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What is non American /int/'s take on Bernie Sanders? Bracing

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What is non American /int/'s take on Bernie Sanders?

Bracing for /pol/ with VPNs but we'll see how this thread goes.
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Based Bernie will win btw
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>>53043083
Iirc he is in favour of a single-payer health insurance? That's bretty good I think. Don't like it that he is flirting with the sjw crowd.
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>>53043083
>>53043194
heh
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>>53043194
Posting number of IPs so people know you're not me the OP.

I do hope he wins though, I am voting for him.
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>>53043083

I'm pro-Trump but I recognise that (minus the backlash) Bernie would probably be the best choice for all Americans, if you count things numerically.

But no one gives a shit if thousands of years ago, Rome had income equality in its last days.

Bernie doesn't have the balls of Hilary or Trump to get the nomination, but the anti-Hildog fall out when he fails will be interesting to see.
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>>53043257
Yeah he is, also making state/community colleges free which is nice.
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sry guys unless something really bad happens he can't win
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>>53043351
Honestly even though I do think he'll win the nomination I feel it's just gonna be rigged and they'll say Hillary won.
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>>53043083
He is the best fucking candidate imo
Pity, he has no chance ;_;

Hillary is the lesser evil
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He looks like a SJW beta cuck, I wouldn't vote him desu, you need a leader that will make America great again
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I don't have a problem with Socialism,but Bernie Sanders is too liberal and weak. He loves to talk about how great Denmark is,but Denmark also have a centre-right government. Sweden on the other hand has a far left liberal government and Sweden is going down the shitter. America could become another Sweden with Sanders at the wheel.
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>>53043083
What does Bernie Sanders stand for, politically?
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>>53043083
Dirty commie. Trump 2016.
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>>53043083
I hope he wins, but if he does USA will change forever. I am afraid it will be the downfall of the "world police USA" we are used to.
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>>53043523
Social democracy.
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I can't say for sure for I haven't researched the topic thoroughly but Bernie seems like the best candidate, he seem like a guy who wants to catch up with the rest of the world on most of the things people mock america for, such as health care. But I don't believe he has any chance of winning, americans are too afraid of anything remotely close to social democracy.
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>>53043497
Anything is better than a social darwinist, I'd rather have an anarchy even so at the very least we could safely kill these corrupt old fucks at least.
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>>53043371
DUDE FREE SHIT LMAO
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>>53043597
We have social democrats running our country, just look how well it's going.
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>>53043597
I suppose people are flipping their shit over his ideas?
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It's fucking america we are talking about. Bernie Sanders goes against everything american and what makes you guys stand out and be great. Socialism doesn't belong in america and will make you weak.
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>>53043523
Pretty much turning the USA into a more functional version of the EU politically.
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>>53043523
free shit for everyone, and cuckoldry
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WE WANT TRUMP
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He looks like a socialist, but rather him than strong wymyn Hillary for sure.
Still hoping for Trump.
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>>53043567
Nah Bernie is a humanitarian, he'd help those who need help but wouldn't be a retard like the current world police model.
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Based Bernie is the only real choice 2bh.

The only arguments against him literal memes.

>le essjaydubya cuckold
>he is communist kurwa my grandpa waited 3 hours in breadlines *toilet cleaning intensifies*
>fucken kids these days and their free shit, brb buying gold
>he is going to crash economy t. wall street
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>>53043720
>>53043732
Does he promote the US being the world police, still?
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>>53043774
>He has the opportunity to make America great again
>He chooses to become Sweden
America, what are you doing?
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>>53043774

>facts are memes

The sanders voter base ladies and gentlemen, so long as we give all of our money to Saudi Arabia and more affirmative action and free shit dor greedy liberal college students theyre happy.
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>>53043627
>americans are too afraid of anything remotely close to social democracy.
Not really, he's drawing tons of attention despite the media trying their best to ignore him.

I dunno why corporations are so afraid of paying taxes.

OH I MADE 70 BILLION DOLLARS THIS YEAR, I REALLY DON'T WANNA GIVE EVEN A TAD OF IT UP TO IMPROVE THE COUNTRY AND LIVES OF MY COUNTRYMEN
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>>53043774
Well, if you want to spend your hard earned money to pay for women's studies degrees, go ahead.

Don't force the others to do it.
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>>53043855
Go back to bed, grandpa.
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>>53043801
He's pro assisting other countries that want help and leaving when they tell him to leave.

So sorta.
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>>53043627
Social democracy is doing great in Brazil, isn't it?
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>>53043881

Nice rebbutal you brain dead fuckwad.

>MUH FREE STUFF IS GONNA COME OUT IF THIN AIR BERNIE SAYS SO
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>>53043083

donald trump and ben carson (but mostly donald turmp) have sucked away any coverage of other candidates (republican or democrat) in the british press. sometimes there's a bit about hillary.

so i know fuck all about him, nor do i care. i want trump to get elected for the LOLs and the LELs and the KEKs.
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>>53043876
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>>53043908
>leaving when they tell him to leave
So if Assad asks Bernie to leave, he will?
So if Merkel asks Bernie to leave, he will?
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>>53043923
we couldn't be further from social democracy bro

are you aware of our politics at all or just shouting memes?
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>>53043351
>>53043497
>>53043525
>>53043736
>>53043754
You guys are only ironically supporting Trump right? You can't possibly think he could be a good leader.
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>>53043964

Yes because he's a cuck, but college students are all about cuckolding so yes the obvious candidate.
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>>53043934
>arguing literal memes
>gets hilariously buttflustered when he gets memes in response
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>>53043083
Hippie that would destroy America as you know it.
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>>53043908
He sounds alright, though I gotta admit I literally have no idea about his ideas otherwise.

He will never stand a chance against Clinton or Trump though, right?
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>>53043293
Those reddit pieces of shit want to start an online smear campaign
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He's a shit candidate who apparently thinks taxing the rich will fix everybody's problem even though it won't because they'll just move away from america and put their money elsewhere.
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I have the same problem with Sanders as I do with Trump, I don't trust his competency to fulfill the duties of office. the primary duty of the presidency is to deal with foreign policy, not domestic, and were America embroiled in a hypothetical crisis with say ISIS or Russia, I wouldn't trust either to make the correct decisions to avert disaster. Sanders would be too weak and Trump too stupid. Sanders and his socialist bullshit is better suited for the legislative, rather than the executive, branch of government. plus he's old as fuck.
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>>53043990

The same could be said to you kike shill, how about you hop on back to reddit with the rest of your friends.
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>>53044015
>destroy America as you know it

Good riddance, 2bh.
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>>53043934
>MUH FREE STUFF IS GONNA COME OUT IF THIN AIR BERNIE SAYS SO
Most of Europe has many social policies like free healthcare and education and function just fine with it coming out of "thin air" aka taxes

>blah blah punish rich blah blah
The rich wouldn't be rich if not for the government creating order, time to pay their due.
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ah yes

free college for all the kids to enroll in women's studies, black history and liberal arts bullshit

safe spaces included

i'd take tax increases if these schools cut out all bullshit like that and stricter enrollment
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>>53043523
destruction of America
he's basically a Canadian spy
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>>53044008

Is everything you disagree with a meme?

I'm sure you're the same fucking idiot who said the nazis were left wing, how many times do I need to BTFO you.
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>>53044065
M E M E S
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>>53043979
Kek, I am a diasporafag and know exactly what I'm talking about.

>Free college
>Free healthcare
>Lots of welfare programs
>A fucking "vale cultura"
>Labour laws strict af

If that's not social democracy I don't know what it is.
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>>53044059
>Most of Europe...
The US isn't Europe. Why don't people understand this?
>The Rich need to pay their due!
yes, every rich person isn't nothing more than a product of government money. There's no way any of them worked hard and earned their money from the ground up. Why do you feel entitled to other people's money?
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>kike
>socialist
>old as fuck
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>>53044059

Most european countries don't hage a population of 350 million people dumbass, nor as many niggers.

Are you fucking retarded?

don't answer that you're voting sanders of course you are.
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>>53044059

Most of europe doesnt have to support 300 million people, 1/5th of which lives of foodstamps.
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>>53043861
You just answered your own question.

Rich people who like making money don't want to give up more of it to taxes.
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>>53044095
No, just actual memes like

>MUH COLLEGE KIDS MUH """FREE""" SHIT

>>53044155
>le dank racism meme
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>>53043960
Nice rebuttal faggot
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>>53044166

NICE MEMES DUDE
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>>53044040
>they'll just move away from america and put their money elsewhere.
Make that illegal, threaten them with prison, hunt them down, etc
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>>53044203
Dipshit memes like "muh wymyn's studies fuckin libfags" don't deserve a rebuttal.
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he's kind, rational and so cute
i love him
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>>53043861
>Corporations don't pay taxes meme
Just stop.
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>>53044201

>meme
>implying you arent voting dir him because he said hed give you free shit

Redditards sure dint try to hide the fact that they're from reddit.
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>>53044059
The US isn't Europe.

Stuff that works in smaller countries like France, Germany or Denmark won't necessarily work in a bigger and more diverse country like the US.
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he's leftist ron paul in the sense that he's a favorite on the internet, no where else
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>>53043083
He doesn't understand the nordic model at all, but he keeps saying that the USA needs to look more like it.

Is he just senile??
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>>53044155
This is actually one of the bigger prolems of the mass immigration to Europe. Our healthcare and other policies can't handle all the uneducated poor folk that need the welfare.
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>>53044242
Buy why should we pay for useless degrees?
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>mfw browsing this thread and realizing that american conservatism is literally an aggregation of memes
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>>53044286

OH LOOK MORE CONSERVATIVE FUCKTARD MEMES

LOOK HERE YOU FASCIST BIGOT I NEED TO GO TI COLLEGE AND THE ONLY WAY THAT IS HAPPENING IS UNDER SANDERS OKAY?

FUCK OFF.
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>>53044267
>Le tax evasion by putting money in another country meme
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>>53043083
He's an amazing man who needs to be our president, but he probably won't.
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>>53043083
I have no idea who is this man and what's his political platform.
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>>53044298
he's 74, so yea probably
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>>53044325
Because you'll also be paying for useful degrees, and an educated populace is a good thing for everyone except the GOP.
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>>53044210
>Im going to post dumb, misdirecting opinions in the hopes his statement will be ignored and disregarded so as to avoid the fact that I cannot respond in kind with an eloquently devised rebuttal to his debate.

Try harder shill.
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>>53044329

you call anything you disagree with a meme, you said the Nazis were left wing.

don't think I'd forget you so easily FAGGOT.
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>>53044329
Liberalism is just as bad for the most part.

American Politics are just trash, I hope Trump is elected so we collapse and some superior Euro country takes me as a refugee.
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>>53044329
Kek, the only argument you have is

>MUH CONSERVATIVE MAYMAYS
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>>53044298

american politicians are just servernts of jew companies
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>>53044358

Back to reddit!
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>>53044329
meanwhile american leftism is literally an aggregation of jealousy, faggotry, idiotism and treason
oh wait, leftism is like that everywhere in the world, right.
I take my memes all day
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>>53044388
But the Nazis (National Socialists) were Left Wing.
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>they have to resort to memes because there is literally nothing wrong with Bernie
Why are conservashits so awful /int/?
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>>53044398
And the only argument conservatives have RICH PEOPEL DINDU NUFFIN WRONG and FUCKING NIGGERS AND MEXICANS RUININ MUH COUNTRY

It's meme vs meme
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>>53044235

Nice going there mr stalin, I thought America was the land of the free, not post-soviet commie land.
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>>53044378
you can keep liberal arts but they won't be paid for, that comes out of your own pocket
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>>53043351
If Romans didn't have such fuckhuge income inequality the Republic had probably not fallen 2bh fäm.
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>>53044128
Our social measures are far from being any problem.

Our taxes are ridiculously distributed, the regulation on small business is too tight while the big guys has small taxes and regulation. Our politicians are the most expensive of the world if you count all the benefits and we are top 2 of the world in tax evasion.

With all that, blaming the small social measures like our ridiculously small welfare (less than U$20) is quite shallow. They are the least you would expect with the huge taxes that we pay.
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>>53044395

>superior European country

Why are americcans on /int/ so pathetic?
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>>53044388
I've never said the Nazis were left wing.

You could maybe argue that they were centrist (muh third way), but imo that was largely window-dressing, especially after the Rohm purge.
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>>53043083
An old commie jew. Really not what America needs.
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>>53043351
This is the best post in this thread tbqh
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>>53044453

you're pretty pathetic.
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>>53043083
I don't see any burger voting for him honestly he has none of what America loves:

He isn't a bible thumper.
He isn't a gun advocate.
He isn't fat.
He doesn't have a BBC.
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>>53044398
The only argument you have are the actual memes themselves.

Please refer to the handy guide here >>53043774
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>>53044492
>Want a government that exists to take care of it's people, gives everyone chances to move up the ladder regardless of birth and make sure it's impossible to die to starvation/elements
>pathetic
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Thus board truly is a hive of redditor liberal arts majors.
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>>53044453

What would you have done if you were part of Bernie's entourage as he was assailed by BLM protesters?
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>>53044478
I'm not blaming them.

I'm just saying that most of them don't work.
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He is completely ignorant of sound economics and is trying to use the whole "it's us vs. them" meme to validate his crank ideas. I mean he's a leftist for crying out loud. Of course he would destroy the US economy.
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>>53044388
But they were. National. Socialism. It was only because the war and post-war governments were leftie as fuck that allowed the far-right meme take root.
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>>53043083

He is a filthy anti White kike rat and sould be deported to the nearest oven ASAP
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I was a Ron Paul fan in the last few elections, now I'm a fan of Bernie

Basically anyone who tries to talk about actual political and economic things and sticks to their principles, instead of shameless richfags just trying to dazzle everyone with buzzwords
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>>53044549
>implying burgers are just pic related
Remember, they're also the birthplace of BLM and tumblr.
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>>53044458
The point we're trying to make is that we'd rather live in a civilized, morally upright and homogeneous society rather than one in which incompetent morons rule what's left of a once prosperous country in which you were free to succeed or fail in life through your own merits and value.
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>>53044581
Exactly what they did IRL.

Subsequently, everyone criticized BLM for being obnoxious then promptly forgot about it.

It only gets brought up on here because it's material for dank cuck memes, and it's pretty much the only thing rightards have on him.
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>>53044561

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You can do all of this in america you fucking cuck, why dont you g protest at a black lives matter rally so I can watch you get shot by police on live TV?
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>>53044559
Thanks for proving my point
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>>53044468
>Romans give handouts to everyone, panem et circenses etc.
>hurr durr muh income inequality, pls make everyone equal coz we all are equal
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>>53044626
>Implying Bernie isn't all about dazzling with buzzwords
>Implying he has any understanding of economics
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>>53044286
>Germany
>small

Most of your shit is organized on state level anyway, and none of your states has even close to Germany's population.

Also I fucking swear you are one of those faggots who post about immigrants in Europe and yet now you claim that yurop cunts are actually homogenous.
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>>53043293
Look what I found.
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>>53044667
You have no point, only memes.

Talk to me when you have something besides "muh whippersnappers and their free shit"
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>>53044622
What the fuck? Is this for real?
America truly is doomed.
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>>53044626
As an actual libertarian, you disgust me.
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>>53044580
and /pol/ is a hive of sub 80 IQ retards luckily born into a decent financial situation..

They're no better
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>>53044663
Or he could have not been a cuck to begin with and have his security remove them, and tell them to fuck off.
>But it would have made it look like he didn't care about their cause!
Better that than looking like a weak faggot in front of a nation.
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come on reddit it's painfully obvious.

if you want to shill on /int/, at least try to make it look like you're a regular.

this is just insulting.
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>>53044059

Most of Europe is fundamentally different from the US though, and Social Democracy was tailored to these differences.


>The US has way too much inequality to make it work, American middle class is relatively tiny, shrinking and poorer and they have to bear the brunt of the taxes
>Most European states have pitiful military expenses which are impossible for the US to attain without disrupting itself
>American upper class is far too influential and wealthy to pay anything, they'll just have the dwindling middle class pay for it.
>American partisan two-party politics is woefully ill-suited to implementing welfare policies well, hence why things like Medicaid are bloated and inefficient compared to European ones
>American millenials already pursue absolute bullshit degrees and this trend will only increase if you make it free

And, ultimately, social democracy isn't even working that well in Europe. It's far too socially and economically fragile for even the societies it was specifically devised for.

Bernie is the suicidal choice, Trump is the future.
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>>53043194
i'd much, much rather have him win over shillary. she would star another world war
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>>53044622
What a cuck.
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>>53044749
Why? Things worked out fine.
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>>53044731

Kill yourself udnerage subhuman apoitical kike shill nigger
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>>53044760
Berniefags BTFO

Based Dutchman
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>>53044731

Typical Bernie mentality.

>IF U DONT WANT MY JUSTIN TRUDEU CLONE RUNNING THE SOLE SUPERPOWER U CAME FROM /pol/!!!!!!
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>>53044663
>the only thing rightards have on him.

Oh but the leftards have their own problementations ;^)
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>>53044760
Based Colgate
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>>53044693
Small compared to the US.
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>>53044760
Perfect post 10/10.
Also fucking saved.
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>>53044826
This is even older than the BLM incident.

Spoiler: Nobody cared about it either.
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>>53044789
>looked like the weak old man he is
>in front of the nation and the world
>he wants to lead an entire nation
>But can't tell them to fuck off when they strong arm him off his own stage
>THINGS WORKED OUT FINE GUISE!
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>>53044626
So you don't actually hold any political opinions
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>>53044622

And what is wrong with this...?
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>>53043083
filthy disgusting commie with no chance of winning
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>>53044665
>Europe
>I'm making min wage this sucks
>Go to school, free or even get paid to go
>Come out with a more valuable career, no debt, contribute more to society, pay back my tution in increased taxes from a higher wage

>Murica
>I'm making min wage this sucks
>You're under 25 and thus tied to your parents income they make too much we can't help sorry
>You're 25 now, here's a loan that will take you 30 years to pay off
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Why is this place so infested with /pol/tards?
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>>53044671
Handouts were only necessary because a very small elite had usurped literally all the land and imported slaves to work the fields, which is very reminiscent of the current situation in America(a very small few owning almost everything and importing Mexicans to do what few jobs remain).

In the beginning when all land was distributed amongst free farmers the Republic was stable as fuck.

It got so far that handouts were necessary because otherwise the mob quite literally tore the rich apart. And this was taken advantage of by populist fucks like Julius Caesar, Clodius and similar scum.

Forced equality is shit. Doesn't mean that equality is shit.
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>>53043083
American take. He doesn't understand basic economics and when it comes to foreign affairs he's so incompetent it stops being funny and starts being scary
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>>53044716
>Supports THE meme candidate
>Dislikes memes
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>>53044859
I know right. What a fucking sheep.
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>>53043371
>free
No such thing.
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>>53044857
I don't know anyone IRL who thought he looked weak. Most people focused more on how obnoxious the protesters were, and criticized them.
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>>53044864
You already apologized for slavery.
Over 9000 times.
They can't use that forever.
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Rand is the best candidate by far. While he is against the government overreach, unlike Bernie he
>1. Means it because his ideas don't require immense amounts if centralization
>2. Is not a cuck but also not dumb
>3. Wants everything to be more simple
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>>53044842
Yes, but correct me if I'm wrong, isn't almost everything except for the military and shit like FBI and CIA organized on state level instead of federal level? So what's the problem?
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>>53044760
>Trump is the future

More like the slightly lesser evil
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>>53043257
>>53043083


This

Americans need to detach social and fiscal politics.

I bet many socially conservative Americans are voting D because they're not millionaires.

Instead of catering to a small group of college/internet libertarian cucks, the Republicans should cater to this large group of social conservatives who are too poor for le libertarian internet meme.
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>>53044754
OP here, home board is /g/ and I've only been to reddit about 3 times when people linked me shit from there.

The UI on that site is pure eye cancer
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>>53044888

go fag, I hope you enjoy getting beheaded, we won't miss you.
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>>53044906
>Supports THE meme candidate

>implying i support DUDE WALL LMAO
>mfw
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>>53043681
>>53043732
>>53044703
This.
Only objectivism goyim, all power to the jews
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He'll win whether the right wants it or not, it'll be a benefit to the vast majority of americans, but Americans are classcucked harder than any other people on earth, the fact that the left has fallen for the intersectionality meme only makes it harder to get people like 4channers into left wing politics. Unless you're a millionaire you'll be better off under Sanders
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>>53043083
he's a giant cuck who panders to spoiled white hipster kids and minorities. he is shit.
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>>53044856

This whole nobody caring thing seems to be a theme with our Mr Bernz

But honestly, it would be a HUUUUGE upset if Bernie takes the nomination from Hillary. That would be amazing to see. It would also guarantee a Trump presidency but as pre-show entertainment a BErnie nomination would be glorious.
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>>53043083

This guy could be a good head of labor or something else that is a 100% domestic-related job, but this guy's foreign poicy is so shaky, I wouldn't even trust him with stamping passports at the air port
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>>53044938
>Muslims can't be gun owners
Checkmate.
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>>53043523
free chinmen for everyone
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>>53044938
>here is your gunowner book, it says that you ought to kill everyone that isn't one of us, if you don't comply then you have to give it back, thanks
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>>53044888
>Murica
>I'm making min wage this sucks
>I lack any motivation to do beetter or be independent so I wont make sacrifices like get a roommate or live in a shitty area for a bit
>I want more money but I refuse to try and apply fro higher paying jobs or work in industries like manufacturing that pay well and don't have lots of experience requirements
>I'm going to cry and complain about how unfair life is, even though I'm a pampered child who has never really worked
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>>53043083
literally who: the person
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He's a commie desu
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>>53044929

Nah I think youre just a /pol/yard, so why don't you and your gang of white supremacist thugs do us all a favor and go back there?

k?

:)
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>trump is pro-israel
>his daughter got cucked into judaism and he is proud of it

is there no strong anti-jewish candidate against big capital?
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>>53044947
This is flat out wrong.
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>>53044938

you anti-white mudslime cucks will all hang on the day of the rope
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>>53044973
>da jooos
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Reminder that cringy subhuman redditcuck shills have been caught multiple times shilling for their kike SJW anti White candidate all over 4chan
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>>53044973
>implying Trump isn't the biggest fucking kike lover out of all the candidates
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>>53044703
You goddamn retard. Obviously nothing is free.

What the fuck is this criticism? Sanders just wants to borrow ideas from the EU. As it stands you all have lower ginis and higher hdis.
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>>53044938
>The vast majority of USA was built by whites who owned guns and their ideas of liberty.
>No, fuck you, this is my country now and I take away your right because my feelings are hurt.

>The vast majority of muslim countries are built by muslims and no white american is forcing any muslims to leave those countries.
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>>53044947
>the Republicans should cater to this large group of social conservatives who are too poor for le libertarian internet meme

They do, lad.
What do you think the Christfaggotry and racism is all about?
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>>53044897
Honestly if this income gap shit gets any worse you're right in that there will be a revolution.

But the rich seem to think the poor are placated enough, but when people start going hungry no amount of brain washing is gonna stop revolution.
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>>53044947
The current democratic party is slightly right authoritarian.
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>>53045088
If Israel falls, where do you think the kikes go?
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>>53045104
Democrats are attacking Sanders for being too lenient on gun control, 2bh.
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>>53044943
Not OP but yes to a degree. However the feds use coercion to dictate the states. A prime example is drinking age. The drinking age used to be 16 in most states until in the 70s when the government said "if you don't raise your drinking age we'll stop giving you money for infrastructure"
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>>53044802
That's obviously some edgy troll lolbertarian kid who goes on here
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>>53045056

How so?
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>>53045042

You may want to look into the Muslim world.
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idk why Americans think free college's are such a big deal in some European countries it's working just fine, in the Netherlands the government pays the majority of your college too
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>Berniefags

>>>/reddit/
>>>/tumblr/
>>>/kikebook/
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>>53044725
Yeah, I'm not a libertarian so that is fine. I'm just saying I appreciate these stubborn old guys who actually try to talk about real things, whether they are right or wrong, rather than >muh build a wall and >muh war on terror

Ron Paul always amused me when he would go on Fox and start talking about the origins of US involvement in the middle east in the 50's and the shah of Iran. They would shut him up real quick. I get a similar feeling from Bernie when he talks about campaign financing and the Koch brothers. Maybe I'm just being fooled by memes too, but at least these are danker.
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>>53045020
>higher paying jobs or work in industries like manufacturing
Am I supposed to move to China and work at Foxconn?
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>>53043517
Denmark's government would be considered far left in the US.
>>53043490
He's beaten Hillary in many polls.
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It's increasingly obvious /pol/ found this thread

>Cuck
>Jew
>Trump will win

>>>/pol/
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>>53044826
Sounds like he's pretty redpilled huh
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>>53045105
If they just made some small changes in their fiscal policy the Republicans would rule forever instead of becoming a meme party like it is now.

Primarily they should stop sucking corporate cock and actually support the middle class(which is the backbone of all countries and especially America). Not that the Democrats don't suck corporate cock and fuck the middle class over too but they are better at hiding it.

That's how it looks from over here anyway.
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>>53045201
the US isn't Europe.
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>>53044707
HOW DO WE STOP HIM
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>>53045079
yeah there is no jewish conspiracy whatsoever grzegorz, that's why rotschilds are not richest people and their off-shoots don't rule the banking. all big capital is owned by white european xtian people like you and me

capitalism is good for you goy. dismantle the state lol! anarcho-capitalism only way for the country
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>>53045152
Hades, once Palestinians behead them all.
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>>53045250
What exactly is the difference between the US and the EU?
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>>53045034
So only left wingers are allowed on this board? Why? Does it say so in the rules?
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>>53045225
>Le no manufacturing jobs exist in the US meme
I guess my job doesn't exist.
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>>53045284
>inb4 something about more minorities
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>>53045187
>I bet many socially conservative Americans are voting D because they're not millionaires.
Nope.

>Instead of catering to a small group of college/internet libertarian cucks, the Republicans should cater to this large group of social conservatives who are too poor for le libertarian internet meme.
Social conservatism is dying out. Most youth are not socially conservative so pandering to a depleting portion of the population is pointless.
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>>53045225
No its called blue collar work faggot
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>>53045103
>Sanders just wants to borrow ideas from the EU.
>What the fuck is this criticism?
well I wonder
could it be tied to EU being a fucking dying out cesspool of irrelevant cuck nations that is about to dismantle itself?
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>>53045223
So you're just a sheep.
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>>53045284
(Jij)
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>>53044938
Second Amendment. Shall not be infringed.
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>>53044894
>>53045232
>muh /pol/

just leave /int/ already
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hillary 2016 desu

what, do you hate women or something?
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Is he related to Colonel Sanders?
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>>53045395
Gonna get infringed in the near future, lad.

Only question is to what extent.
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>>53045399
Why don't you?
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I want him to win because I think that he might tone down the world police bs
I don't give two shits about what internal policies he plans on taking
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>>53045284
EU is basically what the US was under the articles of confederation (what we had before the Constitution) and our politicians realized they had two options to be effective back then 1. Dissolve or 2. Federalize. However it doesn't seem like Europeans recognize that and that's why the EU is so inefficient
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>>53043194
We can only hope
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>>53045460

you need to leave this world you communist faggot
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>>53045460
I guess he enjoys posting here. Or is trying to procrastinate.
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>His father was a Jewish immigrant from Poland whose family was killed in the Holocaust
kek
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>>53045274
joos are evil and must be destroyed haha! that's why I, under the boot of Aryan masters accept the way of National Socialism our Fuhrer comrade showed us!
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>>53045106
Why do you think Augustus and the other emperors gave the masses "free" bread and hosted all those gladiator matches, animal shows and chariot races? To placate the mob.

One can draw quite a lot of parallells with late Republican/Early Imperial Rome and America I think. Most people are content as long as they are fed and entertained.

The great problem is of course how to change this. Just taking the wealth from the rich and distributing it doesn't work as history has proven. But not doing anything eventually leads to societal collapse which history has also proven. It's a tough as fuck nut to crack.
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I will be voting for sanders.

I think I can describe my political outlook like this; a while ago the new zealand elections were going on and one of those silly tests were posted here to see which parties most correspond to you. My first result was the right wing nationalist NZ First, then the socialists, then the greens.

Honestly if this becomes a trump v sanders thing, I'll vote for sanders as I am a fan of stability, but either outcome would make me happy.
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>>53045372
You've called me a sheep twice now. Who exactly am I following? Did I say I'm voting for Bernie? Did I say I voted for Paul? I said I'm a fan.

I don't claim to be educated on all political fronts, I'm just in favor of the free flow of information. I like watching people go up against the dominant media. Am I a sheep because I like observing debates, or what?
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>>53044947
Poor social conservatives always vote for Republicans because they care more about ending gay marriage than improving their own material circumstances
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This is what Sanders voters literally believe
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can we hit 300 in under an hour? the shills and counter shills are out in full force today
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>>53045400
Hilary is more stupid than Trump, and that's hilarious.

She constantly backpedals on shit she said, and even said "Don't ignore me because I'm not "pure" enough"

Honestly she'd be worse than Bush if she won.
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>>53043083
Honestly, hes a populist. We have a lot of these in europe and I dont understand how can americans fall for that. Offering to buy out your voters is like number one populist way of winning.
>raise minimal pay
>benefits for everyone
>free education

Ill admit that his background does make him seem more like a sincere person than a regular populist, but I could never respect a candidate that openly offers to buy out his voters.

Besides, you guys do know that reddit is a company that has backers (ad's suppliers and etc) and that they have their own agenda? The same way 4chan has its agenda of free internet.

Also, as a lithuanian, once this socialist takes power, I can already imagine Putin having an easier time achieving his foreign policy goals. Bush had him under control, to some extent. Obama and his "resetting" of relations gave free reign to Putin and only once he started doing what he wanted he got cockblocked by obama's actions. Now this socialist isolationist nigger lover.
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>>53045294
>So only left wingers are allowed on this board
Yes, now fuck off to >>>/pol/

Seriously brain damaged /pol/tards don't belong here
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>>53043083

SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
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>jew
>cuck
>leftist

can't make this shit up senpai
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>>53045274
Almost all big capital in Sweden at least is owned by Swedes.

To bad for you your government literally gave all your shit away when you were de-commified.
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>>53045020
Nobody really thinks like this except for the worst of the nigs.
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>>53045607
>continue to fuck yourselves over economically so you can keep protecting us

Maybe you and Poland should quit being butthurt over centuries old bullshit and start working together against Mother Bear instead of relying on us, desu senpai.
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American politics are nothing but a meme
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>>53045550
>But not doing anything eventually leads to societal collapse which history has also proven. It's a tough as fuck nut to crack.

Taxing the rich is what should happen, but becoming a waremongering thief nation could help too.
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>>53045714
the rich are already taxed at the highest rates.
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>>53045460
because i enjoy /int/? go back to reddit or wherever you came from and stop infesting this board with your pathetic shilling
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>>53045437
Trump will reverse anything unconstitutional that Obama does.
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>>53045476
Thus the dictate of the federal government begun
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>>53045570
You're a sheep because you follow political leaders without actually having a political opinion of your own.
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>>53045695
yet the world revolves around its consequences
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>>53045666

cry more, cuck
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oz3YvE_FHXY
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>>53045359
I will not listen to EU complaints from one of its worst members.
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>>53045743
https://www.rt.com/business/apple-us-tax-avoidance-74bn-571/

Ayyyy
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>>53045692
>Maybe you and Poland should quit being butthurt over centuries old bullshit and start working together against Mother Bear instead of relying on us, desu senpai.

We should and I hope that we are going that way. Trust me, im all in for ensuring our own defense, but at the same time I am all in for 'murica world police. Anything that ensures the most dead ruskies is sure to gain my support. I give zero shits on mudslime rights or niggers who steal shit and get shot.
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>>53043523
He's pro-equality in general.

His main platform is fighting the growing divide between the rich and poor in the United States, by reducing living expenses for the poor and making taxes on the rich more fair.

In addition, he hopes to reduce unemployment through social spending to improve American infrastructure, and increase social mobility through more affordable education for the lower class.
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>>53045314

>Social conservatism is dying out. Most youth are not socially conservative so pandering to a depleting portion of the population is pointless.

Most polls and "research" claiming this is ignoring the fact that people in the 16-29 age group are afraid of having unpopular opinions.

And people become more conservative as they age. Many of our most notorious social conservatives here in Denmark are former marxists.

Even the older and leading MPs from our social democratic party are today against non-western immigration:

http://jyllands-posten.dk/indland/ECE8317187/Henrik-Sass-med-klar-flygtningekurs-%C2%BBVi-vil-g%C3%B8re-alt-for-at-begr%C3%A6nse-antallet%C2%AB/
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>>53045830
>Companies/Corporations
You said rich people, not specifically companies.
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>>53045791
>Cuckservative calling anyone a cuck
lel
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>>53045666
MINDER MINDER MINDER
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>>53045020
>getting a high paying job when youre poor is as easy as applying filling out a job application!
If it was that easy there wouldnt be so many poor people. Poor people have to work multiple jobs and work way more than full time, but get no health insurance since they don't work 40 hours in a single job.
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>>53045890
>Many of our most notorious social conservatives here in Denmark are former marxists.

Thats a common thing everywhere. Marxism stopped being popular and no one looks at marxisms seriously, so they jumped on another socialist-free-ride.
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>>53043083
Bernie "I ask what students want and tell them they'll have it for free" Sanders
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>>53045757
First of all, you're assuming DUDE WALL LMAO is going to become President, which is a bit of a stretch.

Secondly, outside of /k/, lots of people are tired of dead kids (and memeing "MUH CHILLUNS" isn't going to stop that).

Now, I don't believe that banning guns, or even strictly regulating them is the solution, but let's be realistic.

Many attempts at lesser regulation have been completely stopped (inb4 MUHCAKE comic) and the most pro-gun politicians also happen to be the most against any non-gun control solutions (i.e. funding for mental health, lessening intercity poverty, etc.)

There's going to be some sort of gun control in the near future, and it's not going to simply be Le Kenyan Muslim pushing through a radically unpopular policy. Most Americans seem to want something done (though I do believe a majority also support the 2nd Amendment to some extent) and since all previous efforts have been shot down (wew) whatever does get shoved through is going to probably be more severe than it needed to be.
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>>53045890
>Henrik Sass Larsen

based as fuck
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>>53045969
>I'll work tons of jobs with low hours and not get any benefits, and complain, instead of finding a job with 40 hours and benefits, like in blue collar work!
Blue collar jobs are always looking for people. Construction companies will pay for you to become a certified welder and make over 25 dollars an hour.
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is he the guy who owns KFC?
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>>53043371
>>53043490
>>53045227
PLEASE TELL ME THIS IS B8, PLEASE TELL ME MY FELLOW /INT/ FRIENDS AREN'T THIS DUMB
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Reminder that Trump supporters are literal cuckolds who would have freely offered their wives to their feudal lord in the middle ages
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>>53046077
You're thinking of colonel Sanders not cuck Sanders
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>>53046077
He already has the vote of the blacks in the pocket.
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>>53046149
I'm gonna ask again, are they related?
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>All this butthurt in this thread
Conservatards BTFO
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It seems to me Sanders would be the best one out of all the candidates in the race. I agree with him on most points. The middle class needs a serious lift.
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>>53045714
>Taxing the rich

You can only tax the rich as much as they allow themselves to be. If you overstep that, they'll find ways to siphon off that income elsewhere and NOBODY is going to stop them. Being rich gives you possibilities and one of those possibilities is being rich somewhere else.

As for a tax for those who earn a lot like top bankers, managers etc., that's a meme tax that's going to net meager millions tops. Those people are a negligible part of the population. It's just something to placate the poor's envy.

If you want to really fuck over the rich, start removing regulations and subsidies protecting them.
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>>53046187
No colonel Sanders feeds black people while cuck Sanders shills for them
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>>53046235
no one was btfo, everyone was shouting over each other /pol/-style
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>>53046298
That's not important.
Le wall and dank cuckold memes > Economic reform.

Fucking libcuck.
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>>53045890
>deny the validity and truth value polls which unanimously point to social conservatism being unpopular among US youth
Let's begin with what is social conservatism. It usually deals with issues regarding sex, drugs, family, and religion. Regarding sex, it is painfully obvious that people have a more relaxed attitude towards sex than 20 years ago. This is evidenced by today's hookup culture. Regarding drugs, most American youth are in favor of legalizing marijuana. Regarding family, more people are in favor of allowing early term abortion. Gay marriage too. And today people are less religious than ever. Is this all because these people don't want to have unpopular opinions? No. Is this going to change as people grow older. Absolutely not.
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>>53046172
Do you have black people at all in Lithuania? Just curious, that's all.
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Trump is elected, I guarantee you /pol/ will be the ones crying

>provides intelligence services unprecedented privileges and eventually closes sites like 4chan
>/pol/ crowd congregate at stormfront and other conservicuck websites where they are surprised they have to provide stronger evidence than MS Paint comics
>nukes any semblance of income equality
>nukes healthcare and makes it prohibitively expensive
>deports/prevents entry of Mexicans and 90% of /pol/ is forced to undertake minimum wage jobs while the remaining laugh at and mock them
>begins a number of wars or proxy battles and /pol/tards have to suffer through mandatory enlistment
and the best part
>corporations provided more power and re-elect him
Let's make America great Again! for the top 10% at least lel.
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Okay, when will either party present a non-meme candidate? It's getting kinda late.
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>>53046358
They call them "Russians" IIRC.
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>>53046302
This.
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>>53044040
And go where? I'm pretty sure most other successful countries will tax them the same, if not more.
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>>53046335
hah
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>>53044461
Jew gotta do what jew gotta do.
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>>53046302
This is why we need Trump.
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>>53046358
Not alot, but you can spot them (they tend to stand out). Most of them come here for studies and because of that they are only in the capital and maybe one or two other cities. There is no need for them as cheap labour force because we get russians and polacks fulfilling that role.

Plus this >>53046392
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>>53045766
That doesn't make any sense, anon. Like I said, who am I following? I am watching them.

>without actually having a political opinion of your own

Ah, so because I don't adhere to one of the established teams and root for it like I'm at a sports game, I am a sheep. I see. I must be some kind of nihilist with no opinions, no property, no allegiances, and no desires, because I prefer to observe the actions of individual policymakers regardless of what parties they are from. lol
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>bernie voters
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>>53046367
>Sudan
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>>53046614
Those guys are supported by pol too tho
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>>53046673
No, /pol/ thinks Ukraine is being split apart by the EU and Russia with either side winning being a loss for the Ukrainians
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>>53046673
You might be right. Shit is still bad, either way.
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>>53046446
Liechtenstein. Andorra. Seychelles. Whatever tax haven is the best currently.
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>>53046673
>tfw /pol/ and the lizard jews support the same group at the same time
Oy Junge
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>>53044077
Your post reminded me the South Park episode where the President of Canada was fucked to death
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>>53046335
>bernie knows more about economics than trump
negative
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>>53046661
Everybody's chiming in on American politics, thought I'd join in.
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>>53046745
>Ukraine is being split apart by the EU and Russia with either side winning being a loss for the Ukrainians
If that is really what pol believes, then I am surprised, because I kinda agree on that. Problem is that Poroshenko trusts the west too much.
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>>53046782
that's how you can tell new pol apart from old pol
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>>53046838
>DUDE WALL LMAO = economic knowledge
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>>53046745
Last time I was on /pol/ they were pretty much hailing Putin as the God-Emperor. This was a while back though, has general opinion changed?
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>>53043490
>Hillary is the lesser evil
lmaoing at you ignorant savages
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I love Bernie Sanders!
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America has meme tier politics you don't be a leftist just because you are a social democrat , you should be at least a Socialist ( does not matter what kind )
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>>53046873
>Economics degree from Wharton=economic knowledge

ftfy
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>>53046886
they hope trump get elected so this can happen
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>>53044452
That's a meme
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>>53044938
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>>53046899
I'm pro Bernie but would rather have trump over Hilary.

Hilary full on has the corporate dick in every single hole and then some.

I'd rather a rock be president than her.
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>>53043083
Less qt than trump
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>>53046976
isn't the socialist party of your country a terrorist organization?
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>>53046993
Maybe they forgot that USA transported Georgian troops from afghanistan to Georgia, supplied ammunition and equipment and ensured an almost naval blockade on russian ships.
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>>53047031
>I'd rather a rock be president than her.
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>>53046993
Only way for America to get his relations better with Russia is abandoning all her interests in Eastern Europe and Middle East.
America would not do that
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>>53044760
>Trump is the future

for 5 minutes, then they all realise what a horrible mistake they'll have to put up with for the next 4 years.
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>>53044329
Why your only defense consist on "meme this" and "meme that"??
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>>53047056
HDP is openly supporting world wide terrorist declared group PKK , yes.
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>>53047116
What, you mean a relation reset and approaching Russia as an equal will not work?

pic related
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>>53043083
Isn't Clinton already pretty muched fixed as the Democrats' candidate of choice anyway? Who cares about him.

My personal opinion of this guy is that he should be killed for using "socialism" as a synonym for social democracy. Don't really care a lot about America's domestic politicies except memetically.
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>>53047031
Trump literally is the corporate dick
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>>53047095
I try to forget the Bush years as much as possible. so probably.
flying the georgian troops home was a deal made prior to the russian-georgian war though.
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>>53047141
>then they all realise what a horrible mistake
m8 Trump is literally a repeat of Regan, and his going to win for the exact same reasons.
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>>53047267
He's a Democratic Socialist, not a Social Democrat
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>>53047267
This. A huge difference between social democracy and socialism.

Social democracy in its purest form is corporate fascism.
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Yup /pol/'s here
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>>53047293
I might be overstating this, but for me it seems that even though Bush had a lot of marketing mistakes, he had a grip on foreign policy.
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>>53047448
all me
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>>53044580
Doesn't seem that way to me
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>>53047448
reminder that Yank meme politicians belong on /pol/ and coming here to post them because you're too afraid doesn't change the rules.
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>>53047448
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>>53044333
Listen here you entitled fuck, you dont need college.
what you /need/ is manual labour to pay for food. what you want is a bullshit degree.
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>>53046549
>need Trump

I don't really know how much of the shit he says is him pandering and being a jackass to attract voters and how much he means it. I'm pro-Trump because he seems like the only possible Republican candidate to beat the Dems. Bottom line, I'm counting on him doing less damage than Sanders would've done.
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>>53047376
>implying there is any difference
Socialists, no matter what prefix or suffix they use, are always bad news. Crack open a history book, for fuck´s sake.

>mfw both yuropoors (driven by envy) and Americans (driven by irrational reactions to fearmongering) seem to love destroying what makes America great
Stop butchering the Bill of Rights and move to China, you authoritarian fuckwits.
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http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump

wew lad
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>>53046840
You didn't have to go full delusional about it
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>>53047559
>Reminder that only in the US is someone with his beliefs a meme

>Reminder that OPs thread was asking what other nations think of him, completely within the rules of /int/

>Reminder that /pol/ is the worst board on 4chan and does more to harm the site's image than /b/ and /v/
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>>53047294
Oh god I'm imagining the Republican party worshiping Trump and trying to outdo each other at emulating him for the next 30 years
I'm at full mast right now guys
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>>53047376
Democratic socialist = someone who supports the abolition of private ownership (note - a broader term than communism which only refers to Marxist socialism) and democracy. Do you think that describes his views accurately? Unlikely.
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>>53043083
Good thing Jim webb didnt get any votes the moderate democrat, war hero, Secretary of the Navy and senator, no instead we have Hillary, a socialist and a realility t.V star. Iam deeply disappointed in my countrymen.
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>>53047573
Maybe in your poor country, but in the West you need a degree to get anything, all the manual labor jobs either go to immigrants or the third world, automation and globalization
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>>53047116
our current interest in the middle east is syria where we have drones.
we want assad out of power putin wants him in power.
unless putin drops assad or assad wants to become a puppet of USA I don't think well find a common ground.(both outcomes are unlikely)

the only eastern european country that likes us is poland. but most of eastern europe is part of nato and we won't abandon nato for a new partnership with russia.

I could see a us-russian coordinated bombing on isis though.
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>>53047747
Jim Webb was very akin to Kennedy. He was the best option for the people and the party.
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>>53047448
I guess that's what happens when a candidate is jewish and goes on about slavery.
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>>53047181
The PKK and especially YPG are based as fuck

If I was a billionaire I would unironically give the Rojava government tens of millions of dollars
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>>53047665
>Reminder that /pol/ is the worst board on 4chan and does more to harm the site's image than /b/ and /v/

Hardly, /pol is the meme capital of 4chan and central to modern imageboard culture.

Also, the community of /b/ has done serious harm to real people in real life on multiple occasions, whileas /pol/ has never done anything of the sort at afaik.
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>>53047623
>authoritarian
On the contrary

>>53047727
>someone who supports the abolition of private ownership
That's not always the case
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>>53045106
There won't be a revolution you fucking cuck
Actually seeing the way the French and Russian revolutions went, the reality is the exact opposite, France and Russia were undergoing huge growth and most landowners had acquired their land within two generations on the eve of their revolutions.
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>>53047903
>That's not always the case
But that's what socialism is.
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>>53047913
>le let them eat cake face
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>>53047665
>>Reminder that only in the US is someone with his beliefs a meme
its really funny that you believe this
he's a career politician from the whitest most affluent WASP state in the union who has repeatedly voted against his "beliefs"

either way he's even more unelectable than trump and no one outside of the internet even cares about him.

hell even Trump has more minority support than Bernie does.
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>>53047488
>he had a grip on foreign policy.
>invaded a country on the basis that they had WMDs
>turns out it was lie
>with out a dictator keeping rebellion at bay isis rises and starts slaughtering people

bush made alot of countries hate america and gave us a bad image.
http://www.pewglobal.org/database/indicator/1/survey/all/
look at the bush years
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You people want Bernie because you want your FREE STUFF, MAN

/int/ is full of unemployed fucks with history degrees so it doesn't surprise me
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>>53047665
>>Reminder that /pol/ is the worst board on 4chan and does more to harm the site's image than /b/ and /v/
>the sites image
oi I'm laffin
go back to reddit of you honestly care what those mongs think,
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>>53047181
Resisting genocide and Islamism is terrorism now? lol
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>>53047903
>On the contrary
Explain yourself. How is infringing on/wanting to infringe on God-given American liberties not authoritarian?

>That's not always the case
Socialists don't believe in private property. This probably sparks from their jealousy of their more talented contemporaries who usually manage to aquire property by utilizing their unique skills.
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>>53047954
>>53047903
What the burger said. That is the definition of socialism as an ideology, even though confused American's use it synonymously with concepts such as the welfare state and social democracy
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>>53047860
>PKK
>based
don't they scream death to america like all the other terrorists
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>>53046614
>>53046754
>>53046745
>>53046673
>>53046782
>homorights advocates wanting to show solidarity with pro russian rebels who hate fags
>in a war between a incompetent kiev government who thinks the first chechen war is a good example of how to handle rebellions
>and rebels supporting russian landgrabs because the rest of the country wanted to get rid of a corrupt despot and also thinks killing POWs and beating the shit out of anyone who didn't wanna be russian
>both sides accusing each other of being jewish puppets when both of their respective sugar daddies have large jewish lobbies
>but also both accusing each other of being evil fascists
>and total degenerates

I bet these dumb fucks would wear a Che Guevara t-shirt at a peace/human rights/black lives matter rally.
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>>53048106
welfare and social democracy are perfectly comparable with a capitalist market economy, look at Scandinavia for an example

socialism however requires planned and controlled economics, and therefore control of the people.
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>>53047913
revolutions are determined by hunger.
both those countries faced a famine before and during their revolutions.
large mobs of hungry people are what causes revolutions, that why the romans employed the tactic of bread and circus to keep the people at bay.
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>>53047980
>survey
I already implied he had a shitty public image. His invasion of iraq was good enough for me m8. Shit with WMD's wouldnt even be needed for me.

>Invade kuwait
>support terrorist organizations around the globe
>kill minorities in your country
>basically, support anything to destabilise the region

The "saddam would stop isis" meme needs to die. Saddam was isis on his own, same way as gaddafi and other shitheads.

>>53048202
>I bet these dumb fucks would wear a Che Guevara t-shirt at a peace/human rights/black lives matter rally.
Thats like a no-brainer.
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>>53046612
That makes you a sheep.
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>>53048150
Nah. They're anti-imperialist but they are much more concerned with resisting the Turks and ISIS.

We'd openly ally ourselves with them (as we do with the Iraqi Kurds) if we didn't need to preserve the alliance with Turkey to keep Russia out of the Mediterranean.
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>>53048226
Literally what I have been saying all along.
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>>53045666
No u.
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>>53048150
Yes, they're literally communist Muslims (since both are in polar opposition to the Kemalist state)
The only Kurds worth a shit are in Iraq.
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>>53048226
>socialism however requires planned and controlled economics, and therefore control of the people.
Social democracy also requires a lot of population control, mainly through rewarding "good" consuming with low taxes and "bad" consuming with high taxes.

>welfare and social democracy are perfectly comparable with a capitalist market economy, look at Scandinavia for an example
No Scandinavian country is a "market economy". Take a look at our labour laws, tax rates and regulatory jungles before you splurge outright lies.
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>>53044059
America was LITERALLY created to not be like Europe...
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>>53048226
When Bernie Sanders says "socialism" that's what he means. He has no intention of abolishing capitalism.

1960s Labour was further left than him.
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>>53048605
Not to be like FORMER Europe, faglord.

Current Europe shits on us in the happiness of the common man.
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>>53048605
>arguing with an American "liberal"
These people don't possess the mental capacity required for comprehending the conceptual differences between the Old World and New World. It's a lost cause.
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>>53048605
The US was meant to be further-left than Europe (the language the founders would have used was "positive liberal").

Now that Europe is further left than the United States, one could argue that the US ought to shift leftward to better match the vision of our founding fathers.
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>>53048695
Current Europe is also delving deeper and deeper into a massive pile of shit and fire.
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>>53048605
America was literally created for tax evasion and getting out of British agreements with injuns.
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>>53048695
>Not to be like FORMER Europe, faglord.
Europe is still a backwards, feudal shithole if compared to America, faglord.

>Current Europe shits on us in the happiness of the common man.
Did you include the poverty-stricken eastern block in that count? What indexes did you use to measure "happiness"?
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>>53048605
We wanted to avoid certain aspects of European governance that no longer exist in Western Europe - aristocracy, theocracy, and autocracy.

Ironically, the US is now somewhat like what we wanted to escape.
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>>53048740
>The US was meant to be further-left than Europe (the language the founders would have used was "positive liberal").
But you're dead wrong, you goddamn idiot. The founding fathers of the United States were staunch classical liberals, i.e. champions of LIMITED GOVERNMENT and NEGATIVE LIBERTY.
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>>53048740
Left is not liberal. Strict control of the economy is literally the opposite of left.
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>>53048740
>the vision of the founding fathers

I distinctly remember you not wanting to pay taxes and going to war for it. What do you think is going to fund Bernie's plans?
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>>53047749
AND you dont see this as a problem?
What you need is less degrees, not more.
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>>53048890
Meant the opposite of Liberal.
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>>53048859
This.
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>>53048816
>We wanted to avoid certain aspects of European governance that no longer exist in Western Europe - aristocracy, theocracy, and autocracy.
We have mob rule now, i.e. democracy, which is just as shitty as everything you just mentioned.

PS. Europeans had no free press, free speech, a right to keep and bear arms or protection against unreasonable search and seizure.

>Ironically, the US is now somewhat like what we wanted to escape.
Really? Do you get thrown in jail for anti-semitism? Are your taxes secretly twice as high as they are on paper? Do you have to use "proportional force" when defending life and property? Are you regarded as a dangerous serf, fit to bear arms only when in service of your nation or after subjecting to a lengthy licensing procedure (after which you can't bear arms, only keep them)?

You Americans are a thousand times more free than us old-world plebeians could ever dream of being.
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>>53048740
Except people like Jefferson would be against a strong federal government, which is what liberals like Bernie want.
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>all these people saying that universal healthcare is impossible in usa because were different from europe
what the fuck are you talking about my state has universal healthcare right now? In MA your not allowed to even be un-insured so the government will give you MASS health if your to poor to afford regular insurance or if your job won't offer you any.

the whole "were larger than european countries" doesn't hold water because you can just have the universal healthcare system be managed by each state for efficiency. also canada has it.
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>>53049068
>constant threads made by euros about how usa is a 3rd world country because they don't have healthcare/free education and have mass shootings due to little gun control
>thread made by burgers saying how they want to be more like europe is filled with europeans saying that america has it way better than europe

im confused am I still on /int/?
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>>53049101
>the whole "were larger than european countries" doesn't hold water because you can just have the universal healthcare system be managed by each state for efficiency.
First off, universal healthcare is not efficient at all if the goal is a high quality of care and being on the forefront of medical research. We have more accessible care, yes, but it isn't as useful when push comes to shove.

Secondly, universal healthcare goes against the traditional American values of self-reliance and self-determination. Taxes are a necessary evil, not a blessing, you nitwit.

>also canada has it.
And that is supposed to prove what, exactly?
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>>53049101
Canada is smaller than California, ya dingus
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>>53049101
>It works for my tiny state so it must work for the whole nation!
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>>53049296
>First off, universal healthcare is not efficient at all if the goal is a high quality of care
you could have the highest quality of care in the world but it doesn't mean jackshit if only 30% of people can afford the care.
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>>53049242
Hes right though.
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>>53047860
You can go join them. The YPG even has a special brigade for western volunteers plus the YPG is legal to fight for the PKK are the terrorists.
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>>53049242
>implying all Europeans are brainwashed, subservient cu ckolds
Some of us don't like being treated as second-grade citizens.

Oh, and
>free healthcare/education
Not actually free.
>mass shootings due to little gun control
To put it bluntly: niggers and latinos in gangs are what ruin American homicide statistics. White/Asian American neighborhoods, even if they are heavily armed, are no more violent than white European neighborhoods.


TL;DR: Europeans who bash America are usually clueless about their own society AND American society. They are, in short, stupid.
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>>53049242
>saying that america has it way better than europe
lol only autistic Finn Ameriboos though
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>>53049410
>you could have the highest quality of care in the world but it doesn't mean jackshit if only 30% of people can afford the care.
Sure, but Strawmen aren't really of any relevance, are they?
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>>53049101
Because you have large unchecked migrant population. Your doctors are charging exorbitant sums becuase of exorbitant settlements in courts. Who do you think is going to pay that now? Not even Europe can afford its free healthcare in the long run and it only works because the doctors are state employees so the state can regulate their wages.

Universal healthcare will bankrupt you. It will prolong the life of all those old, useless poor people who no longer work and are currently dying in their 60s and 70s. Not to mention immigrants stuffing themeselves with fastfood getting diabetes and heart attacks.
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>>53043083

I think he is the most reasonable alternative. I scoff at /pol/ cheering for trump, but I also kinda hope he wins so USA can have their first meme president
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>>53049539
>implying
Is being a serf preferable to being a free man? And no, your "free" healthcare" and "free" education don't weigh up for the authoritarian governments ruling this backwards continent.
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>>53049611
This is pure bullshit though

I'm not sure what you have in the Czech repulbic but here insurance companies are make billions of euro's in revenu that they were forced by the government to lower tarifs.
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>>53049101
what if I told you it sucks in Europe too?
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>>53049702
>I think he is the most reasonable alternative.
His campaign is based on promising "free" stuff. The man doesn´t seem to have a basic sense of economics. His stances on foreign policy are murky at best.

The Bern is the shittiest possible alternative. I'd rather obey Ted Cruz than this senile old fart.
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We wouldn't have any SJW cuck shit if our society was more equal and available. Bernie Sanders is the best choice. Cuckservatives want to keep it a Laissez-faire third world shithole.
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>>53049907
>We wouldn't have any SJW cuck shit if our society was more equal and available. Bernie Sanders is the best choice. Cuckservatives want to keep it a Laissez-faire third world shithole.

Are you baiting or are you for real?
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>>53049383
well obviously we know how to run our state the best in the union.
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>>53049907
>We wouldn't have any SJW cuck shit if our society was more equal and available.
Forced "equality" isn´t worth striving for.

>Bernie Sanders is the best choice.
His trump card is promising "free stuff" with no regard for the costs.

>Cuckservatives want to keep it a Laissez-faire third world shithole.
America is among the richest countries in the world. It's population is the most politically emancipated.

Stop with the pathetic self-loathing.
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>>53049804

Are you a trump supporter?
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>>53050008
>implying it boils down to governance and not race
New England is white and asian and successful. Go figure.
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>>53049717
>insurance companies

So kinda like what America has now?
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>>53049907
Laissez-faire is exactly what enabled you to become a superpower.
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>>53050096
>America is among the richest countries
where most of the wealth belongs to the top 20% lel

>shilling for the corporation
you will be the first to go on the day of the rope
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>>53046367
I just don't get how cuckservatives could be so willingly ignorant.
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>>53050121
I "support" Rand Paul - he's the only candidate who actively fights against federal government expansion. I have no vote, though, seeing as I'm finnish, and thus my opinion won't exactly have any measurable effect on American politics.
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>>53050156
>south imports blacks by the ship loads
>then complains that there's too many blacks
not the north's fault southerners are retarded.
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>>53050253
>where most of the wealth belongs to the top 20% lel
...and where the middle-class is also the richest - richer than your middle class, for example.

>you will be the first to go on the day of the rope
>implying I fear a dutchman with rope
I'll save the 7.62x39 for you.
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>>53050172
NO country has "free" healtcare, stop spreading this dumb meme, everyone has affordable healtcare here but it's not free, you retards will never be able to differentiate anyway, why am I still trying.
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>>53050288
>southerners are retarded.
To be honest, it worked well back in the days of slavery, and current southerners can't really fix the problems that came later on.
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>>53050320
Well thank god my country is more developed than America
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