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honestly no idea if it's hard or not
but I guess developers choose to build modern apartments designed for people from 21st century and not everyone have some fetish about old traditional european architecture, a lot of people would say it's kitschy or too fancy
most people actually don't even care about external looks so yeah - it's easier to just go with modernist, minimalist looks
So is hard to make apartments and buildings similar to Pic related?
Rotterdam is completely different
I guess WW2 is the reason :^) ?
this is just a historical centre mainly kept for cultural reasons
there is a way better housing now than that especially in a dense metropolis...
you know there are people legitly liking modern architecture too - that's why it's a thing after all
I just don't understand people who demand a lot of new buildings to be built in old fashioned way
it's like going back to 19th century and saying these people "no no, let's build it like in the Middle Ages"
>you know there are people legitly liking modern architecture too - that's why it's a thing after all
and 75% of people don't really care that much anyway kek
pic related looks comfy and its in tbilisi
China is relatively poor especially rural areas
Shanghainese old towns are pretty good too.
every era has something great to offer
there is no "best" or "worst", atleast that's what I believe
where? they are probably just tearing down some rundown
also the ones I post are probably just reconstructed anyway
Jeddah Tower, the future tallest building in the world (1000m+)
>Why do they need it to be that tall?
For the same reason Chrysler Building, Empire State Building and Sears Towers went for the world tallest building record
>Why do these Gulf Arabs build all of these cities filled with highrises in a desert?
Jeddah has 3.4 million people. It's not exactly building in an empty desert.
>dont understand why MENA prefer western countries instead of UAE
Prefer how? As an immigration destination? UAE is pretty small(so all these immigrants can't go there) also I think Europe has much more liberal immigration policy and actually all the policy. And even despite ridiculous wealth of Gulf States, Western Europe is still a better place to live (welfare, tolerance, equality, freedom of speech and religion) as long as you aren't an oil sheik.
I guess and yeah it could be nice
>For the same reason Chrysler Building, Empire State Building and Sears Towers went for the world tallest building record
That's a good point
>Jeddah has 3.4 million people. It's not exactly building in an empty desert.
I didn't know it was that big and also isn't that building being built in a brand new part of the city?
yeah they are building a whole new district, they are not just building 1 tower
personally I think it looks like a drammatic overinvestment(I actually thought that this Jeddah Tower won't be even started), but we will see...
>Western Europe is still a better place to live
they just complain about white privilege and want those countries to adapt to their rules like no pork, no cross(crusades), no christmass trees, etc
muslims in muslims contries, western customs go against muslims customs
I was there about a year ago, snapped this pic
definitely an underrated, top tier cosmopolitan city
Yes that's probably the case, Saudi Arabia is completely reliant on oil, UAE has tourism and financial sector(though even they are reliant on oil, besides Dubai).
What's funny, almost every world tallest building record was followed by economical crisis.
Even the last one - Burj Khalifa is the case.
That was Western Europe's choice too. They have chosen to go multi-cultural - though their population is still predominantly Western, you can't say they are homogenous, they are far from it. While they still praise all of the Western values, they agreed to have shariah law areas in their countries where even their police can't intervene. More and more Western Europe is starting to look like some cosmopolitian dystopia.
Islam is islam, it's not just a religion, it's a political system aswell, designed to conquer, to dominate everyone and everything and every sphere of life. You can't really blame these people, they were raised from kid like this.
Their values, their customs their whole lifestyle condradict ours, in addition to that a lot of Muslims, especially extremists hold a grudge on the Western world because of colonial rule. Actually Islam from it's very beginning was holding a grudge - back then it was on Romans and Muslims were obsessed about Rome(or atleast Constantinople). They are our nemesis and we should be aware of that, I don't think allowing them to build a self governing areas in our countries is the way to go.
Living in the countryside isn't expensive at all, living in a major city is MUCH MORE expensive.
But yeah there is no jobs, no entertainment, no higher education, quite restricted social life etc.
>>I wish I could live on the countryside.
The grass is always greener...
One of new Hefei CBD's renders. Currently in preparation. The tallest tower will be 550 m tall.
>Islam came after rome fell
Eastern Roman Empire survived(and no one at the time called them other than "Romans") and still controlling crucial parts of the Middle East and North Africa like Egypt and Syria so if Arabs ever wanted to expand they had to beat them. But even after that and taking control of basically all of the MENA Muslims were so fucking autistically obsessed with wiping out Byzantines and seizing Constantinople...
>are you polish?
Yeah I'm Polish, why?
>Muslims were so fucking autistically obsessed with wiping out Byzantines and seizing Constantinople
they werent obsessed, you are putting it like if europe is the center of the world
it was just conquest
Both cities had a population of ~0.5 million, its impossible now to say which one was larger. But Constantinople was more relevant.
And initially yeah Muslims probably were more against Persians, Byzantines were "People of the Book" after all, but Sassanids were easily steamrolled and their culture and religion never was any kind of competition to Islam, they were easily assimilated. Christianity on the other hand, was a competing monotheistic universal religion with great influence and great potential so I think Muslims realized that it's a much greater threat to their jihad. And Byzantines were the symbol of Christianity, Constantinople the wealthiest and richest Christian city.
I watched some historical Muslim movies(made by Muslims) and it really depicts both Arabs and later Turks obsessed with muh Constantinople.
Also, it's year 2016 and Muslim extremists still can't get over the fact they didn't conquer Rome yet. See, ISIS video with Rome.
ok ok ok
even with clear sources that says that Ctesiphon was the largest city and problably more relevant that constantinople and you still say the contrary so i will just leave it here.
>but Sassanids were easily steamrolled and their culture and religion never was any kind of competition to Islam, they were easily assimilated
if you read some history you will know what really happened but you are just blocked with europe being the best of all.
and i stopped reading right after that
you white people are very ignorant on foreign history, atleast have the decency to read before writting those stupid statements, good night