Is there a difference?

>>53271693
Between Germany and Austria: Many
Between Bavaria and Austria: Only a few minor cultural differences. We should unite desu

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No

Speaking of China and taiwan, Is there any difference ? Chink filled shitholes, i don't know if this applies to german speaking countries.?

>>53271786
bavarians are whiny catholic gypsies so makes sense i guess.

The last real germans live in Austria desu

>>53271792
you just need the Reich push

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>>53271845

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>>53271855
lmaoing @ ur life

>>53271786

Is Bavaria like the German version of Scotland? They are part of a larger country but think they are special?

>>53271693
austria is the shepherd and germany is the sheep

>>53271954
Yes exactly

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>>53271855
>implying

>>53271954
Bavaria is the richest part of Germany.

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>>53271956
this

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>>53271995

tha'd make us Ireland then desu

No. Austrian national identity is a made-up post WW2 thing.

German national identity is based on being German. Austrian national identity is not based on being Austrian but on not being German.

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>>53271693
>anschluss xDDDD
>why is Austria not a part of Germany? :DDDD

>>53272602
Easy, because the allies decided to do it to never allow a united german speaking nation that could be a threat to them.

>>53272230
We have more in common than divides us, I would have no problem to be led by another crazy/inbred Austrian.

Please annex.

Do they speak different languages?

>>53272806
Nope.

Austrian here ;---DDDD

>>53272230
is the relationship like Canada and America then?

Our whole culture is based on being not-American

>>53272889

I'm Scottish and our whole culture is based on not being English, feelsgoodmate

>>53272981
>tfw mum is a scot and dad is canadian

I am bred to forever be like this

>>53271954
Bavaria <=> Texas

People talk funny
People wear traditional clothes
Conservative
Country within a country
Southern

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>>53272602
This thread is now dedicated to the memory of Engelbert Dollfuss

>>53273043
Do you live in sudbury friend

>>53271693
Same shit as with us. Netherlands and Northern Germany aren't that different and Austria and Southern Germany aren't that different but the Netherlands and Austria are different.

>>53273082
Saarlandian here, the south is obviously better and my town used to be part of bavaria.

Grüß Gott :-----{DDDDD

>>53273182
I have a friend who lives in the Emsland.

He talks funny and allways uses wierd little low german/Dutch? words for things and pretends its normal standard german.

He says he can understand you guys pretty well, is that true that even if you don't speak low german or frisian that people tend to understand each other over the border?

>>53272889
>>53272981
I think the Canada-USA analogy fits better. We don't have such a history of war between Germans and Austrians as do the English and Scottish.

Bismarck was very wise to not demand reparations after the Austrian-Prussian war.

>>53273322
I think there are less differences, for hells sake we aren't ven seperated (again) that long.

Canadians are honourable loyalists, big difference.

>>53273298
Frisian is a bit different on it's own but Low German/Platduutsch/Nedderduutsch is sort of an inbetween language. It's not the same as Dutch or German but if you know either you should be able to understand most of what a Low German speaker is saying.

>>53273567
My dad speaks it, but you only notice when he curses after he hurt himself.
Sounds pretty wierd.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCfMfHzMG-s

>>53273819
I remember a year or two ago there was a report on the radio about Dutch people near the border going to Germany to buy fireworks because they ran out here and they interviewed a German salesman who spoke Plattduutsch. He did the interview entirely in Plattduutsch and it sounded like any other Dutch dialect from the area. No need for translation or anything.

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>Austria and Bavaria
>an actual countries, older than any other german states
>rich history

>""""""""Germany"""""""
>artificial nation
>younger than USA
>history of getting rekt in World Wars

>>53273921

Based, 10/10.

he never taught it to me and now i whine constantly on 4chan about it.

>>53273964
>poland

>>53273964
It is ok Pavel, I still love you.

>>53273122
He was a small guy
Even for you

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>>53273964
>Bavaria
>rich History

>>53273503
Yeah well, and Austrians still preferred their own empire with hungarians and other slavs. That's why 1848 became such a shit Prussia sought a real unification.
That Austrian loyalty to the empire of old as opposed to a new German national state can be seen as equivalent to Canadian royal loyalty as opposed to US national awakening.

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>>53274065
>toothpaste

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>>53274187
>poland

>>53274156
True.

Wouldn't mind being ruled by an emperor again, if he has a snazzy moustache.

>>53274187
>being this butthurt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBuzi01DR8w&t=7s

as far as I know,Austrians are more like rural germans.
They talk funny according to the northeners.
Differences like:
Germany:
Besteck
Austria:
Esszeug(eating thing)
Germany:
Weihnachtsbaum
Austria:
Christbaum

Bavaria is more akin to Austria.
I like the austrian words better,maybe because my family used them for so long every day.But I don't know why they use german words like Speis.
But feel free to correct me.

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>>53274187

LEAVE THE NETHERLANDERS ALONE!!!

>>53273322
> We don't have such a history of war between Germans and Austrians as do the English and Scottish.

You should educate yourself.

>>53274289

Same reaso nwe use Goulasch (and eat it), long time cohabitation and cultural exchange. More so for the Austrians and your roving steppe hordes.

You allways were their most cherished vassals.

>>53274378
Well, not him, but originally they were truly differnet people even 1500 or so with thei celtic language and traditions.

When was the last time people living in todays austria and germany where totally different culturally and language wise, or in general not aknowledging kinship?

>>53274378
teach me

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>>53274230
>>53274230
>>53274267
I was merley pretendin

>>53274384
My great grandma always told stories about the expelled germans from her village.The city where I live still has a german name sign under the hungarian one.

>>53274187
I will not stand for our Swampgermanic bros to get diffamed like that.
P-Please Netherlands, like us back senpai

>>53274441
> culturally difference
A term that goes with everything and nothing. We are also not very different from any other western countries if you are geralistic, but very different if you insist on details.

>>53274652
Language being the most important, good choice to go for my weakest argument tough.

>>53274378
nigger

>>53272082

Go to google and figure out why.

its not like hurr durr bavarians are the true germans they are rich and shit.

>>53274734
Nah, if language would be that important, than we would have less countries on earth.

>>53274854
Interestingly, Brazil has a part of Austria on its flag. The yellow you are using is called Schönbrunner Gelb.

>>53274734
>>53275075
Language is important though, and the frontier between dialect and language is very thin. Look at the Swiss, according to them, they don't speak a dialect of German, but a separate language.

>>53275160
>>53275160
>>53274854

you'll love this:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treze_T%C3%ADlias

>>53274914
t. butthut

>Germany
>Switzerland
>Liechtenstein
>Austria
>Luxembourg

Why do all German speaking countries have such a low unemployment rate?

>>53275846
wörk

>>53275881
>work
Translation: hiding people's dirty money for small fees/taxes

Also, these countries all seem to rent more than own houses. Why don't you guys into being mortgage slaves like us Anglos?

>>53275846

Duales Ausbildungssystem

>>53275963
>Also, these countries all seem to rent more than own houses

There are countrys in europe that rent WAY more ( spain for example) actually its quiet 50/50

Germany should change its name to Merkelstan.

Austria should annex Bavaria and change its name to Germany

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Germans have to buy video games from Austria as they censor the shit out of their games.

>>53276130
OK, I just put that through a translator.

We don't have the exact same dual training system, but we do have community colleges and universities. The problem is that the former is looked down upon by human resources. From what I've read, every German speaking country grants you employment for life(?) regardless of whether you went to vocational school or an academic university.

>>53276267
No, they don't.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_home_ownership_rate

>>53276441
>France at 64%
I honestly thought it would be way below that.

>>53276399

Pretty much, yeah. Skilled workers like builders or locksmiths aren't just "working class scum"

I often hear anglos complain that they have trouble getting hired because they get told things like "you have no experience"

Duales Ausbildungssystem prevents this and it's completely for free.

The system does have it's flaws but it's preventing unemployment pretty effectively

>>53276441

http://i100.independent.co.uk/article/a-map-of-the-european-union-based-on-where-people-live-in-flats-or-houses--Zkxo77Z06Kl

Well you are right I was thinking just because more Spains living in flats they would also rent more but apparently there are a lot of owners. Still very interesting if you look at how much Spaniards live in Houses.

>>53276376

games that include nazi symbols like Wolfenstein also get censored in austria

>>53275963
Home ownership isn't exactly a good indicator of wealth or else the Greeks or Romanians should be considered the richest in Europe. Houses in Germanic lands are usually made to last through the ages. American houses are cheap wooden boxes that fly away at the first tornado.

Other things can influence the ownership rate, too. E.g. there is no such thing as a functioning rent market in Spain. In Barcelona some have a rent that's been frozen from the 1960s in an apparent attempt to curb the ebil capitalists means of exploitation. It's clear as the blue sky that under such circumstances with such restrictive laws investors simply won't offer flats for rent. Spaniards have pretty much no other choice than to own the flat they live in.

>>53276693
>I often hear anglos complain that they have trouble getting hired because they get told things like "you have no experience"
This so much. It's disgusting. And even if you do get "experience", it has absolutely NOTHING to do with the occupation you will be working in. My current internship has been composed of my supervisor asking me to make his binders for him or to enter data into a spreadsheet. A computer science student should be working with developing programs or securing the network from unauthorized personnel, not doing bitch work.

This makes me want to get the fuck out of here so badly. The thing that's worsening this whole situation is the skyrocketing inflation of tuition fees here.

>>53276693
It's the same here, in a lots of fields.

>Looking for people 22-25 years old, with AT LEAST 5 years of experience

Yeah, no, fuck off. Just make up your mind already.

>>53276879
I agree, though Australia is the wealthiest country on Earth due to its housing situation. Your German speaking countries don't have a strong push to have people buy homes that they can't afford, which probably spares them so much stress and money. I always ask people around me if it's even worth it to buy one when only a third of people own their houses outright and the others slave away with their mortgages.

>>53277092
In Germany transaction costs are comparatively high when it comes to buying houses. Were they as low as in some other countries home ownership would be a coupe of percentage points higher.

I don't know anything about the housing situation of Oz. How's the quality of their houses on average? Apparently in countries with low population density land is cheap and leads to bigger houses, but how well are they built?

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>>53276917

Funny, Canda is a popular destination for austrians to migrate because it is said that companys there crave for experienced personnell.

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>>53277341
http://www.oecdbetterlifeindex.org/topics/housing/
It seems to be top 5 in all indicators.

>>53277461
Yeah, but that's a book value. By that measure Germans are poorer than Greeks. That's why I asked for more concrete indicators of wealth in housing, i.e. the quality of the houses.

>>53277601
I found something better.

http://www.euro.centre.org/data/1270820381_27296.pdf

Page 3.

>>53273964
you forgot:
> Bavaria
> history of getting REKT by Prussia

Austria is closer to Bavaria but has more central european and slavic influences

>>53277805
t. slav
>>53277797
t. slav

>>53278108

Bolan u geenious

>>53277730
Yeh but what about Oz?
Another thing about general wealth. In countries with extensive social security systems wealth is hidden in things like entitlements for pensions paid by the state. That's where a significant portion of income in Germany goes to but doesn't surface in any wealth comparison. In contrast to that countries which leave organizing financing one's retirement up to the people have all these things go into statistics. The stocks or bonds or real estate people buy all count as wealth of these people. But Germany's state social security entitlements don't. Same thing with the general state organized unemployment insurance and health care.
(this also skews statistics about wealth distribution within countries where Germany appears worse than it is in reality)

>>53278192
t. Habsburg 1683

>>53278251
Not going to lie, I don't know much about how Australia measures its wealth. Germany doesn't strike me as an unwealthy place at all, since the country has a net surplus for its budget from what I've read, so the public must be doing well, as it has one of the highest employment rates and youth employment rates on the planet.

>>53279229
Yeah we're doing pretty well right now. We could be a bit better in infrastructure investment. We were a little lazy in that department lately. And economic reforms are always needed. Even if one is doing well. Progress is always marching on. The biggest threat to our economy right now is probably a Chinese recession or serious slowdown and what that would mean for the world economy.

>>53279444
>biggest threat
>not mudslimes xDDD

>>53276693
>The system does have it's flaws
extremely high drop out rate
+what >>53276917 said applies to apprenticeships too
+apprenticehips are not regulated with demand

so you have hundreds of thousands of girls who want to become a hairstylist or some low level secretary office monkey and the same number of boys who want to be a a car mechanic because cars are so cool.

and then of course they end up either umemployed or exploited and cant just learn something else because they basically dropped out fo school at 15 and have no clue about anything.

>>53280309
For those that take employable apprenticeships, do they teach apprentices skills that they will use at work in their future?

>>53271870
kek