Who had more world influence/power at their height?

>>53183340

I would say Britain since we had no serious rival during our reign, USA had to contend with the USSR and now China for global power and influence

>>53183340
Michael (iirc he owned a bunch of senators while his dad only owned a few local judges)

desu, under Louis XIV...

US has more influence what with globalisation and power projection, but the British were way more knowledgeable and impressive.

Everything considered, you can't even compare. The US is just a British creation gone rogue.

>>53183401
suck my cock

>>53183469
>the muslim britboo dumbass is here

Goodbye, thread.

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>>53183340
>not adding Rome to that question
Rome > all
>tfw you will never be a roman patrician citizen with qt slaves from gaul

>>53183518
Everyone with a brain is a "britboo".

>>53183486
Awe, feeling forgotten?

>>53183573
There were parts of the world where people barely heard of Rome and never cared. Like China.

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>>53183616
why not ameriboo?

>>53183754
American people are the nicest, they have amazing scientific achievements made every single day, greatest unis, greatest companies, etc.

But they literally can't into politics, that's why I'm a britboo and not an ameriboo

Either Mongolia or Macedonia

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>>53183340
The real question is, why are these 2 countries so far ahead of the rest of the world in terms of economic, cultural, technological and political output/dominance?
Why not the rest of the anglosphere?

Wasn't the US something like 60% of the world's GDP after the war? Probably the US for those couple of decades

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>>53183828
>But they literally can't into politics, that's why I'm a britboo and not an ameriboo

>>53183616
With a vagina*

>>53183935
Hey, nice EEZ, pally

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>>53184054
hello again

>>53184001
Like Napoleon's wife.

>>53183951
That wasn't hard with europe beeing bombed into chunks and Asia stucked in a huge ass famine

>the solar system has yet to be colonized

america hasn't reached its height yet, so how can we say

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>>53184177
can't wait desu.
>tfw removing plutonian islamist scum

>>53184128
M'kay, muslim

>>53184177
You're right, with the state of NASA these days China will blow the both of us out of the water

>>53183340

the power gap was probably larger with the empire compared to the world than US and the world

>>53184177
>>53184219
NASA is ded

Commercial aeronautics is literally the future.

>>53184255
Don't be mad. I like France, I have a poster of Napoleon in my room.

But you gotta admit the British are on another plane of reality

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>>53184286
>NASA is ded

>>53184402

>1969
first man on the moon
>2015
first semi-decent pictures of Pluto

JUST

I think england objectively had more power when scaled but I still want to give it to us just because we became this powerful despite the nignogs and spics.

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>>53184478
>distance to the moon
>238,900 mi
>distance to pluto
>4.67 billion miles
>almost 20,000 times further

>>53184519
When you became powerful, these groups were not a problem though.

>>53184574

Difference between a manned mission and a flyby.

I hope you're not denying the astronomical decline of NASA's productivity after the Cold War.

>>53184335
No, they don't deserve this honor
+ remember your "haha muh 13 November, so happy" post, you cunt ?

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>>53184714

I was b8ing hard

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>>53183573
God damn it america, stop reminding me

>>53184755
AND IT WORKS

>>53184585
I consider our height to be the end of the USSR.

remove kebab

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>>53184951
>you will never be a roman general gaining glory and plunder for your republic before becoming consul and living up to your ancestor's glorious past

It's indisputable that the United States is the most power military and economic force in human history.

But I'd say on balance of achievements it's about equal. We bought civilization to the world, US have only bought it bombs, CIA coups and threats of economic sanctions to allies.

We did some bad shit occasionally, but that's all people outside of Britain and France chose to remember. When the time of America passes, how will history remember them I wonder?

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>>53185099

>>53184574
We also went to space on computer programming that could fit on a floppy disk

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>>53185109
>We did some bad shit occasionally, but that's all people outside of Britain and France chose to remember. When the time of America passes, how will history remember them I wonder?

>>53183573
Fuck off, Gaule rules the world

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>>53185243
vercingetorix please

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>>53183401
>I would say Britain since we had no serious rival during our reign

>>53185221
I'm 100% sure that the number for US has dropped by now.

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>>53183469
>The US is just a British creation gone rogue.
And the English are some viking invention gone rouge? Most of Europe are just a Latin invention gone rouge?
Literally every country has some origin but this isn't a criticism or demeaning fact, yet you use it as such like an idiot.
The English started the colony but they didn't invent the US, the people invented it and controlled it.

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>>53184651
in terms public excitement about pure scientific research and exploration, the US space program's decline has been pretty bad.

in terms of productivity, there hasn't been a significant decline. A lot of the work has shifted from NASA to the USAF, and is therefore out of the public eye. The USA's space budget (about $40 billion) exceeded the rest of the worlds space budget combined in 2014. Congress will increase NASA's budget by $19.3 billion in the 2016 fiscal year.

>>53185557
Every country has an origin, but saying England has a Viking origin or most of Europe has a Roman origin is way, way less accurate than saying the US has a British origin.

>>53185629
No.

>>53185606
I heard about the increase, was happy to hear. We'll see, ESA has started pulling its weight too, maybe exciting times are ahead.

>>53183401
>no serious rivals
Spain and France were pretty big rivals

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>>53185692
>was happy to hear
me too. I'd rather spend money on a manned mission to mars, than on better ways to fuck with other countries' satellites.

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>>53183401
>>53185701
The biggest rival during Britain's Imperial Century was the Russian Empire

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Game

It's not that well-known today, mostly because Britain and Russia came to an agreement in 1907. But for a long time the Russian Empire threatened British India and was trying to destabilise it. That was the Great Game, the first Western wars in Afghanistan, and all of that.

Of course the Russian Empire was quite backwards and fell apart when it tried to fight its first big war, but at the time the Russians were our biggest rival.

>>53186346
>that pic
noice

In any case, I'd say Afghanistan was won by the British in the sense that you eventually controlled their foreign policy and kept Russia from creeping up (which they were doing from the North).

Of course you also have the Crimean War were you stomped Russia and prevented them from capturing pretty much every Ottoman territory.

Are there any other conflicts? Perhaps ones that the Russians won?

>>53185606
>muh space plane
>doesn't know what it does
>paid by his tax money
>probably used to spy on him

>>53185109
>We did some bad shit occasionally

Literally the entire clusterfuck that is the middle east and the rise of Islamic Extremism can be tied back to Britain just drawing arbitrary borders throughout the place and mixing a bunch of ethnic groups with varying degrees of power in with one another.

Africa too, although the French, Belgians, and other European nations share blame for how that's turned out.

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>>53186481
Well in general military terms the Russian Empire was successful at expanding. It was huge (see pic), they won lots of Central Asia and also Ottoman territory. I don't think they had much success against Britain, although to be fair a lot of it was proxy wars in Central Asia. But they did make British governments very nervous about the threat to India.

>>53186826
You blame the arbitrary middle-eastern borders solely on Britain, but the Sykes-Picot Agreement was French and British. Please tone down your anti-British bias.

If Britain had stayed out of much of the napoleonic wars like the US did for WWI and WWII while the rest of Europe burned would they have been as absolutely dominant as America was post-WWII?

>>53186835

It was huge 2bh but the you mostly cared about protecting India from Russia which you did, and curbing their imperialism where it was important (i.e. keeping the Ottomans alive).

I'd say it was a decisive British victory.

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>>53187664
If we stayed out of the Napoleonic Wars, the French would have won them. The superiority of the Royal Navy is why Napoleon felt it necessary to set up the Continental System, and invade Russia when they violated it, sending French power into permanent decline and allowing Britain to establish its second, much bigger, Empire.

>>53187768
Well the nice thing about the Great Game is that it was resolved diplomatically, with the Anglo-Russian Entente
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Russian_Entente

Although who knows if that would have lasted if the First World War didn't happen. But yes, the most important thing was to protect India and Britain managed to do that.

>>53188087
Sorry, protecting India AND Constantinople/Istanbul. If Russia ever takes that city, they'll be a lot more powerful

UK could bully China more. Both were anxious about Russia. US could bully Europe more. At their heights, that is.

>>53188244
I wish UK would still bully China desu

>>53187935

>frogs and degos cross the T.
>roastbeefs break their line.

based Nelson

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>>53188323
It's more beneficial for us to have good relations with China. If the UK is going to build up power again, it needs to win more trade in the Asia-Pacific. Our military is too small to do that coercively, and to make our military larger again we need a stronger economy.

That is one thing our government understands. It's been too long since we had a government which understood basic long-term strategy.

>>53188593
What did you expect ?
We're very bad sailors

>>53183469
>Arabier
Die a painful death

>>53188673
See, Australia has been taking a similar approach since the '70's, trying to work closely with China as it begins to exceed countries like the U.S. and Russia in terms of raw power, the problem is that by creating a "deeper partnership" with China you start to rely on it, and that's the biggest fault any country can make. If war breaks out between the U.K. and China, or relations breakdown, it'll affect the U.K. more than it would China.

>>53183684
Their arrogance won't allow it.

>>53189500

topkek brah

>>53183340
The Brits, really. While America has pushed its influence on countries, most countries remain sovereign states. Britain controlled a huge portion of the world.

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>>53189459
I expect french and spanish forces take advantage of maximum fields-of-fire, bombard british ships with their broadside main-guns (the cannon along the sides of their ships); while only taking fire from the front few british ships' forward-mounted guns.

>>53183935
>Why not the rest of the anglosphere?
Because you claimed non-Brit Anglo's achievements as British subjects.

UK

t. opium wars

>>53190372
Europe is occupied by American troops. NATO is America and NATO controls Europe. Europe is not sovereign.

>>53189602
China makes a small % of our total trade with other countries. If we triple our trade with China, it will still be small. But there are two big advantages we have compared to Australia

1) We are in the EU. China needs access to the EU, it's China's biggest trading partner and more benign from China's POV than the USA. As one of the largest EU economies, we are both more valuable to China (and the US for that matter) and as part of a huge Single Market, we can get better trade deals with China than countries which aren't part of such a trading bloc

2) China can get natural resources from many countries. But the UK's financial and legal services are more exclusive (they want Renminbi to be a global currency, the route lies through London), and the UK's world respected infrastructure regulation combined with the openness of the economy makes it an ideal place for China to invest and showcase its big ticket infrastructure exports.

My second point is important because China has committed to HUGE projects in the UK, especially the nuclear power stations, which they are very eager to export to other countries.

This means China has a vested interest in keeping good relations with the UK. It's not like buying up residential property. China has committed billions and billions into these projects, it will only pay off if the relationship is stable.

>>53190806
>Europe is occupied by American troops
And America is occupied by European settlers, what's your point. fat ass?

No American soldiers here, Brits still in the North though. Check 1 to the Britbongs, fatty.

>>53190806
>Allied troops in your country = not sovereign.

K

>>53190806
You know PAY our government to rent our surplus bases, right?

>>53184286

astronautics

>>53190913
there's no need to get personal, bully

>>53183340
Britain because they could even bully China.

>>53192130
When we bullied china it was a pathetic excuse of a state and was unstable with emperors getting killed and shit
They couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery

>>53192130
I think Britain is the only country which has won wars against China, India and Russia

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>>53183340

>>53192312
Yeah, they were in a bad state, but they were the most civilized country for most of human history, the only ones who equalled Rome during its heyday. And their sense of entitlement and pride showed that and is beginning to show again. It's not by accident that today they call it the century of humiliations as during all the other centuries they were the ones who could afford to do the humiliating.

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>>53192376

>>53183401
>Spain
>France
>Germany
>Russia

>>53193602
Tbf OP said "at their height", which for Britain was the 19th century.

Spain was a rival much earlier, before the UK was formed in 1707
France was defeated when the Empire was still tiny

Germany and Russia are fair game. I posted about Russia earlier. Germany became an issue when Britain had already started to get weak and began its decline, but I guess they still count.

>>53193816
>France was defeated when the Empire was still tiny
That's wrong. France remained a Great Power pretty much up until the Second World War and the decolonization.

>>53192327
China- See Boxer Rebellion and Japan's imperialistic projects in East Asia prior and during WWII.
India- Apparently the Northern Kingdoms were repeatedly raided by mongol hordes during their heyday. The Indian subcontinent was never unified until the British colonization period.
Russia- Was constantly raided by steppe hordes, Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.

>>53194263
I meant that Britain defeated all THREE at war, I know they've been defeated by others. But what other country won against all of them?

>>53194260
The Brit poster that the American anon replied to said "serious rival", to which the American suggested France. At Britain's height, France was not a serious rival

They were a great power but never again, after the Napoleonic Wars, was France a serious rival to Britain

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>>53184177
soon

>>53194890
I guess the Mongol Horde at it's height would be the best contestant in that regard, as it successfully subjugated China and Rus' (political entity precursor to the Russian Empire), they were repelled at India though.

Imperial Japan was somewhat close to achieve that though, after Port Arthur their chain of victories against Russia was only broken after the Battle of Khalkhin Gol; China was under their control and they were just short of reaching India, having stopped at Burma.

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>>53183935

>Human accomplishment
>Germany

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>>53183401

Germany....france....USA.


No contended rivals????

>>53195687
They were shit at boats though, can't kill what you can't get to stupid mogreloids

>>53195687
Oh good point about the Mongols. You could give it to them I suppose, if you count the Mughals, since Babur was a descendant of Genghis Khan.

Then again, lots of people were descendants of Genghis Khan...

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>>53183469
My educated Netherfriend.

>>53190913
Ohhh fuck...so European immigrants conquered the US? Still plenty of US bases in the UK. England especially.

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>>53183954
lol

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>>53190981
DEAL WITH IT

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>>53196131

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>>53196080
>Still plenty of US bases in the UK. England especially.
What's your point retard? Are you saying Germany, Canada, Brunei, Kenya, Belize etc are currently conquered by the UK?

Do you even understand why you have bases here?

>>53195947
The Mongols were the best at military conquest, beating the Wehrmacht by quite a margin. But their empire didn't last. It fragmented pretty quickly. In a way they transitioned from rising empire to imperial overstretch within one generation.

>>53190806
and the white house is occupied by a kenyan.

So does that make Kenya the most powerful nation?

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>>53196243

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>>53196427
;_;

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>>53196250
I'm saying that you're all American fucking vassals. ESPECIALLY YOU

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>>53196813
Ok

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>>53196972
perfidious albion strikes again.

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>>53196427
Back to the old folks home

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>>53197094
ran out of banter already sanchez?

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>>53197159

>>53197089
There's nothing perfidious about that.

The only reason Americans were butthurt about it is because many of you are totally delusional about your own importance. It's cringeworthy to see you guys go on about how we are a vassal or puppet, while in the real world the British government doesn't really care if it does something which upsets the US

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>>53196972
You just made because the special relationship is now THIS. All you did was copy us so you wouldn't feel left out. Now back to the old folks home, before you spill your gruel.

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>>53197323
>All you did was copy us so you wouldn't feel left out.
Stop posting, you are embarrassing yourself

>>53196427
I gotta say while Anglos in general have more humor than Germans (no big feat but it's not that we don't have any humor at all) the British play in their own league above everybody else. It's marvellous.

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>>53197159
You tell me Ahmad...

>>53197432
What is AIIB? An Asian bank to improve Asian infrastructure? Im jelly how?

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>>53197527
>he can't even spell achmed correctly

wew lad

>>53197748
>that picture
Is circumcision mandatory in Florida?

>>53197748
Learn to GOOGLE

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>>53197748
>He gets his panties in a twist over the spelling of Achmed

>>53197630
I'm not saying you should be jealous. I wish your government didn't comment on it at all. But for some reason they are angry we joined.

If you don't know about the AIIB, why did you say we copied you? Why are you still posting if you're *this* stupid?

>>53197815
NO

>>53197815

Yes, the Jews have a tight grip on Florida.

If this boy hadn't played truant on every single penis inspection day, his ordeal would have been over much sooner.

>>53197748
There's no actual direct translation of arabic to english, many letters are interchangeable.

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>>53197833
>>53197840
murrikeks mad as fuck lol

>>53197815
100% mandatory in all of america.

>>53197848
We made china our most important political partner...you go mad, and threw it back at us. Your country is broke, strapped for cash and no longer relevant. What is there to envy??

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>>53197994
>What is there to envy??

not having a nigger as head of state.

>>53197994
>everything is about the USA
This is getting sad. Wanting more trade in the East has nothing to do with the US. Why do think we even care?

>>53185109
>When the time of America passes, how will history remember them I wonder?

the country that kept the barbarians of europe from starting any more world wars

>>53197815
No, she kidnapped the son to prevent the circumcision but had to agree for it to proceed.

>>53197848
We're angry because it's a rival to the World bank and is primarily operated in a way that benefits China over any other Asian countries.
You're basically aiding China become a superpower.

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I would say at their peaks the UK was more powerful

They're difficult to compare because the worlds they ruled were so different, which is quite shocking when you realise they both hit their peaks in the same century

The best thing about having back to back UK Empire and American cultural and economic Empires is English has been set in stone as the lingua franca and that won't change for a VERY long time, If ever.

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>>53198104
China would be nothing without US industry being exported there. Even china admitted that the US founded the AIIG. ALL your doing is attempting to take credit for what we did because you don't want to feel left out.

USA is the most important political entity on the planet...go visit your local military base to remind you. 10,000 US troops currently stationed there...and COUNTING.

>>53198104
>>53198050
You wont win this bro. Better stop now b4 you get butthurt.

>>53198471
I really, really like this image

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>>53198317
Can't take the heat...stay the fuck out the kitchen.

both america and britain is run by kikes

everything americans and brits have accomplished is thanks to kikes

>>53198124
>No, she kidnapped the son to prevent the circumcision but had to agree for it to proceed.
wat?

>>53183340
Probably the British Empire, we literally invaded a country and defeated them in under 40 minutes.

>>53198658
Britain isn't shit to me. I renounce them.

>>53199006
wat?

>>53198658
Okay, then which one had more kikes at their height?

>>53196360

yes, making you a kenyan client state

>>53198124
>You're basically aiding China become a superpower.

Exactly. The UK's relative position is strengthened when the likes of China, India and others get stronger. Personally I don't think they have it in them to become a proper superpower, but they will be an important great power and challenge the US on various issues.

From our POV it's better to have multiple strong powers competing rather than a single dominant power.

>>53199689

just drop it, you got btfo

kenyan

>>53199872
Nothing personnel, kid

>>53199689
I agree with this, actually.

The US foreign policy idea of being a "leader" in global affairs has backfired immensely.

America needs to prioritize bettering itself, and keeping away from foreign conflicts that further destroy us.

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*** GOTT STRAFE ENGLAND ***

>>53183340
Made a poll for this, please vote, guys
http://strawpoll.me/6469092

>>53200309

I hope we leave nato

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>>53200605
>>53200309
We need to stop supporting allies who don't want to support their allies.

>>53199689
>what was the British Empire

>>53200684

germans be like

america can save them, I gotta go watch this arab bull with my wife

>>53200605
>>53200684
Yep, none of our allies truly have our backs, and some of them (Turkey) can't be trusted.

We have no reason to antagonize Russia as some part of "Western obligation". We can work together with them as partners on certain issues, obviously we won't agree on everything.

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>>53200309
Well there are pros and cons, for you and us. From your POV there are clear advantages to containing China and dominating various international systems, but the downside is all the fallout if containment fails. You also have to consider all the US allies in that region. Once they sense weakness, they'll put less importance in their relationship with the US and that will hurt you. Alternatively, if you fully commit to defending them and overextend, it could draw you into an expensive conflict that the American public don't have the stomach for.

From the UK's POV, a world with the US as sole superpower means stability, and it's a world in which we thrive as US ideals of free trade, liberalism, capitalism, are also British ideals. A multi-polar world is less stable and more dangerous, but it also holds more opportunity for a country like the UK if we feel ambitious, and moreover it will force us to beef up defence spending and be more assertive. The current government has already made it explicit that the increasing instability means the UK should be more assertive and bold.

>>53200782
>what was the British Empire
The British Empire was what happened after Britain's major rivals exhausted themselves with war, and Britain combined innovation, clever diplomacy and military skill to outmanoeuvre larger more powerful countries.

Consider that the *vast majority* of soldiers who policed the British Empire were not British.

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>>53200984
>Pakistan is our ally
>we find Bin Laden in Abottabad
>they let the chinese examine our downed top secret stealth chopper

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>>53201110
>Saudi Arabia is our ally
>fly planes into our buildings
>Israel is our ally
>blow up our sailors and control the government through aipac

I could do this all day

>>53201059
I'm not opposed to helping Asian allies like Singapore, Japan, or even Vietnam that welcome US influence in the region.

I think the US should stop defending South Korea. The relationship doesn't sound mutually beneficial, and only takes more unnecessary funds from our coffers.

>>53199689
from my point of view the jedi are evil

>>53201376
Doesn't South Korea welcome US influence?

>>53202309
I wonder about that.

The people at least are racist as fuck, and don't seem grateful. Do we even get paid for being there?

>>53202409
I don't think you protect the S-Koreans for their own good, I would presume you do it because it's a good foothold against the Norks and The PLA

>>53202502
We can easily do that from Japan though. Without having to get dragged into a war in case North Korea ever starts something.

>>53202550
Japan is obviously the better choice, but it's still better to have more options than less. You're also still technically bound to protect South Korea due to them *technically* still being at War with Best Korea.

>>53202409
>>53202550
If the US isn't there, then there will be Chinese influence. That's what I was saying earlier. You have to choose between accepting less influence in the region, or accepting that you might be drawn into big expensive wars

>>53192327
>China
Rekted 'em
>Russia
Crimean War
>India
We never fought against 'em...

>>53202680
The UN fought on behalf of South Korea in the war though, so I'm annoyed that we're bearing the burden of constant defense.

>>53202698
I guess I can see your point.

At the least, we can stay in Eastern Asia, but we don't need troops in Europe. And we definitely don't need to be in the Middle East.

>>53183518
Pierre, mon fils, why so much edge?

>>53202993
Because this guy was rude af today

>>53202950
The U.N isn't in any way powerful like the U.S, realistically you provided the military brunt for that campaign (as well as us and the Commonwealth). Being the global hegemon isn't all sunshine and daises lad.

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>>53200984
Oh go kill yourself you teabagging pos

>>53203172
What did he say to you lad?

>>53203384
>Latuff

I hate the US as much as the next lad but Carlos Latuff is a dumb monkey

>>53203384
Fuck off, our foreign policy has been harming us since the dawn of the 21st Century.

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>>53201059
You've learned well from me britbong, except for that last statement...you're military is ass without US protection. You have sparatic economic influence, but a fool if you think that you can regain dominance through Chinese ruse. They will eat the west alive and all we value. Cross us and you'll regret it.

>>53203172
was just a prank

>>53203667
YOU
WILL
PAY
FOR
THIS

>>53203588
>>53203588
Our foreign policy is the only keeping this world from tearing itself apart...and you teabags were all for it during the bush years. so fuck you.

>>53200684
That goes especially for britbongs

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>>53200684
>>53203832
>That goes especially for britbongs
We are one of the few US allies that pulls its weight and doesn't free ride, pic related. But if you're the same guy I was talking to earlier, you want a slave state that follows US policy on everything, not an ally

>>53203832
We do support our allies though...?

>>53204061
>pulls its weight
>lets Greece be ahead of it with percent of GDP on defense even though its economy is in shambles

We're strong through sheer economic force

I think we are more "powerful" at our height in terms of relative strength but I like how the British Empire ruled worldwide during a time of low space-time convergence, which made administration very difficult, with low base resources and economy themselves, and through shrewd geopolitical strategy in playing everyone against each other (read: perfidious).

We aren't a very interesting superpower. Of course maybe that's just the nature of the modern, globalized world.

>>53204209
>Greece is bad with money

What's new?

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>>53204061
You do what we say and like it. I'd rather take 50 lashes in times square than fight another goddamn world conflict because of your fuck up.

>>53204423
>I'd rather take 50 lashes in times square than fight another goddamn world conflict because of your fuck up.

lol what.

>>53204209
Why would we base our spending on what the Greeks do? I'm sure they have their own reasons. British defence spending should be just what is necessary to defend British interests with a floor of 2% and a flexible ceiling

>>53202680

we own japan.

>>53204061
>you want a slave state that follows US policy on everything, not an ally

I want friends.

>>53204455
you're smart...you figure it out.
>ww1
>ww2

>>53204532
I didn't know you fought in the world wars.

>>53204508
>I want friends.

David Cameron will make anime girlfriends real
Vote to remain in the EU

>>53204078
Not lately...go suck on Chinese dick traitor.

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>>53204853
okay then

>>53204853
>implying America has any loyalty to the UK

>>53204508
There are no friends in geopolitics, only alliances.

>>53205176
Not even Canada?

>>53205288

Their fate is tied to ours. They're like a baby at our hip.

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>>53205288
ESPECIALLY CANADA

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>>53205326
Don't be so sure.

>>53197089
>perfidious albion strikes again.
guess you learned well from us
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/8304654/WikiLeaks-cables-US-agrees-to-tell-Russia-Britains-nuclear-secrets.html

>>53195863
Not during the British century

>>53183573
ita bene