>be Canadian military
>have NO attack helicopters
We've relied on allies for helicopters in things like the War in Afghanistan. I can't really tell you why we don't have them, probably because the military is underfunded and Canadians don't give a shit.
>the United States
>making fun of any other country's military
>be US Navy
>get arrested by Iranians
YOU CANNOT MAKE THIS UP
You and I both know it was due to political reasons.
>be a better ally
You can talk shit about us in any other aspect you want, but talking shit about us militarily is highly ignorant and disrespectful
Go fuck yourself. You are the worst kind of American
>we didn't even WANT to win haha it was just a fun prank
Americans are just as pathetic as the last time I came to /int/.
>my education of the war is based on USAUSAUSAUSAUSAUSAUSAUSAUSA
But seriously, why?
Aren't attack helicopters a huge advantage for every military in modern warfare? I'm pretty sure America told us a few years or so ago to step up our game in regards to spending. Do they do the same with Canada?
List of Brazilian military achievements
At we put up a better fight in Vietnam than you did in the WC
Guess we'll have to start making people stop people chimping out the same way we made the japs from now on. That seemed to work.
As long as we're all clear on the rules.
>I'm pretty sure America told us a few years or so ago to step up our game in regards to spending. Do they do the same with Canada?
If you knew anythinf about Canadian military procurement over the last 70 years you'd understand why we never bothered.
Coating a huge pile of cash in seal blood and feeding it to polar bears would unironically be a more useful allocation of funds.
>Aren't attack helicopters a huge advantage for every military in modern warfare?
Our government doesn't consider us a "warfighting" nation anymore. We have fallen too deep into the bullshit liberal invented "peacekeeping" meme. Even if we had enough money for Attack Helicopters, we wouldn't buy any.
we just spend a few hundred million then back out at the end. such a fucking waste but that's nothing new for our government. i do wish we'd upgrade more shit and give the military a decent budget but like i said before we really don't even need a military. our special forces are top tier tho
>america is LITERALLY obligated to defend canada for some same amount of money that the mods make
Because a "warfighting" nation is what Canada is and has always been. This "peacekeeping" meme is just that. A Fucking stupid meme that needs to die. Trudeau doesn't even want to us to bomb ISIS for fuck sakes.
Not to mention that Canadian shits have no will to support the military. People are all about "muh vets" and "support da troopz :DDD" until the government actually decides to increase spending on the military. Once that happens it's "muh healthcare muthafucka" and "why do we even have a military?"
Le weed man's dad Trudeau 1.0 got rid of our last carrier interestingly enough
Most of our roles in NATO are on support duties, or ground operations (like lasing targets in Syria/Iraq for air strikes).
I think we should probably have some but our government is historically conservative when it comes to spending on anything except corporate bailouts. So even if we were to get the money, it'd probably not go towards attack helicopters unless Bombardier got a contract to develop and make them at stupid high costs.
>he thinks canada isn't a US satellite in exchange
>he thinks the entire world isnt a US satellite
no we really don't. we keep a small force just big enough to say we've contributed when you decide to fuck around with mudslimes which is all that ever happens anymore
must have scrapped them then. looks like we're mainly running frigates atm. we're supposed to be building new shit but it's not due for like 15 years. either way our navy is pretty fucked atm but who the fuck needs a navy when the largest navy on the planet is only hours from you?
>he thinks US influence stops at earth
You are lucky we didn't completely gut our military and totally leech off of you and spend the extra money on developing a super skidoo
At least we are trying. Don't be a stupid cunt
supposedly we've been looking into buying some French helicopter carriers. suppose then we'll need to buy some helicopters to put on it, unless of course we're planning to just sail around empty which wouldn't surprise me
The entire US military education is based on "realizing" why the US is misogynistic or racist or something.
We learn about WWII for a month, while we learn about the civil rights movement for an entire year.
Yes I'm mad.
I'm a student who graduated ~2010.
>spend the extra money on developing a super skidoo
we kinda are
> His country's military doesn't trust its own infantry to NOT waste all of its ammo in 1 day, so they replaced each person's rifle with a version that can not shoot full-auto.
THIS REALITY COULD NOT HAVE BEEN CONJURED
i know but i also kinda agree we don't need fucking F-35s but at the same time we've already put in a big chunk of cash so we should at least buy some then find something cheaper to replace the rest of the CF-18s
won't be hitting dealers anytime soon tho. hydrogen is expensive as fuck compared to gas and there's very few places you could even buy it so it's usefulness is very limited
>both boats suffered mechanical issues
It's like they don't even put effort into the lies any more.
My guess is that they were dropping listening devices or setting up other spying equipment and the dumb fucks got nailed.
I'm sure their orders were to immediately surrender if caught in Iranian waters. As fighting back would probably qualify as an invasion and give the IRGC a reason to launch a war and grab power.
YOU CAN'T FABRICATE THIS FAECAL MATTER
Maintaining F-35s in the long run will be cheaper than F-18s in the long run. The decision to cancel them was a short term decision that hurts everyone else involved in the program.
yes but we also don't need a fucking stealth jet. having a few would be fine and give us capability we don't currently have but the bulk of our air force should be something cheaper. i can't remember which now but i believe one of the Nordic countries had something that would be a good fit and at a much lower cost
Also the Gripen is fucking dogshit. You're better off just buying new F-18s.
Which is also dumb because then you'll literally be flying a 100 year old aircraft when you finally get off your ass and replace them.
Finland doesn't make jets. It's the Gripen.
Moreover why the fuck do you have any opinion at all on what plane is right for Canada when you don't know a fucking thing about any of them?
>he doesn't know about super tucano
you're right but i do know we have very little use for a fucking stealth fighter especially when it'll cost us $29.3 billion and that was before our dollar went to shit, can pretty much double the costs now
except it doesn't, plenty of other modern options with a far lower price tag. just because your government is fucking retarded when it comes to funding ridiculously expensive development programs doesn't mean we have to join you in the stupidity
>The US Marines declared the aircraft had met initial operational capability on 31 July 2015, despite shortcomings in night operations, communications, software and weapons carriage capabilities. However, J. Michael Gilmore, director of the Pentagon’s Operational Test and Evaluation Office, criticized the operational trials as not valid. In an internal memo, Gilmore concluded "the exercise was so flawed that it 'was not an operational test … in either a formal or informal sense of the term.' Furthermore, the test 'did not — and could not — demonstrate' that the version of the F-35 that was evaluated 'is ready for real-world operational deployments, given the way the event was structured
>The US Marines declared the aircraft had met initial operational capability on 31 July 2015,
There you go, it's in service. Now amount of David Axe's idiot army frantically editing wikipedia in damage control changes that fact.
what's wrong with it? looks like it'd do pretty much anything we'd ever need. you have to remember what role our military takes which is support after you've already bombed the fuck out of everything
>what's wrong with it?
Aside from it being more expensive than the F-35 and inferior by almost every metric?
Nothing I suppose.
Oh did I mention Canada geta to replace their entire stock of missiles and guided munitions cuz lol sorry champ they don't work on the Rafale.
> be USA
> USSR is kill
> still have worse army than Russia
Well I dunno what you're laughing at when you suck so hard. But it seems to me you just get oppressed and try to compensate that by laughing at a country with no real military forces at all, am I right?
Your country is running out of bombs to use in Syria.
One of our aircraft carriers in the region launched over 2,000 sorties on its own.
Unless I misunderstood you and what you actually meant to say was the Gripen NG in which case lol it's more expensive than the F-35.
See this is the problem with people like you, you vote based on issues you know fuck nothing about. This is why your country is being ran by a pot smoking drama teacher.
To keep the geese under control YOU'RE WELCOME.
>This is why your country is being ran by a pot smoking drama teacher
but he's soooooo hot and it's 2015+1
Did we lose? I don't think so. And btw, good job you've done in Afghanistan. 14 years of war between a superpower and some terrorists resulting in nothing :^)
Le quality bait? You don't even do anything to stop IS.
>it's modern enough
No it isn't. Switzerland didn't even want them, the Czechs hate theirs.
If a country that hasn't been at war for 500 years and an impoverised post communist country of ten million people thinks it's shit now why the fuck do you think it's an acceptable fighter for a G-7 nation to fly for the next 50 fucking years?
Incidentally, it's only 15 million dollars cheaper than the F-35. Are you fucking insane?
>14 years of war between a superpower and some terrorists resulting in nothing :^)
Like hell it didn't. The dune coons stopped attacking us and started attacking your ally over in Syria.
Surely you must have noticed.
>Canada doesn't need, and can't afford top of the line equipment
Norway can, Denmark can, Holland can, Belgium can, Australia can, Israel can.
And as I've pointed out there are no cheaper options, in fact it is LITERALLY the cheapest modern western fighter aircraft. Period. That is what fucking planes cost.
They have stopped attacking you because you recalled your troops from there? I can even remember an American helicopter get shot down in 2014. The crew have all died.
Why would we fucking pay for airplanes when we don't even give a shit about going to war? Why would we buy them for defense when we live next door to you mongs? It'd be a waste of money, and we're already wasting enough of that on bringing in 50k fucking Syrian refugees asl;kgthasldkghas
Again, then don't fucking have an air force at all.
All your half assed lefty solutions are going to do are someday get a good man killed because assholes like you stuck him in an obsolete aircraft.
Either have jets that work or don't fly them, it will make it easier for us to annex your pussy ass faggot country anyway.
>be new zealand air force
>have NO fighter jets
>be new zealand army
>have NO tanks
>be new zealand navy
>have NO destroyers
>have NO aircraft carriers
>have TWO frigates
Yeah I'm sure need top of the line jets to bomb sandniggers living in tents and fucking fallout 4 shacks. God knows it'd be a death sentence for one of our guys to get in a dog fight with their non-existent airforce.
have to PAY OUT OF POCKET
for BASIC HEALTHCARE if they don't buy insurance
Fine then, let's go with your plan and buy a slightly cheaper obsolete aircraft. Where the fuck do you intend to get parts for the next 50 years? No one will be making them.
You know what happens when you put pilots on a flying bonb traveling at mach 1.5 with parts held to together with magic dust and happy thoughts? It crashes and the pilot fucking dies.
Embarrassing. At least we won our pointless war in Afghanistan
Who cares? More of our people died in the middle east due to your retard soldiers friendly fire than from sandniggers, and none died from plane malfunctions.
Maybe you should worry about teaching your people the difference between allies and enemies before you go worrying about our jet plane situation in Canada.
>he needs to buy insurance from a company to get a checkup at a clinic
Yes, it's illegal to not have insurance. And considering you get free insuranca if you're poor the only reason not to have it is either laziness or you're running from someone (the law.)
What goalposts? You have been thuroughly, utterly, BTFO on every single pants on head retarded point you've attempted to make.
The goalpost remains exactly the same: either buy an aircraft that isn't obsolete, or do not buy aircraft at all. Pretending that Canada is a real country is not an valid reason for your idiot ass plans.
> bring army to a country
> do nothing, lose some troops and vehicles
> after 14 years take the troops away
> call that victory and be proud of it
American are so funny at being patriotic.
nothing wrong with that, we excel at winter warfare
Sure thing samefag.
You mean the argument about whether or not the F-35 was a super expensive modern fighter? The one that was proven as demonstrably false?
Or was it the argument about just sticking with rhw 40 year old airframe for the next 50 years that is factually impossible to maintain for that amount of time?
Pick your poision really you're BTFO on both counts.
>Do what I say for some reason even though I'm a literal nobody with zero power or actual knowledge on anything but I for some reason speak for my government and your military
>> greatest superpower of all time
The collapse of the USSR was a mistake...
i hope you become great again, i want to see butthurt from the west
>Be Australian military
>Only have 59 tanks
can NOT make this shit up
>his country lets american warships into its ports
The US is dumb enough to patrol the entire Canadian border with their own helicopters.
If you've ever been near the border you'd see this. Even the fallls are patroled by the US, and literally 5 people have ever crossed that, three of which died in a barrel.