This is a flag to celebrate the amazing country that is Serbia.
Post everything Serbian and discuss this great country.
I'll start by saying they have amazing qts and their flag is one of the most aesthetic flags of all time.
>that feel when Clinton bombed them for no good reason
NATO bombed them because our corrupt politicians were pushing their agenda. See>>53497053
As an average American I have absolutely nothing against Serbia and really like them, I hope no Serbs have hard feelings against Americans, it was our shit politicians who did it
The one in the purple is so cute I want to marry her this very moment.
Ugh! I fucking love Serbian women. That olive skin can make you either white or not is the best color and makes my dick diamonds.
that's bait, there is no way someone can be so retarded
join the serbian army
/r/ing moar pics of grills in uniform
There was a Serbian diaspora in Finland but he never EVER posted pro-Serb stuff or anything, always neutral. Seems like Finland influenced him a lot kek.
I just collect strong independent waifus m8, pls contriboot
another 50 years at least, maybe 25 if China can stop crashing its stock market.
Its just a personal preference. I never said Serbia < Croatia, I just prefer Croatia's flag and religion.
I hope China will have a personal preference for your family when they start rapping you people
>I just prefer Croatia's flag and religion
>hurr durr Orthodox and Catholics are galaxies away different because they celebrate Christmas 2 weeks apart
Not to mention some Orthodox actually are fully aligned with the Gregorian calendar nowadays
>Serbian calls out bait
>falls for it anyway
>This triggers Tudjman and Alija
pic related, Klime's reaction to this thread
because their understanding of Poland is either very deep and they make jokes about the Deluge or very shallow and they know it as "The country that got fucked by Germany"
thankfully its really only guys who do it, qts don't care much.
no I have a healthy amount of qt friends
why are you so agressive I didn't even try to bait you
I'm watching a very good BBC documentary about the wars and basically if Albos in Kosovo weren't shitting on Serbs there in the first place none of what followed would have happened
The serbs in bosnia and croatia would somehow peacefully accept becoming minorities in their new countries because several hundred km to the east some albanians decided to play it cool? o.0
No, it wouldn't, the whole point of Kosovo is that it's >muh greater Serbia
I think that the only reason that the Serb even attacked us was to mobilize forces for the inevitable invasion of Bosnia and Croatia
This coming from a Croat... ffs
Slovenia, Croatia and the bosnian muslims were itching for independence for decades. Heard of croatian spring? The constitution of '74? When the berlin wall fell and communism, the glue that held yugoslavia together, imploded, there was nothing that could have kept yugoslavia together, save for a large military intervention I guess. The slovenes, who seceded first, refused to accept any kind of federal solution, so there was no helping it politically.
Oh but, it's really hip to blame the muslims for everything these days, isn't it?
I'm not implying that though, I tried explaining what this American guy wanted to say.
Unfortunately that still isn't the case, the wars would have happened either way, not just because of Kosovo, but much internal differences, opinion-wise.
Albos were stirring shit for decades there with "low-level terrorism", you know the same kind of shit that nowadays happens in immigrant ghettos in Europe where "insert native ethnicity" moves out because as immigrant numbers grow it gets more and more impossible to live with them. The same thing happened here as well in areas where Albos are majority now.
But it was just one element that contributed to rise of extreme Serbian nationalism.
I don't think JNA had the means to pull of a coup, what with the mass desertions of non-serbs and this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Barracks
That was probably for the better, no one would have enjoyed being the argentina of europe.
To quote my mum
>If we forcibly removed all those lazy, cowardice, good for nothing shits that sold their homes to Albanians from their new flats and government jobs in Belgrade, the whole war would have been avoided.
It's been a while since I've read up on that, guess you could be right. But I seriously doubt anything could have stopped the rise of nationalism. To nationalists, a flag and a name on the world map is more than worth shedding blood and ruining your economy. That goes for every ethnicity in yugoslavia.
>That goes for every ethnicity in yugoslavia.
True but that didn't happen for nothing, you know how the story goes, the same shit happened here.
My grandparents lived in one of the shqip neighborhoods and they always had problems.
Are you implying you're inoccent lil sunshines? You just got off easy this time is all, you were just as prepared to slaughter others in the name of your country as anyone else. Your current rhetoric isn't far from it.
Well they didn't completely get away from it all.
Every former yugoslav republic had their share of conflict, whether it was a war that lasted 10 days, or a bombing campaign by NATO. at the end of the day, everyone lost.
>you were just as prepared to slaughter others in the name of your country as anyone else
pretty sure my answer would be "no" to this one
>Your current rhetoric isn't far from it.
I've yet to figure out what exactly the Slovenes did to prosper so much in Europe, to appear in the top of HDI charts, lists of developed countries, even beating some first world countries, literally being Finland tier for such a small, should-be-irrelevant country. I'm jelly too tbh fam. What's their secret?
>What's their secret?
They belonged to the better empire.
And then what's going to happen? A huge balkanized clusterfuck of 100 independent states?
>vacation trip to bulgarian beaches
>have to drive through the disgusting 3. world country serbia
>literally all houses are either destroyed or badly damaged
>bullet holes everywhere
>gypsies trying to scam you
>gypsies invade your car, wash your windows even though they were clean and you didn't ask for it
>windows now dirty because they probably use water from a fucking pond
>give them 2 euros so they don't wreck my car and run away
>get stopped while driving in the freeway
>disgusting subhuman serb cop wants me to drive to the next police station, which is 10 km in the opposite direction
>give him 20 euros and and a coke
>lets me pass
I fucking hate Serbia, they are irrelevant, small and fucking annoying whenever you want to drive to bulgaria
Don't get me wrong, I'm not cheering for it. But I think it's more than likely. RSK will probably end up like some kinda bigger kosovo, wanting to join serbia but not being able to. The rest of bosnia will probably see a rise in nationalism and a possible croat-muslim conflict. We can probably expect foreign muslims to add to the fun. Can't fucking wait...
Bosnia is an artificial creation the likes of which are seen in Africa because of colonialism.
Still don't know why "we" couldn't just split them and leave a bit for the muslims.
Now it's just destined to either collapse or become Africa tier and drag us all down further.
I am kinda thinking they'll allow Serbia to get RS as a "compensation" for Kosovo and make them shut up on that one.
Otoh that'll surely make the Bosniaks mad (radicalized) if they allow it to pass.
>make a post just to jerk off Serbs so they can pretend they don't live in a third world shithole
>still manage to get butthurt and embarrass themselves
That was the plan (pic relevant), but you got greedy. Tho desu, we weren't thrilled with the prospect of serbia some 50km from karlovac either.
We had our share of sins, but we were independant way before oluja. All we did was stabilize the state. And it's not like we didn't try to solve the situation peacefully: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z-4_Plan
And don't play dumb, you got bombed because you cause FOUR wars in like 8 years.
Implying Poturice aren't radicalizing already.
Also, real talk, we should just let the Albos go but they need to give up the North and the churches (and some 500m perimeter around the churches so we can build walls).
No use in trying to integrate 1,8 mil savages
>Implying Poturice aren't radicalizing already.
idk although just yesterday I read on Reuters there were arrests there for some IS related stuff
As for the rest, true. It might be painful but you got the tumor cut off at least. Look at us, we still have it and it's only growing. Just a matter of time before it all blows up. I can only hope I can gtfo before that happens.
No way. Even today, kosovars are pretending like unification with albania isn't their ultimate goal, and it's been how many years already? Only loose cannons and the lolstate of russia would push for that.
>kosovars are pretending like unification with albania isn't their ultimate goal
But it is, and in practice they are going towards that more and more every year.
As for why they haven't been allowed to outright join, I'm not sure, perhaps to keep the charade of "international law" and crap like that. And especially now after all the shit in Ukraine.
But the box has been opened, and there's no going back.
Problem is, our politicians are instead trying to make a Serb region out of the North within Kosovo, and the Albanians are chimping out about it, but the EU is (for once) on the side of Pussylips.
All the drinking water in Pristina comes from Serbia, but no one has the balls to close the pipes and make them compromise.
>All the drinking water in Pristina comes from Serbia, but no one has the balls to close the pipes and make them compromise.
Because if you do that, you're encouraging dozens of regional conflicts to flare up. Catalonia, basque country, northern ireland, ukraine, transnistria... Besides, why would you anger russia for no good reason?
I think this is the only logical solution. I've always wondered why you didn't try this sooner.
My guess is albania doesn't wanna deal with the political backlash, because no one will condone this, except for maybe some muslim states. International sanctions are no joke for such a small economy. Kosovars probably also prefer a capital in priština rather than tirana. Also, it just may lead to war over northern kosovo.
I am not sure. As I said, they might want to have the excuse that "everything is done according to international law...blah blah...no outright annexation and border changes..." and so forth.
Not sure if it plays any role but the resolution on Kosovo is still in place by the UN which considers Kosovo to be Serbian territory albeit under their (UN) administration. So from that POV it'll be as Albania annexing Kosovo, even if they are voting for it, just like the West sees it in the case of Crimea.
Also these very much.
He's not asking about UN, but why the albanians don't simply unify, UN or no UN. And the answer is that the international community can shread a small economy to pieces with sanctions. It's just not worth it for now.
Nah, in that case we should just dig in to where our claims are and sack Pristina.
Just give the north and the churches and they can fuck off to albania or independence or the un whatever the fuck they want.
The only time i cared was at the Unesco debate, and we won there.
>And the answer is that the international community can shread a small economy to pieces with sanctions.
They'll never vote for sanctions, pic somewhat related.
After a few decades of independance, they'll have a strong argument that it's their right to unify. Unless they decide they wanna be a nation of their own, like moldova. Lol in that case.
>basically just an /ex-yu/ thread in english with occasional american shitposts
>serious discussion from croats and serbs
Pretty cool. I find the lack of Serb qts posted to be disturbing though
Probably because you're doing it all in English, which I appreciate since it's very educational. I had absolutely no idea how shitty stuff still is politically there because I can't read anything in your damn generals.
Now everyone must post one picture of a qt from their country before they can go back to their discussion. I know everyone has some on their computers
We are in line for splitting up too.
That's what I meant though.
Why don't you all agree to just split Bosnia and Kosovo and let the muslim portions fuck off and join Albania and leave everyone alone?
Republika Srpska can join Serbia like would make sense.
A lot of our cultural heritage lies on the muslim parts. They've taken everything from us and now the only part that remains is the small chunk in the north.
This would be easily solved if the faggots in our government manned up and stopped doing this retarded cuck business. They think that by licking the ass of the west things are somehow going to favor us in the future.
Fucking cut their water off and stop all relations with the Kosovo government since we don't even recognize them in the first place. It's a known fact that they're not going to let us into the EU or even side with us, no matter how hard we try.
afaik, Bosniaks (the muslim guys from Bosnia) want a centralized state instead of the federal one they have now, and the people living in the country to pledge loyalty to Bosnia instead of one of the neighboring countries (Serbia/Croatia). Obviously Serbs and Croats in Bosnia are less inclined to do so and would rather join their homelands instead.
As for Kosovo, they want the whole thing, which includes the northern piece of Kosovo where Serbs are majority. Serbs ofc, don't want anything to do with Albanians at all.
> It's a known fact that they're not going to let us into the EU or even side with us
I think the same. They are just stringing you along to play the game. There is no way they'll let a country that could possibly act as a "Russian trojan horse" in.
You think everyone here likes each other except for the muslims? Lol no.
Bosnian muslims are the largest ethnic group in bosnia, so no can do. At least not without a war, and we've had enough of those. Besides, bosnians are alright.
Because most of us aren't savages, and in 50 or so years, when shit calms down, we'll learn to live in peace despite our ethnic differences, just like the belgians, the swiss and many others have learned to do?
Yeah, but remember that was before 9/11 and now this ISIS shit and the immigration stuff.
Give it a little more time and a few more rapes my "refugees" and no one will give a shit about muslims anymore.
So you could get your Kosovo at least back and no one would be mad.
If Bosnians are cool muslims then leave them be, they have qts there.
The only one that's an active problem is the kosovo issue, all others issue are only potential problems. And if we finally learn to respect minorities and realize it's better to live in a stable and prosperous country, even as a minority, rather than wage war for a fucking change on a map, we'd be golden. Personally, I think the way britain handled the scotland issue was the height of civilization. Not an ounce of violence in the whole thing. It's really an ispiration.
Of course, for now this is the kind of ppl that are in the majority. The kind that prefers to take someone's life rather than tone down the nationalist crap.
>belgians, the swiss and many others have learned to do?
I don't think this will be possible after so much conflict and tribalism...unless our youth goes full liberal and all our nationalities and historical disputes just become trivial
>They are just stringing you along to play the game.
This. I honestly have no idea how Vucic even got elected. He is wasting all our money on "bettering relations" in hopes of the EU even considering to let us in.
Like just recently the guy gave a few million euros to Srebrenica for rebuilding, even after he came to visit and ended up being stoned.
Not to mention how our paychecks and pensions are getting cut because he is financing progressive things such as security for the "Pride Parade"
Our country is a joke right now
This was never about religion, it's an ethnic conflict. Neither albanians nor bosnians are radical. In fact, I'd say they're just about the most secular muslim nations. That'll probably change for worse, but hopefully only temporarily.
>And if we finally learn to respect minorities and realize it's better to live in a stable and prosperous country, even as a minority, rather than wage war for a fucking change on a map, we'd be golden
Good luck with that. If you ask me I'd kick the shiptars instantly pic related, they can take it with them, build a GIANT WALL on the border, impose visas and never let them in again, EVER.
>Of course, for now this is the kind of ppl that are in the majority.
"this kind of people" are called croatians. if you want to be serbian and be butthurt about every little thing in croatia go to serbia and live with your kind fucking shiteater
Yeah, right, your pensions are getting lowered to finance gay parades. One hell of a parede that must be.
I think the EU would much rather take in serbia than the likes of turkey or morocco. All you gotta do is improve economically and politically, whichi I think you're doing. When europe is ready for another expansion, you'll probably be the first candidates.
You gotta help clear something up for me.
You're all from the same part of the country, you're all Slavs, you all essentially speak the same language.
How are you different? What makes a Croat a Croat and a Serb a Serb other than religion or language?
It seems like you were killing people over names, or some shit
Albanians are people too (sort of). I think splitting Kosovo with Serbia would satisfy Serbians at least a bit, without antagonizing Albanians too much (and without "removing")! I think that would be a pragmatic and long term solution, but not many agree.
Bosnia is a different issue, muslims want a centralized state where muslims make the decisions and Serbs don't want that, they want out.
>Also the noun is croats, and no, thank god we're not all like you.
>he is still ashamed to admit he is serb even on internet
>Yeah, right, your pensions are getting lowered to finance gay parades. One hell of a parede that must be.
I'm talking about security, not the parade itself. Also it was just a single example, there are a lot more things our money is going to waste on.
>All you gotta do is improve economically and politically, whichi I think you're doing.
The problem is they are not going to let us in if we don't recognize Kosovo first
How do we join the EU with a part of our nation that they don't consider as ours? How would the borders of the EU be projected, with or without Kosovo?
We're not exactly from the same part of the country. Apart from bosnia, parts of croatia and vojvodina, the populations are quite heterogenous.
I dunno man. The same as the difference between colombians and venezualans, I guess? Ethnicity is a very complicated thing. In our case, religion is obviously the big factor, but that doesn't mean we killed for religion. Our ethnicity was to a part defined by religion, because you don't have orthodox croats nor catholic serbs. But it was ethnicity itself that was the cause of the conflict, not religion. So yeah we killed ppl over names.
Nothing. Some serbians and muslims in bosnia killed each other during the war and post mortem dna analysis showed they were cousins.
We're just slavs with 3 different religions. And we killed each otherecause of that. Silly, isn't it.
I meant to say continent, not country, sorry.
When you say it's like Colombians and Venezuelans it makes tons more sense. Probably like a Canadian and an American. Even though they're basically the same they'll swear they're not.
true, but throughout all of history Austrians and Germans have gone above and beyond just simple "colonisation" and have actively gone out of their way to be the worst people in the history of humanity.
Religion and by-proxy names.
I could for example tell that Hasanovic would obviously be muslim/Bosniak. But I really don't know how Croats and Serbs differentiated each other. Croats have some surnames like Horvat or Novak but the majority end up in -ic, the same as Serbs. Some specific names like Josip, Karlo or Franjo are specific to Croatians and some would be specific to Serbs but I am pretty sure most are the same.
it's a nice song :3
Yeah, that's just it. Ethnicity is just a name, an imaginary concept thas sometimes does, but often doesn't entail large cultural differences. But it's hella real to the people themselves, real enough to kill over.
I was reading about Belgrade and how it's really not that bad and has lots of charm but because of memes and western propaganda basically people think it's shit and don't go.
Sounds like you could go there and experience a lot and not have to deal with the usual tourist shit you would in the more popular places, which is great imo
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I'm biased because I live in Belgrade, but i think it has certain charisma. People are very friendly (to americans too) and curious about foreigners (years of isolation do that to you), girls are pretty, food and alcohol cheap. Come see it if you're ever in balkans.
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