All Wends were in cahoots with Iranics. Vandals roamed Africa together with Alans. Slovenes made Wends Slavs together with Antes ( their descendants the Andi still live as a small tribe in the Caucasus today, they're muslims now though). Truth accepted by academics today
read Florin Curta
also read Tacitus, Pliny the Elder, Strabo, Winefried Paul, Jordanes... the classic sources, it's pretty obvious
instead of quoting wikipedia, which is full of contradictory information.
Also, did you know the Latvian flag is the flag of the local Vents (Wends) tribe (near Ventpils)?
In fact only Wends who didn't accept Old Slovene (Sklavenoi) language can today still call themselved Wends.
Poles used to be Lechites who spoke Germanic, but after adopting Slavonic they became Slavs. Wends that didn't adopt it, known today as Balts, are in fact the true Wends.
Nevertheless, Finns and Estonians still call Russians Wends. The Estonian and Finnish names for Russia - Venemaa and Venäjä - originate from the name of the Venedi/Venethi
(Also, Lithuanians call Belarusians 'guddi' which refers to Goths).
The one thing Poles have on other Slavs, is that they really were the Vandals of antiquity. They were total germanboo then though.
>>53308514 All Slavs are Wends, but not all Wends are Slavs.
Again, before the 6th century, Wends adopted this name, a lot of Venedic tribes called themselves Wends.
Langobards were originally called Winnili/Windili, also Wends. They became Langobards after a victory against their main and more populous rival Lugii/Vandals, where their women had to cut off their hair and wear it as false beards, to give the impression that they were men.
I do think classical history on the Germanic tribes should be re-written with an emphasis on the proto-Slavic, Wend tribes who adopted Germanic habits and culture partly (still cremated their dead).
Slav comes from slovo = word, Slovenes were the Slav-spreaders. Also one of the tribes that found Russia (see Primary Chronicle).
Thanks to the Slovenes and their Iranic buddies you and most other Wends don't speak a Germanic or Baltic language now, but an "Indo-Iranoid" one
The Lugi(i)/Lygii/Lugiones/Lougoi (Lech) aka Wandili were composed of several tribes with similar habits (Przeworsk culture, cremation) one of them were called the Silesii, synonymous to the Nahanarvali mentioned by Tacitus.
The trunk Wend-/Wand-/Vent-/Vand- present in Venedi/Venethi/Wends/Vandals/Wandili/Winnili is Germanic and means wanderer (wand-erer). Tacitus mentions amongst others how they liked to travel great distances on foot.
Their alliance (in reality they had to pay tribute to) nomadic Iranics from Sarmatians and Alans to (probably Iranic) Avars lasted for many centuries. Title in Africa was "King of the Vandals and the Alans". The buttbuddies Slovenes/Antes etc...
>>53308538 During 6th century Slovenes and Antes decided to unify Wends by making them adopt Slovene language, from then on they are called Slavs.
Those that didn't adopt Slovene are called Balts now.
Wends was a germanic term, but they used it to refer to themselves (see Samo's Wend kingdom). Romans considered Wends, Lugii/Vandals, Peucini/Bastarnae a fifth kind of germanics who were strongly influenced by Sarmatian blood and habits.
Pre-6th century Wends, especially those bordering Germanic tribes, often adopted Germanic language and culture. Lugii (Lechites) aka Wandali spoke Germanic and prayed to "Godan" and Frea.
After part of the Lugi migrated (including part of Silesii) the Wends from the East filled their place. That was the time when Slovenes went around pushing their language upon the Wend, making them Slavs.
You can differentiate Wends from Germanics to the fact that they cremated their dead. German-speaking Lugii/Vandals and Bastarnae also did that, while 'true' Germanics did not. Early Slavs continued to cremate their dead.
Lugii: Przeworsk culture (3th century BC - 5th century AD) between upper Vistula and Oder extending to south towards middle Danube = Wandal/Wend --> cremated their dead
] In the late 5/6th century, the Prague-Korchak culture appears in the Vistula basin -> Wends from the east (who adopted Slovene) = early Slavs ; also cremation
Source and recommended reading (most recent authority on the subject) Florin Curta, The making of the Slavs history & archeology 500 - 700 AD
>>53308115 They're Slavs with a unique culture that blends aspects of German culture, the indigenous culture of Central Europe, and the culture of the Eastern European Slavic homeland.
Bohemia was briefly Germanic-speaking before the new Slavic upper-class brought a new language, but before this it was inhabited by a variety of Celtic peoples, who themselves supplanted the language of the region's indigenous peoples.
>>53309047 >Bohemia was briefly Germanic-speaking before the new Slavic upper-class brought a new language, but before this it was inhabited by a variety of Celtic peoples, who themselves supplanted the language of the region's indigenous peoples. Yes, but it doesn't mean that people that were living in Bohemia weren't proto-Czechs lad.
>>53309558 Yes, thank you. Many posters on /int/ and especially /pol/ hold the outdated and absurd view that the cultures of the world are basically RPG races -- genetically distinct and homogeneous, and permanently bound to a certain language and culture.
I've met people who sincerely insisted that "the English are a Germanic people and thus racially distinct from the Celtic Scots".
>>53311079 That's such a skewed view, it wasn't that austrians tried to eliminate Czech per se, but since they were the one in power, German was language used in public area/official deals, so Czech became redundant over time and people started to abandon it for way more useful German, it wasn't some sort of conspiracy.
It's basically to what happenes to plenty of natives around the worlds. White guys arrive, take over the land and now they have to live with them and of course, eventually their native languages become obsolete to their life and they adopt the new language completely, it's just natural process.
Also I didn't expect someone to imply that being slavic/germanic would be based off language, instead some kind of genetic harritage, which seems like the more reasonable scenario.
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Slavs, is in fact, Wends and Slavs, or as I've recently taken to calling it, masterrace and slavshits. Slavs are not an ethnic group unto itself, but merely a linguistic group made useful by based Wends, a vital group thanks to which Europe exists. Many /int/ users mistake Wends for Slavs every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the Wendish group is often called "Slavs", and many of /int/olerants are not aware that it is basically the Wends, a Central European masterrace. There really are Slavs, but Wends are no part of it. Wends are different, much more advanced and developed. This is essential for you to realize. Slavs often include Wends, but basically it's Slavs with Wends added. All the so called "Western Slavs" are really Wends.
>>53311331 >being slavic/germanic would be based off language, instead some kind of genetic harritage why not? Genetic heritage in Czechia and Austria is nearly the same, only difference is that one country speak Czech and consider itself Slavic, other German and Germanic.
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