This refugee crisis is all America's fault, if you weren't so bloodthirsty and creating wars in the middle east for your own benefit this would have never happened
idiot, we bombed iraq in 2003 how come you didn't invite in them then? or in 1991? or the 2001 invasion of afghanistan?
how come when we bombed yugoslavia it was germany that bought up all their industry and invited none of their refugees in then? what is the difference between the european muslim and the arabic muslim?
now it's our fault, convenient, no?
preach to someone else
You bombed them and made them homeless, made them refugees and now we got to take care of them, you literally created this problem. And to top it all off you won't even accept any immigrants your whole attitude is "lel yurop can handle this and I'll just keep bombing them to steal their oil lel"
America is the worst thing to happen to the world in the last 2000 years
it's an aryan ubermensch thing tyrone, let me explain
>Me ams aryans
>Me ams perfect
>Me ams never make mistake
>If me ams bad, it isn't me ams fault, it someone else fault!
>Me am ubermensch, me am no need of taking responsability.
This is why they wage wars they lose non-stop, it's because they're uncivilized as fuck.
>Inb4 butthurt werhmaboos.
we bombed countless countries
you picked out the most convient one for propaganda purposes
starving homeless people are everywhere in asia and in africa, you could have taken in the rohingyas who actually are really homeless but no you have to "show up" to us
the choice to choose radicals was up to you, we only do what we always do
If you didn't bomb them in the first place there would be no need to take in anyone, can't you get this through your thick layer of fat around your skull? Why do you have to take the whole world hostage to fatten the pockets of your oligarchy? Leave us the fuck alone, mess with your own backyars
This essay was written in 2003 and shows how american foreign policy foreshadows isis
America tries to fix the world but they can't even fix Detroit
you didn't take them in before
this is what you will never understand
the need was always there since the end of the cold war after the formation of the unified germany, during any of those times we could have taken refugees in, there are always starving homeless children
why is the bombing of iraq is so special?
why is the thickness the layer of the fat around my skull so important?
why is the world hostage crisis only so apparent now, in the year 2015?
what is that compared to dafur or rwandan genocide, a former german colony no less, what is the worth of their life vs the lives of those refugees in germany now
pls you will never win this
Why do you insist on using the word "need"? We never had to take anyone in and thus this shit is the last thing anyone needed.
Just face the fact that you and I live in countries that got fooled by the idea that we could give war torn people humantarian aid by inviting them here rather than helping them out in their own countries.
IIRC they chose to fucking dilute the Iraqi army, which was very strong, instead of using it to control the havoc from the invasion.
There was literally no government.
It was pure anarchy when Saddam fell.
People looted government buildings and there was nobody to stop them. The American soldiers wouldn't do anything because it wasn't their business that someone is stealing a TV from the ministry of transportation.
There were buildings burning for weeks and weeks since there was no firefighters, police or paramedics.
What a fucking disaster.
Merkel condoned all this. She wanted her anti nazi pat on the head from her international peers, telling everyone from third world shitholes that she'll take care of them. She somehow didn't think they'd empty out of their own shitholes to find a cozy welfare funded home.
Germany took in refugees ever since it was formed, especially during the Yugoslavia wars, which was also an American fault, but we say nothing, then you start stirring up shit in the middle east and you stirred it so badly millions are coming now when that wasn't the case before, you literally made the situation so bad with your bloodthirstiness that millions upon millions are coming now. People have always complained about American bloodthirsty imperialism but now it's just reaching a boiling point, the world has enough of your shitty oligarchy
Yes we need because it's not direct forcing but indirectly, America put them there and says "whatever, your problem now" and if we reject them they go drown in the sea and we can't say it's not our problem because this is our backyard
> Germans explicitly say they will never allow another genocide in Europe
> They allow another genocide to happen nearby and do literally nothing
> it's all America's fault
God damn nigger, you're stupid as fuck/
>you willingly yet let mudslimes into your country
>they rape and steal
>this is america's fault
maybe you shouldn't let hordes of military aged men from a 3rd world war torn country into your country
The bigger coward is you, creating so many widows and destruction but after that you're not brave enough to take care of them or even admit it's your fault
Ofc it's not your fault, it's their fault for being Muslim right
You realize refugees from Iraq have been coming to Europe/America since 91'?
Most of them are actually.
Somalia, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Sudan, and Pakistan are the majority of the migrants.
Kind of hard to just let them starve.
If America was in Europe, I expect Obama would have done something similar.
Of course Germany could have been heartless and logical, but the cries of YOU NAZI make German politicians fearful.
Always yes, and took care of them but never so many and it's blatantly obvious who wanted to make the Arab spring and who is to blame for its failure
Sure, but it wasn't them who bombed them and steal their oil and start sectarian conflicts in the name of democracy, get real
america has nothing to do with kosovars, pakistanis, bangladeshians, somalis and god knows who else becoming migrants
they also have nothing to do with "fugees welcomes" attitude
i see your media is still parrotting poor dindunuffin refugees propaganda
even IF they are ALL refugees and only from Afganistan, Iraq and Syria i suggest you look up their population and tell me how is it reasonable for all of them moving to yurop
wake up hans
>Ofc it's not your fault, it's their fault for being Muslim right
Yes. If Muslims weren't such violent savages there wouldn't be this problem, if Europeans weren't such cucks they wouldn't take them, just because America added on to it doesn't mean it's not Muslims and Europeans fault as well.
>after that you're not brave enough to take care of them
we spent a decade, billions of dollars, and many lives trying to rebuild their countries and bring them into the 21st century. They would rather keep killing each other and everyone else over stupid shit until the heat-death of the universe, fuck them.
We have been actively involved in destabilizing most of the countries you just listed.
Also, most "refugees" are actually from Syria/Iraq/Afghanistan/Pakistan/Libya. The countries we bombed to fuck or invaded.
It's not all our fault but we played our part in destabilizing the region.
We stuck our dick in the beehive, cummed everywhere, and pulled out without closing up the hole.
But that doesn't mean it's all our fault.
Cuck leader Merkel made the decision to let in a couple million. Poland decided to let in a few thousand.
Screaming on 4chan isn't going to do anything. Vote Merkel and her ilk out.
OH please look who is talking this little version of nazi germany 2.0, your whole country foreign policy is playing the victim and actively promoting hate speech against non-jews
IS created itself and the Arab spring is a false Flag by martians
you don't care enough to do anything
you don't even make the slightest effort to stop USA's foreign endeavors.
When it was revealed that the NSA tapped merkel and all of her top politicians phones you didn't even do anything.
the whole refugee acceptance thing is just a silent protest against the US as you see USA as evil war maniacs and view your selves as benevolent and kind so you accept all these shitskins to seem progressive.
Five German firms providing some machinery that manufactures base components of mycotoxin supposedly for use in health programs, isn't exactly Germany supplying Iraq with chemical weapons.
Iraq just utilizied the equipment for chemical weaponry.
The US literally provided Iraq with Chemical weapons though. Botulism, Sarin, West Nile Virus, etc.
We are responsible for prolonging it. But so are Turkey, the Gulf States, and Europe.
If you didn't let them in this would never have happened you pussy
My whole point in this thread is that we are one of the main contributors to the current refugee crisis, but not the sole one.
German autist thinks we are the only one.
Places like Sweden are allowed to complain though because they are not in NATO.
I listed 5 countries and your anecdotal experience in Hungary isn't necessarily representative of who Germany gets.
America has never ever ever fought a war in the Mideast for our own benefit. Fuck off. What benefits did the average American see taking down the Taliban or Saddam Hussein?
You just want to think that middle easterners are poor children with no agency and everything is Americas fault.
>how would that make germany look?
Like a sane reasonable country. Sure, you'd catch some flak for it from the libcucks in the media, but it'd eventually be forgotten about when they find some other stupid cause to latch on to. You could have laughed at your neighbors as they ruined their countries with mudslimes, but you just had to try to win the cuck contest yourselves.
Well when we bombed the Serbs to bits and created the shitholes of Kosovo and Bosnia, we led to chronically instable countries in that region that constantly have people fleeing the poverty in them.
Serbia and Bosnia and Kosovo can't join the EU and NATO because of their massive underlying political problems. America (and NATO) really fucked up in settling those issues in 1999 and so we are at fault.
>let me tell you about your country
Really? Because I'm Christian and live here, now what faggot? I hate Muslims because I deal with them on a regular basis and they deserve everything they get. Only the biggest retarded Muslim faggot would claim Israel hates none Jews while defending Muslims who all treat their Christians worse then Jews ever could. Also ironic you bring up hitler, who loved Islam and they were all happily allied with him. Stay uneducated and cucked leftist trash.
Ok stop crying pussy. No one forced you to take any refugees, it's only german retarded idea and your people fault for voting left.
And now you try to force refugees on other countries, just to take whole Europe with you to the grave, nice.
I think the refugee crisis would be even worse if Germany did not let them in.
You would just have millions of illegal migrants in ghettos and tent camps throughout Europe instead of 100 thousand.
Germany solved the migrant crisis outside of Germany by taking the problem in.
A lot of people care, for a supposed nation born on immigrants you don't even want to take in ones you create yourself
Sweden hasn't the same history as germany
Our history is what makes us looks bad though, and this immigrant thing is not something that can go backwards, it's like spilled milk. Milk spilled by America.
And you already had a Palestinian refugee Isis member try to commit terror in Houston and an Iraqi Isis member try to do the same in California somewhere. Taking any Muslims is always bad.
>invade iraq to kill a dictator
>have troop there to oversee reconstruction
no america that's evil you must leave the ME
>it descends into chaos with no american over sight
no america why didn't you finish the job this is all your fault america
It all started when Italians and Greek cucks started saving rapefugees boats coming to Europe.
Normal countries would simply turn them around or shoot the boats, and then none of this shit would happen.
SJW Bernie and Clinton are promising 40-50k annually.
Obama gets a free pass from our media even though he only let in 500 since 2011.
You have no way of knowing the makeup of who enters Germany based upon the flow that entered your shithole.
UN stats show that 60-70% of the refugees are from "refugee" places. Syria/Iraq/Libya/Pakistan/Afghanistan.
Want the source?
Germany's actions obviously made everything even worse. People don't even care if they are getting here illegally.
Human traffickers are laughing all the way to the bank at the refugee crisis.
You opened your doors of your own volition while other European countries slammed them shut. Nobody made you do anything. Your new Muslim population is 100% your own fault and you have no excuses. Now take responsibility and live with it.
>muh all immigrants are the same and share the same beliefs
>muh America is evil
Did America create all the Africans screaming money running in Europe? Did America bomb morocco? Did America force Muslims to rape? Did America make you the micro penis propaganda buying retard you are?
Better to be honest. You would show the world you have a backbone. Right now your just taking in refugees to avoid being called racist and give yourself a warm and fuzzy 'progressive' feeling.
It's biting you in the ass and the rest of the planet see's it. And we are laughing.
It's not a matter of us being ashamed, we accept this past, but because of shit like this stirred up by US you bring it up, because you won't stop messing with other countries around the world for your oligarchy
Yes because you can round up millions of unruly islamic people and ship them back to Syria/shithole of origin.
As expected of an Israeli.
You forget the part where they said don't invade in the first place.
The right wing of Germany (Bavaria) purposefully made a mess of it. It was smart of them because this weakens the cuck right wing and left wing parties.
Just like West Germany turned around Polish refugees in 1945-1990?
>So where would the refugees go if Germany said no?
Jordan, Lebanon, Turkey, Saudi Arabia. You know, the Arab countries literally right next to Syria. This is Muslim infighting, let them deal with it.
The refugee crisis was growing 2011-2014. It was already pretty huge before Germanh went full cuckmode and changed their refugee laws in early 2015.
Maybe Germany incentivized a few more to come, but the flow was already as large as it is now in March (when Germany changed their policy to cuckmode).
I personally dislike the policy, but I simply want to get the facts straight.
>Yes because you can round up millions of unruly islamic people and ship them back to Syria/shithole of origin.
Yes you can, we did exactly that during the Eisenhower administration when over a million Mexicans were living here illegally.
Oh yes because the Gulf States (US allies) accepted how many?
Your people fled Poland in 1939 to Western Europe and 1945-1990 and are now economic migrants 1990-2010.
Muslim countries are poor or Islamic. These people chose Europe because it is a good place.
>Just like West Germany turned around Polish refugees in 1945-1990
>just some years ago they tried to eradicate our whole population
Anyway I talked with polish "refugees", as I was in Germany one year ago. They all had to immigrate illegaly, run from the police and shit.
They didn't get invited, they didn't get free iphone12, they didn't get any apartment and blonde pussy for free, like the "refugees" do. So I don't feel any sad about germans getting fucked.
What's the matter facts hurt Ahmad? Too bad I'm a Russian Christian living here shitskin. And I'm way more anti Muslim then most Israelis you'll ever meet. Now off yourself like your friends tried to do in the states.
>The refugee crisis was growing 2011-2014
a real refugee who is fleeing war would go to a nearby countries border and either live in a refugee camp or settle in the new country
the only reason "refugees" are going to germany is the incentive of welfare that's being promised.
if no european countries promised welfare there would be alot fewer refugees sneaking into europe.
These are not poor familys looking for a new life and become germans hans. That's the difference.
Looking at the numbers, you are letting in huge numbers of military aged males who come from (by western standards) radical Islamic nations. They are coming for the wonderful welfare state.
>Could have just not taken in refugees
>This refugee crisis is all America's fault
And most of those countries ARE TOTALLY SAFE ATM, they're not refugees. How can you be so naive and totally cucked Germany? I know that your women want nigger dick but the men too..?
>Muslim countries are poor or Islamic. These people chose Europe because it is a good place.
You are pretty retarded, m8.
Well, so We could take whole Middle East to Germany or America if it's so bad. Well, they could go to rich Saudi Arabia and it's vassals around, but no, these countries don't let others to leech on them, or it's simply an invasion on Europe.
The middle/lower classes of Germans. Aka the ones who don't vote for the CDU.
Mexicans are not islamic people fleeing war.
The refugees you get are not representative of the whole. 60-70% of refugees are from places considered legally "refugee countries" per UNHCR stats.
Oddly enough I'm white and Christian. I simply think there is a lack of facts and cause and effect in this thread.
Maybe so, but we didn't force you to let those chimps into your country or pay them for being social parasites.
Mutti literally could have forced Greece and Bulgaria to guzzle Arab cock per EU asylum laws and spared your country from what happened in Köln, but she didn't because "muh rapefugees".
>The refugees you get are not representative of the whole. 60-70% of refugees are from places considered legally "refugee countries" per UNHCR stats.
How could you know? Most of them have no ID-cards to prove their origins.
Somaliland is safe, Southern Iraq is safe, Afghanistan is safe if you're a muslim male. There are millions and millions of real refugees in the world and you want to fuck our economies with these tourists?
Nobody ever listens to us until the damage is done. But we always see things coming and always have the solution.
Millions of refugees live in Muslim countries bordering Syria/IraqAfghanistan/Pakistan/Somalia.
Those places are full.
You know who had that will?
Gotta admit they got rid of Jews in Europe.
Germans probably could do it again with Muslims?
But there is no will. The EU isn't just Germany.
Why do Canadians put the verb believe in front of facts?
If Germany had not taken them in you'd still have a massive refugee crisis.
No they really are not.
But I agree that many should be deported since 30-40% of refugees are in no way refugees.
>But we always see things coming and always have the solution.
So the solution is to riot? Seemed to work out for pic related.
most German politicians are lapdogs of US, this crisis is what US wanted to happen,thus no wonder why American posters are agitating German's hatred toward refugees.
they created the problem, and are getting at violent solution to Germans and other Europeans.
Hundreds of thousands?
If true I stand corrected.
UNHCR stats still show 60-70% of these "refugees" being from refugee-nationality countries.
Nazis could do that. Do we want those again?
They have interpreters who ask them and can determine their origin by dialect/language.
This is what OP is getting at but failing miserably at saying. Germany warned against Iraq and Afghanistan and now is paying the price America deserves.
None of those places are safe.
Everyone knew that this was going to happen, the Finnish ministry of internal affairs urged Finnish municipalities to prepare for accommodating 80 000 refugees in May, this whole invasion was planned in advance.
We are the eternal anglo.
But seriously, nobody in America 2001-2011 thought we would fuck up shit so badly out there.
I don't think there was a conspiracy, but Obama is super happy that he doesn't get hounded by liberal media to take in more Syrians. Already had three ISIS attacks in the last year.
>most German politicians are lapdogs of US, this crisis is what US wanted to happen
Why the hell would we want this? we want the muzzies to stay in their own shitholes instead of infesting the rest of the planet
We have 47k refugees and Sweden 160k with less people. Because we try to demotivate refugees from coming here.
Plus we have been trying to push Europe for a solution for months now. Our government has suggested to pur camps outside or on the borders of Europe and people can only ask for refuge in their own country or the closest camp. If they enter Europe they get rejected. This would mean they have to stay in Turkey and border regions. And from there we can screen refugees and control their flow.
After that we proposed a mini-schengen to pressure countries like Greece to check their borders. But Germany refused.
And now we the European ministers talk in the Netherlands about a possible solution.
Afganistan is partly controlled by the Taliban and has attacks daily, and Southern Iraq just had another suicide bombing today. Only a year ago ISIS nearly overran cities surrounding Baghdad. Somlialand is an authoritarian Islamic shithole that thankfully has a functioning governent, though it's like calling Sudan safe.
You have descended to reductio ad hitlerum as expected. Seeing as you've irrevocably polluted the ability of this discourse to produce insight all I can do is join you in shit flinging
Suck my dick you harebrained insect
>If Germany had not taken them in you'd still have a massive refugee crisis.
The displaced people and the Middle East would have a refugee crisis, but Germany wouldn't. You brought this on yourselves.
>most German politicians are lapdogs of US
If that's meant to make people feel sorry for Germans you're not doing a very good job.
>None of those places are safe
Define "safe". Western European standards of safety (a thing of the past now thanks to millions of Muslims) are unrealistic. The only requirement is that an area not be in an active state of armed conflict. Southern Iraq is safe. Pakistan is safe. Saudi Arabia is safe. Turkey is safe. Jordan is safe. Lebanon is safe. So are Kuwait, Qatar, Oman, and Egypt. All of those places are much closer than Germany and Sweden and all of them are already Arab and Muslim. There is literally no reason for us to accept millions of incompatible people into our society.
Oh Sweden was expecting 200k. Not sure what their final numbers are.
Because we know where an Iraqi is from? Southern Iraq includes Ramadi and Fallujah yet those are ISIS lands.
Finbro said Afghanistan is safe. I disagree and you seem to as well.
Somaliala is a dictatorship barely better than Al-Shabbah Southern Somalia. With all the attacks by Al-Shabbah it is in no way safe.
I already acknowledged 30-40% of the migrants are not refugees and should be deported. But people somehow think solving the crisis is simply rounding them up and sending them "home."
>Because we know where an Iraqi is from?
What part of Iraq and Iraqi is from is irrelevant. The entire southeast of the country is free of ISIS and firmly under government control. There is no need for them to even leave the country, yet they travel all the way to Germany. They are not refugees, they are migrants looking for free stuff.
It's illegal to work here for refugees to protect the population from unfair competition. And its strictly regulated so illegals find it nearly impossible to find housing or work.
We dont sell our population out to people who dont even speak the language. Like the ones taking over your south.
But Somaliland is.Many people forget that many African countries are the source of refugees as well as a destination for refugees but since no one cares it's jsut swept under the brush.
>Also Somaliland is safer than most of the countires in the world.
The peace won't last, the longer it's denied statehood them ore thing will turn to shit because it can't do shit a state can and conflict in the region.
Most province in west indonesia would be more than happy to accept those refugees. But too bad this country is a 3rd world nation which most likely will not atteact those refugees. Moreover, the North Sumatra province has 65% protestant population. A lot of hunger strike have been done by south asian refugees regarding the lack of service and very bad condition in the refugees camp. Those refugees mostly are the ones who failed to reach Australia.
Our refugees also complain about the food. They blocked some road yesterday in protest. They want to be able to cook their own meals instead of having standard Dutch food.
But according "a panel" the food was considered "fine and of good quality". Was the official response.
If Americans and Jews were a mistake then sand niggers are some kind of unholy abomination worse then a plague. Americans and Jews accomplished so much more in just a couple hundred years then Muslim ever did (or will)
>Europe ruined our country with tolerance and degeneracy
Bruh that shit spawned in America.
Then you exported this diversity ideology to Europe, which doesn't work since we're not a melting pot made of immigrants.
you cant close your borders because you have no means to do so shitter
just a big mouth and delusion of somehow you know everything better
>be blown out of the sky by cossacks
"refugees" could just walk over you if we let them
Because the "racial hatred" part of Nazism is blown out of proportion.
Americans were more racist than nazi germany at the time.
We and Germany were the ones blocking the sanctions of Russia. We were also the ones who let them pass.
We also passed this:
We also stopped the artic drilling for Russia.
But we're still talking with Russia about getting the responsible people.
Jesus was a Jew and only retards would use that against Jews, since you know the whole purpose of Jesus was to die for our sins. That means without Jews you literally wouldn't have Christianity. Try being less uneducated about your own faith next time.
That's because you're retarded. If Jews didn't kill Jesus then he wouldn't fulfill the prophecy and on the cross he said "forgive them for they know not what they do"
That wouldn't even make sense if he died for our sins but not the ones he committed, at least think before you post and if you aren't religious in any way don't try to bring it up and end up looking uneducated. You're free to hate Jews all you want but at least pick a reason that makes sense.
I'm not? Didn't know posting knowledgable facts about Christianity is butthurt, thanks for letting me know Chang Ahmad of Toronto. I just hate retards who only shit post without at least being funny. The rules are be informative or funny, the rest of the posters here should fuck off.
Man you really are retarded.
1. Not Jewish, I'm Christian
2. Didn't "blame the victim" anywhere, try making a single post that isn't regurgitated memes from pol you uneducated fucktard
>Why are krauts basically kids?
Just noticing this now?
>no USA QUANTITATIVE EASING IS WRONG (because it would hurt the savers like us!)
>instead follow stupid ass austerity (while taking more german loans!)
>h-hey guys maybe we should ease monetary a bit? I mean look at USA. Market all time high, energy boom, jobs back, economy all time high, innovation booming, etc (plus you guys paid most of that debt back already now and our own growth is slowing and we need to export to USA)
Same thing as the migrants. Germany agreed to accept them because it made them to look less nazi AND shore up their population
Are you forgetting the retarded ideological nationalism attempt that caused the US to intervene in the first place and cemented Europe's place as a lower power from all of the damage done?
No, it's your fault for letting them in.
For one, they're economic migrants. They've already been through other safe countries that are actually closer in lifestyle and culture to their original country. Use your collective force to pressure other ME countries to harbor them.
Go fuck yourself Ahmed. You're blaming Germany, Spain, France, the UK's, etc. independent blunder on the wrongdoing of the US. Yeah, they wouldn't be migrating en masse but if you don't want them, tell them to go welfare leech somewhere else.
>the USA will fall to China in your lifetime
You realize that quickly if you do spend time around them
>Shits himself and passes out on a puddle of urine
>Wonders why we don't like them going out of the concentration zones