Difference between Ottoman and Austro-Hungarian Empires
>We weren't forced, we adopted it to maintain the faith
„S’au însemnat în nişte cărţi vechi scrise de mână că, după reposarea patriarhului bulgar, Sfântul Ioan carele a ridicat pe Asan la împărăţie, a chemat Asan dela Ohrida pe părintele Teofilact, a luminat şi a curăţit toată Bulgaria de eresurile de cari multe se aflau atunci în ea.
După aceea a invitat pe împăratul Asan de a trecut în Valahia, să o cucerească şi să o cureţe de eresul roman, care pe atunci domnea în ea; şi Asan s’a dus şi a supus amândouă Valahiile sub stăpânirea sa, şi a silit pe Valahi, cari până atunci citeau în limba latină, să lese mărturisirea romană, şi să nu citească în limba latină, ci în cea bulgară, şi a poruncit ca celui ce va citi în limba latină să i se taie limba, şi de atunci Valahii au început a citi bulgăreşte”.
>mfw 1/11th of the population, 1/10th of the surface area
>mfw 1/5th of the total GDP, 1/3 of all exports
Yugoslavia would be great they said.
Brotherhood and Unity they said
Social progress they said
Are we talking about Alexander the Good or the Asanites? In Alexander the Good's case, it was a willfull transition approved by both the Voivodeship(Domnie) and the Church a.k.a. the only ones that actually wrote during those times.
And if you take the Asanite version into account, keep in mind this:
>Este cazul, asadar, să luăm foarte serios în atenţie si mărturia cronicarului Paisie de la Hilandar, care spunea ca ţarul Ioan Asan al II-lea (1218-1241) „a poruncit vlahilor, care până atunci citeau în limba latinească să lepede legea romană şi să nu citească în limba latină, ci în cea bulgară. Şi a poruncit care va citi în limba latină să i se taie limba. Şi aşa vlahii AU PRIMIT DE ATUNCI LEGEA ORTODOXA şi au început să citească bulgăreşte”
In the case of the Romanian historiography, it was done willingly to protect against heresy. In the case of the Bulgarian historiography, it was done unwillingly to CLEANSE heresy. In both cases it is justified.
too smug Janez
if you ask me where money was made it should've stayed there so there would be no case like "we sponsor(ed) you hurr durr". But having some structures in common was not a bad idea in itself
ah well..what does it matter now..
"T'is written in some books, that after the passing of the bulgar bishop, Sain John, who anointed Asan emperor, did Asan bring father Theophilact from Ohrid, which enlightened and cleaned all Bulgaria of the many heresies that were in it.
Afterwards did emperor Asan cross in Wallachia, conquering it and cleaning it of the roman heresy, which at the time ruled there, and Asan did go and bend both Wallachias to his dominion, and forced the Vlachs, which until then read in latin, to abandon the roman confession, and not read in latin, but bulgarian, and ordered that he who shall read latin shall have his tongue cut, and from then onwards did the vlachs read bulgarian"
>Şi aşa vlahii AU PRIMIT DE ATUNCI LEGEA ORTODOXA
So, wtf, we really were catholics before that?
Not that it matters, we were some guys on the edge of the empire whom Rome and Constantinopole squabled over for jurisdiction.
"Istoria slavo-bulgară"(1762) a Cronicarului bulgar Paisie de la Manastirea Athosului si "Descriptio Antiqui et Hodierni Status Moldaviae", III, Cap. V - "Despre literele moldovenilor..." a lui Cantemir.
E dezbatuta treaba. E posibil sa fim ortodocsi mai dinainte, tinind cont ca populatiile romanizate care au ajutat la formarea neamului nostru au pastrat contactul cu Constantinopolul. Dar la momentul Asanestilor, o parte considerabila a rominilor erau trecuti la erezia papistasa.
Old Church Slavonic was the main language used for administrative (until the 16th century) and liturgical purposes (until the 17th century) by the Romanian principalities, being still occasionally used in the Orthodox Church until the early 18th century
The letter of Neacșu of Câmpulung (Romanian: Scrisoarea lui Neacșu de la Câmpulung), written in 1521, is the oldest surviving document available in Romanian that can be reliably dated. Written using Cyrillic, it was sent by Neacșu Lupu, a boyar from Câmpulung, Wallachia (now Argeș County, Romania) to Johannes Benkner, the mayor of Brassó, Kingdom of Hungary (now Brașov, Romania), warning him about the imminent attack of the Ottoman Empire on Transylvania.
This hassle between both capitals of the Empire is so tiring, historically.
Heh, maybe that's why i have a fascination for the western rites.
Sorry, m8. You aren't helping. These are things we know already and kind of off-point to the conversation at hand. I'm making an argument in favour of the usage of Cyrillic, while my co-patriot is making one for Latin.
>Do you have brain drain
Yes, but nothing like the rest of ex-yu so it's not really a problem, we still have a net gain in migration.
>are you planning to immigrate west at a certain point?
Probably not, no, but you never know.
well its mostly this>>53449282
or just pope puppets and the others who want ortodox church using their languages not greek or latin. A lot of slavs were influenced by the pope others by orthodox churches. Even if i want now i can make polaks to use Cyrillic for example
I know all about that, m8. If you are familiar with the Orthodox Nationalist podcast, the guy behind it (priest, PhD in Eastern Slavic history) is of Irish descent, part of an Ukrainian church in America that follows the Western rite of St. Tikhon.
But yeah, the hassle was the result of the Pope throwing a fit, not accepting to be only 'Primus inter pares' and wanting to be 'Primus et punctum'.
>haven't seen my highschool oneitis for 3 years
>still fap to her religiously
It this pathetic? Should I stop?
I know it's not feasible for Romanians to bring back the Cyrillic alphabet nowadays. But in your case, be proud of your letters, m8. St. Cyril and Methodius didn't come up with them just by chance or solely through intellect, but they were guided by the Holy Spirit in their marvelous work. I said it once and I'll say it again, the Cyrillic alphabet is /the/ Orthodox alphabet. Cherish it as we should have. :\
>But yeah, the hassle was the result of the Pope throwing a fit, not accepting to be only 'Primus inter pares' and wanting to be 'Primus et punctum'.
Which was partially provoked by the whole byzantine papacy.
Apostolic Canon 34:
The bishops of every nation must acknowledge him who is first among them and account him as their head, and do nothing of consequence without his consent; but each may do those things only which concern his own parish, and the country places which belong to it. But neither let him (who is the first) do anything without the consent of all; for so there will be unanimity, and God will be glorified through the Lord in the Holy Spirit. :P
Do you guys forget a lot of shit after a while?
Does duolingo really legit teach you a language?
I'm on French level 5 after 5 minutes just cos I studied it, and it doesn't seem very legit t b h
you need to keep those bars full, but even when not being too serious with learning the language, you learn a lot.
But preferably you should also consume some media in that language.
This Canon is foundational for the regional organization of Churches and the governing of them by the first among the bishops, i.e., the metropolitan, without whose consent the bishops of each diocese should not commit any action outside their normal see. On the other hand, the first among them is also not self-governing and should consult the sobor of all bishops within his region for a decision on all the most important matters. (1/2)
Just as, when the head is unwell and fails to function properly, the other members of the body also are ill disposed or even utterly useless, so and in like manner it may be said that the one acting as head in the Church does not honor her fitly, all the rest of the body of the Church will be out of order and unable to function. It is for this reason that the present Canon ordains that all bishops of every province ought to know who is the chief among them, i.e., the metropolitan; and ought to regard him as their head, and not to do anything unnecessary without consulting him, as respecting, that is to say, anything that does not pertain to the parishes of their bishoprics, but, extending beyond these limits, have to do with the common condition of the whole province, as, for instance, do questions concerning the dogmas, matters involving adjustments and corrections of common mistakes, the installation and ordination of prelates, and other similar things. Instead, they are to meet with the metropolitan and confer with him in regard to such common matters, and decide in common on what appears to them the best thing to be done. Each of the bishops should do by himself, without consulting his metropolitan, only those things that are confined to the limits and boundaries of his bishopric and to the territories that are subject thereto. But just as bishops should do nothing of common interest without consulting the metropolitan, so and in like manner a metropolitan ought not to do anything of such common interest alone and by himself without consulting all his bishops. For in this wray there will be concord and love, both between bishops and metropolitans and between clergymen and laymen. (2a/2)
The outcome of this concord and love will be that God the Father will be glorified through His Son, our Lord Jesus Christ, who acquainted men with the name of His Father and laid down the law requiring love, when He said: "By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one for another" (John 13:35). And He will be glorified in His Holy Spirit, which through Its grace has united us in one spiritual association. That is the same as saying that as a result of this concord the Holy Trinity — the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit — will be glorified, in accordance with the voice of the Gospel which says: "Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and may glorify your Father who is in heaven" (Matt. 5:16). (2b/2)
i remember the words and some phrases mostly i can do with them
then trying to uderstand written or spoken spanish and its leggit some kind i get more then baila and tequila as before
but i definetly need more exercise to be sure to make conversations
i dont care for english nigga i can write formal or informal way but im not some redditor or payed shill blogster that whole day try to right on here as some his payed articles in "proper" way Ah and yes ive been in differenet chat with comunies that u cant even imagine how they write and they will laugh at you for all your fedorafag cynicism
Don't be an ass, his English is ok. Not like my Serbo-Russo-Bulgarian when I visited your Bulgaria.
>tfw thirsty in train and gypo with his Bulgar wife and small children has water
>"Brate, vada, molima!"
>guy doesn't understand at first
>"Vada, brate! Vada!"
>generous Bulgar gypo gibs water
Also, when a Bulgar wanted to ask me something,
>"Je ne gavarju pa bulgarki. Ja sam ruman."
And I kept getting mistaken for a Russian tourist since I preferred saying "spasiba" to the faggotry of "mersi"
I know him, m8.
>professor asks bulgar girl how to say "thanks" in our language
>she says blagodarya
>he asks her to repeat it
>she says it again
>he asks her to repeat it slowly
>she says it again
>"oh just sit down"
Don't be a hater Ooggaa-Boogar! This is the funniest fucked up spawn I ever seen, shits hilarious.
that's the reality of the situation
though it's mostly regarding other languages like french, spanish or german
>some literal faggot who only knows "la mañana" claims in his CV he's fluent in spanish just so he can work
>albanian makes a perfectly good /balk/ thread
>posts it before the maco shit
>everyone still goes to the macoshit's thread
what the fuck is this
>chasing away the only decent albo
>he turns hurka durka like toniblerim
The town produces 900 tonnes of cannabis annually, worth €4.5bn, equivalent to around half of Albania's gross domestic product
other half is bubregs i guess...
>In June 2014, Albanian police launched a major operation against the village, involving over 800 officers. Heavily armed locals shot RPGs and fired mortar rounds at the officers, who returned fire. Police took control of most of the village, with Interior Minister Saimir Tahiri saying the operation would continue until "every square centimetre in Lazarat is under state control". Smoke rose from the village as locals burned cannabis plants.
Bretty gud plot for an action flick.
what the fuck are villagers doing with RPGs and mortars lmfao
>if we're gonna die then we're gonna die high t b h
>sets weed plants on fire
>we won't stop until every square bunker is under state control
only in shqipperia
>by backstabbing like a typical greek
Tatar subhuman insults the holy,orthodox brotherhood
typical "winner writes the history" propaganda and fact obscuring
Those Lazarat faggots are based as fuck дби. They had their own power-plant (bunch of generators in a building) and they even constructed their own infrastructure (roads, gas-stations...)
And I'm sorry for that, m8. Wasn't alive back then. I would have actually preferred if we joined you in the war, we'd take Vojvodina and Serbian Timok(and maybe establish an Aromanian state in Greece) and you'd help yourself to the buffet however you would've wanted.
I'm not that familiar with this episode of history, but I know for a fact that during the Balkan War it was clear to both Bulgarians and their allies what Bulgarians wanted and what was rightfully theirs. I can only imagine the shock the Bulgarians must've had after shedding their blood alongside their allies only to be fucked at the peace table.
Well, he had some autismo going along with
>Tsarigrad will be ours!
>order tower bell for Hagia Sophia!
But from that to denying the Bulgarians their realistic ambitions in lands with a predominatly Bulgarian population... I can certainly empathize with you guys.
>and the serbhumans, seakikes and your people most notably, saw him as some sort of threat apparently
now why would they do that? look at this face. this is a face you can trust 100%
>>Tsarigrad will be ours!
>>order tower bell for Hagia Sophia!
Wait, you have to be shitting me
>implying commies exist that time here
it was actually western cucked monarch fault to enter into those wars who was imposed on us after russian one
well we slashed them on them battlefield at least
Due to criticism by their high command, the British made new attempts at a breakthrough. On 8 May, after a long artillery barrage, they began another attack. The main assault started at 9 pm with five waves of British troops attacking the Bulgarian positions. After four attacks during the night of 8–9 May the British were defeated and suffered enormous casualties. A Times correspondent wrote that the British soldiers called the "Boris" point "the valley of death".
He was delusional, but he did not start a conflict with the Serbs or Greeks. They started it by refusing to cede Macedonia to Bulgaria. This is the exact bullshit that Hitler pulled off pre-WW2. "Oh, grabbing Macedonia is just preemtive in case of Bulgarian imperialism!" Justifying such an action with ifs is not excusable. Sorry, m8.
>but he did not start a conflict with the Serbs or Greeks
Of course he didn't, but such statements make diplomatic relations pretty difficult and edgy
It's like insulting a man and being surprised after he gives you a clap
Nigger Serbia called for another round of negotiations because the cucks in Austria and Italy formed Albania which was supposed to be divided between Serbia and Greece, also 1/3 of Vardar Macedonia was supposed to go to Serbia. It is not like hurrr we take whole Vardar fuk you Tuta.
No, it is not. Had they insulted anyone, it might've been the Turks with their demands, but they didn't contest the lands the Serbs and Greeks demanded before the war broke out.
Nigger, we aren't talking about candies here, but lands filled with people whose fates are sealed by an arbitrary peace treaty. Just because things didn't work out with Albania gives you no right to ask for more than what you bargained for with your ally.
So it's finally solved: Macedonians are Western Bulgarians.
Poor choice of words on my part, unfortunately. I interpreted the article mentioning Bulgaria the way it does was equivalent to it just being a normal thing happening in the country.
That's also a very good question that I asked when I stumbled upon the article. Maybe the Danes just don't do that? I have no idea.
I guess that's a likely explanation. I think that's also why it's prevalent in mine. I was just baffled by the fact that the article mentions Bulgaria, Finland, Norway and Sweden. It just seemed like such an odd combination of countries that a piece of culture is shared with.
Nigga are you serious ?
Claiming Saloniki and Constantinople is not insulting ?
The potential clay of Bulgaria was delusional (not Macedonia) in terms of metropolises and taking Tri Moreta as substantiation is ridiculous I mean if Greece claims Alexandria or Southern Italy in a prospective war I would feel embrassed for my nation (not that there is no reason for this yet)
>mfw Bulgaria lost Odrin and all that clay almost to Tsarigrad
>lost clay in Greek Macedonia
>lost clay in Romania
>100 years later the land and people that they fought for call them Tatars and want nothing to do with them
>In a search for allies, Serbia was ready to negotiate a contract with Bulgaria. The agreement provided that, in the event of victory against the Ottomans, Bulgaria would receive all of Macedonia south of the Kriva Palanka-Ohrid line. Serbia's expansion was accepted by Bulgaria as being to the North of the Shar Mountains (i.e. Kosovo.) The intervening area was agreed to be "disputed"; it would be arbitrated by the Tsar of Russia in the event of a successful war against the Ottoman Empire.
>In the discussions that led Greece to join the Balkan League, Bulgaria refused to commit to any agreement on the distribution of territorial gains, unlike its deal with Serbia over Macedonia.
Saloniki was up for brags, m8.
people in greek macedonia came back to bulgaria and we got back the lands from romania
even most of vmro/komiti came back to bulgaria
the only ones calling us tatars are the autistic serbomans, which will eventually be impaled on bayonette along with their children :^)
As I stated, Macedonia was largely their clay, no refusal here
But sending troops to Saloniki was pure provocation, I mean I can understand your position and ultimately all three nations reacted excessive and moronic in their specific situations
Yet this memes led to distrust lad, for which Bulgaria wasn't innocent tbqh
Serbia and Bulgaria had no disputes before the war and agreed in regards to Macedonia. Greece also accepted Bulgaria's condition of "winner takes all" for the territories which were not already set between the Serbs and Bulgarians. Greece knew what this implied, but turned on Bulgaria and Serbia followed. The greatest betrayal was on the part of the Serbs. No wonder the Bulgarians have no pan-slavist, pro-Russia delusions.
>Impaling autistic s*bomans
I know a certain population that would be quite interested in an opportunity like that
You are some special kind of Bulgariaboo huh ?
Nothing wrong with our neighbours in 2016, I really like their country, but taking all the blame from them is a little bit naive tbqh
>Greece also accepted Bulgaria's condition of "winner takes all" for the territories which were not already set between the Serbs and Bulgarians
Greeks were first in Salonika
Soon, brate, soon. Bucharest - Sofia - Tirana axis, Veliko Tarnovo will be our Bruxelles. :DDDD
The action of the Conference of Ambassadors in regard to Albania added greatly in the difficulty of the situation, since Serbia was thereby prevented from extending its territory westward to the Adriatic and would be left with only a relatively small recompense for its sacrifices in the war, unless Bulgaria could be induced to consent to a modification of the Serbo-Bulgar treaty of March 13, 1912, a thing to which she was unwilling to agree. Even before the declaration of war Serbia had suggested a rectification of her frontier as outlined in the Serbo-Bulgar treaty of March, 1912. Her demands grew with her victories, with the free hand in Macedonia allowed her and Greece by Bulgaria's preoccupation in Thrace, and with her exclusion from the sea by the creation of Albania. Bulgaria, on the other hand, cared intensely for expansion in Macedonia. Very bitter feeling was generated between Bulgaria and Serbia, culminating in warlike preparations, some actual hostilities, and a final demand on May 25 on the part of Serbia for revision of the treaty of 1912. Meanwhile Serbia had been approaching Greece suggesting conterminous bounds in Macedonia and alliance against Bulgaria, and a final agreement with her was reached on May 19 -- June 1.
Tell me, if you have any reading comprehensibility, who were the ones imposing their greed upon the other?
Ok I understood, we are bloodthirsty monsters my friend
Now you can consider yourself happy, in 1912 and 1922 we slaughtered innocent people, we literally drinked their blood and ate their brains
Luckily Mustafa Kemal existed
I open and stare at her pics every single hour ;_;
greece or bulgaria
but you'll have to fuck tourists for the hot girl part if you go to bulgaria because the hot bulgarian girls are all in brazil
UKIP isn't white
daily reminder that somewhere within the Republic of Bulgaria there's a dank meme themed vehicle
Sorry to break it to you but this is pure populism, like he doesn't give a shit about them but needs the vote. And the niggers who think they're ""British"" use it as validation they have a right to stay there when they do something radical like not voting left. Do you really believe Nigel would let his daughter marry off to a British African or Indian. Nah
>Tfw those memes are old as fuck and it's cheaper to buy a new hood than to remove them
Only if you're a mindless Marxist parrot you are ok with the interracial marriage of your offspring.
I guess your dad wouldn't allow you marry a gypsy girl just as mine wouldn't allow me either.
fantastic patriotic paintjob, but it can't beat the russian themed ones
an old fashioned way to greet someone. Also used in church scripts since it's ancient greek
they're virtuosi because they're blessed by the most charismatic leader since the ancient times
Only Vladimir Putin can inspire the masses like that
>it's seirously inlegal for bulgarians to write š except sh
probably marketing trick
>oy vey we are the greatest muh cambridge and shit
>oy vey everyone wants to go here especially that royalities kid lords and rich kids
>oy vey they are like 1% but others must pay as them cause all oy vey is for that
Also, thanks to Vladimir Putin, Washington DC has been moved to South Carolina
Just imagine what can we achieve if we allow him to take over Eвpoпa
Because colleges are businesses.
They want to suck up as much money as they can.
Which is why, when the US government started giving loans to make more people go to college (in true capitalist fashion, since paying for peoples education is 2gommie4them), the price increased every year.
In Serbia even if you are on the state budget you still gotta pay lots of fucking fees for various administrative bullshit.
My friend paid 900 euros for the tuition, while i paid maybe 150 in books and admin bullshit combined, add another 50 for next semester books, and you'll see just how greedy they are here as well.
>Mexico no longer exists at all, hundreds of miles of beautiful coastline cuts through the Southwest
>South Carolina and apparently nowhere else gets bombed
What a beautiful world. Thank you based Putin.
a gold is wc is a wc, u learn same things from dudes with manners, maybe there are more high class discussions but that have also and bad side cause at one point too far from reality aka topics like poverty from the persons that never experienced that
>go for a walk in the morning
this is what you get for being a cunt tbhfamlad
>you meant tourists. i don't think we have muslim tourists.
>That's not funny m8, it was the most touristy area in istanbul
Well they deserve it for going in Turkey as tourists.
>tfw have been fapping exclusively to my cousin for the past 5 years
you can't escape from this suffering
She's one of those girls that's skinny except where is matters.
Really thin waist and slim legs but somehow her ass is perfect.
Also great hips-to-waist ratio.
Also something incredibly fuckable about her face and personality.
If that's what it takes.
so your cousin is the serbian emily ratajkowski?
>Tits were never my thing anyway.
tits always count, m8. Unless the girl's body type is remi lacroix's