What's funny is that even if Europe stops all Muslim immigration right now (lol it won't), once the old, Whiter generations die off, the Muslim population will rise to 5-15% since they're younger.
In other words, Western Europe is demographically, culturally fucked except for a couple countries.
Who cares about fertility rates of Muslims? Islamaphobia has to STOP.
The difference is in the scripture and fundamentals of the religion though.
Lets think it like this. A person is standing on the edge of a roof, about to jump to their death. Two people are present. The other one shouts "do it you fucking worthless piece of shit" and the other one shouts "please dont do it im begging you you have a life ahead of you".
Are they both equally responsible if the person jumps?
Latin America and Eastern Europe confirmed for last hope of mankind
You fucking westerners ruined everything I swear to god, jesus, how is it possible that one culture could fuck up so bad.
I mean yeah, our economy has collapsed a couple of times and our nation isn't the safest but we never doomed humanity to a perpetual existance kneeling to some shitty pigsty city in the Arabian penninsula.
You're all such fucking failures, I swear on me mum the world would have been better off if you faggots hadn't fucked a neanderthal.
The Vatican needs to move to Argentina because you colossally incompetent morons just fucking doomed every worthwhile part of the planet to kebabs and rugs.
Holy shit I hate you so much.
Scripture like how the Qur'an forbids murder and suicide? And how killing even a single innocent is the same as killing the whole world? Hmm. Tell me more about the fundamentals...
I hate you all and if you didn't kill a muslim today you're horrible people.
Quran does not forbid murder, just murdering another muslim. You can kill any non-muslim if they dont denounce their faith and become muslims. This is quite clear from Quran 2:191-193 and Quran 5:33.
Nice try at a little kitman though
NOPE. That is wrong, Qur'an teaches there is NO compulsion in religion. Those verses were written at a time when those unbelievers were persecuting Islam.
Islam now, and always, believes in DEFENSIVE war only
Some are from the NT, such as "I do not allow a woman to teach". However, I don't know why that is "against Western values". Westerners often have very schizo ideas about what "the West" values.
Here's the thing about Christianity
You can not give a fuck, get confessed, and be fine.
At least that's true in the only kind of Christianity worth practising.
>what matters is what the violence is over not that there is violence
>the only kind of Christianity worth practising
here you go then
Just select any option on the right and see the pages upon pages of ridiculous shit there is in the New Testament too
That's not true and you know it. Hundreds of millions of muslims around the world believe you should get a death sentence for apostasy, like it says in the Quran.
>Those verses were written at a time when those unbelievers were persecuting Islam.
What about Quran 25:52. Thats a Meccan verse from a time muslims were no longer persecuted.
> "Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness..."
What next, out of context? Bad translation?
>I can assure you there is next no violence in this country committed by Muslims
>nothing that far surpasses what any other group does
Read the rest of the post, the Muslims in this country commit violent acts at about the same rate as any native Brit
you'll just have to accept that eventually chica
You already posted that in another thread and it was shit then and its shit now. Not one of those is a command for PEOPLE to do violence or carry out harsh punishments. That's the difference. The NT scares you with god and what happens after you die, but islam brings hell on earth by ordering men to punish, not god.
Looks like America's attitude is rubbing off on you, keep eating up that media portrayal, all the facts suggest otherwise. You see the shit happening in the Middle East and the few rogue crazy people in Europe, newsflash there have been many mass murder sprees committed by natives of those lands too. It's time to face the truth.
>Muslims represent only 4.7 per cent of the population in England and Wales, according to the most recent Census, yet one in seven prisoners (14 per cent) in England and Wales is a Muslim, according to the statistics.
>In some jails the proportion of Islamic inmates is more than one-third, and in Whitemoor, a Category A prison in Cambridgeshire, it is as high as 43 per cent.
he was a cunt, but no more of a cunt than anyone else who's been in his position
I'm not even a Muslim, I just said two posts ago that Muhammad, like any other general of a medieval army, was a cunt. My issue these days is everyone jumping on the Islamophobic bandwagon when all data suggests otherwise. I'd do the same with any other false truth that was being spouted here
>My issue these days is everyone jumping on the Islamophobic
I'm not afraid of Islam I just want it, and everyone that practices it, to die.
>I'd do the same with any other false truth
Also, it's not a false truth, as a religion and as a cultural group Muslims are in fact backwards and not compatible with western values.
I'm just seeing different views on culture and politics here. Not anything about Muslims being inherently more violent due to their religion.
In terms of Sharia Russia it even says this question was asked of those living in Muslim areas of Russia, and the rest were majority Muslim nations anyway, aka Kyrgystan, Lebanon etc.
Again, there's no data anywhere that says Muslims as a whole are more prone to violence. Yes, countries that identify as Muslims are having huge politically driven wars right now (regardless of how much they claim it's some divine war) but the facts remain. Muslims are like any other group of people, you get your good eggs, and you get your cunts. You get the vocal minority, and you get the peaceful majority. It can be applied to any religion or race in the entire world.
Chechan separatism = political
'Terrorist attacks' for Jihadi reasons in Afghanistan, Iraq, the Middle East in general are currently acts of war. If Americans do it it's a tactical strike, if Iraqis do it it's a terrorist attack
Why would I give a seminar? When was the last time you changed someones mind by speaking to them, it's a waste of time. I'm just annoyed with how easily people are manipulated by images on TV, 6% of terrorist attacks worldwide are committed by Islamic Extremists, and 42% by Latino gangs. If I were to be stupid enough to judge someone based on their culture or heritage I'd be smarter to suspect you the Mexican, than any Muslim
But I wouldn't, because I'm not dumb.
Thats a bit more than 6% though >>53161531
That's listed in the order of death toll by the way, latino gangs may do more in absolute numbers but jihadists do bigger attacks.
Now we're getting somewhere. No people would be good people if they followed the rules of a book written by men in pre-history. That's just the nature of a worldview based on outdated beliefs. All religious people who are good people hardly practise their book word for word. That's just reality
Chechan separatism is a political agenda. Like the ETA seperatists of Spain who've carried out many terrorist attacks are Christian, yet you wouldn't class their acts as Christian terrorism. Also the situation in Ireland, it was all Christians committing those acts, but we wouldn't say it was Christian terrorism, we'd readily accept it was a political issue.
It's just too easy now days to take any act by any Muslim as being because of their religion. It's not like we take all these school shooters as having done their acts because of their background, no we call them lone wolves
I'm trying to have a little consistency here
satan detected, fuck you and fuck muhammed
regardless, we would still be fitter to suspect latinos way more than muslims, but that seems so alien to us because latinos arent the ones shown committing terrorist attacks on the news all the time
>When was the last time you changed someones mind by speaking to them, it's a waste of time
>I'm just annoyed with how easily people are manipulated by images on TV
>All religious people who are good people hardly practise their book word for word. That's just reality
My original point was that scripture and fundamentals of the religion are relevant when discussing its role in creating violence. It still stands.
And for the record, I see plenty of news stories about mexican decaptitations.
Fuck off you piece of shit, no one is buying your shit. We've all seen what Muslims do and if they were so peaceful you wouldn't be posting with an American flag. Every country has problems with Muslims, every Muslim country is a shithole, and cancer like you always defend it from the distance of any Muslims. Suicide belt yourself pedophile following shit skin.
No you fucking retard, people hate Muslims because the TV WONT REPORT THEIR CRIMES, fags like you scream islamaphobia and they turn areas into violent unsafe ghetto. Everywhere there is Muslims has violent separatist movements, backward laws, rape and pesophilia and torture. The facts are out there and you just chose to ignore them.
>tfw zimbabwe richer than us and russia
we are fucking losers
out of control, don' think americas recovering from this one any time too soon
Islamaphobia is a stupid concept. phobia implies an unreasonable fear. islam teaches and encourages violence. it is reasonable to be wary of it.
Birth rate usually change depending on the quality of life. Just give it a few years and the rate will decrease. I don't think the muslim percentage is going any higher than 15%.
I grew up here but have been in the city for like 8 years just recently came back I'll be fine.
I live down the street from a family straight out of the hills have eyes. They are a punchline for my family and friends. It's not common outside of them though.
I live about a block away from this picture. I recently applied to one of the shit buildings to the right (its a cafe)
>Muddy terrain, rivers everywhere, dangerous river fauna, jungle, hot as fuck
>Vietnamese major immigration
Probably feels like home to them
>Industrious crime-ridden zone
Feels like home as well.
>Most nordic state in US
>Somalis go there
Just like its European counterpart