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>Second Balkan Wars started, because Bulgaria wasn't satisfied with this.
What makes Bulgarians such greedy bastards?
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>>53402066
Steppe genes m8.
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>>53402066
they want the moreta
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>>53402066
we would have killed and systematically genocided all greeks and serbs if it wasn't for those sneaky romanians
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>>53402066
this map is wrong, this is the military conquest, not the end boarders
albania was created, also turks only lost to about adrianopol.

>What makes Bulgarians such greedy bastards?
we had a contract with the serbians, that we would keep macedonia, they were the greedy once for not giving it back.

that being said, russia offered to arbitrate, and we should have accepted. out german monarch was too much of a peace of shit tho.

also more on how serbs are untrustworthy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbo-Bulgarian_War

lastly, romania and greece invaded us as well. yet somehow WE "backstabbed everyone", cannot make that shit up.
(we did invede greece, but only because they made a defence agreement with serbia)

lastly, the greeks had a defence agreement with serbia in ww1 as well, but they did not honor it.

everyone's a peace of shit, putting all the blame on us is retarded.
montenegro seems to be the only reasonable one, and probably only because they were too small.
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>>53402538
lastly, we in particular wanted macedonia, because there were bulgarinas living there, but also because it's historically important. one of our medieval capitals is there, and a lot of our song / culture is from there as well.

this is somehow "unreasonable", yet serbs are still crying about kosovo and don't recognize, even tho it's been full of albanians for a while now
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>>53402644
>because there were bulgarinas living there
No such thing in Macedonia :^)
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>>53402860
yeah it's all albanians now
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Why bulgarians can't make a normal latin like serbians and croatians did? SH CH SH is discusting.
Only albanians can use it, because they really have þ ð and etc.
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>>53402921
Well you really had to rub that in my face didn't you
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>Selanik is forever gone
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>>53402538
You yourself mention that Albania was created. How could Serbia reasonably still have ceded all of Macedonia to Bulgaria if that would've left Serbia with virtually no significant expansion besides Kosovo (which only really had symbolic value)?
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>>53403127
i don't give a shit about reasonably we had a deal and they didn't keep it
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>>53403127
>Serbia getting fucked over by Powers is somehow Bulgarias fault
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>>53403127
That was their reasoning too. They wanted to let the Russian Tsar take up the arbitration but:

>The Bulgarian reply to the Russian invitation contained so many conditions that it amounted to an ultimatum, leading Russian diplomats to realize that the Bulgarians had already decided to go to war with Serbia. That caused Russia to cancel the arbitration initiative and to angrily repudiate its 1902 treaty of alliance with Bulgaria. Bulgaria was shattering the Balkan League, Russia's best defense against Austrian-Hungarian expansionism, a structure that had cost Russia so much blood, money and diplomatic capital during the last 35 years. Russia's Foreign Minister Sazonov's exact words to Bulgaria's new Prime Minister Stoyan Danev were "Do not expect anything from us, and forget the existence of any of our agreements from 1902 until present."
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>>53403127
symbolic values is what matters more. why to do think they don't recognize kovoso's independance today. why do you think greeks still cry for constantinopole. why to you think israel was created. etc

>you yourself mentioned
and nobody else did. everyone repeats the same bullshit story of how they're all victims, and we're aggressors.
>how to serbia cede it
they were a member of the balkan league, the point of the war was to defeat the ottomans, not go back on contracts and make military alliances against bulgaria. as i linked to you, they had already invaded us, this is just part of their constant anti-bulgarian policies.

like i said, we should have accepted russian arbitration

>>53403194
we didn't exactly keep it either. tho we killed and died more, and liberated more land than the serbs, we did request their assistance at odrin, also we were not supposed to attack constantinopole, this was also idiotic, and lastly WE were supposed to liberate macedonia. losing it is our own fault.

not to mention the fact the macedonian revolutionary movements didn't even know what they were fighting for, and were generally not too bothered to be ruled by serbs.
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>>53403372
>Bulgaria was shattering the Balkan League, Russia's best defense against Austrian-Hungarian expansionism, a structure that had cost Russia so much blood, money and diplomatic capital during the last 35 years.
-t. emotional argument

the russians knew they couldn't control our retarded german monarchy, so they decided to trade us for the serbs.
mind you we didn't declare war on russia in ww2 (and i think 1), yet they still occupied us.

also where was russia when yugoslavia was being bombed.
>inb4 hurr durr communists
the russians WERE the communists
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>>53403372
Ferdinand I really fucked up.

Leading up to the Second Balkan War the Russians very explicitly spelled out for Bulgaria that it was extremely likely that Romania and Turkey would invade and that Russia would do nothing to stop them. The Russians infuriated the Serbs by basically forcing them to arbitration, which likely meant the ceding of significant parts of Macedonia to Bulgaria.

What does Ferdinand do? He makes war on both Serbia and Greece and to do that he denudes the entire east of troops.

And all that for the immense pleasure of gaining marginally more Macedonian villages.
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>>53403498
All I am saying is that the decision to start a war (instead of accepting the arbitration with which he probably would've gained AT LEAST something) was really stupid. Instead he just lost what Bulgaria already had.
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>>53403613
we went to war for bulgarian land and the bulgarians living there, not for some villages
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>>53403498
>>53403750
not to mention >>53403613
There is no way the Bulgarian leadership was that dumb that they didn't expect, if not Romania, at least Turkey to use the opportunity and invade to gain back what they lost just recently.
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>>53403823
>There is no way the Bulgarian leadership was that dumb
idk
it was p fucking dumb
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>>53403844
well that can explain a lot then :D
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>>53402538
It was all logical. Bulgaria got too strong, so they decided to fuck your shit up, that Bulgaria never been able to recover again.
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>>53403823
>they didn't expect
they expected greece, and were fully prepared to fight both serbia and greece with the coals burning hot in the brake-less rape train

too bad the shitskins ruined it all
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>>53402066
>Bulgaria wasn't satisfied with this

They weren't satisfied because they wanted this (pic related)

and they took it at the end...
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>>53402066

If you think you can take it all, you do it. How hard is that to understand?
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>>53404519
BIG BULGAR COCK FOR FERTILE GREEK WOMB
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>>53402066
It started because the Serbs wouldn't withdraw from the so called "uncontested" zone of Macedonia as defined by a secret agreement signed with the formation of the Balkan League. You can see this on the map in your post as the black line running roughly from Kriva Palanka to Ohrid. The uncontested zone consists of everything south of this line, and was promised to Bulgaria.
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>>53404572
The uncontested zone was actually between the two red lines.
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>>53404764

-> >>53404976
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>>53404976
the upper red line is the contested zone, m8. The one on OP's map shows the uncontested
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>>53404976
>>53405042
contested*
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>>53402066
They had an unquenchable thrist for Moretas
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>>53402066
Serbians are funny
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>>53406185
Balkan posters are insane.
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>>53409732
Damn what a retard.
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