Because the US has very high migration requirements for someone to move there. You either need to win the US green-card lotery or have atleast finished a master degree and have a sufficient amount of disposable income.
Yet illegal Mexicans are still welcomed with open arms and passports by Obama ;^).
We don't have any sweatshops and factories to cram full of Czech and Irish peasants anymore like in 1890
Now you need to meet all sorts of ridiculous requirements to migrate here from the first world
few reasons off top
>standard of living is the same or not a major upgrade worth leaving everything behind
>they prefer to stay rooted where their ancestors were
>you've let in a lot more non europeans and people they euros cant resonate with
>the rush at the time was to build up these countries, now they're built
>marxist new world cucks made immigration laws for white europeans a thing
I've always felt that it's better being poor in Europe because of all that gubmint money and training programmes you can get on, but far better to be educated and rich in America (because of all the cheap housing and low taxes and cost of living).
If I were rich, I'd probably go and live somewhere in America.
I doubt durkas here will affect European immigration in any shape or form, but the prolonged euro crisis will probably keep unemployment as it is or make it grow and that'll have more effect.
They still do, but not in large numbers. The big difference is that the push factors no longer exist.
In 1900, there were significant "push" factors.
>Pogroms in Russia
>Repressive legislation against religious and ethnic minoirites
The standard of living in Europe rose greatly with the rise of service economies, and by the 1960s it was no longer worth it for Europeans to leave to America. After the fall of the USSR, millions of Eastern Europeans came to the Americas (and significant numbers of people from the Balkans, Russia, and Ukraine still come over), but this also slowed after post-Soviet shitholes became less awful.
The best way to limit immigration from Latin America is to improve the Latin American standard of living.
Like I said, Europe's going to shit soon. Besides, Europeans will not be able to resist the draw of God Emperor Trump when he takes the throne.
Question for Euros: How often do you see American immigrants in your country?
This is a /pol/ meme
The United States loves getting middle-class and upper-class immigrants from anywhere. We don't prefer poor, non-white immigrants, but they're the people who are most eager to come.
Not often, since American immigrants tend to work in finance and I don't have a job in that sector.
In my old job, we used to have American interns for a couple of months during the summer though.
>Yet illegal Mexicans are still welcomed with open arms and passports by Obama ;^).
Obama has deported more undocumented immigrants than any other president, and Mexican immigration has actually dropped off significantly
If anybody wants illegal Mexicans, it's the Republican establishment. Mexican laborers help large corporations greatly, and they're unlikely to become citizens and vote for the Democrats.
You can't just show up to America/Canada and say "I'll live here now, thanks." The immigration bolis will say "where's your uni degree? Letter of employment? Bank balance of $20k? No criminal history? Do we have a shortage of people with your skills? Fingerprints? Interview? Ever done drugs? Mental illness? Health insurance?" etc.
Plus, Yuros can just move to other Yuro cunts, if they're in the EU.
I would if my wife wasn't so sick. I need some infos on good health insurancies and how much they cost. How much is the price for eating correctly and not becoming a fat turd.
As for security, the risk of being shot by muhammad in France is equal to being shot by tyrone in US, so the health status is the only thing preventing us to flee this socialist hell.
But that's not the reality. Hell, Canada is one of the easiest places to move to as an Australian, but there are still barriers. Like if I was on holiday there and someone offered me a job doing data entry or something, I probably wouldn't be able to take it and get residency.
The Ellis Island officials generally didn't change people's names. There are incredibly few examples of this happening.
Often, they would record names incorrectly (U' Maoileoin became O'Malley) but immigration officers would be fired for recording a name deliberately incorrectly.
What happened was that immigrants, themselves, would change their names after emigrating. Italian immigrants largely left their names intact, but Irish, Jewish, and German immigrants would Anglicize theirs.
Donald Trump's name would be Donald Drumpf if his great-grandparents didn't decide to change their name.
>Obama has deported more undocumented immigrants than any other president
this is a lie, all he did was redefine what an illegal immigrant is, making it so people caught just crossing the border were counted as illegals. This way his deportation numbers have been vastly inflated
Yeah, at least in France you won't go into thousands of dollars in debt or bankrupt because of your wife. Our healthcare system is the biggest fucking embarrassment, at least most of Europe has a somewhat functional healthcare system
I'm engaged to an amerilard.
I'd move to America tomorrow if I could but
1) she's from California and cost of living is too high
2) visas are expensive, confusing and costly
3) I'm a low skilled retail pleb so wouldn't be able to afford living there
4) no NHS
5) I'm not Mexican so they won't just hand me a visa like candy
As already explained, yes we do. By the millions
The queue to get into America though is in the tens of millions. In 2011 in uni I read a report that said there were still stacks of applications from the early 90's from ex-Soviet countries where just about every other Bulgarian and Pole applied to emigrate
There are also an ungodly amount of Indians and Chinese applying.
There are tons of European citizens living near me, including recent ones, They let in as many millions as they can but they can't let in 9 million a year.
They are real whites as opposed to """whites""" from Arabia or Portugal.
Picture related is a white Latin American wtf are you guys retarded?
Asians have the exact same process you have. We get more Asian immigrants because educated Asians are more interested in coming here.
Mexicans also have the same process, but they can walk.
Smuggled in across the border by criminals, many die of dehydration walking hundreds of miles in 40c temps on foot, then they get paid 1 dollar an hour to work 120 hour workweeks with no breaks on tomato fields
They do well in Ireland anyways, we had a massive population drain recently. Most went to Australia, UK and some to America.
Ireland has a HUGE number of Ameriboos, I know five people who went to the US and want to stay there, they think it is the best country in the world. I went to school with a girl who lived there for a few months when she was seven and had an american accent for the rest of her life.
People still do, but the largest numbers are from Eastern Europe. People from Western migrate in smaller numbers now. Mainly highly-skilled professionals or for personal reasons (family etc). It doesn't make economic sense for a blue-collar worker from Western Europe to move to the US when the wages are lower and they'll be stuck paying for healthcare and other social programs they enjoy at home.
You're not broke if you got a good cover but i really don't know how much it costs.
As for health policies, this is the #1 reason we're in debts, it's good but not perfect. You should get free healthcare only if you're sick. Most of people cough and they rush to the doctor's office where it ends up being paid by our taxes
>New York will never be Anglo WASP again
>English will never emigrate to NYC by the boatload
>we'll never have British pubs or double decker buses in Manhattan, and St George's Day parades
It's not like they give preference to illegals. It's because if you do it by the book it makes it easier to keep track of.
Juan from Juarez could live in the US for 10 years with the government unaware of his existence. Anyone who comes in on a work visa will have to give them residence and they'll know exactly how long they've been and when the visa expires.
Don't you have to get married within 30 days? I still have to save up for a wedding so that means a few more years of living in different countries. I can't take it anymore.
Even so, I'm a retail pleb so I guess my dream is pointless
>American women are ridiculously hard to sleep with
Anyone whose not an autist could pick up an attractive women in 24 hours. If you have an accent their panties are already pre-soaked.
I got invited to a USCIS citizenship ceremony last year when a friend in DC was becoming a US citizen.
They do a thing where they read out everyone's names and state their country of origin.
I shit you not, there were probably a dozen Brits in the list of nationalities. The country with the most was Ethiopia though.
There were a handful of other European nations represented. A few Germans, Dutch and eastern euros.
I don't understand why there were so many brits. They didn't seem to be related.
Bud, if you move to the south you can get an entry level manufacturing job without prior experience. It's not the most amazing work in the world, but I make $16 an hour with a high school education. Don't go to Commiefornia though. You will be unemployed.
The tax rate for being rich is high. However there are enough loopholes in our tax law that the rich get out of paying most of it and the middle class are the only ones really screwed. If you have enough money to hire a tax attorney your golden. Paying taxes is for middle class plebs.
Well yea you obviously have to fill out everything they tell you to and provide documentation. The only real requirements is that the person is lawfully in the US and it isn't a sham marriage.
You could get married in England and then come to the US and apply. Or you could apply from England, but that sounds like a huge clusterfuck. You don't have to necessarily marry in the US to get the green card but it would be the quickest way to do it.
Thinking about living in Argentina by the end of the year
I was invited to Venezuela once, but I declined the offer on the grounds that it might be a drug-smuggling kind of thing. South America sounds comfy, though, I've heard some parts of it are friendly to Polish people because of the Pope and the fact that we're predominantly Catholic.
eh not really
Brits have a pretty easy time getting in
the REAL advantage minorities have is they cheat the system because someone of them go into government work and just push their relatives though or take bribes to push others in.
meanwhile Europeans usually have to follow the rules.
that being said brits are super common and the largest immigrant ground by far.
I'd like to move to Europe or USA but it's difficult for Russians, the problem is that Russia is a shithole that doesn't allow to earn money enough to move to Europe or USA and on the other hand we don't have wars or mass repressions so we can't emigrate as refugees. Feels bad man, sometimes I think about moving to US as illegal but it is impossible to legalize yourself.
>REAL advantage minorities have is they cheat the system because someone of them go into government work and just push their relatives though or take bribes to push others in.
Russians don't help each other, our nation is too individualistic, I think it's shit that interrupt mass immigration from Russia.
Foreign representations of Polish people abroad have warped my sense of belonging to such a point, that I'd rather live with someone completely culturally unrelated than my homeboys. That's the way it is, Poles shit on other Poles across the globe, unless you're an alcoholic, degenerate faggot who likes "muh piłka nożna".
I'd like Russians to scum the system too but most of Russian "emigration agencies" are usual frauds who just take your money away and do nothing. Some Ukrainians, for example, go trough the diaspora connections unlike Russians but they mostly emigrate to Poland, not new world.
Many Russians think the same, but I love my people and would help other Russians to emigrate if living abroad. People in modern world conquer the West after West had conquered them in the past so Russians should do the same
I worked in Ocean City Maryland one summer and there were a ton of Russians that worked there. I heard a ton of stories about Russians who paid 1000 + dollars to agencies to help them get visa and job and they end up working at McDonalds. It was weird to see McDonalds filled with 8/10 Russian qts. The smart ones quit and fucked rich people.
Even the one in your pic is perfectly safe. Pic is the one I have in my beach house.
is it true that in south american homes the plumbing system recycles all the water 3 times before dumping it as sewage? if you take a shit before a shower you're likely to smell after your shower
I guess they had worked by Work and Travel program. It's difficult to get a green card for Russians, we are not presented enough to have an influence in USA like, for example, Armenians have. One of my university groupmates emigrated to USA through the diaspora and lives now in LA. Europe would be fine to emigrate to too but there are really no countries with Russian influence enough, except for Serbia and Montenegro maybe, but they are not really better than Russia.
This one looks much safer!
About that drug-smuggling thing: father of my ex-gf invited us to Venezuela and promised to pay for the trip and our stay in a hotel. The thing is that he escaped Poland due to his debts, so I'm pretty sure he wanted us to smuggle drugs.
>if you got a good cover
This is usually pretty difficult. The companies know it's hard to switch plans so they love fucking you.
Right-wingers have a point about the lack of competition.
They've made it too hard. We have to oblige to the same system of getting an academic degree and applying for a field relevant job as third worlders do, except we can't just buy our degrees like they do. Also shitskins have shitskin communities to support them and give them Green Card relevant jobs in the US, whites are just white and don't band together. Finding a wife is not only impossible for us spergs, but also highly undesirable especially when your immigration status depends on her, and the only other option is illegal immigration which is truly third world tier.
Legal immigration is a very difficult, long process. We originally brought so many people over because we needed people to start farms to get food for the population, etc so the process was easy.
Those are usually cheaper and much more economical. But gas fueled heaters are very common too. I myself have one, which is automatic and heat the house's water on the spot, rather than storing the heated water like some boiler systems do.
The frenchman's pic is a meme, most people have proper installations.
>They throw used toilet paper in wastebins because their plumbing is too shity to handle toilet paper
No they won't
The scandi immigrants here only get bullied because they complain about everything being racist/sexist/nazi, at least the 3 I've known. More YES than you can possibly imagine. A gothenburger, a Stockholmer and an old man from "Warmland" or whatever.
White people aren't really considered immigrants though, just people who relocated for work. You'll get an "Oh cool you lived in X, how was it? Never been there".
>I'd just get treated like shit
at most you'll get ikea jokes
just don't come here with a morale high horse and brag about how progressive sweden is
one time a swedish girl was bragging loudly in a subway about how sweden was so progressive that they supported the "good guys" in the vietnam war by giving the veit cong money and medical supplies, even sending swedish medic to help the viet cong.
a black guy walked up to her and spit in her face and his whole crew and other passer-bys who heard the conversation all laughed at her.
don't be that type of swede
Because the Americas have very few benefits over Europe. We have zero social benefits compared to Europe, very little extra rights (just guns and a little extra speech), lots of jobs but don't pay or give benefits like euro countries, infrastructure is poor in most cities so car is required, less freedom of movement, more job competition more. The few benefits America offers just arent worth the trouble of immigranting, leaving your culture and home.
It really isn'†, your law actively discriminates against Europeans when it comes to immigration laws for the sake of "diversity".
The people might love it, but your government seems to hate it.
if your in a green country (eg not from latin america or eastern europe)
you actually have a higher chance of immigration
Europeans immigrated to the US when Europe was shit and US was great.
Why do you expect them to immigrate when the US is shit and Europe is great(kinda)?
>Why do you expect them to immigrate when the US is shit and Europe is great(kinda)?
there was a small group of college educated french immigrants that started coming here.they kept complaining about how french has so much more 'culture' but they had to leave because socialism made everyone lazy.
>no suprise that there are less sjw here nowadays they all went to murica wew
No kidding, with the other persons story that makes 4 encounters with turbo-SJWs and sjws
The old guy from Warmland I knew wasn't that bad, mostly complained about religion and income inequality (I agree with those) but sometimes complained that more people should have voted Obama if America weren't "so fascist racist".
The two younger ones were full on tumblr-tier. The one in my class who worked at retail ranted that murder by minorities was "justified historical revenge". Ugh. Also called us "immigrants" as an insult and constantly brought up native Americans and colonization.
What cringe? Also the places that scandis settled are fucking empty. You'd buy a house and not have neighbors for 10km across flat frozen fields
Actually the eastern/south Euros were lured here by making them think it was great, but they were really needed for shitty unskilled labor jobs in factories. But they probably would have worked similar jobs back home in Hungary or whatnot in 1910 anyways
>Like I said, Europe's going to shit soon.
I know there's a lot of bad news going around recently, but do you really believe that a continent that has survived much more than what's going on now will really collapse?
The reason Europeans don't move to America, and vice versa, is because there is little incentive too. Living standards are incredibly high in Europe and the U.S. Trying to move is so much of a pain, even for Eastern Europeans that the negatives usually outweigh the benefits. For Europeans now if you don't like how things are going right now just move to the next European country and it'll take none of your time Visa wise and the most it'll cost you is a plane ticket. There no loopholes to jump through. Just get up and move.
They do to America at least, its just become extremely competitive now. Every 1 guy that gets in from Europe, at least 10 are denied because they didn't fulfill the requirements of being a worthwhile human being.
>tfw netherlands and canada are best bros for life and we can travel to canada and get visa and shit for nothing
canada is based
Bullshit, Canada still givin PR to anyone with local 2-year college diploma (Manitoba ok with 9 month certificate) and some skilled workers on point system.
US is lotterng H1B working visas, fuck. 100 employers fill the aplications and something like 8 will get their emploies. So real chances is Green Card and mailbriding.
Future white canuck, 4 times green card sucker.
too difficult and expensive, otherwise i would leave immediately
They supported Mugabe in his efforts as well lol, google Bastad riots, I believe the last one where white sweeds took part.
Of course they are proud, consiquenses is nothing, untill you shure about moral side of your actions.