centers as Netherlands or South Africa.

>>53532747

1. No. Iberia is a Greek name. Fuck the greeks. So we keep it España, because after all it's just a derivation of Hispania.
2. That flag gave me instant Hassberger. 'No'.
3. And basque, and catacuck, and balensiano, and gallego and asturianu and etc. In varietas happy clusterfuck.
4. The economic capital already is Madrid anyway. The seat of the Government could be in some remarkable, significant place, though. I propose up in the mountain of Covadonga to commemorate original kebab removal proccess, or Olivenza for obvious reunification significance, or Gibraltar for a glorious finish of the Reconquista.
Plus, we could designate Barcelona as the seat of the Ministry of Equality and LGBT Studies for the obligatory catacucklian special snowflake concession.

Alberto Barbosa

>>53533018
That flower looks like a vagina.

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misma diferencia

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>>53534872
>this flag

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>>53532921
sul mentioned

>>53532002
Doesn't even matter. Niggas in 2200 will still look back and respect regardless.

>>53538850

>I don't have taste.

>>53533270

Curious, are you refering to the city as a whole or are there particular parts where it's more visible?

White people above the Douro only desu