- on that capture of narco Chapo
Take a victory lap!
Is on news now
It still matters though. The alternative would be to do nothing.
No one expects to stop drug use. But you still have to enforce law. Just because you can't stop murder doesn't mean you dont put murderers in jail.
I doubt they will. I don't blame them, it would make them look incapable of holding him, and they should not do anything to appear weak. He is captured again, that's what matters, not that he has escaped so often.
It could not have been easy to catch him so often. The rule of law and the state standing up for itself is important. They deserve some pride in their effort and success.
I personally hope the fucker dies in jail. He wont escape the coffin. I have no patience for what narcos have done to our neighbors.
because you fuckers keep making them and smuggling them over the border. you should stop that
just look at the opium wars. you really going to blame the evil chinese for buying opium from the innocent brits?
>white American drug dealers get by without beheadings and other savagery
>Mexigore harkens back to old Aztec practices
When are you faggots going to admit that black markets are NOT automatically violent? This is more about Mexican and Latin American culture than it is about the narco trade.
mexico should honestly legalize cocaine, meth and related shit along with colombia and flood usa with drugs so much so that you end up coughing the coke that wnet up your ass (all 350 million usamericans)
they want him sent here so he will actually stay locked up
we went through this back when he was caught in the first place. the US offered to try him in our courts and keep him in our prisons and the Mexicans refused and surprise surprise he makes an impossible escape that could only have happened with the help or permission of the prison itself. In fact after his escape the US offered to help track him down and the mexicans refused
So who are the big players in the narco trade in Mexico now?
I have trouble keeping up with who is who in the cartels. Is it Jalisco? Knights Templar?
You serve your sentence for crimes committed in the US before being deported iirc.
After that it's either release them onto our soil where they couldn't legally be to begin with or send them back where they came from.
But obviously you have no problem with profiting from high profile scientists from other countries.
Of course you're at fault.
They were your kids. You messed them up.
Mexico didn't even know what the fuck is happening and got steamed over by your messed up youth you simply ditched.
WHY HAS MEXICO TO CLEAN UP YOUR SHIT?
>they became brutal in the US
lol, you really think all the beheaders are formally deported illegals?
at least our drug dealers just shoot each other, we dont kidnap a bus of people and make them fight to the death gladiator style
Its not such a bad idea really, to legalize them and make them affordable to anyone who wants them for about 2-3 years.
It would cull the herd of junkies, and make an example to the survivors.
>But obviously you have no problem with profiting from high profile scientists from other countries.
They come here legally, Narcos don't
>Clean up your mess
It's their fault they act like animals over money
>Of course you're at fault.
What rhe fuck are you talking about you dumb nigger? They were not out kids, they were Mexicans.
Are you so fuckinf stupid you think countries can deport their own citizens?
It's not about what I believe, it's a causal chane that's provable with chronological records.
As I said and implied already, Mexico wasn't prepared and lacked the infrastructure to compete with such developments.
They still can't handle it. I'm sure they will soon.
> you think countries can deport their own citizens?
People anywhere can be corrupted. Rich and poor alike.
why dont the Mexicans just shoot him in the back of head. Mexico is literally becoming worst than the middle east.
im saying mexico and colombia should purpsoedly flood usa with drugs, dumbymerican. opium war v2, so much so that your social fabric shatters and creates the apocalyptical crisis that you deserve for being the main consumer of drug markets and promoter of drug violence since the cold war
>im saying mexico and colombia should purpsoedly flood usa with drugs, dumbymerican. opium war v2, so much so that your social fabric shatters
Nah that wouldn't happen. Everyone who wanta to do drugs already does drugs, it's not like the fucking things are in anyway difficult to get.
All that would happen is it would make a lot of people very happy because their drugs would be cheaper, myself included.
But what I am saying is that it doesnt matter how much of a reputation he has. Corruption by definition wins influence anywhere.
He may not have as much reputation here. But his people can contact, bribe or threaten relevant people all the same.
I dont think his ability to corrupt is any better or worse in the US. The only advantage we might have is our organization and redundancy in physical security.
Perhaps what you mean is the *culture* of corruption. So far, ours is pretty limited to upper government; lower government has so many redundancies that it is more difficult to get away with, and so the culture of corruption hasn't emerged there so much.
Once it does, it becomes a serious problem. When people start thinking it is normal and they can get away with it, it inflates quickly. Then you have to do a lot of work to get rid of it and get everyone back on 'the same sheet of music'.
It depends on how you look at all this.
The sticking point is how you view the cartels.
If you look at them as criminals, then you can say there is a lot of criminal influence in the government.
The problem with this is that while the law considers the cartels to be criminals, the cartels are so big and integrated into the economy and government of the people that in practice, they are more like large feudal families. When so many people are breaking a law to the point where it can't be effectively enforced, then the people have a harder time regarding it as 'criminal' in the same way we struggled for so long to see marijuana as being really criminal. Another example might be the cultural rejection of early 20th century Americans to see alcohol bootleggers as committing a crime. The crime only really was noticeable when they enforced their trade, and resorted to violence.
So if you dismiss the actual trade as criminal, the cartels are more like powerful feudal families and corporations, and there is the same overlap you would find in any politically charged business, like tobacco and coal lobbyists here.
So the economics and politics merge, whether you consider them criminal or not.
This is dangerous for the Mexican people, because the law criminalizing such a powerful influence creates all this corruption, which then de-legitimizes the power of the state to manage peace, safety and dignity of honest citizens.
It is almost like a civil war, but the political goal is not to take responsibility for governance, just to stay in business.
No matter what happens, the powerful and rich will remain in control. Its just a question of where the money comes from. But there is no way to keep all that money, influence and connections out of the Mexican government. Deals have to keep being made...
... And because of the US drug appetite and our willingness to keep spending money on drugs, it will remain a lucrative trade and continue to be a problem for Mexican stability.
The instability and hindrance on development are also a problem. Because it prevents the one thing that might actually shift power: more money from other enterprises.
If some other economic sector of Mexico could grow, it might produce a power class with enough money to overwhelm the narcos. Perhaps oil might emerge.
Or it may end up being a basic political division in geography that could unite people, but that is harder Mexico City seems to have a hard time maintaining order in their north. It always seems like they are just barely hanging on to it, and dont seem like they afford the same care and concern about the regions of the north like they do towards the regions closer to the capitol. This creates all sorts of problems.
How many people are going to be brutally murdered in public for revealing his location?
He has too much money there, and protection.
He can't leave the life behind I guess. He would have to leave his money and all the friends who depend on his money behind.
He could take a bunch of money and just walk away.
But then he would be a rich nobody.
Its the greed. He would rather risk spending his life in jail to feel popular in his own world than simply take the money and walk away.
Greed is its own sort of madness. He will never escape his own self image in his head because he doesnt know how. His reality is his identity in his head. He doesn't know how to live any other way because he is now unable to see value in anything besides living up to the reputation of El Chapo.
This is what greed does to people. It makes them so insane that they cant see answers right in front of them.