Time to vent my frustrations of living in America. Fellow like-minded

harden up you whingey cunt

>>53113979
I am studying International Relations with an economics focus, and I want to serve in the Peace Corps after college, then either work for the state department (because that non-competitive eligibility) or go into international business. Idk what I want to do yet. I am going to be in a LOT of debt when I graduate. The fucking higher education system in America is so fucked. The way colleges squeeze every last penny out of students, then force students to pay ridiculous sums of money for DECADES after they leave college is so heinous and reprehensible it makes me sick. My GPA is 3.9. I am involved with clubs and organizations on campus, I truly care about education and think that it's the most important thing in any civilized society. Despite the fact that most people around me at school don't give a fuck or don't perform nearly as well as I do, I am still forced to take on the burden of tens of thousands of dollars just because I want an education.

It's very important to me to live in a walkable city when I graduate, because I don't want to have to pay a car bill, insurance, gas, and repairs to save money and maintain a healthy lifestyle. In the extremely few number of nice, walkable areas in American cities, rent prices are stupid high. The smallest studio apartment is going to cost you +$2000/month in the best walkable areas. There are very, VERY few affordable walkable neighborhoods in American cities. Unless you get lucky or are making a ton of money, you are forced to live in dreadful, dismal apartment buildings located somewhere where it isn't at all feasible to walk anywhere.

>>53114015

All of this is so fucked up. I'm literally moving down on the social ladder relative to my parents despite the fact that I've followed all the rules, I've done everything I need to up to this point to be a successful and productive member of society. (And they can't help me financially because my mom fucked our family's finances with credit card debt that amounts to paying an extra mortgage every month)

Welcome to America, where the best and brightest of the next generation is punished for wanting to live within walking distance of a grocery store and for obtaining an education.
I'm not anti-American, far from it. But goddammit this country is so fucked up it makes me wanna fucking scream

ok i see this was a serious thread, i am sorry for my post

>>53114015
Have you thought about living overseas with that degree? Doesn't that also include learning a language with it?

My current plan is to get some experience as a translator and eventually cash in on any languages with good markets. I'll be living in some proper shitholes a lot of the time but it should be interesting. I've heard freelancing is hard but it sounds like a fun job.

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I hate how goddamn fucking stupid the majority of US citizens are.

HOLY FUCKING SHIT
DID YOU EVEN GO TO SCHOOL?

GODDAMN RETARDS
RAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH

No frustrations. High school drop out, 65k salary at an average of 30 to 35 hours per week.

Learn useful skills, I guess

>>53114009
I wish I had a wily criminal friend with a funny accent to just engage in daily banter with

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>tfw no european culture stretching back thousands of years
>tfw no national pride
>tfw no unique language
>tfw national past time is smoking weed
>tfw we exist to consume products and make others rich
>tfw everyone is the same

>>53114159
Yeah I've considered it, I'll be fluent in Spanish if I work in the peace corps (knock on wood), so I could probably find a decent job in Latin America somewher. I just have a lot of pressure to stay in America, because of family and whatnot.

>>53114170
I always tell myseld that not everyone has access to the education that I do, and therefore their stupidity isn't their fault necessarily. But it still does get frustrating

>>53114207
What do you do? Do you enjoy it?

>>53114222
>tfw no european culture stretching back thousands of years
>tfw national past time is smoking weed
>tfw we exist to consume products and make others

I feel you anon, it hurts

>>53114222
>>tfw no european culture stretching back thousands of years
We have hundreds of years of fisticuffs m8
>>tfw no national pride
The fuck are you talking about?
>>tfw no unique language
American English is fairly unique
>>tfw national past time is smoking weed
It is, just not legally everywhere yet
>>tfw we exist to consume products and make others rich
Such is life as the first world proletariat masses
>>tfw everyone is the same
America isn't a melting pot. It's a salad bowl

Are you angry, dude?

>jobs won't hire you without a degree, usually a Bachelor's
>get degree
>jobs won't hire you without experience

This probably isn't unique to the US, but it frustrates the fuck out of me.

>>53114015
Get over it douchenozzle. Go anywhere else in the western world and it's pretty much guaranteed to be more expensive to live.

>>53114526
They don't do a good job of making clear how important internships are despite them being bullshit work.

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>I was curious about moving to the Pacific Northwest but it turns out everyone and their mother is going there.
>I despise areas that are just strip malls with fucked up trees surrounding them. Living next to New Jersey means they're all over the place.
>Our political scene is so binary and most people are ok with being extremely entrenched on one side or another.
>I am short
>Indians are moving into my neighborhood and cutting all the trees down in their yards. Seriously what the FUCK
>I pick up trash off the ground, nobody else does this
>colt stopped making revolvers
>Many Americans are really wasteful. We need to pick up some eco-friendly habits... even if it's not using plastic bags
>I am legitimately afraid of being sued by my fellow Americans
>American women are, on average, not as friendly as their Euro counterparts
>I hate the materialism here... above ALL else

still the best nation ever IMO

>>53114370
Spoken like a true progressive warrior, go back to listening to your podcasts about Bernie sanders lad

>>53114365
Nice, I've thought of the Peace Corps too. Any specific country/region you want to go to in it?

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>asian american
>american culture does not allow for people to perceive asians as masculine.
>asian women dating white men
>universities practice negative affirmative action, making it harder to get accepted.
>not represented in the media at all; except as a token, joke character, or racist steriotype.

>>53114585
Yes and no. My daily living is pretty expensive but I have good public transport here and live in a walkable area, my education is not very expensive, medical is cheap and I live in a bad area for Israel to save a bit of money but if I lived in an area this cheap in America I would probably be shot or raped but here the worst ghettos are safer then middle class us neighborhood. So depending how you live America can be more difficult.

>>53114630
Refute anything I said

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>wake up
>still not an american

>>53114746
You live in a country the size of Massachusetts.

>>53114526
Same

>>53114585
Go anywhere else in the western world and you can live in a reasonably priced neighborhood where you can actually walk places and interact with your neighbors, see >>53114746


>>53114735
Latin America, I don't really have a preference as to which country. Most positions are offered in Colombia, Peru, and Mexico. Peace Corps is definitely worth looking into, the benefits of serving are ridiculous

>>53114744
Some real feels man, good luck out

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>>53114624
continued:
>Indian families have like 20 kids each
>Most American women just throw on yoga pants and a hoodie now. I find practically ANY other clothing style attractive now
>I don't like alcohol but it feels central to social interactions (in college at least)
>Mixed race. Not accepted by whites or asians. Would stick with "my kind" buy Eurasian qts are super rare
>I don't see owls ANYWHERE and they're my favorite animal
>I find half-white half-jewish girls unbelievably beautiful, but they're hard to find
>Trump is a walking meme and Hilary is an obsolete democrat simulator

>>53114845
Neat. I've thought about serving since reading all the testimonials and how it supposedly changes your perspective for life. You're also immune to boredom after spending 2 years with very little to do in your free time. Good luck

>>53114845
You've clearly never been anywhere. You're complaining just for the sake of complaining and a gross amount of it is based on willful ignorance.

There are a number of places you can move in the US that are walkable and expensive. And guess what, they're almost all cheaper than their foreign counterparts in the west.

>>53114796
What is there to refute? You made no points at all, your language and demeanor just came across as the typical type of cookie cutter person who thinks socialism will save him of all his troubles, it isn't hard to discern

>>53114015
>It's very important to me to live in a walkable city when I graduate, because I don't want to have to pay a car bill, insurance, gas, and repairs to save money and maintain a healthy lifestyle. In the extremely few number of nice, walkable areas in American cities, rent prices are stupid high. The smallest studio apartment is going to cost you +$2000/month in the best walkable areas.

Buy a used car and learn to do repairs yourself. That's what I do, although it is an occasional pain in the ass.

>>53114822
And? It's an advantage, I can go to a new city every weekend and find something to do.

>>53114015
> The smallest studio apartment is going to cost you +$2000/month in the best walkable areas.
Bad news son. That's true in most countries you'd want to live in.

>>53114951
It just makes your comparison wholly invalid.

>>53114996
What the hell does size have to do with affordable education, Cheap medicine, less violence in lower income areas, and good public transport?

>>53114915
>You're complaining just for the sake of complaining

All of my greivances are well-founded and justifiable, I am not ignorant.

>There are a number of places you can move in the US that are walkable and expensive. And guess what, they're almost all cheaper than their foreign counterparts in the west.

I've addressed this already, see >>53114746

>>53114902
It irritates the fuck out of me how widespread binge drinking is. Like, I love casual drinking and I think it's a must-have at parties, but at every party people drink way to much and get completely shitty to the point where having any meaningful interaction with them whatsoever is impossible. No one knows when enough is enough.

Maybe it's like that in other countries too, idk

>>53114975
I am aware. The difference is in America, there are no other options if you want to live in a walkable neighborhood. Perhaps I should have clarified that because nobody seems to be understanding my point

>>53115049
A lot when you look at how it affects how a country is physically organized.

>>53115077
So you're ignoring the options because the truth is inconvenient for you. Got it.

> The difference is in America, there are no other options if you want to live in a walkable neighborhood.
Also false. You're just too lazy to do basic research.

>>53114170
It's ridiculous how easy passing public school was, now that I think back on it. I didn't have any income advantages and I was still placed in advanced classes without an evaluation.

>>53115080
Living in a large counttry doens't mean you have to design sprawling cities, nor does it mean the education and health care systems can't be structured differently

>>53115111
I have done my research. There are very, very few options for walkable neighborhoods. I literally explore google earth, research American urban centers, and look at real estate prices for fun.

However you seem to know more information than I do. Please feel free to share what you know that might allow me to reevaluate my opinions

>>53115144
Depends on the school and location. In my school, we had plenty of AP offerings and interesting classes.

>>53115080
Size of America has nothing to do with anything discussed in this thread. Russia is huge and still has public transport and cheaper education despite being shitty in most other ways. Medical in the U.S. Is crazy too. I had insurance and still paid a lot for a broken hand. Part of why I moved back to Israel is too many Americans think their system is just fine and make all these dumb excuses for it but if you're on your own and start with very little money to begin with in America you are pretty fucked and struggle worse then most the western world.

>>53115111
Also, "the truth"? Please enlighten me

>>53115205
Yeah, same for mine. The top AP classes were filled with borderline geniuses who all went to great Tech schools (some ivy league) while there was an entire half of the school that were in pretty much children's classes. It's a pretty good analogy for the country as a whole.

>>53114802
Count your blessings

>>53115211
Are you Jewish? What are Israeli attitudes toward non-Jewish professional working men? Could I land an engineering job and integrate into society without converting to the faith?

>>53115238
My brother just started his associate's in accounting at a community college to save money before transferring. His intro accounting math class is basically simple arithmetic, not even algebra.

>>53115253
I'm only half Jewish and none religious at all, I deal with none Jews on a daily basis but I'm pretty sure it's hard to get in Israel as a none Jew. Most regular people have a decent attitude towards none Jews here other then Muslims. The negative here is cost of living is very high and salaries are very low but with that said I'm poor but always have food, live close to the beach, and can still enjoy life without spending a lot so depending on what's important to you it could be great here or shit here.

Get fucked commie sympathisers

>>53115412
Didn't your country host the Shining Path? You are a hypocrite

>>53115374
>The negative here is cost of living is very high and salaries are very low but with that said I'm poor but always have food, live close to the beach, and can still enjoy life without spending a lot so depending on what's important to you it could be great here or shit here.
How does that add up? With the price of real estate, are you forced to live in unclean or small spaces? Does social welfare cover your cost of living?

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>>53113979
go back to your shrink and take moar anti depressents

>>53115463
Nope, only Derg

>>53115315
I should qualify this post by saying that there's literally nothing wrong with community college or state schools for an undergraduate education. There's no point in going to an expensive research university if you're going to be learning from year-2 text book. That said, my brother probably should have opted to skip his intro courses. CC's usually overlap with high school curricula because a lot of people who go to CC don't care to learn anything in high school.

>>53113979
OP confirmed for loser, can smell from here.

this thread makes living in america sound awful 2bh
i've wanted to move to America for the longest time but things don't look so good eh?

>>53114015
This is the gayest thing I have ever read.

>>53114044
Please shut the fuck up you whinging mutt.

>>53115724
>>53115747
what's your problem

>>53113979
>tfw always broke due to medal debt i'm still paying off
>tfw your social life is crippled because you can't afford a car
regardless, this is my home, and i'm grateful for that

>>53115701
You would enjoy it if you're actually coming from the UAE of all places. We only highlight the bad parts because we've been numbed to the positives by politics, /int/, and time.

>>53114902
>>Most American women just throw on yoga pants and a hoodie now. I find practically ANY other clothing style attractive now

I actually love this, the bar is set so low that I get tons of compliments for wearing dresses.

>>53115701
Every country has its faults. Our worst is probably student loans, but if you already have your degree or you're smart about your education then it's not so bad.

>>53114070
no its not. OP is joke.

>>53113979
L

>>53113979
O

>ITT angsty euroboos

>>53113979
S

>>53115701
America is a fantastic place to live so long as you have money. It's all about the money and the opportunities. Without them, you're fucked

i felt like this for awhile, until you actually travel outside the US. we actually have it pretty fucking good senpai

>>53114015
>nice fucking bait. Or nice autoreply script.

Our politics are really fucking awful, and even worse is how most people think politically. 90% of Americans are dissatisfied with our government yet all they do is complain about how dumb the other side is. There's a reason clickbait was invented on American social media; we all love getting mad at what other people do rather than say anything constructive (kind of like what I'm doing now).

But honestly, I don't think things are all that bad here. Yeah, education is expensive up front but if you get a smart degree at a state college you can pay it off in no time. The costs are only increasing because there are tons of retards who "follow their dreams" and spend $50k a year on worthless degrees at private colleges, increasing demand and further driving up prices.

I could probably nitpick most other complaints about us like too. We've got over 300 million fucking people and I'm sure if you randomly took that many Euros you'd find a quality of life at a similar level.

>>53115829
OP unfortunately invested heavily in a bad decision.
>I am studying International Relations with an economics focus, and I want to serve in the Peace Corps after college, then either work for the state department (because that non-competitive eligibility) or go into international business.
He sounds very romantic but not too business savvy, ironically.

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>get my master's degree with no debt
>nobody wants to hire me because I have no substantial experience outside of a few summer internships
>live with my parents in the suburbs where there are no jobs for people my age that aren't in retail
>suburbs are utterly soulless and absolutely require a car to get anywhere
>hate driving
>got flipped off by a redneck in a pickup truck with a Trump bumper-sticker the other day

>>53115952
Compared to what? 3rd world hell holes? Compared to western Europe or Australia? Unless your wealthy America is shit.

>>53114621
This so much
I am graduating with 2 years of internship experience and extensive personal experience. The internship pays $25 and hour for 25 hours a week. My partner at the internship just graduated and accepted a $76000 position before his graduation date. I know other people who didnt intern and didnt do personal projects and are working in manual labor.

You also have to accept that many fields, "open-ended" degrees like humanities and languages especially, have way more people with degrees than open jobs, and will not pay very well.

Computer Science btw

>wikipedia 'oligarchy'
>USA comes up as a real-world example
i want off this ride

>>53115538
I'm not on welfare but the Israeli government did give me something like 5 months of unemployment when I first moved here but the process to get it was a pain in the ass and I almost ran out of money before getting it but luckily everything worked out. I left off that my grandparents left me a condo here that was about 70% paid off so my payments on housing are tiny. The food adds up a lot, $100 barely buys 5 days worth of you try. Electronics are very expensive too. My condo isn't small or dirty but my street is pretty dirty because Africans live around here but basically why I moved is my old shit condo is getting torn down and since this one is almost paid off now I get a great deal on a brand new one even closer to the beach. So I decided to go to uni here mainly because 1) it's cheap 2) In around a year I'll be living in a brand new condo for the same price 3) I can survive without a car
After I graduate we'll see if I stay but with that new condo I pretty much am set and will most likely stay.

>>53115986
>$50k a year on worthless degrees at private colleges
Reminder that we have more graduates in food service than engineers, physicists, chemists and mathematicians combined.
http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2012/04/half_of_recent_college_grads_u.html
>Broken down by occupation, young college graduates were heavily represented in jobs that require a high school diploma or less.
>In the last year, they were more likely to be employed as waiters, waitresses, bartenders and food-service helpers than as engineers, physicists, chemists and mathematicians combined (100,000 versus 90,000). There were more working in office-related jobs such as receptionist or payroll clerk than in all computer professional jobs (163,000 versus 100,000). More also were employed as cashiers, retail clerks and customer representatives than engineers (125,000 versus 80,000).

>>53115986
>Our politics are really fucking awful, and even worse is how most people think politically. 90% of Americans are dissatisfied with our government yet all they do is complain about how dumb the other side is.

Yeah, the polarization in American politics is pretty awful right now. It's either one extreme or the other.

>>53116032
what's your degree in?

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Chicago is a really underrated city and not really thought of by young people. Relatively cheap rents (for a city its size) and we have a world class downtown and cultural attractive along with the second best rail network and 1st best bus system in the country. BTW Chicago is the #1 most walkable city in the country and 3rd best for biking (although I'm sure we will hit #1 soon due to CDOT installing over 100 miles of protected bike lanes in the next coming years.)
Rent here in the non-murder areas are around 1200-1800 month (depending on the location of the neighborhood).

>>53116068
I love how libs only care about sjw bullshit while we are all so utterly cucked by corporations its not even funny.

>>53116114
so basically, there is an over-saturation of people with degrees?? you can't artificially force better jobs, but if this is the case, sanders is probably right that it's time to evaluate income inequality. service jobs often have incomes that make it very hard to support a family, or sometime even to support one's self without roommates. but in reality, the system produces enough wealth to afford better wages for people in this positions. it's kind of fucked up that the per capita GDP (in PPP) has kept growing since the 70's while the minimum wage has decreased significantly in purchasing power.

>>53115166
You can get a 2besroom 20minutes walk from dowtown Chicago for under $1500 a month, in a neighborhood with supermarkets, pharmacies, school, a hospital, restaurants, bars, and drug dealers all within a 10 minute walk. If you dont mind living in a poor area you can find the same place for $600 another ten minutes by foot from downtown. Busses every 8 minutes cut the commute to downtown to 10 minutes. And that's the third largest city in the country.

>>53116080
Ah, you lucky bastard.

It doesn't sound like a welfare state, but at least they pay your medical and educational costs.

>>53116080
You finally left Houston, i see.
When do you have to report for service?


>>53116312
>you can find the same place for $600 another ten minutes by foot from downtown
What are the chances of getting mugged by some nig?

>>53116410
>but at least they pay your medical and educational costs.
If you join the national guard(or air national guard) most states waive tuition at public universities, while the federal government pays up to $4500 per year for your mandatory costs and you're still most likely eligible for a pell grant, which should cover almost all school related costs(including room and board). You also have access to fairly low cost health insurance.

>>53116275
>so basically, there is an over-saturation of people with degrees??
Yeah, intro microecon. Saturation of supply in the market for wages and labor lowers the equilibrium price. They're working in food service because there aren't enough positions in their native studies (psychology or fine-arts or whatever), or if there were positions available, they would actually be worth less than the wages McDonalds or Subway is paying them.
>you can't artificially force better jobs, but if this is the case, sanders is probably right that it's time to evaluate income inequality.
I guess. Social welfare should be a consideration. But this kind of tension is also natural to the labor market. There are jobs available or in demand, but those jobs are trade jobs or specialized technical professions. The workforce will eventually adjust to the disincentive of expensive, useless degrees.

>>53116040
Go to Western Europe or Australia. Living is far more expensive.

>>53116054
Bad example using computer science.

>>53116410
I pay those things, it's just cheap. And yes I got very lucky, Houston ghetto to beach side condo in a short time is pretty sweet.

>>53116913
I don't have to do service, new law changed that if your 22 or above you just don't the quick service thing which is like a few weeks and I'm not sure when that starts.

>>53116054
There's a lot of variation in fields related to language now, and a lot of potential. It's the people who learn French or Spanish and are surprised they can't find work out of college that bring the success rate down.

>>53116981
>Go to Western Europe or Australia. Living is far more expensive
Will this meme ever die? I spent FAR less on living expenses studying in France and Germany then I ever did back home in NC.

>>53117306
Cool anecdote dipshit. The average cost of living in the regions mentioned is much higher than the average cost of living in the US.

>>53115794
Thank you for having your own style. Seriously, anything from grunge high school tomboy to 1950s housewife is fine. just no more spandex ladies pls

>>53116913
>If you join the national guard(or air national guard) most states waive tuition at public universities, while the federal government pays up to $4500 per year for your mandatory costs and you're still most likely eligible for a pell grant, which should cover almost all school related costs(including room and board). You also have access to fairly low cost health insurance.
Sounds like a sweet deal. I thought about joining the marines in a technical capacity, but reneged at the last second.

>>53117333
http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_countries_result.jsp?country1=France&country2=United+States
>Rent Prices in United States are 45.45% higher than in France
>Groceries Prices in United States are 8.09% higher than in France
http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_countries_result.jsp?country1=United+States&country2=Germany
>Consumer Prices in Germany are 10.83% lower than in United States
>Consumer Prices Including Rent in Germany are 19.31% lower than in United States
>Rent Prices in Germany are 37.05% lower than in United States
>Restaurant Prices in Germany are 10.35% lower than in United States
>Groceries Prices in Germany are 29.40% lower than in United States
>Local Purchasing Power in Germany is 5.06% higher than in United States
These don't even include the price of healthcare and our third world wages.

>can't afford a house
>renting is more expensive in the long run
>education costs tens of thousands
>even after that you are likely to just get a 30-40k salary
>drive 40 minutes to get to work
>hope I never have a medical condition because I'd be fucked financially
>can't ever call in sick to work so I have to eat garlic cloves and wash my hands every 2 seconds, keep out of human contact
>everyone is at eachothers throats because multiculturalism has finally caught up with us, everyone in the US thinks every single person MUST THINK EXACTLY LIKE THEM OR YOU SHOULD DIE
>all these fucking non-white kids and fat white women buying frozen enchiladas
>tfw I would do anything to go to Sweden or Norway, please let me immigrate I will do your shittiest jobs

>>53114207
>$65 000
wow my salary $300

>>53117492
American salary is yearly

>>53114015
>peace corps

Joining the army, go to meps soon.
Get fucked commie cunt.

>>53117535
Joining the military is pretty good option.

It's what I did.

>>53117535
have fun fighting for Israel and the defense lobby.

>>53114365
I sympathize with you op
if you become really comfortable with spanish, you could always work as a language teacher in your spare time via the internet to deal with the debt

>>53117535
I joined the Navy

The job itself is cool if you are an arbeit macht frei guy like me, but the people, the organization, and especially the leadership make your life a pure hell.

Go join a trucking fleet or something desu

>>53113979
Too many fucking liberals and strict gun laws in half the US

Other than that I love muh country

>>53117333
The average cost of living in the US includes small towns with nothing in them, vast swaths of plains, and inner city areas which may as well have negative rent.

I live in the 5th biggest city in Japan and pay $400 a month for rent, 30 minutes walking from the city center. If you aren't into finance or tech the US is shit.

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I'll vent all right. Come November.

>>53113979
Can I vent my frustrations of living next to America?

>>53118885
I hope he gets in. America needs more duress and more trouble before they realize how fucked up they are

>tfw immigrating to another Western country is impossible.

I don't want to be a backpacking hipster faggot making a new life in Belize or Cambodia or Ecuador or whatever else fucking retarded country that's popular to move to now. I want to move to Europe or Japan, damn it.

But not only is every other decent country expensive as fuck (except for Germany, Austria and Estonia), all the European countries seem to have this rule where they give preference to EU/EEA people above everyone else. And even worse, you need a sponsorship from a company to move to a lot of countries.

Like, I understand why that would be, they don't want their countries filling up with people without jobs and just leeching off welfare, and it's kind of hypocritical for me to raging against strict immigration rules when I myself am against Third World immigrants in America.

But if you're able to move to another country and get a job within the next few weeks after moving (the period of time most European countries give) with no problem, and are able to learn the language within a year or so of moving, you're basically a guy who has his shit together and you could probably succeed in America.

There doesn't seem to be much of a place for non-EU people who don't have their shit together and want to move to Europe and try to find a job and get a house because they heard the unemployment rate is lower.

>>53118732
you must live in a shoebox

>Self hating americans

never thought id see this lel