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>The European immigration crisis will probably settle, after border restrictions become tighter
>Canadians are lazy fucks who benefit off of the sweat of the US and Britain without doing anything in return
>India has more long-term potential than China
>Sweden's huge illegitimate birth rate is scarier than the immigration rate
>If we don't ensure secularism in the Middle East, there will never be peace
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Hey you stfu about Canada. We don't need you or this planet
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>>53458540
European posters are probably more autistic, obese and obnoxious then American posters.
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>I'm actually happy with good mannered refugees setting in my city
>I literally don't care about Europe's problems
>I am against organized governments, midias and elitists telling me what to think and how to behave
>PKK is not a terrorist organization
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india is beautiful

the refugee crisis is being blown out of proportion

nothing wrong with lgbtq+

a lot of africa is really cool

australian posters are not funny

islam is just as bad and good as any other major religion

argentina is white
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>>India has more long-term potential than China

How far in the future are you talking about? India is basically Africa tier.
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>>53458632
>India is basically Africa tier.
chiha was north korea tier in the late 80s
developement is a fast thing desu
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>>53458540
How do Canadians benefit off of US and UK? By reaping the benefits of Western global dominance secured by US and UK military might? Just a guess I'm legit curious.

>If we don't ensure secularism in the ME

How is this unpopular? It's the one thing liberals and conservatives can agree on. Liberals don't want the laws of magic sky faeries infringing on personal liberties and conservatives like it because it keeps salafist cockroaches out of power. I have no idea how you could think this is an unpopular opinion.
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>>53458560
come join us

become 10 new states
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>>53458623
>there is nothing wrong with feminism and gays
>I don't hate jews, but I hate Israel
>Kurds are the only one capable to bring up peace in the Middle East
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Normies are the lifeblood of this board. They are the wittiest, friendliest, and most insightful posters here.
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Jews are actually OK people.
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>>53458540
> illegitimate birth rate
You mean rape babies?
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>>53458672
>Implying China isn't still NK-tier outside the largest cities
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>>53458623
>>PKK is not a terrorist organization
IMO the PKK are some of the biggest "good guys" on the planet. I love their ideology and their struggle against ISIS, although their former tactics against the Turkish government were fucked up.

>>53458630
>a lot of africa is really cool
agreed

>islam is just as bad and good as any other major religion

IMO it's worse than Christianity or Judaism, but its harm is blown out of proportion
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>>53458672
it's not that it's how exactly India has more potential

China has larger territory and more resources
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>>53458700
tbqh
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>>53458700
t. normie
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>>53458632
India is just hugely striated. There are millions of Indians who live as comfortably as Westerners, even while the impoverished majority languishes in squalor.

Unlike China, India is a legitimate democracy whose government is very widely loved by its people. It's probably going to be a Western ally in the future, and a Western-backed conflict against China would end very well for India.
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There's nothing wrong with America sending money to Israel.
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Anglocanada just shouldn't exist, it's illegal country of occupants

Poland is greater than Germany ever will be

Litva/Latvia have the same legitimacy as DNR/LNR do
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>>53458716
>commies with their hands in heroin traffic
>pkk did nothing wrong
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>>53458686
I agree with this

Although "hate" is too strong for my thoughts on Israel. I just very strongly disprove of their policy of settlement and oppression.

>>53458711
Nah. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/13/health/13mothers.html

Hippy-dippy Nordic babies
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>>53458623
While I support the PKK's ideology and quest for Kurdish autonomy like this goy >>53458716 said they definitely have committed some terrorist activities. I mean any conflict is likely to inflict collateral civilian damage but the PKK has undoubtedly intentionally targeted civilians.
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>>53458700
Fuck off normie shill
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>jews have an individual tendency to be lefty but arent in any real conspiracy to bring us all down
>india is terribly underrated
>europeans dont know shit about our country, despite their rage about vice versa
>brits live in more of a bubble then we do
>the problem with islam is how arabs practice it, not just the ideology
>canadians are funny
>posts with anime make me think much less of the poster, even if its cute i cant help but think of the sad and strange little man behind the keyboard.
>people tend to cite statistics in place of any personal experiences they have on the topic, and thats stupid
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>>53458802
> bastards are illegitimate
> that's what Americans seriously believe
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>>53458759
>whose government is very widely loved by its people
Pajeet, my son. Get a clue.
India is fighting three major separatist insurgencies RIGHT NOW, all three of which are bankrolled by the Pakistani and Chinese intelligence agencies
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>>53458540
I approve, Pajeet.
>>53458560
The planet doesn't need you either, man.
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>>53458716
>IMO the PKK are some of the biggest "good guys" on the planet.
My nigga. It doesn't take a lot to understand that, some reading, visualization, interviews. Of course if you stay on your ass and swallow the Turkish and assyrian propaganda you see on /int/, you won't understand.

Kurds are the one capable to unite the peoples of the Middle East.
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>classic liberalism makes the most sense
>the New Deal was one of the best things for this country
>most conspiracy theories are retarded
>racism is natural, but fucking retarded to take seriously
>I'm not a Californian, but I'm proud to share a country with them ....LA is hell on earth, though.
>Fuck Texas
>I love my country, and it makes me sad that things have gotten as bad as they are, both here and abroad
>sorry, Mexico
>my dog is cooler than yours
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Muslims will become more liberal thanks to western education
Trump will never win the presidential elections
Senegal, Botswana, Ghana, and South Africa will become a dominant power in their region.
There will never be a WW3 because Russia, China, USA, and the EU, despite how tense their relation is, knows that starting a war is more expensive than winning it.
Iran will eventually open up to the world if USA stops intervening with its foreign policy
Malaysia will soon be a Chile-tier 1st world country
Poland won't leave EU
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>>53458796
Edrogan has close ties with Turkish gangsters who are also involved in the heroin trade. The PKK would also be really dumb not to exploit a profitable commodity they need to fuel their war.
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>>53458989
Good opinions tbqhf
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>>53458989
>trump won't win the presidential election
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>>53458795
>Anglocanada just shouldn't exist, it's illegal country of occupants
wut
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It's perfectly natural and OK to feel attracted to Asian women.
Falling in love with an Asian woman is essentially the same thing as falling in love to a woman of any other race, including your own.
It's not degeneracy to prefer Asian women over women of your own race.
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>>53458891
If you don't need us then stop sending fucking immigrants. You cunts ruined my home town. I'd rather 2 chinks than 1 Indian; at least they don't build gaudy pastel shit houses with 5 families in it to scam taxes by claiming it as a 1 family household.

Fuck India.

>>53459055
Butthurt frogaboo Russkie.
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>>53459054
stupid drakeposting cunt, i hate his shitty rap song


suck my cock
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>>53459071
>You cunts ruined my hometown
Are you from Oakville?
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Sweden is a pretty cool country and I would like to live there, and yes I am white
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>>53459084
t. Brown asian manlet with micro filipenis
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>>53459071
kek. We know the art of survival. We have sent them to just to ensure you are ruined and off the planet. Canada will be claimed as part of India soon. (Better than getting raped by kebabs tbqh)
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>>53459086
I used to live in Surrey, BC. I left because it's turned into a fucking ghetto in the last 20 years.
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Other people's ethnic backgrounds don't bother me.
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>>53458540
>JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP has basically become my motto, I've gone beyond the point of worrying and now look forward to the Germany and the rest of the continent's problems, while I can watch from my comfy island. When I heard about the koln rapists I actually felt satisfied that the germans are getting what they deserve.
>I prefer black Irish people to white foreigners
>I think Irish people can be black
>I always support leftism on 4chans because I hate /pol/ even though in real life I'm more anti-left than most people I know.
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>>53458719
India can field a much larger population. It's much more fertile and habitable than China, a nation that is basically 1/3 desert and rocky steppe.
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>>53459054
Feel the Bern

Except no. Hillary will win, and we're fucked.
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>>53459150
>voting for someone in prison
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>>53458795
What makes Anglocanada more illegal than 90% of Russia? You're occupying Turkic, Finnic, Mongolian, Caucasian, and Tunguscic land, m8
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>>53459097
True /int/olerants know that the shitty parts of Sweden are Malmo and some towns in Skane, most of the rest of the country is normal
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>>53458796
Their comminess is why I love them so much. Rojava exhibits the most sincere and feasible attempt at non-authoritarian Marxism since the Spanish Civil War. The best part is that there's no chance for Soviet tyrants to fuck this up.

Their government is amazingly based and I hope they succeed in all of their efforts.

As for their heroin traffic, that's admittedly shitty. Ideally, the US and other Western nations would bankroll their government to wean them off of the drug trade.
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>>53458540
>he honestly thinks secularism is what will do it in the Middle East
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>>53458907
As much as I support the Kurds I don't see them uniting the ME. They have too much bad blood with their neighbors in Iraq and Syria. The Assyrians, Turkmen, Arabs and Ezhidi. Some of the Arab and Turkmen tribes in the Syrian SDF coalition have sparred with the YPG for ethnic reasons in the past. Just because Daesh is bringing them together now doesn't mean these same problems won't come to the surface again when ISIS is defeated.

I know there is some genuine cooperation between the YPG and other ethnicity (I believe the leader of the YPG in Rojava is an Arab). However I think the Kurds being the foundation of a pluralistic state is not going to happen.
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Any semblance of discussion on /int/ is riddled with charlatans dishing out ad hominems.
Intelligent debate should be sought elsewhere and /int/ should be used exclusively for shitposting.

tl;dr
Shitposters are best
We can all learn from /lat/
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I really like aussies and gringos
I fucking hate japs
I fucking love burgers and american food
I honestly feel bad for americans on the spic immigration
Canadians are ok, sometimes are rude but ok
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Ameriboos are delusional and will be massively disappointed when their meme vision of the USA turns out wrong

Diaspora and immigrants need to namefag as their homeland nation. It's annoying as fuck not knowing if you're talking to a real person from a country or just some inauthentic diaspora/proxy/immigrant

The quality of Finnish and Polish posters have plummeted in the last 2 months and I don't know why

Canadian posters are worse than even US posters. They're everything wrong with US posters minus the few gems and coated with with a layer of cringe and euphoria
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>Europeans are nowhere near as smart as they pretend to be
>Australians can be funny, but somtimes try too hard to live up to expectations
>Brits, for all their talk about their incredible sense of humor, are some of the most easily buttflustered people on this board
>Russians, French, and Chileans are bros
>Brazilians are honestly some of the best posters
>Canadians are either exremely bro tier or absolutely terrible, with no middle ground
>My fellow Americans are hit or miss, but generally alright
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>>53458540
I unironically think Poles are some of the best, most entertaining posters around.

I love Australian/Polish banter matches on /int/.

I unironically despise Canadians on /int/, as they are the most loudmouthed, vile and self-absorbed posters on /int/.
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>>53459175
>What makes Anglocanada more illegal than 90% of Russia?
Anglocanada is rightful Russian clay.
>You're occupying rightful Russian clay, m8
ftfy
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>>53458837
In English, "illegitimate" is the polite way to say bastard.

It kind of bothers me that unmarried parents are slowly becoming the norm. I really don't want to live in a society where monogamy can no longer be expected.

>>53458984
all of this is true except for the dog bullshit
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>Argentinian posters ruined what was one of the only good generals on /int/
>Other people like them because they don't understand spanish
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>>53459463
This is an unpopular opinion thread pal
get lost.
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>Black cocks arent that good, they smell kind of bad
>Bernie sanders will make america great again
>Germany is better of dealing with the problems of immigration than a dwindling birth rate
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>>53458630
>islam is just as bad and good as any other major religion
Agreed and disagreed. Any of those three + repressive, uneducated third world culture would be equally bad. And that creates something truly awful
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>>53459397
>I love Australian/Polish banter matches on /int/.
what is there to even bant them about though?
They've existed as a country for less time than I have been alive and they seem to have zero culture or history to speak of
its like trying to banter a flat concrete wall, its uninteresting and featureless with nothing to grab on to
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>>53458989
I'm perplexed that you think Ghana has more potential than Nigeria. Why?

Why do you expect Malaysia to improve?
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I think western nations have somewhat of a responsibiilty to use their wealth to help people who are in danger of being killed by their governments (i.e. syrians).

However I think the syrians who come to western nations have a responsibility to assimilate in return, and not demand that their culture is catered to.
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>>53459557
Your second part is not really unpopular in the least. Even the most bleeding heart of liberals think that immigrants should assimilate.
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there seems to be some cosmic belief about canadians being overly polite when most of the ones i've known have been p rude
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>>53459405
There was a time where much of the eastern land belonged to the Mongols, Yuan and then Qings. If anglocanada is yours than give back Mongolia and China their clay
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a lot of butthurt towards Canadians ITT
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/cum/ is the best general on /int/
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>>53458540
>The US would be better-off under a soft-socialist government like Old Labour or the French socialist party
>US imperialism is currently necessary to maintain stability, although we do it poorly
>Feminism isn't necessarily a bad thing
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>>53459589

the first part was meant to be the unpopular part

There are plenty of libs who think we should not only open our arms to immigrants but our legs too
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italians are white
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>>53458540
>>India has more long-term potential than China

Coming from an Indian I'm not really sure what to make of this statement. I guess because services are worth more than Manufacturing in the long run as India is a service oriented economy it has the potential to overtake China if it plays to it's strengths

and IMHO not only will more companies globally outsource their IT consulting to India soon, the same thing will happen with HR, management and financial consulting.

but socially we're fucked, let me tell you for a fact that we don't and probably won't ever give fuck about poor people in this country. You know how Kanye West said George Bush doesn't care about black people? Same thing.We literally still have slaves. That image you have of dirty, filthy,backwards Inidans is always going to be there because there always be a large subsection of our society like this.

Besides we are not United Geographically, people from the North think people from the South are dirty, people from the South think people from the North are uncivilized and godless and Everybody else thinks people from the North East are subhuman.
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russians are white
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>>53459733
delet this
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kpop is good music
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>>53459755
Not sure how much of a strength having a service economy is when a lot of service jobs are being computerized.
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Italians are the best posters on /int/

as much as I like USA, they botch a lot of interactions with a lot of countries and I beam with pleasure when I think about them being beaten by the vietnamese

Germans are arrogant fuckheads and they are destroying europe

India and Russia are awesome countries <3
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Its the Year of the Rooster for the Chinese New Year. What could that mean, pic related
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>>53458540
>usa needs to get more social programs like europe
im not saying go into a flow blown welfare state but our welfare programs are pretty shit
>libertarianism is retarded
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>>53459805
It's their year of cuckoldry
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>>53459313
>unpopular opinion
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>taxation is theft
>all claims to power, right to legislate, property or life by any government or similar organizations are illegitimate
>the UN is literally the most useless and simultaneously dangerous organization in existence
>the immigration crisis, taken as a whole, is very exaggerated
>9th doctor is best doctor
>China might become a super power but will never be able to rival the west
>Russia isn't as evil as the media make them out to be
>Muslims can, generally speaking, become productive and compatible parts of most western societies
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>Israel is based
>Europe deserves what's happening to them
>the never ending stream of generals is killing the board
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>>53459805
year of proofs
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Greece is white tbqhwyf
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>>53459879
Europe can't assimilate immigrants but we do an excellent job of it
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>>53459798

Maybe tertiary is a better word, I also have a feeling that they'll be shift to more skilled/efficient service jobs.More management consultants/less call centre workers
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>>53459952
I'm always skeptical of how feasible moving HR and management overseas can be. There are certain jobs especially in HR you have to be there to do right while of course the menial ones can be outsourced. If it was easily doable more companies would have made the move already.
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>>53459557
You're absolutely correct.

>>53459589
"Multiculturalism", AFAIK, is the belief that immigrants should not be expected to assimilate. There's a reason why that word is never used in the US.
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The world would probably be better off in the long term if the Middle East was wiped off the map
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>>53460300
>unpopular
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>>53458623
Good natured refugees are fine
Just none of them are muslim
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>I only hate immigrants because they are smelly, their langauges are awful to listen to and their dark shit tier skin offends my eyes. Also fuck Islam!
>I have no problem with black people as long as they wash and behave.
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>>53460867
So which one is it?
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I am a girl and I prefer manlets rather than very tall men
I find islam an interesting religion and I like their culture
I don't think the U.S causes all the evil things in the world. Their country is ok.
I don't blame Germany for all our failures.
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>>53460891
I can not tolerate shitskins which is a popular opinion but on top of that I like black people who I believe can be decent people and are capable of smelling ok which is unpopular.
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>more people in a country are always bad.
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>>53458540
>Canadians are lazy fucks who benefit off of the sweat of the US and Britain without doing anything in return

I thought everyone knew this
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>>53460967

Really? I don't find small guys body frame to be very attractive but by small I mean under 160cm.
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>>53461221
Under 160cm? well...that starts to be considerably small. but if he's sweet and handsome :p

By that I was saying that I can find 165-173cm guys easily attractive.

Below that and above 190cm it starts to get negative to me.

Just personal preferences. My boyfriend is 177cm and it's perfect for me.
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Size doesn't matter
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>>53458540
>>Canadians are lazy fucks who benefit off of the sweat of the US and Britain without doing anything in return

Oh come the fuck on. That is utter horseshit.
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I believe that the current western powers amassed their wealth and influence unfairly and the colonial empire were legitimately evil.

I believe that the morally correct thing to to would be to massively redistribute wealth on a global scale. Reparations are entirely justified.

I also believe that I like living in a first world country and therefore I'd rather things not change, just that I recognise my own hypocrisy.
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>>53458716
>blown out of proportion
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>>53459132
You're the Nigerian who posted about living in Ireland aren't you?
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>>53460967
Your dream will come true when a Muslim Manlet rapes you
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>>53461342
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>>53461346
I would argue that colonialism brought modernism and enlightenment to much of the world
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>>53461346
First of all, the current western powers amassed wealth and influence first, before they were able to colonise.

Secondly, I demand those reparations as well. We were under the German yoke for almost 1 thousand years. Our lands were colonised and the people repressed. Gibs me dat or does it only work with third world shitholes that were colonised for a fraction of the time?

Thirdly, most of the colonies were in fact not even profitable.

Lastly, despite them being shitholes, the quality of life in the vast majority of them improved and they literally got the gift of western civilization handed to them. Guess how many major cities, railroads, air ports, mines, telephone lines, roads, etc were there before colonization.

Were it not for the colonisation most of them would still be living (wouldn't even be alive to start with but okay) in their tribal societies and continue to die to simple diseases.
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It doesn't matter too much if Europe gets overrun with "eevil Muslims" or whatever. Fact is that the world changes. It always has and always will. You cannot cling to the present or cling to the past. Europe is going to change. So will the USA, so will Asia so will Africa, etc. And yes, at least in the immediate future Islam is on the rise. In the far future, who knows. Does it matter? 50 years ago people were freaking out about rising number of atheist, 500 years ago, they were freaking about the rising number of Protestant, 5000 years ago they were freaking out about the rising number of agriculturalists. Who cares.
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>>53462523
I care, I care enough to volunteer at first opportunity, and there's many like me.

You may have been feminized in the west, brainwashed into not caring, pretending everything is a social construct, how it doesn't matter, how we're "destined" to be replaced, how there's no future for us and how we should give in because it is "inevitable" because "change" and "progress" and "multiculturalism". But not even that's enough, no, we have to be complicit in this, we have to celebrate it and encourage it for some reason. We're supposed to dance and sing fugees welcome otherwise we're racist. Racists for being a nation, racists for having a nation state.

This isn't about religion or the lack of, this is about cultural and ethnic suicide, a literal demographic replacement. I don't give a fuck about "white" people, white people don't exist. Keep your amerishit in america. But we're not white, we never identified as white, we're a nation, a nation state. Nation as in people of the same word, culture, origin and blood. Not some fucking construct like the US.

I don't hate brown people, in fact I think there's plenty of decent brown people, there's probably millions of brown people that are better persons than me, but I will not pretend it doesn't matter. I won't pretend we somehow owe them something and that we should for some reason enable them to literally take us over. I despise being called a racist because of it. I don't want to harm a single arab, but I do want to string up everyone enabling this, enabling this without the consent of the people. I want their bodies to hang on the streets until they're picked apart by ravens.

Fuck your amerishit propaganda, fuck your subversion, fuck your soviet tier media, fuck your colleges, fuck your country, fuck you. Stop buying our media, stop indoctrinating us. Stop fucking with us. Go on with your suicide, let us be.

Half my family didn't die every 50 years so I can watch this shit happen. Yes I mad.
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>>53459110
no kidding, fucking place across the street got robbed at gunpoint by some fucking brown people, fuck this place
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>>53458777
It's not even sending money.
It's just feeding money to itself desu.

>>53458719
China is killing itself faster then you can think and they stomp out any environmental protests.
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>>53459532
Nigeria has to deal with islamists in the North.
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>crisis will settle once restricions are done

i dont think you understand the scale of the problem
there are 2-3thousand of migrants arriving in greece every day
they make their way to germany in a few day
just this year thats 12*2=24k ppl at minimum, as time passes this amount would only grow, they need be somewhere, shit somewhere, eat something etc etc

germany has NO physical means to stop this amount of ppl
just imagine it amigo, 24k ppl standing in an area
cordons wont stop them, you can find enough videos what happens if they become unruly

besides germans have no personel to sweep across the countryside, they simply DO NOT have enough ppl employed policemen to sufficiently do their job

>canada is lazy
its a country size of the continent with 5ppl
they dont need to do anything let alone benefit off anyone to have it good

>india has more potential
maybe, but it doesnt look like pooing in loos will happen anytime soon

>swedish kids born out of marriage
nothing scary about that as long as the state acknowledges ppl living togather as mom and dad

>secural ME
you dont understand ME at all
they are different ppl, you cant apply your western values to them
democrazy will not work there
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>>53459930
Eh assimilate is a very iffy term.

I know an Afrikaner who in public you can't really tell with his accent and all that but he invited me to a braai and you can totally see his Afrikanerness come out like a completely different person. I've met Black Southerners who were born poor/middle class and educated in the South but when they went up north they got a lot of negative comments on their thick as hell Southern accent because people confuse it for AAVE and one got pulled aside with their boss telling him to stop speaking ghetto. I just see Assimilation as do whatever indoors and in private as long as it doesn't break any laws, public you do what is mainstream or if it isn't mainstream "sanctioned, safe and wahsed out".
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>india is a shithole
>Europe is overrated
>USA isn't as bad as its made out to be
>Australians are bro-tier
>there are no actual Canadians posting on /int/ (they are all normies), only diaspora and immigrants from various shitholes
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Immigrants do not assimilate into the European society.
They do into American, though.
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>>53458984
>classic liberalism
>the New Deal was fine
wew lad
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>Muslims should have to go through an extremely stringent screening process to prove they're not radical
>Australians are our last ideological allies in spite of being massive shitposters
>we shouldn't allow anyone to vote in your country without ID screening and you should have your ID non-verified if you try to use it more than once by scanner

Why is it so hard to just not vote twice you fucking shit-eaters?
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Everyone loves me country. Just kidding it's a shithole.
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>>53464971
>Australians are our last ideological allies
they completely banned all guns
they are leftists too
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>>53465031

Most of them aren't leftist.

They just don't have an amendment to content with so they just took the guns away. The liberals could just get rid if guns buy vote (like there) if it wasn't an original amendment. Plus, taking them away here would start an internal war. Over 90% of the military supports free arms and over 99% supports the citizenry. It would not be a good idea to start an arms collection.
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>>53465143

*contend
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>>53465143
No one here gives a shit about guns and were all super baffled why you guysare so obsessed with them. Its super weird. Im not even leftist
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>>53465283
WE WUZ MILITA'S N SHIET
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>>53465283

I care in that they're in my goddamn safe and I don't see why they give so much of a shit. I get my revolver out when I go to hike or cross-country ski around bears.

Some fucking asshole with a gun shouldn't dictate my ability to do what I want to do. I shouldn't have to ask anyone for the right to protect myself. Even in spite of some psychotic assailant.
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>>53465283
>implying you dont want to own a gun and shoot from it at shooting ranges
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>>53465398
We havent had a mass shooting since port arthur. Also it wasnt leftists who banned guns it was a conservative prime minister. Like saying i should be able to own guns because i want to own guns isnt a super great reason considering the repecussions to society as a whole. Seems like a fairly selfish attitude tbqhwy
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>>53465429
We do have shooting ranges. You just leave your gun in a safe there
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>>53465585
It sucks tвн.
We have these too. Really sucks. Dont lie to yourself. Much better to have your own and go to whatever range you want.
But we also can get guns. So I am applying this year for firearms.
However our law is retarded and you have to wait 5 years for real rifles. At first you egt only smoothbore gun.
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>>53458540
>France should take a third of all refugees, the US another third and the rest should be distributed through Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Turkey and Israel, as it was they that caused the destabilization of the countries the refugees were living on, any refugee not from Syria or Libya should be separated and offered to any state that is willing to take them, as they're not the same.
>a technocratic meritocracy is literally the only political ideology that isn't retarded and faith based
>the nuclear family is a social construct, small, interconnected groups of 100-200 that all partake in child rearing and where anybody can fuck anyone is what is really natural for our species
>there is literally unironically nothing wrong with euthanizing toddlers who can't speak yet
>patriotism is absolutely retarded, you should only take credit or pride for shit you actually did or participated in
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>>53465546

The legal gun-owners in our country are exceptionally civil. Nothing in our news says whether or not a firearm is illegal.

I have hunting rifles and handguns, only. They're very lethal but as far as killing another human? It's only crossed my mind because it's possible. Not because of anyone here, just because the argument was brought up.

I sometimes make extra money as a trail guide.

>have chinese people in the trail group
>ask why I have a big revolver
>dude sprains his ankle late in the hike
>"YOU'RE GOING TO SIT NEXT TO HIM WITH YOUR GUN RIGHT"
>"sort of, I'm calling in my bud with his four-wheeler"
>"what ABOUT BEARS"
>what about them? we'll set up lanterns and I'll set here with him

Chinese people are confident as hell until a panick sets in. It's like "look, get the fuck out of here."
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>>53465839
Where do you do these trail guide things? Is it only chinese people who want to do them? Also remember that China is a dangerous place with a lot of crime, for chinese people being in an isolated place with a stranger who is armed will set off alarm bells.
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>>53465802
>the nuclear family is a social construct, small, interconnected groups of 100-200 that all partake in child rearing and where anybody can fuck anyone is what is really natural for our

In what way is that natural?
From an evolutionary perspective the mother always takes care of her offspring so that they'll have a better chance to pass on their genes.

Taking care of others children is the definition of a social construct and often it happens only out of necessity.

Evolution is the antithesis to cuckoldry and leftism 2bh.
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>>53466828
Its natural because that's how our ancestors lived for hundreds of thousands of years before the invent of agriculture when they settled down and built cities and took ownership of the land as well as ownership of other people.
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>>53466913
Oh, that's when it stopped being natural, right? No, we should go further back, hunting and gathering with tools isn't natural, back to your tree, monkey. I would also like to know where you got your wonderful insight on how things were before the invention of language and writing to record such things.
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>>53467195
When what stopped being natural?
No, that's retarded, I'd much rather build an environment that has in mind our human nature and goes with it, not against it, as having a dysfunctional society with fucked up, arbitrary values and practices is the cause of 90% of our current problems.
I gained that insight from anthropology and science m8.
Where do you gain yours? A Jew book?
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>>53467384
>When what stopped being natural?
At what point did your "ideal" society become natural and replaced the previous one? At one point did that society cease to become natural? Is the evolution of human society deemed "unnatural" only when it goes against your ideological belief? Did aliens come to earth and force us into the current state of affairs or did they evolve on their own? If no, then what makes it unnatural and thus artificial? I'm sure their society was totally un-abritrary.


>I gained that insight from anthropology and science m8.
In other words you have no insight.
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>>53467479

>At what point did your "ideal" society become natural and replaced the previous one?
Idk, when our ape ancestors came down from the trees and ventured the savanna I guess.

>At one point did that society cease to become natural?
When cities became a thing.

>Is the evolution of human society deemed "unnatural" only when it goes against your ideological belief?

No, only when it clearly goes against our human nature, what we're built for, for instance, it'd be stupid to take African lions to the Mississippi swamps and expect them to do well there.

>Did aliens come to earth and force us into the current state of affairs or did they evolve on their own? If no, then what makes it unnatural and thus artificial? I'm sure their society was totally un-abritrary.
What the fuck are you on about? I never mentioned aliens, why are you bringing them up all of a sudden? They have nothing to do with this conversation since I don't believe that we've ever had contact with an intelligent alien species.

>In other words you have no insight.
So you think you know better than peer reviewed science journals?
Where do you get YOUR insight?
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>>53467923
>Idk, when our ape ancestors came down from the trees and ventured the savanna I guess.
Oh, then maybe you can explain why tribes in the amazon, essentially still hunter gatherers, practice monogamy and marriage?

>When cities became a thing.
Ah, then you can perhaps tell me how this process is unnatural. Was it artificially applied to the human race or is simple evolution of human society like that of our ancestors descending from trees into the savanna.

>No, only when it clearly goes against our human nature, what we're built for, for instance, it'd be stupid to take African lions to the Mississippi swamps and expect them to do well there.
And, let me guess, you get to define what "human nature" is. Fun fact, humans got to this point naturally.

>So you think you know better than peer reviewed science journals?
>Where do you get YOUR insight?
Not from retarded mexicans, it seems.
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>>53468019

>Oh, then maybe you can explain why tribes in the amazon, essentially still hunter gatherers, practice monogamy and marriage?
Some do, some don't, and some of the ones that do have no problem with fucking someone else's wife and letting someone else fuck his wife.
This practice was also recorded by Greek traders in a Scythian tribe north of the Caspian sea.

>Ah, then you can perhaps tell me how this process is unnatural. Was it artificially applied to the human race or is simple evolution of human society like that of our ancestors descending from trees into the savanna.
I see what you mean with your weird alien reference before, well I obviously think that we came up with cities as an eventual step after agriculture, I wouldn't call it evolution though, its simply a change, its not objectively good or bad, to judge whether it was beneficial for our species or not you'd have to define beneficial first.

>And, let me guess, you get to define what "human nature" is.
No, human nature is not something I can confidently define, but I do know that there is a correlation between a child's bodily contact with a mother as well as openness to sexuality during a human's puberty and violence in a society, meaning that just like wearing fucked up shoes produces fucked up feet, raising children in unnatural, arbitrary, neglectful environments makes fucked up people.

>Fun fact, humans got to this point naturally.
Sure, that doesn't mean that its good for us as individuals.

Great ad hominem btw, goes nicely with your stawmans.
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>>53459173
>I listen to my angry stepdad's political rants
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>>53458702
>>53458777
Nice try ••••berg
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>>53468619
>Some do, some don't, and some of the ones that do have no problem with fucking someone else's wife and letting someone else fuck his wife.
>This practice was also recorded by Greek traders in a Scythian tribe north of the Caspian sea.
Oh, so you cherry pick your examples now? Scythian tribe? You mean agricultural people? You have to start making up your mind now. Was it pre-agricultural people you were talking about or are you just talking about the so successful societies in general (which somehow don't exist any more despite being so superior according to you)?

>I see what you mean with your weird alien reference before, well I obviously think that we came up with cities as an eventual step after agriculture, I wouldn't call it evolution though, its simply a change, its not objectively good or bad, to judge whether it was beneficial for our species or not you'd have to define beneficial first.
But you are fucking defining it by claiming shit that you claimed in your original post and you are defining it right in your next line.

>raising children in unnatural, arbitrary, neglectful environments makes fucked up people.
See? You just defined the present as being unnatural, arbitrary and neglectful while at the same time defining the previous societies which may or may not existed as somehow the opposite of this and thus superior and """""""natural"""""""

>Sure, that doesn't mean that its good for us as individuals.
Again, you somehow know what's good for us?

Straw man's, ad hominem? You don't know what these words mean. I'm calling you an idiot because you are one, after I refuted your shitty argument, not as part of my argument. On the other hand you literally reached to a fallacy by appealing to some (unknown) authority called "peer reviewed science journals".


Your entire argument can be summed up with "Things I like I will define as natural while things I dislike I will define unnatural". Enjoy your cuckoldry, fag.
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Slavs should unite and stop further degeneration of yurop
I want my fucking paganism back
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>>53465143
>muh liberals
Most pro gun control people don't want to storm in your house and still yer guns, Hezekiah.
Hell, I think everyone should own a rifle and a shotgun. Handguns should be highly regulated, as should magazine/clip capacity. ARs should be banned just because it's always douchebags that have a hardon for them.
Open carry should be legal in all states, but open carry protestors should be shamed for the attention-starved immature faggots they clearly are.
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>>53469003
>Slavs should unite
>paganism
Anything other than Catholicism, right?
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>>53464971
>t. Hannity
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>>53464674
I honestly wonder why, though. Experience, maybe?
I'm not sure devout Muslims can ever really assimilate, even in the US.
>>53464756
>what is social libertarianism
>muh ideological purity
Are the autism memes true?
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Racism is a meme, culture is what defines us (although certain nations are genetically inferior to others due to inbreeding/lack of genetic diversity)
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>>53469298
Devout can, radicals not
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>>53469468
>Irish
It's ok, you can say it...
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>>53469506
I think you have a different idea of what assimilation entails. Wearing a headscarf and long sleeves year-round would be seen as a stand against assimilation here.
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I think Danes are cute. Their language has a certain charm to it.
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>>53469163
The brunch of christianity doesn't matter, macchiavelli said it was a cuck religion and i agree. We needed christianity only to fight off turks. Now it's useless. It only serves to divide slavs.
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Generals are a cancer.
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>>53469774
>unironically using cuck
Serbs are meme
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>>53462474
>First of all, the current western powers amassed wealth and influence first, before they were able to colonise.

It's hard to say, Europe was a backwater before colonialism. Arabia, China and even India (not as much as the other two) were in many cases way more advanced. European dominance came mainly after the age colonization.
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I think cuckolding is really hot and I want to try it someday.
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>>53470224
>Cuck Republic
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>>53458540
>Mexicans probably aren't going to turn us all brown, and worrying about skin color is just a superficial worry to mask the underlying problem of you being worried your culture will be replaced

>Europe doesn't have a clue what it's doing next, but fanning tensions between Muslims and Europeans is not helping
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>>53468935

>Oh, so you cherry pick your examples now?
What? I was just giving you an example, they weren't agricultural, they were nomadic, not hunter gatherers but herders.

>You have to start making up your mind now.
Yes, so far from the evidence I've seen there seems to be a direct relation between pre agricultural societies and egalitarianism as well as a more communal approach to child rearing.
Also I never said that success societies didn't exist anymore, yet another strawman, I said that they weren't beneficial to us as individuals.
Also being a successful society can mean a lot of things since being successful merely means achieving a goal, it doesn't say what that goal should be, therefore many societies could have wildly different opinions about what that goal should be.

>But you are fucking defining it by claiming shit that you claimed in your original post and you are defining it right in your next line.
>>raising children in unnatural, arbitrary, neglectful environments makes fucked up people.

I think that many of the aspects of our society are harmful to us, such as what I described earlier, I did not say that the whole of our society was bad or that we should go back to living the way we did 50k years ago, that'd be not only stupid but impossible.

>Again, you somehow know what's good for us?
Yes? people living in egalitarian, non violent societies suffer a lot less, this is better than structurally violent, individualistic, stratified societies which have astronomically high levels of mental illnesses, violent deaths, suffering.

>Straw man's, ad hominem? You don't know what these words mean. I'm calling you an idiot because you are one
You are relying on name calling because I'm destroying your weak arguments.

>after I refuted your shitty argument.... you literally reached to a fallacy by appealing to some (unknown) authority called "peer reviewed science journals".
Read Sex at Dawn if you want to know which science journals I'm referring to.
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>>53470407
>Yes, so far from the evidence I've seen there seems to be a direct relation between pre agricultural societies and egalitarianism as well as a more communal approach to child rearing.
Yes, that's why it's contradictory with actual surviving un-contacted tribes, right? Case in point-Nukak People.

>Also being a successful society can mean a lot of things
Here we go with the relativism. Yeah, eating your own shit is just as successful as the industrial revolution.

>I think that many of the aspects of our society are harmful to us
>I think

>I did not say that the whole of our society was bad or that we should go back to living the way we did 50k years ago, that'd be not only stupid but impossible.
No, you just want to normalize your cuck fetish and call it "natural" despite the natural progress of society not evolving around your bullshit. Thus you simply call it "unnatural" based on absolutely fucking nothing.

>Yes? people living in egalitarian, non violent societies suffer a lot less
You mean like the societies that practice monogamy and shun polygamy? Maybe places like Europe, eh? Maybe Slovenia with it's 0.5 per 100k murder rate?

>this is better than structurally violent, individualistic, stratified societies which have astronomically high levels of mental illnesses, violent deaths, suffering.
That's why the societies, which you describe, rule the world or at least exist?

>You are relying on name calling because I'm destroying your weak arguments.
You literally have no argument.

>Read Sex at Dawn
Oh, a book that wasn't published in any scientific journal and FAILED peer review? Great for proving my point that you know jack shit what you're talking about. In fact there are actual PEER REVIEWED journals that reject the hypothesis put forth by the book and critisise it.

Enjoy your pop science bullshit.
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>>53470407
>>53470600
Congratulations on having one of the most boring, pointless, and off-topic arguments I've seen in a while, faggots.
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Germany has ruined Europe more than any country in the entire world.

Their quest for world relevancy has fucked Europe three times.

They unironically deserved to be eradicated. The citisens need to be put in labour camps. Merkel deserves to be raped by 500 syrian refugees.

Fuck Germany.
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Israel is one of the greatest and least cucked nations on Earth. When the western world falls, people will flock to live in Israel.
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>>53470987
>unpopular opinions
I don't see how this is off topic burger.
As for boring and pointless, well that's just like, your opinion man.

>>53470600

>Yes, that's why it's contradictory with actual surviving un-contacted tribes, right? Case in point-Nukak People.
There's many surviving uncontacted tribes and they vary a lot due to the difference in their environments, you can't really make generalizations about them all.

>Here we go with the relativism. Yeah, eating your own shit is just as successful as the industrial revolution.
Are you physically unable to quit doing strawman tactics? Jesus.

>>I think that many of the aspects of our society are harmful to us
>>I think

>No, you just want to normalize your cuck fetish...
What about polygamous muslim countries? Besides all the accounts of massive harems in the old testament.

>You mean like the societies that practice monogamy and shun polygamy? Maybe places like Europe, eh? Maybe Slovenia with it's 0.5 per 100k murder rate?
No, I meant in societies like the uncontacted tribes where people don't have a strict social order, stratification and such.

>That's why the societies, which you describe, rule the world or at least exist?
The mongols ruled a third of the world, would you say that they were the pinnacle of civilization and development? That doesn't mean much more than they were violent and good at war, the same can be said about niggers.

>Oh, a book that wasn't published in any scientific journal and FAILED peer review?

Never mind what the book's author thinks, focus on his sources listed on his book, investigate them, I know the book is not peer reviewed, but the sourced material is.
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Tuva belongs to Mongolia.
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>>53471834
>There's many surviving uncontacted tribes and they vary a lot due to the difference in their environments, you can't really make generalizations about them all.
Yet you are making generalization about "pre-modern" society.

"Its natural because that's how our ancestors lived for hundreds of thousands of years before the invent of agriculture when they settled down and built cities and took ownership of the land as well as ownership of other people."
This is literally your original post.

>Are you physically unable
You're the only one physically unstable with your cuckold fetish.

>What about polygamous muslim countries? Besides all the accounts of massive harems in the old testament.
See again your fucking OP. Even there polygamy is restricted to men with women and is in no way a "free for all", "sex is just sex" bullshit you're trying to peddle.

>I meant in societies like the uncontacted tribes where people don't have a strict social order, stratification and such.
Except they have strict social order which involves marriage and mating according to tradition as well as how the community lives and even upon what territory they travel.

>The mongols ruled a third of the world, would you say that they were the pinnacle of civilization and development
No they weren't, do you see the Mongols ruling anything except a desert with some tundra now? At least they have a fucking claim to relevance. Your "ideal natural" society has none yet you lap about it's benefits.

>Never mind what the book's author thinks, focus on his sources listed on his book, investigate them, I know the book is not peer reviewed, but the sourced material is
Yeah, that's why the book is rejected by the majority of experts on the subject and failed the peer review? It's not that it's not peer reviewed, it's that it FAILED one.

Now I have to look at the "sources" of the book. You're literally trying to peddle a failed popscience book as some sort of truth lmao.
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>>53471791
>tfw wife is 100% Ashkenazi and can prove it
>tfw this makes my goy boy toy self eligible for Israeli citizenship
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>>53472520
It also makes your kids Jews
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>>53471834
>I don't see how this is off topic burger.
Ok, it may not necessarily be off topic, but it's needlessly tangential.
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>>53472558
1 We're not going to have kids
2 So what? It also makes them 1/8 Slovene. Na na na na boo boo
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>>53458540
Literally every single thing you said is wrong.
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>>53472598
May God have mercy upon your sould
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>being wrong the thread

jesus this thread is awful desu
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>>53472663
>Slovenes aren't crypto-Jews
Shh. Here, have some potica. Good boy.
>>53473473
Your post is proving it right.
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We should abolish voter registration and instead of an accessible national database of all citizens, showing age and name.

People can vote by confirming their ID via thumbprint or photo ID.

The current process of voter registration is an antidemocratic system meant to exclude unlikely voters (young people and the poor) from the political system.
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>>53472598
why no kids?

do ur duty
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>>53458682
tbqh after I finish uni I'd like to skedaddle to Seattle

and there's already over 1m Canadians living in America so yeah we already have basically https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_diaspora
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My girlfriend is a jew.
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>>53459084
hey fuck you bud
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>>53458540
>I really don't care much about what happens outside my or my neighboring countries
>Israel was a mistake
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>>53459773
get out
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Slavs are just as annoying as Muslims.
Slavs are ugly (except south slavs).
Swedish is the ugliest language on the planet.
American political correctness is a cancer and their freedoms are a farce.
Chinese are pretty cool guys (as long as they dont copy our shit).
The Netherlands is historically more important than Germany.
Germany should just be annexed by the Netherlands.
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>>53478166
>I really don't care much about what happens outside my or my neighboring countries
So doesn't 90% of your countrymen.
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>>53479243
Also: all Dutch people should move to Suriname.
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>>53479347
Why?
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All women are whores
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The Netherlands, Belgium and the UK should be covered by water.
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Conferderated should have won the USA Civil War.

USA should dissapear.
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>without doing anything in return
>largest trade partner of the US and regularly contributes to their military conquests
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>>53477362
We're too selfish 2bh
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>>53478005
Jewish girls best girls lad
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>>53483373
Yeah, but you're smug jerks about it, so it doesn't count.
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Historically speaking, the US is pretty bening as far as hegemons are concerned, and the era of unprecedented peace and prosperity around the world since the end of WW2 is directly correlated to the rise of the American system.

That, and nukes.
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>>53469810
this

>go on /int/
>ten area-specific generals
start your own chans or something for christ's sake...
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>>53483057
TDS PTS
D
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P
T
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>Conspiracy theories are stupid, I really hope you are all kidding and don't speak about them irl
>Sweden is a nice place, also I laugh hard when I see shitholes like the Balkans criticizing it
>Immigration is ok as far as immigrants try to integrate
>USA is fine, especially when you look at the other "super-powers"
>EU is the only way for Europe to stay relevant
>Germany was right and greeks are bunch of lazy fucks
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>>53484192
I agree 100%, but also consider that hegemony in the current time is achieved through economy more than raw power so there is more interest in maintaining safe economic relations than bombing cities. Taht's why the US isn't really an Empire, but a center of influence instead
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>>53484909
Ture, but pretty much everyone would prefer the economic approach. There was also a time right after WW2 when Europe was in ruins, we had the most powerful military in the world, and a monopoly on nukes when we could have completely taken over everything. There were some people calling for us to use nukes on the Soviets, but luckily smarter people prevailed, How many other countries would have had that restraint? Not many.
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porn is cancer and you fucks should stop having qt threads and whatnot
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>>53458540
I actually love Sweden and I want to emigrate there

t. lived there for 3 months but had to leave
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Media's ignorance io other parts of the world and history really fucks up people's perception and understanding. Only the last 10 years matter to them.
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I genuinely think India is probably the most hellish country. Uncompassionate, ugly, sickly people. Extreme national arrogance, a generally very low level of enlightenment(not in any snobby, fedora sense of the word, they just have incredibly base, shitty animalistic views of the world), poverty, extreme illness and uncleanliness. Corruption like no other place. worst country. I'd rather be born in Somalia or North Korea.
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>>53484192
Indeed.
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