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- on that capture of narco Chapo

Take a victory lap!
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Is on news now

http://www.livenewschat.eu/politics/
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>>53291145
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Only for el barto to take advantage of the power vacuum and repeat the cycle

More news at 11
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>>53291304

It still matters though. The alternative would be to do nothing.

No one expects to stop drug use. But you still have to enforce law. Just because you can't stop murder doesn't mean you dont put murderers in jail.
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>>53290311
>>53291145
>>53291230
>>53291492
te zarpas en chicano pa
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Unless they send him to the usa hell escape again, and they wont
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>>53290311
But its just meh. Its really nothing besides somebody betrayed him. And if ghey dont put him on plane to USA right now he will escape again. Nothing to be actually proud
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>>53291492
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>>53290311
Hopefully they have the good sense to extradite him here this time.
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It's a statement and a signal to the Mexican people.
Neighbours also seem happy.

Special respect to Chapo nevertheless, impressivel.

Good move Mexico.
Go hard.
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Why don't they just extradite him here?
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>>53291595
EPN sucks Obama dick. He will be presurred to send him
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>>53291704
Stupid mexican pride
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>>53291704
Because they know what we do to folks like him
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>>53291595
I'm giving him a month until he escapes again
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you know your country is shit when you celebrate capturing a high profile criminal
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>>53290311
He's just going to escape again.
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They same people against immigration because they don't want to pay for immigrants are they same people who want him sent here to pay for him..
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>>53291704
same reason blacks have a no-snitch code: they identify with criminals more than with decent people
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>>53291844
>when you celebrate capturing a high profile criminal for the third time
*ftfy
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>>53291844
...for the third time.
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>>53291699

I doubt they will. I don't blame them, it would make them look incapable of holding him, and they should not do anything to appear weak. He is captured again, that's what matters, not that he has escaped so often.

It could not have been easy to catch him so often. The rule of law and the state standing up for itself is important. They deserve some pride in their effort and success.

I personally hope the fucker dies in jail. He wont escape the coffin. I have no patience for what narcos have done to our neighbors.
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Bravo, Mexico!
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>>53291998
This is so truth. Lets drink Ivan
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>>53290311
where was he caught?
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>>53292036
Its actually a shame
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>>53290311
Filthy amerilards, why do they still buying drugs from here?
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>>53292068

Los Mochis, close to Baja, I think, on the northwest coast
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Wasn't it the USA deporting violent Mexicans to Mexico causing all that mess?

Weird.
>>53292068
Your mom's pussy.
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how much longer before he "miraculously" escapes from a top security prison again?
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>>53292137
A week at most
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>>53292104
because you fuckers keep making them and smuggling them over the border. you should stop that

just look at the opium wars. you really going to blame the evil chinese for buying opium from the innocent brits?
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>white American drug dealers get by without beheadings and other savagery
>Mexigore harkens back to old Aztec practices
When are you faggots going to admit that black markets are NOT automatically violent? This is more about Mexican and Latin American culture than it is about the narco trade.
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>>53292120
Good.

I remember a few months ago there was a rumour of him being in the argentinian patagonia near the chilean border.
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>>53291667
So essentially somebody is going to be murdered for giving him up and then he'll be back out soon doing the same shit?

Maybe they should just shoot him?
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>>53292023

mexico should honestly legalize cocaine, meth and related shit along with colombia and flood usa with drugs so much so that you end up coughing the coke that wnet up your ass (all 350 million usamericans)
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>>53291916
they want him sent here so he will actually stay locked up

we went through this back when he was caught in the first place. the US offered to try him in our courts and keep him in our prisons and the Mexicans refused and surprise surprise he makes an impossible escape that could only have happened with the help or permission of the prison itself. In fact after his escape the US offered to help track him down and the mexicans refused
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So who are the big players in the narco trade in Mexico now?

I have trouble keeping up with who is who in the cartels. Is it Jalisco? Knights Templar?
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>>53292206
>Aztec practices
They became brutal in the US, got deported and established the same customs in Mexico.
Maybe some use Aztec imagery, but it's not a cause or anyhting.
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>>53292124
How would us deporting illegal criminals make it our fault you fucking faggot? This isn't a fucking hotel to take care of ither countries criminals.
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>>53292192
>you should stop that
You should stop the demand, or at least produce your own drugs
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>>53292285
How would them legalizing drugs flood the U.S.?

If anything junkies would just move there to die and be a plague
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>>53292312
Just stop.
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>>53292285
>mexico should honestly legalize cocaine, meth and related shit along with colombia and flood usa with drugs
I'm honestly okay with this.

Cheap coke is always a good thing.
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>>53292124
You serve your sentence for crimes committed in the US before being deported iirc.
After that it's either release them onto our soil where they couldn't legally be to begin with or send them back where they came from.
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>>53292331
But obviously you have no problem with profiting from high profile scientists from other countries.

Of course you're at fault.
They were your kids. You messed them up.

Mexico didn't even know what the fuck is happening and got steamed over by your messed up youth you simply ditched.

WHY HAS MEXICO TO CLEAN UP YOUR SHIT?
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>>53292325
>they became brutal in the US
lol, you really think all the beheaders are formally deported illegals?

at least our drug dealers just shoot each other, we dont kidnap a bus of people and make them fight to the death gladiator style
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>>53292359

Its not such a bad idea really, to legalize them and make them affordable to anyone who wants them for about 2-3 years.

It would cull the herd of junkies, and make an example to the survivors.
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>>53292342
>It's your fault that we slaughter each other like animals!

If you just went about it in a civilized manner, your country wouldn't be so shit
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>>53292342
we dont produce our own because you do it cheaper

you are literally enablers. you cant just stop people from doing drugs
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>>53292263
To avoid another miracle escape he should be sent to USA tonight
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>>53292438
Brutal violence was done by real native mexicans. Deporting illegals was not the cause
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>>53292477

Its a little more complicated than that. They have a fairly elaborate history. Things have been better, but they have been worse too.
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>>53292407
>But obviously you have no problem with profiting from high profile scientists from other countries.
They come here legally, Narcos don't
>Clean up your mess
It's their fault they act like animals over money
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>>53292503
Then he'll just call the shots from his cell here.

That's what our gang leaders and high ranking dealers do, anyway.
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>>53292477
>It's your fault that we slaughter each other like animals!
It is, they are applying narco capitalism
>>53292488
>because you do it cheaper
Meth and cocaine are not cheaper
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>>53292407
>Of course you're at fault.
What rhe fuck are you talking about you dumb nigger? They were not out kids, they were Mexicans.

Are you so fuckinf stupid you think countries can deport their own citizens?
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>>53292568
He'd probably get thrown into supermax and I doubt he'd be calling many shots from in there.
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>>53292438
It's not about what I believe, it's a causal chane that's provable with chronological records.

As I said and implied already, Mexico wasn't prepared and lacked the infrastructure to compete with such developments.

They still can't handle it. I'm sure they will soon.
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>>53292600

> you think countries can deport their own citizens?

SOON
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>>53292664
Are you prentending to be retarded?
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>>53292664
Our fucking corrupt government let their puppet to escape, not because lack of shit
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>>53292568
Only in USA he will not corrupt prison staff
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>>53293593

People anywhere can be corrupted. Rich and poor alike.
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>>53290311
why dont the Mexicans just shoot him in the back of head. Mexico is literally becoming worst than the middle east.
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>>53293872
Our government love their pets
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>>53293820
OK, less likely Steve. But in Mexico he has so much power
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>>53292285
>mexico should honestly legalize cocaine, meth
why? drug use isn't a problem here
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>>53292359

im saying mexico and colombia should purpsoedly flood usa with drugs, dumbymerican. opium war v2, so much so that your social fabric shatters and creates the apocalyptical crisis that you deserve for being the main consumer of drug markets and promoter of drug violence since the cold war
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>>53294016
Isn't the government owned by cartels as well?
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>>53294492
>im saying mexico and colombia should purpsoedly flood usa with drugs, dumbymerican. opium war v2, so much so that your social fabric shatters
Nah that wouldn't happen. Everyone who wanta to do drugs already does drugs, it's not like the fucking things are in anyway difficult to get.

All that would happen is it would make a lot of people very happy because their drugs would be cheaper, myself included.
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>>53292477
>If you just went about it in a civilized manner
Oh, you sweet summer child.
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>>53294534
Politicians are them and also works for them. They are the same face of one entity
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>>53294250

But what I am saying is that it doesnt matter how much of a reputation he has. Corruption by definition wins influence anywhere.

He may not have as much reputation here. But his people can contact, bribe or threaten relevant people all the same.

I dont think his ability to corrupt is any better or worse in the US. The only advantage we might have is our organization and redundancy in physical security.

Perhaps what you mean is the *culture* of corruption. So far, ours is pretty limited to upper government; lower government has so many redundancies that it is more difficult to get away with, and so the culture of corruption hasn't emerged there so much.

Once it does, it becomes a serious problem. When people start thinking it is normal and they can get away with it, it inflates quickly. Then you have to do a lot of work to get rid of it and get everyone back on 'the same sheet of music'.
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>>53294732
His reputation its not indispensable to corrupt
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>>53294732
To corrupt someone u dont need a big name
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>>53294534

It depends on how you look at all this.

The sticking point is how you view the cartels.

If you look at them as criminals, then you can say there is a lot of criminal influence in the government.

The problem with this is that while the law considers the cartels to be criminals, the cartels are so big and integrated into the economy and government of the people that in practice, they are more like large feudal families. When so many people are breaking a law to the point where it can't be effectively enforced, then the people have a harder time regarding it as 'criminal' in the same way we struggled for so long to see marijuana as being really criminal. Another example might be the cultural rejection of early 20th century Americans to see alcohol bootleggers as committing a crime. The crime only really was noticeable when they enforced their trade, and resorted to violence.

So if you dismiss the actual trade as criminal, the cartels are more like powerful feudal families and corporations, and there is the same overlap you would find in any politically charged business, like tobacco and coal lobbyists here.

So the economics and politics merge, whether you consider them criminal or not.

This is dangerous for the Mexican people, because the law criminalizing such a powerful influence creates all this corruption, which then de-legitimizes the power of the state to manage peace, safety and dignity of honest citizens.

It is almost like a civil war, but the political goal is not to take responsibility for governance, just to stay in business.

No matter what happens, the powerful and rich will remain in control. Its just a question of where the money comes from. But there is no way to keep all that money, influence and connections out of the Mexican government. Deals have to keep being made...
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... And because of the US drug appetite and our willingness to keep spending money on drugs, it will remain a lucrative trade and continue to be a problem for Mexican stability.

The instability and hindrance on development are also a problem. Because it prevents the one thing that might actually shift power: more money from other enterprises.

If some other economic sector of Mexico could grow, it might produce a power class with enough money to overwhelm the narcos. Perhaps oil might emerge.

Or it may end up being a basic political division in geography that could unite people, but that is harder Mexico City seems to have a hard time maintaining order in their north. It always seems like they are just barely hanging on to it, and dont seem like they afford the same care and concern about the regions of the north like they do towards the regions closer to the capitol. This creates all sorts of problems.
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How many people are going to be brutally murdered in public for revealing his location?
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>they caught him in Mexico again
You'd think he'd never go back there.
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>>53295781
Maybe from 0 to 100 in several months. Besides, he probably was tracked by phonecalls and intelligence mate
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>>53295842

He has too much money there, and protection.

He can't leave the life behind I guess. He would have to leave his money and all the friends who depend on his money behind.

He could take a bunch of money and just walk away.

But then he would be a rich nobody.

Its the greed. He would rather risk spending his life in jail to feel popular in his own world than simply take the money and walk away.

Greed is its own sort of madness. He will never escape his own self image in his head because he doesnt know how. His reality is his identity in his head. He doesn't know how to live any other way because he is now unable to see value in anything besides living up to the reputation of El Chapo.

This is what greed does to people. It makes them so insane that they cant see answers right in front of them.
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>>53295842
He never left cause he thinks its untouchable
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>>53292407
Calm down Hans, everything is fine and nobody is even celebrating this shit, everyone is making meems
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>>53298941
TRIGGERED
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>>53299736

<3
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>>53296461
A 7.62 round can touch anyone.
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Wow, congratulations for proving to the entire world that your system is corrupt to the bones.
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