>>53113979 I am studying International Relations with an economics focus, and I want to serve in the Peace Corps after college, then either work for the state department (because that non-competitive eligibility) or go into international business. Idk what I want to do yet. I am going to be in a LOT of debt when I graduate. The fucking higher education system in America is so fucked. The way colleges squeeze every last penny out of students, then force students to pay ridiculous sums of money for DECADES after they leave college is so heinous and reprehensible it makes me sick. My GPA is 3.9. I am involved with clubs and organizations on campus, I truly care about education and think that it's the most important thing in any civilized society. Despite the fact that most people around me at school don't give a fuck or don't perform nearly as well as I do, I am still forced to take on the burden of tens of thousands of dollars just because I want an education.
It's very important to me to live in a walkable city when I graduate, because I don't want to have to pay a car bill, insurance, gas, and repairs to save money and maintain a healthy lifestyle. In the extremely few number of nice, walkable areas in American cities, rent prices are stupid high. The smallest studio apartment is going to cost you +$2000/month in the best walkable areas. There are very, VERY few affordable walkable neighborhoods in American cities. Unless you get lucky or are making a ton of money, you are forced to live in dreadful, dismal apartment buildings located somewhere where it isn't at all feasible to walk anywhere.
All of this is so fucked up. I'm literally moving down on the social ladder relative to my parents despite the fact that I've followed all the rules, I've done everything I need to up to this point to be a successful and productive member of society. (And they can't help me financially because my mom fucked our family's finances with credit card debt that amounts to paying an extra mortgage every month)
Welcome to America, where the best and brightest of the next generation is punished for wanting to live within walking distance of a grocery store and for obtaining an education. I'm not anti-American, far from it. But goddammit this country is so fucked up it makes me wanna fucking scream
>>53114015 Have you thought about living overseas with that degree? Doesn't that also include learning a language with it?
My current plan is to get some experience as a translator and eventually cash in on any languages with good markets. I'll be living in some proper shitholes a lot of the time but it should be interesting. I've heard freelancing is hard but it sounds like a fun job.
>tfw no european culture stretching back thousands of years >tfw no national pride >tfw no unique language >tfw national past time is smoking weed >tfw we exist to consume products and make others rich >tfw everyone is the same
>>53114159 Yeah I've considered it, I'll be fluent in Spanish if I work in the peace corps (knock on wood), so I could probably find a decent job in Latin America somewher. I just have a lot of pressure to stay in America, because of family and whatnot.
>>53114170 I always tell myseld that not everyone has access to the education that I do, and therefore their stupidity isn't their fault necessarily. But it still does get frustrating
>>53114222 >>tfw no european culture stretching back thousands of years We have hundreds of years of fisticuffs m8 >>tfw no national pride The fuck are you talking about? >>tfw no unique language American English is fairly unique >>tfw national past time is smoking weed It is, just not legally everywhere yet >>tfw we exist to consume products and make others rich Such is life as the first world proletariat masses >>tfw everyone is the same America isn't a melting pot. It's a salad bowl
>I was curious about moving to the Pacific Northwest but it turns out everyone and their mother is going there. >I despise areas that are just strip malls with fucked up trees surrounding them. Living next to New Jersey means they're all over the place. >Our political scene is so binary and most people are ok with being extremely entrenched on one side or another. >I am short >Indians are moving into my neighborhood and cutting all the trees down in their yards. Seriously what the FUCK >I pick up trash off the ground, nobody else does this >colt stopped making revolvers >Many Americans are really wasteful. We need to pick up some eco-friendly habits... even if it's not using plastic bags >I am legitimately afraid of being sued by my fellow Americans >American women are, on average, not as friendly as their Euro counterparts >I hate the materialism here... above ALL else
>asian american >american culture does not allow for people to perceive asians as masculine. >asian women dating white men >universities practice negative affirmative action, making it harder to get accepted. >not represented in the media at all; except as a token, joke character, or racist steriotype.
>>53114585 Yes and no. My daily living is pretty expensive but I have good public transport here and live in a walkable area, my education is not very expensive, medical is cheap and I live in a bad area for Israel to save a bit of money but if I lived in an area this cheap in America I would probably be shot or raped but here the worst ghettos are safer then middle class us neighborhood. So depending how you live America can be more difficult.
>>53114585 Go anywhere else in the western world and you can live in a reasonably priced neighborhood where you can actually walk places and interact with your neighbors, see >>53114746
>>53114735 Latin America, I don't really have a preference as to which country. Most positions are offered in Colombia, Peru, and Mexico. Peace Corps is definitely worth looking into, the benefits of serving are ridiculous
>>53114624 continued: >Indian families have like 20 kids each >Most American women just throw on yoga pants and a hoodie now. I find practically ANY other clothing style attractive now >I don't like alcohol but it feels central to social interactions (in college at least) >Mixed race. Not accepted by whites or asians. Would stick with "my kind" buy Eurasian qts are super rare >I don't see owls ANYWHERE and they're my favorite animal >I find half-white half-jewish girls unbelievably beautiful, but they're hard to find >Trump is a walking meme and Hilary is an obsolete democrat simulator
>>53114845 Neat. I've thought about serving since reading all the testimonials and how it supposedly changes your perspective for life. You're also immune to boredom after spending 2 years with very little to do in your free time. Good luck
>>53114796 What is there to refute? You made no points at all, your language and demeanor just came across as the typical type of cookie cutter person who thinks socialism will save him of all his troubles, it isn't hard to discern
>>53114015 >It's very important to me to live in a walkable city when I graduate, because I don't want to have to pay a car bill, insurance, gas, and repairs to save money and maintain a healthy lifestyle. In the extremely few number of nice, walkable areas in American cities, rent prices are stupid high. The smallest studio apartment is going to cost you +$2000/month in the best walkable areas.
Buy a used car and learn to do repairs yourself. That's what I do, although it is an occasional pain in the ass.
>>53114902 It irritates the fuck out of me how widespread binge drinking is. Like, I love casual drinking and I think it's a must-have at parties, but at every party people drink way to much and get completely shitty to the point where having any meaningful interaction with them whatsoever is impossible. No one knows when enough is enough.
Maybe it's like that in other countries too, idk
>>53114975 I am aware. The difference is in America, there are no other options if you want to live in a walkable neighborhood. Perhaps I should have clarified that because nobody seems to be understanding my point
>>53115080 Living in a large counttry doens't mean you have to design sprawling cities, nor does it mean the education and health care systems can't be structured differently
>>53115111 I have done my research. There are very, very few options for walkable neighborhoods. I literally explore google earth, research American urban centers, and look at real estate prices for fun.
However you seem to know more information than I do. Please feel free to share what you know that might allow me to reevaluate my opinions
>>53115080 Size of America has nothing to do with anything discussed in this thread. Russia is huge and still has public transport and cheaper education despite being shitty in most other ways. Medical in the U.S. Is crazy too. I had insurance and still paid a lot for a broken hand. Part of why I moved back to Israel is too many Americans think their system is just fine and make all these dumb excuses for it but if you're on your own and start with very little money to begin with in America you are pretty fucked and struggle worse then most the western world.
>>53115205 Yeah, same for mine. The top AP classes were filled with borderline geniuses who all went to great Tech schools (some ivy league) while there was an entire half of the school that were in pretty much children's classes. It's a pretty good analogy for the country as a whole.
>>53115238 My brother just started his associate's in accounting at a community college to save money before transferring. His intro accounting math class is basically simple arithmetic, not even algebra.
>>53115253 I'm only half Jewish and none religious at all, I deal with none Jews on a daily basis but I'm pretty sure it's hard to get in Israel as a none Jew. Most regular people have a decent attitude towards none Jews here other then Muslims. The negative here is cost of living is very high and salaries are very low but with that said I'm poor but always have food, live close to the beach, and can still enjoy life without spending a lot so depending on what's important to you it could be great here or shit here.
>>53115374 >The negative here is cost of living is very high and salaries are very low but with that said I'm poor but always have food, live close to the beach, and can still enjoy life without spending a lot so depending on what's important to you it could be great here or shit here. How does that add up? With the price of real estate, are you forced to live in unclean or small spaces? Does social welfare cover your cost of living?
>>53115315 I should qualify this post by saying that there's literally nothing wrong with community college or state schools for an undergraduate education. There's no point in going to an expensive research university if you're going to be learning from year-2 text book. That said, my brother probably should have opted to skip his intro courses. CC's usually overlap with high school curricula because a lot of people who go to CC don't care to learn anything in high school.
Our politics are really fucking awful, and even worse is how most people think politically. 90% of Americans are dissatisfied with our government yet all they do is complain about how dumb the other side is. There's a reason clickbait was invented on American social media; we all love getting mad at what other people do rather than say anything constructive (kind of like what I'm doing now).
But honestly, I don't think things are all that bad here. Yeah, education is expensive up front but if you get a smart degree at a state college you can pay it off in no time. The costs are only increasing because there are tons of retards who "follow their dreams" and spend $50k a year on worthless degrees at private colleges, increasing demand and further driving up prices.
I could probably nitpick most other complaints about us like too. We've got over 300 million fucking people and I'm sure if you randomly took that many Euros you'd find a quality of life at a similar level.
>>53115829 OP unfortunately invested heavily in a bad decision. >I am studying International Relations with an economics focus, and I want to serve in the Peace Corps after college, then either work for the state department (because that non-competitive eligibility) or go into international business. He sounds very romantic but not too business savvy, ironically.
>get my master's degree with no debt >nobody wants to hire me because I have no substantial experience outside of a few summer internships >live with my parents in the suburbs where there are no jobs for people my age that aren't in retail >suburbs are utterly soulless and absolutely require a car to get anywhere >hate driving >got flipped off by a redneck in a pickup truck with a Trump bumper-sticker the other day
>>53114621 This so much I am graduating with 2 years of internship experience and extensive personal experience. The internship pays $25 and hour for 25 hours a week. My partner at the internship just graduated and accepted a $76000 position before his graduation date. I know other people who didnt intern and didnt do personal projects and are working in manual labor.
You also have to accept that many fields, "open-ended" degrees like humanities and languages especially, have way more people with degrees than open jobs, and will not pay very well.
>>53115538 I'm not on welfare but the Israeli government did give me something like 5 months of unemployment when I first moved here but the process to get it was a pain in the ass and I almost ran out of money before getting it but luckily everything worked out. I left off that my grandparents left me a condo here that was about 70% paid off so my payments on housing are tiny. The food adds up a lot, $100 barely buys 5 days worth of you try. Electronics are very expensive too. My condo isn't small or dirty but my street is pretty dirty because Africans live around here but basically why I moved is my old shit condo is getting torn down and since this one is almost paid off now I get a great deal on a brand new one even closer to the beach. So I decided to go to uni here mainly because 1) it's cheap 2) In around a year I'll be living in a brand new condo for the same price 3) I can survive without a car After I graduate we'll see if I stay but with that new condo I pretty much am set and will most likely stay.
>>53115986 >$50k a year on worthless degrees at private colleges Reminder that we have more graduates in food service than engineers, physicists, chemists and mathematicians combined. http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2012/04/half_of_recent_college_grads_u.html >Broken down by occupation, young college graduates were heavily represented in jobs that require a high school diploma or less. >In the last year, they were more likely to be employed as waiters, waitresses, bartenders and food-service helpers than as engineers, physicists, chemists and mathematicians combined (100,000 versus 90,000). There were more working in office-related jobs such as receptionist or payroll clerk than in all computer professional jobs (163,000 versus 100,000). More also were employed as cashiers, retail clerks and customer representatives than engineers (125,000 versus 80,000).
>>53115986 >Our politics are really fucking awful, and even worse is how most people think politically. 90% of Americans are dissatisfied with our government yet all they do is complain about how dumb the other side is.
Yeah, the polarization in American politics is pretty awful right now. It's either one extreme or the other.
Chicago is a really underrated city and not really thought of by young people. Relatively cheap rents (for a city its size) and we have a world class downtown and cultural attractive along with the second best rail network and 1st best bus system in the country. BTW Chicago is the #1 most walkable city in the country and 3rd best for biking (although I'm sure we will hit #1 soon due to CDOT installing over 100 miles of protected bike lanes in the next coming years.) Rent here in the non-murder areas are around 1200-1800 month (depending on the location of the neighborhood).
>>53116114 so basically, there is an over-saturation of people with degrees?? you can't artificially force better jobs, but if this is the case, sanders is probably right that it's time to evaluate income inequality. service jobs often have incomes that make it very hard to support a family, or sometime even to support one's self without roommates. but in reality, the system produces enough wealth to afford better wages for people in this positions. it's kind of fucked up that the per capita GDP (in PPP) has kept growing since the 70's while the minimum wage has decreased significantly in purchasing power.
>>53115166 You can get a 2besroom 20minutes walk from dowtown Chicago for under $1500 a month, in a neighborhood with supermarkets, pharmacies, school, a hospital, restaurants, bars, and drug dealers all within a 10 minute walk. If you dont mind living in a poor area you can find the same place for $600 another ten minutes by foot from downtown. Busses every 8 minutes cut the commute to downtown to 10 minutes. And that's the third largest city in the country.
>>53116080 You finally left Houston, i see. When do you have to report for service?
>>53116312 >you can find the same place for $600 another ten minutes by foot from downtown What are the chances of getting mugged by some nig?
>>53116410 >but at least they pay your medical and educational costs. If you join the national guard(or air national guard) most states waive tuition at public universities, while the federal government pays up to $4500 per year for your mandatory costs and you're still most likely eligible for a pell grant, which should cover almost all school related costs(including room and board). You also have access to fairly low cost health insurance.
>>53116275 >so basically, there is an over-saturation of people with degrees?? Yeah, intro microecon. Saturation of supply in the market for wages and labor lowers the equilibrium price. They're working in food service because there aren't enough positions in their native studies (psychology or fine-arts or whatever), or if there were positions available, they would actually be worth less than the wages McDonalds or Subway is paying them. >you can't artificially force better jobs, but if this is the case, sanders is probably right that it's time to evaluate income inequality. I guess. Social welfare should be a consideration. But this kind of tension is also natural to the labor market. There are jobs available or in demand, but those jobs are trade jobs or specialized technical professions. The workforce will eventually adjust to the disincentive of expensive, useless degrees.
>>53116054 There's a lot of variation in fields related to language now, and a lot of potential. It's the people who learn French or Spanish and are surprised they can't find work out of college that bring the success rate down.
>>53116913 >If you join the national guard(or air national guard) most states waive tuition at public universities, while the federal government pays up to $4500 per year for your mandatory costs and you're still most likely eligible for a pell grant, which should cover almost all school related costs(including room and board). You also have access to fairly low cost health insurance. Sounds like a sweet deal. I thought about joining the marines in a technical capacity, but reneged at the last second.
>>53117333 http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_countries_result.jsp?country1=France&country2=United+States >Rent Prices in United States are 45.45% higher than in France >Groceries Prices in United States are 8.09% higher than in France http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_countries_result.jsp?country1=United+States&country2=Germany >Consumer Prices in Germany are 10.83% lower than in United States >Consumer Prices Including Rent in Germany are 19.31% lower than in United States >Rent Prices in Germany are 37.05% lower than in United States >Restaurant Prices in Germany are 10.35% lower than in United States >Groceries Prices in Germany are 29.40% lower than in United States >Local Purchasing Power in Germany is 5.06% higher than in United States These don't even include the price of healthcare and our third world wages.
>can't afford a house >renting is more expensive in the long run >education costs tens of thousands >even after that you are likely to just get a 30-40k salary >drive 40 minutes to get to work >hope I never have a medical condition because I'd be fucked financially >can't ever call in sick to work so I have to eat garlic cloves and wash my hands every 2 seconds, keep out of human contact >everyone is at eachothers throats because multiculturalism has finally caught up with us, everyone in the US thinks every single person MUST THINK EXACTLY LIKE THEM OR YOU SHOULD DIE >all these fucking non-white kids and fat white women buying frozen enchiladas >tfw I would do anything to go to Sweden or Norway, please let me immigrate I will do your shittiest jobs
>tfw immigrating to another Western country is impossible.
I don't want to be a backpacking hipster faggot making a new life in Belize or Cambodia or Ecuador or whatever else fucking retarded country that's popular to move to now. I want to move to Europe or Japan, damn it.
But not only is every other decent country expensive as fuck (except for Germany, Austria and Estonia), all the European countries seem to have this rule where they give preference to EU/EEA people above everyone else. And even worse, you need a sponsorship from a company to move to a lot of countries.
Like, I understand why that would be, they don't want their countries filling up with people without jobs and just leeching off welfare, and it's kind of hypocritical for me to raging against strict immigration rules when I myself am against Third World immigrants in America.
But if you're able to move to another country and get a job within the next few weeks after moving (the period of time most European countries give) with no problem, and are able to learn the language within a year or so of moving, you're basically a guy who has his shit together and you could probably succeed in America.
There doesn't seem to be much of a place for non-EU people who don't have their shit together and want to move to Europe and try to find a job and get a house because they heard the unemployment rate is lower.
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