Do you think african Americans have their own caste system like

>>53309376
girl on the left looks better, desu.

>Do you think african Americans have their own caste system like India
Short answer: No.

> the average African american looks African
What state were you in?

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African americans on the streets

>>53309610
Well Tyrone, I was in New York city

>>53309651
Then you were probably seeing actual Africans. Or Jamaicans.

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Is there light-skinned preferences in women in low income black communities? Yes

Does that mean it's a caste? No, mostly because legally we are all black and secondly Indian castes aren't based on color and never has been.

>African Americans look African

Well Africans very dramatically, so sure maybe. I know many black Americans who look like this Wolof woman, myself included

>>53309714
You a woman, m8? If so pls be in London

>>53309679
Agreed.
>>53309651
I lived there for five years, I can say black Americans with only black American ancestry are a rare like 10% of the black population.

they do actually

they want light skin but resent those that have light skin

>>53309747
>10%
Let's not get crazy now. It's at least 25%.

>>53309755
1. Wrong

2. Partially wrong

>>53309755
>using this generalization for millions of people at a time of the greatest black empowerment movement since the 60's

>>53309777
>>53309780
oh look the nigger experts come out of the wordwork

so tell me niggers what do you want?

>>53309792
>ask question
>get answer
>get mad
Nothing from you.
[ - ]

>>53309815
Raven Symone is not black.

>>53309829
She sure does like playing black roles my black senpai

>>53309777
No, all the 1/4 Puerto Ricans/Dominicans , half Jamaicans/Antiguans/Barbadians/Nigerians, etc....

The number of black Americans with a Jewish, Irish or Italian grandparent there.

10% seems about right.

>>53309854
White people play Asians in movies. Does that make them Asian now?

>>53309861
We'll agree to disagree.

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>>53309780
>the greatest black empowerment movement since the 60's

>>53309899
She is Trinidadian and a dougla to boot
>>53309831
She has a Jewish father
>>53309829
She is a Louisiana Creole, like the rest of us she is black just like Black Americans.

>>53309930
Shitty excuse. Most "black" actors are typecasted for movie roles. Thats so Rafin was a predominatly African American show, and so was the Cosby Show.

>>53310013
All except for Raven idemtify as black as a result of the one drop rule which blacks support. They all benefited from affirmative action which gave blacks certain previleges. They are black according to many African Americans I know

>>53310084
Raven identifies as "American" that doesn't make her not black. The two do not cancel out each other, she doesn't see herself as an Africa and if you actually listened to her you'd know that.

We are black not because of Affirmative Action dumbass, we are black because of our history and our own evolving ethnogenesis.

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This first interraicla kiss on television

african-americans aren't the only ones live in nyc these days anymore m8

you could've seen any type of black there

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>>53310183
Actress who played the role is a mongrel

>>53310180
What are you talking about, I was responding to the other paoter who said they didnt identify as black retard.

>>53310013

>>53310232
I'm both those posts. I'm not saying they aren't black, I'm saying they aren't examples of Black Americans except for Raven.

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African american protest

>>53309714
I was talking about how light skin blacks are overrepresented in positions of power or in hollywood you fuktard. How they are seen as better when it comes to the dating heirachy in black communities.

>>53310375
Well it's mostly a white and Jewish industry and we have a lot of evidence of light skin bias by White people. Sure some black people have biases but that bias comes from white preference.

>>53309376
Colorism/racism is a HUGE issue within the black community.

Invariably, light-skinned black people with whiter features are seen as the most attractive. Because Euro admixture is so high over here, there are a ton of those people.

This especially hurts black women, because they're seen as undesirable for being dark skinned even though black men are often praised by black women for having dark skin. Dark skinned men are also more accepted by white society than dark skinned women.

>>53310426
So there is a racial heirachy in the black community

>>53310426
>White and Jewish

sjw/nazi pls

Ashkenazi Jews are some of the whitest people on the planet

>>53309899
She's not African American and is actually 1/4 Indian

>>53310501
Thank you for clearing that up senpai

>>53310546
Thats not the point, she represents black females in hip hop and ironicaly her non black ancestry gives her social currency in the pro black . community.

>>53310517
It's not just Ashi, Mizrahim Jews as well.

I'm an Ethiopian Jew, I tend to pool Jews together across racial lines because of the social ties we have push each other up down there.
>>53310578
She faces the same hurdles as black women, she just also is perceived as slightly more acceptable.

>>53310734
Selam, Konjo Ethiopian jewish women

>>53310180
Lol Raven talsk hit about Blacks all the itme.
Espeically the ones that fostered and nutured her when she was young.

Bitch goes out an insults black names when her name is a black name in of itself (Symoné is not how you spell that)

>>53310734
But shes also continueing to perpetuate a system that puts those with white features on top. Mongrel women are just contributing the problem of black representation in the media and the beauty standards in black communities.

No there's not a "racial hierarchy" because African Americans for the most part have the same racial admixture. There's a color divide though.

Lightskins vs. Darkskins

Lightskins may be seen as slightly more desirable due to Eurocentric beauty standards but darkskins are not left out.

>>53310809
She doesn't have white features though, she has African-Indian features
>>53310755
.......

>>53310847
tsk Semantics, she has non african features.

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>>53309376
>>53309376
Black American here

Lightskin women (or mixed black women in general) are undoubtedly better and more desirable than darkskin or fully black women for a few reasons:
>better looking (yeah yeah muh beauty standards deal with it)
>better attitudes
>smarter
>more feminine
It's amazing what a little bit of nonblack DNA can do to a woman.

pic related is your typical "black" girl on American TV

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>>53310893
In the USA the girl on the right would be much more desirable than the girl on the left, even though they're both pretty.
It's kinda sad but it's the truth

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>>53310893
Fuck off senpai

Lightskins have never been that great. The only reason lightskins may be slightly preferred is because of white devil American propaganda.

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>>53310927
In America yes but in the grand scheme of things fuck no.

Most outside Amerikkka would prefer the left for being more exotic.

>>53310847
I thought Ethiopian Jews know Amharic?

>>53310932
> WE WUZ KINGS N SHIT THEN EVUL WHITEY CAME

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>>53310974
Did I trigger you Sven? What I said was true. People here have a hard-on for anything lightskinned.

Beautiful dark skinned black women who would be fawned over in places like Europe or Africa are always dumped in the trash here.

>>53310927
Most famous black woman in the USA (and the world)- lightskin who sometimes dyes her hair blonde. Again, sad but true.

>>53310932
You can get mad but you know it's true.

>slightly preferred
lol, dat denial/10. Make a twitter account and go see how your fellow black men treat lightskin women vs. darkskin women

>>53310946
>Most outside Amerikkka would prefer the left for being more exotic.
I have a hard time believing this, especially considering the fact that both of those girls are from the same African country.

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>>53310927
>>53311042
god fucking dammit forgot the pic

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>>53310946
>>53310932
>>53311021
Topkek..When it coes to Africa, most people want East African women for obvious reasons

>>53311021
no one wants a dark skin girlfriend ok. Hell no one even wants a light skin girlfriend... at least not in Scandinavia

>>53311021
I like lightskinned women because I like to imagine their great grandmother being raped on a plantation.

>>53310951
Not Ethiopian Jews adopted by liberal Ashkenazim from the US.

Obviously I know Selam, it's the same in Arabic. You just wrote something fedora tippish.
>>53310879
She has Ethiosomali-like features which are African.

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>>53311063

>>53311063
HNNNGH

>>53311075
We all know that's a lie.

Let's talk about Rachel Dolezal

>>53311134
It's a shame how Bruce Jenner can be a woman if he wants, but Rachel can't be black. Not very progressive imo

>>53311081
Selam is hello, most habesha langauges are semitic which is why we share some word with arabic. Im half ethiopian by the way
http://selamselam.me/2014/11/24/the-two-most-important-words-in-the-amharic-language/

And no, Ethiopians are mixed race because od the distance between in the Arab peninsula and HOA is only a few kilometres and there was always trade and cu,tural exchange between the two regions. Thats why Ethiopia has one of the first Jewish, Christian and Islamic communities.

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>>53310501
100% accurate post that shouldn't hurt any feelings.

>>53310893
Also 100% accurate but will trigger some darkskin women.
Whatever, the truth is the truth.

>>53311042
>I have a hard time believing this, especially considering the fact that both of those girls are from the same African country.

In that pick with the two women fuck no. >>53310927

>>53311063
>most people want East African women for obvious reasons

Might as well marry a ME/Euro woman and not deal with the baggage.

>>53311217
>When it comes to Africa

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>>53311084
Ethiopian jewish woman

>>53311228
and most people are ignorant about Africa and probably can't tell that Ethiopia and Sierra Leone are a continents' width apart.

>>53311249
looks like a gyppo

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>>53311160
We are predominately Ethio-Somali and our ancestors made up such a significant effect in the Arabian peninsula we created the Modern South Arabian languages.

>>53311258
>google ethiopian women
>some of them are good-looking

>google Sierra Leone women
>all ugly Africans
Well that didn't matter at all now did it?

>>53310737

Mariah Carey's white/latina isn't she

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>>53311100
No. But the skin color isnt whats important as long as she isnt pitch black, what makes dark skins unattractive is the bantu facial features - wide noses and huge lips. Even light skinned african americans can have those facial features...

People dont like the looks of bantu blacks in general. Well horn african blacks arent really popular either but at least more so than bantu blacks.

Remember Europe is still 90-95 % white or something despite memes, the norm is white sun tanned skin + blue eyes.

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>>53311268
Nope

>>53311364
>5 seconds on google
50% Irish, the rest Black and Cuban

>>53311314
That's our finest you see anon.
Thing is relatively in the media we are invisible barring the occasional model minority paraded around or the hottest fashion model that is paraded around for being a beautiful fashion model before she is thrown in the bin with every other non-white model because fashion is /pol/ the industry.

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>>53311377
>>53311268
and technically youre a hybrid race, not black or white sonce the mixing hstarted 10s of thousands of years ago which is why Ethiopians look wierd for mutts

>>53311374
Bantu is a language group nimrod.

>>53311432
Races didn't even exist back then let alone non of the modern ethnic groups of today even existing back then.

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>>53311466
Kek

>>53311249
We vary dramatically family to family >>53311377
You didn't read the study, simplistic admixture models and recent admixture models are not accurate given the genetic information.
>>53311441
>>53311466

Thank you, been awhile :3
>>53311432
We aren't merely hybrids, we're very ancient Afrasians.

>>53311423
It's very safe to assume that most women of any African country are quite ugly

>fashion is /pol/ the industry.
Go make an African fashion show then and stop complaining about the traditionally European/white American fashion shows if you don't fit the part (i.e. if you don't look European). All of the non-white girls in these shows still look European and there's nothing wrong with that

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>>53311561
pic to illustrate point

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>>53311541
wateva man. I dojntcare anymore. How did you did you end up with Ashkenazi parents

>>53311561
Oluchi, Alek, Atuai, Grace, Amilna, Maria, Betty etc... African models are quite statements. It's a racist industry for sure but that doesn't mean we aren't also creating change ourselves, it's tokenism that's the biggest issue not recognition of African beauty
>>53311632
There were many orphans after the escape to Sudan were the artists were at, I got picked up a few months after the airlifts.

>>53311695
*camps were at

I got distracted :-P

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>>53311695
>it's tokenism that's the biggest issue not recognition of African beauty
Elaborate pls.
It is my understanding that without this modern acquiescence to "diversity" there would be no women of African descent in fashion shows and very few African models in the USA since we're still a majority white country with European beauty standards.

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>>53311851

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>>53311929

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>>53311851
How can you even compete my friend

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>>53312069
>4:20 am
I can't, I'm going to bed. Later

>>53311851
Yves was pushing literal African royalty and upper class girls to be his models since the 70s.

Princess Margeret of England brought out Princess Elizabeth of Toro to NYC to begin her career; Katoucha began with Mugler before becoming Yves muse; Rebecca Ayoko was smash hit and discovered in Paris.

The early 90's to early 00's was very varied, it was an amazing era that showcased the world's beauty but then things just changed in the post 9/11 World somehow.


This isn't a fight for something that never happened before, though to be fair by the mid-90's the notion of more than 1 black top model was kind of seen as crazy. Many super models though.