It's a joke when everyone pays taxes to fund some random family that marries local peasants. They were a good investment when royal marriages between countries meant peace and great economic relations. Now it's a bunch of guys and girls with a lot of pride and very little prestige.
>>53316648 I'm pretty sure our monarch holds a lot more power than people give him credit. It's just all behind the scenes.
What the King and our ministers discuss is a state secret. And if our King wouldn't sign a law or elect a mayor or judge or whatever it would be the ministers head, so they would never disagree with each other.
In fact, according to our constitution it's forbidden for our ministers and King to disagree with each other.
>>53317133 i'm pretty sure he signs without even reading doesn't mean your country's king can't be interested in politics or how to influence in them. but nowadays most royalty are ambassators, they can't just impose their will without the people making a fuss "OMG WE SO OPPRESSED!"
I think monarchs play an important role in the stability of a nation, but not as they are today. They need actual power to dissolve parliament etc. The monarch should be a figure head who only exercises power then parliament fails to listen to the people. They must also sign off on all acts of parliament, and so have a duty to never sign off on an act that limits the existing rights of the people.
I'm shit at explaining stuff but yeah my opinion.
I also think though that it should be inherited differently. We should only have kings, and each king should be allowed as many wifes as they please. This means they have dozens of kids, and they should choose the brightest child as their heir.
>>53317254 doesn't contradict what i said but again, doesn't mean he's not really interested. he could exert soft power by, for example, refusing to sign without renegotiating. of course he would not refuse officially, because it'd be an scandal. hence 'soft' power
>>53317129 how can they pay taxes if they get their money VIA taxes?? do they run business on the side?
>>53317518 >Good to have some history of that, so they won't take it for granted. You should watch this
Every year in the State Opening of Parliament, the Queen's messenger (called Black Rod because of the rod he carries), walks to the House of Commons and the doors are slammed shut in his face. This tradition reminds is to remind the Monarch that Parliament is in charge and they can never enter the Commons. Monarchs were banned from the Commons after Charles I tried, and failed, to arrest some MPs hundreds of years ago.
Also in the same day, the Monarch has to sit in the Lords wearing a heavy crown and read out Government's to-do list. This is actually a humiliation for the Monarch, as it reminds them that the Government makes the rules not the Monarch. It's very deliberate, this tradition, every year their lack of power is demonstrated to them, but at the same time every respect is accorded to the Monarch. It's interesting
>>53317497 years ago with the PIGS and all that economical crisis, they made an example of the royalty and cut their expenses dunno if they raised their expenses nowadays (with Kate coming in and what not) or they're still managing themselves with austerity
>>53317718 I think she accepts it, I don't think she is racist or would want a white only UK or anything. She is relatively progressive though, always has been. I imagine she is old enough to appreciate just how huge the change has been but I don't get the feeling she is disgusted with it. She is definitely not very conservative. Just look at Prince 'Climate Change caused ISIS' Charles, her son.
I'm not sure if the Palace's money was cut. What I do know is that today, the money they receive is a % of the revenue raised by their estates for the taxpayer. So if they keep 5% (I have no idea what the real % is), and their estates become more profitable, then their income increases
Also, the Royal Family has a large amount of privately-owned stuff, in addition to the publicly-owned palaces and castles. I imagine those bring in a lot of money.
>>53318478 Our type of government started to take shape much earlier, but when William of Orange became King in 1688, there must have been some fusion of traditions. In fact the Glorious Revolution is when the Monarch's power started to seriously decline, and Parliament gained the upper hand. That event was very good for the country
>>53318633 During that time we were still a republic.
I think our system resembles the American one a lot.Our parliament is the house of representatives, which are directly elected by the people. Our senate aren't elected by the people, but by politicians from the twelve provincial states.
The only role of the senate is to check if new laws are legal and constitutional.
>>53316571 No. Then you're choosing some dickhead that is already wealthy, to be the semi-dictator of a country and was chosen by God to do so. Do you believe that? It's cool to have some tough battle-hardened leaders of the kingdom when you're reading history books, but nowadays it has no use at all and is the most anti-democratic thing one can imagine.
I feel sorry for the Austrian and greek nobles. they are'nt recognised by their own nation. And the greek king lives in sad solace in an apartement rented to him by the daughter of the man who threw him out.
>>53318761 >>53318883 It's closer to the original American system than the one that exists today. Today the US Senate is directly elected by the people, but before 1913 it was elected by politicians from state legislatures.
Revealed: The obscure law that allows Prince Charles to set off nuclear bombs without fear of criminal punishment
John Kirkhope's research paper reveals Prince Charles' legal benefits The Prince of Wales is also exempt from breaching Data Protection Act Special privileges thanks to his title as Duke of Cornwall Dr Kirkhope is a visiting research fellow at University of Plymouth
By Joseph Curtis For Mailonline
Published: 14:49, 27 December 2015 | Updated: 04:53, 28 December 2015
An obscure law allows the Prince of Wales to set off nuclear bombs without fear of punishment, a new study has revealed.
Prince Charles is also exempt from punishment for breaching the Data Protection Act and has better legal protection over his properties than other landowners.
>>53320465 >Revealed: The obscure law that allows Prince Charles to set off nuclear bombs without fear of criminal punishment Our constitution simply states: "The King is inviolable. The ministers are responsible"
>>53318932 >It's closer to the original American system than the one that exists today. Today the US Senate is directly elected by the people, but before 1913 it was elected by politicians from state legislatures.
Not everyone had the vote it wasn't trusted that the poor or women could have a say of course this is wrong, anyway
look up rotten boroughs for how this system was historically abused.
>>53317875 >they made an example of the royalty and cut their expenses
they increased them here and the allowances of our politicians whilst making cuts in the recession.
which means nothing as she can still effectively dissolve parliament at any time, all politicians must swear allegiance to her and their is a chamber of unelected lords chosen by the queen to rule britain upon which the populace have no control.
In this unelected group we have several rothschilds and the head of british petroleum. and thats just being conservative.
"Travelling incognito, the Queen wore a raincoat, headscarf and glasses as she took the one and a half mile trip around the grounds of a stately home in Hampshire's New Forest.
The Queen, wrapped in a grey raincoat, was visiting the home of her friend Leopold de Rothschild, who drove the small engine.
The 80-year-old merchant banker is a keen railway enthusiast and shares his passion for steam with the Queen.
John Anderson who showed her the progress made by a Yew tree she planted four years ago."
>>53321259 >In this unelected group we have several rothschilds and the head of british petroleum. and thats just being conservative. That group, alongside the rest of the nobility, is the sole reason UK has not been trying to get into EU. And why there is a large anti EU pressure in UK, even when most of the normal politicans want to join the EU to get another 5-10 years of cushy Pension sitting in Brussel.
All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.
This is a 4chan archive - all of the shown content originated from that site. This means that 4Archive shows their content, archived. If you need information for a Poster - contact them.
If a post contains personal/copyrighted/illegal content, then use the post's [Report] link! If a post is not removed within 24h contact me at firstname.lastname@example.org with the post's information.