>>53011297 Apparently so. We're gonna have another fucking meme president and there isn't a dick we can do about it. Now all we can do is sink to the bottom of the shit barrel with the rest of our country.
>>53011570 that's what people are ignoring he may speak to the idiot nationalist base the republicans have been cultivating but he has no chance of attracting anyone that doesn't fall within that group and that's not how you built a majority
>>53011297 I can imagine him winning like this: >the far-right loves him and the center-right is too disillusioned to vote for anyone. >He wins the republican nomination because the center-right stays home. >he instantly starts distancing himself from his past extremist rhetoric and positions >the press calls him out for flip-flopping >he's honest, blunt, and cavalier about it >"yeah, I took a far-right position when I was running for the republican nomination. That's how you win the republican nomination. If I was running as a democrat, I'd have taken a far left position. That's how this thing works." >"but Mr. Trump. Isn't that dishonest" >"yeah. it probably is, but that's just how politics are." >people are refreshed by his honesty and impressed by his audacity. >a team of advisers pick a slew of centrist positions that will appeal to the most voters. >He runs in the general election as a politician with boring policy platforms, and an exciting personality. >POTUS Trump makes America great again.
I would be very suprised if he didnt get the GOP nomination at this point. the real question is if he has a chance against Hillary
either way I think it will be an entertaining campaign and no matter the outcome shitloads of high quality memes are bound to come out of it either at the expense of the US in the case of Clinton and a mixture of ironic and unironic praise in the case of Trump
either way the US and by extension the world is fucked, enjoy the ride!
>>53012177 I can totally see this happening to be honest. He seems like he's purposefully pandering to the far right just for the numerical backing. I can see him shifting to a more centralized moderate rhetoric exactly like that once in the general election to secure centrist voters and probably end up in a moderate right position should he win, with a few toned down takes on his more extreme right ideas to placate his initial support base.
He's a populist that appeals to the common man and average American that's sick of our government bending down to foreign people by giving them free shit while many native citizens have to work two jobs to live comfortably.
The primary reason that he's painted a devil by the media and liberals is that he has no "politically correct" word filter - he says everything exactly as it is - no matter how uncomfortable or unpleasant it may be. Feelings will get hurt, but that's just life.
>>53012597 I'm pretty positive Hillary can't beat Trump, especially Trump.
I think she can maybe beat Rubio and Cruz, and definitely Yeb, but not Trump.
I wouldn't be surprised if it came down to a 60-65% sweep for Trump, desu senpai
>>53012638 See, the thing is that Trump's entire campaign is based on centrist/moderate policies that promote American growth and moderate protectionism, he just hasn't played up those cards too much because he hasn't needed to.
Once we switch to general campaigning you'll see what Trump really has in store, and I think it's enough to ruin the Democrats for the future, assuming the GOP is smart enough to adopt Trump's platform, which they aren't.
this will happen to some degree regardless of who wins. Bernie, Hillary, Trump, Jeb, etc. Any of them would shift toward the center (at least a little) after the party nomination. That's just what happens.
But isn't he too far right to get Latinos and blacks voting for him? Isn't that what actually is always in favor of the democrats recently? I'd like to see trump become president, but I am a bit afraid the guy will make some dumb move and put the world into chaos.
he said at a debate that the Chinese were operating in Syria. even you average /int/ autist knows how completely fucking wrong that is, and this guy was a high profile politician. I actually liked him but the GOP debate caused me and most of his supporters to lose faith in him
Don't think of it in terms of left vs right, or via the compartmentalizing of minorities. Trump wins because his platform is America first, and Americans like that, all Americans.
Also, Trump doesn't make dumb moves, everything he does and says is strategically calculated for some purpose. He manipulates both his linguistic skills and the media to further his message, and most importantly his branding.
Pay attention to his rallies and you can see how he's been building himself up in 1 very particular way, which is a huge tell for some future event, and that's to his extraordinary health and stamina, whereas he's been picking at Hillary's health and stamina a bit. No doubt he's aware of some major health problem she has or had, and is setting himself up to be the only logical choice based on sheer ability to serve once he starts dropping the bombs of her illness.
If anyone out there thinks Hillary can beat Trump, or that Trump isn't a hyper genius, then you're nuts. He's playing a very elaborate game here, and he's doing it all with his greatest skill, which is branding.
Donald Trump is the kind of guy who could topple a world leader with just a label, the same way he did to Jeb.
>>53011297 >be me >be donald trump >have lots of "friends" from across the globe >shit on muslims and tell mexicans to fuck off and build a wall because "muh-muh merica" >tell people my "friends" are all okay with it >actually have no friends >actually only have people who are nice to me because of all of the money I have and in a heartbeat I know that they would take whatever money they can from me >call people ignorant when called on my bullshit >have a bunch of fat idiots online who support me because I am a meme machine
You are literally an idiot if you support Donald Trump.
He will likely win the republican nomination. No one can guess what will happen in the general election. Anyone saying otherwise is delusional. Awhile ago, Trump had no chance of winning the nomination according to the media. Then his campaign was definitely over because he said mean things about people. Now they say he definitely can't win the general election. It's just keeps happening.
>Because a new poll, which still has Trump leading the race, shows 40 percent of blacks are lining up behind Trump, as are 45 percent of Hispanics, and even nearly 19 percent of Asians. >Blacks and Hispanics, in fact, even support Trump at a higher level than whites.
>>53013607 I'm giving him an 89% chance at winning.
90% chance to win the nomination, and 99% chance to win the general.
Hillary is a hilariously weak candidate, and will have dozens of anchors around her neck going into the general, including Obama, emails, Benghazi, her defense of a pedophile rapist, whitewater, her husband, Bernie's popular support, national security, the clinton foundation, and her personality.
Trump can easily stick a knife in her back with each and every one of those things, and him having almost no personal scandals will walk away with the presidency.
The Nuclear Triad question was pointless because we effectively don't have one anymore. It's mostly sub based. I don't think he needed to know exactly what they meant. Why would a businessman know about something that hasn't been relevant since 1985?
>>53013672 >Trump's base steals from the Democrat base He really doesn't. Even my family that's nominally republican dismisses him as a dick they'd not want as president. >and nobody likes/trusts Hillary.
Yes, but I see so many people claim "I don't like Hilary but if it came down to her and Trump I guess I'd have to vote Hilary..."
Trump is good at rousing a loud and sizeable minority but he simply pisses off the majority of Americans.
>>53013865 That interview with CNN where he couldn't answer which groups or people were in play in the Middle East. Names you could pick up watching TV like Al-Baghdadi or Hezbollah. Couldn't talk about a single one. After that he went and proclaimed that if elected he would know more about them than anyone in the US because the point after you're elected is the best time to learn about it, right? His answer to the nuclear triad question was him going nuclear weapons are very important because nuclear weapons are very important. It doesn't matter because you'll suck his dick anyways. Vote for your clown.
>>53013997 The Democrat base is largely blue collar and black.
Trump's base has huge numbers from both blacks and blue collar workers, even Hispanics.
Nobody is going to vote for Hillary when it comes down to it, you just wait and watch what Trump does over the next 11 months.
If you think I'm wrong then go ahead and identify a single part of the Democrat base that Hillary can mobilize that Trump won't eat into big time. Even single hysterical women are up for grabs if he makes a convincing case over national security.
Hillary is literally the worst candidate you can run against Trump
>>53014127 >divides the poor good. The worker's party here finally managed to unite the poor under the banner of socialist welfare, and secured themselves in power for over a decade. Now after 15 years of crippling corruption and a broken economy, the poor are finally starting to become less trusting of gommies again. There's no utopia, m8.
Trump is literally putting together the coalition that the GOP has been saying they need, and he's doing it by ignoring minority issues and putting forth a platform that strengthens America for all Americans, and people like that.
Get ready for a rectal ragnarok the likes of which we've never seen this time next year.
This is the most autistic thread I've ever seen. No, Eurofriends, Trump is not really winning. Hillary probably will win. You may see Trump run as an independent against a Rubio or Cruz type guy, leading to hilarious hillary landslide. Don't listen to the fucking spergs in this thread
>>53014546 I know a few people who voted for Obama and support Trump. A lot Trump naysayers seem disconnected from reality. The only people not supporting Trump are butthurt SJWs and the media. Even Fox News shits on him.
>>53014598 >follows liberal ideology it compromised with "liberal ideology" under extreme duress, and that's the reason we still even have something that resembles an economy today. The only government in LATM that didn't even attempt to follow liberal ideology at all is Venezuela. There's a 3-hour line to buy toilet paper there.
Far-left ideology is retarded. It takes actually witnessing it up close to understand why. That's why most polish and latin american posters here are kind of right-wing or at least pro-capitalism now. Socialism, not even once
>>53014401 >Ted Cruz no, the man is hilariously insane. not even your average christian believes the shit he spews >Jeb Bush the man begs for money on twitter on a daily basis, nothing against him really but he doesnt have a chance in hell >bernie sanders no, he wants to put a size 2 shoe on a size 13 foot. he desperately wants to please everyone and all of the shit he plans on doing has no chance of actually being implemented. I can see why he appeals to teenage and college age people but the fact that he only ever quotes rich nordic countries as examples of socialistic policy working and conveniently ignores all the times where it failed just doesnt jive with me
>obama for a third term he hasnt been the worst we have had but wanting to change the law just to keep him in power makes me think this is a troll post
>>53014897 The only audience he has any chance of reaching can't operate at much higher than a 4th grade level
I spend a lot of time talking politics on Facebook, and I can usually tell someone is a Trump supporter just by their grammar and spelling. These people literally talk about other people needing to learn their language when they can barely speak it themselves and have had their entire lives to learn it.
>>53015033 I know how you feel, but we're yet to find something better than liberalism. Because Socialism isn't it. Even conservativism makes more sense at this point, and that's probably why your elections went the way they did
>>53014938 >http://www.wnd.com/2015/12/minorities-line-up-behind-donald-trump/ According to this, out of a measely 447 people surveyed, 4 black people supported Trump, which means they only interviewed 10 black people in the first place.
This poll is shit. I'm not even bothering to read your other source if this is what you post. You'll believe anything that tells you what you want to hear apparently.
Just like all the other Trump supporters. It amazes me that you people think you make any sense.
>>53015067 >I'm not going to read the poll, I'll just ignore it based on who posted it because "durr liberal/conservative media" >what is ad hominem
>>53015239 You think he'll lead the country well? Let me guess, you like his "spunk" or his "straight talk" but probably can't tell me a fucking thing about his positions? Can you name any of his actual policy positions?
Have fun voting with emotions, facts are hard anyway.
>>53015148 Well, conservatism is literally opposed to liberalism; but none of the parties in France are close to be conservatist, right and left fully embraced liberalism, and the far-right is only having votes because of their socialists views and its opinion on immigration. Both orthodox marxists and liberals think that we have to develop the productive forces
>>53015280 I just like him. That's more than I can say for any other candidate. Plus, he's a fantastic businessman, and he's respected by other world leaders. So...I'm voting for him and I'm taking your mom out for fish fingers after I go to the polls.
>>53015286 > the far-right is only having votes because of their socialists views and its opinion on immigration
news to me. I thought it was because of their stance on immigration
>Both orthodox marxists and liberals think that we have to develop the productive forces
As far as I'm aware, liberals are generally pro-market and therefore opposed to marxists, even though most nowadays have some socialist leanings. Marxists are just lunatics, though, and have a very clear tendency of ruining any economy they put their hands on.
>>53015286 Liberalism is supposed to mean things like "life, liberty and pursuit of happiness". I dunno when it became about "we should pretend guns don't exist and put everyone on welfare"
>>53015321 Meant to say analysis. I'm drunk and words are hard. Maybe Trump and I have more in common than I realized.....
>>53015395 You know, you're at least willing to admit that you're too fucking stupid to do any research. There might actually be hope for you. And I hope you and my mom have a nice time getting fish fingers, that made me kek.
>>53015468 Capitalism is an utopia: the auto-regulated market (free competition) and procedural law are the only institutions that are allowed to exist in a world without ideology-driven government of men, but now governed by the technical administration of things on a neutral axiology, dicted by experts. every limitation that opposes to one's desires is seen as a discrimination (slapping a child now equals to beating him). it just wants people to be only consumerists. since every source of authority is criticised, the individual has more trouble finding limitations and taboos.
>>53011297 Literally why Plato said Democracy is a shitty fucking system. Something this retarded would never fucking happen in China, which is now the world's biggest economy and will eventually replace the US as the world power.
>>53015877 Some of these problems are possibly self-correcting, though. Just look at this thread and all the crazy /pol/llacks it spawned from thin air. There's a legitimate counter-culture movement going on, and a lot of these things are going to be rolled back. Conservativism ins't going away as easily as people thought it would. Old western values (that dictate traditional values, taboos and limitations) will endure.
We're not going back to the XIX century, but I think some sort of compromise will be reached. Cultural Marxism will not be universally achieved
>>53015622 The 'murrican political system is rigged in favour of the established parties and their carbon copy candidates. Sometimes a wild card like Trump can upset the balance, but the way it's set up, such a wild card will only hand the victory to the other established party.
>>53016169 >hina, which is now the world's biggest economy and will eventually replace the US as the world power. laughing at how much of a moron you are. China has FAR worse issues than the USA has ever had, they are just better at covering it up.
>>53016169 Do you know that they have huge riots every time and then? With the so-called 'socialist market economy' (kek), China also introduced the liberation of morals in its walls; Now in China there wil be like in every other occidental country the farce between 'liberals' and 'conservatives'.
>>53016204 Yep, I know that liberalism is triumphant right now but as an ideology it has its own end in itself: it didn't appeared ex nihilo, thus some people stil are honest, loyal to the State, to the transmission of knowledge; this is the cultural limit. the material limit, well it's the earth's ressources. its saping its own bases. But its improtant to think of what comes next; socialism as it was applied in the XIX and XXth centuries had the same view as capitalism on growth
>>53016617 >growth Well, no one's all that optimistic about growth now. I'm sure we'll attempt some environmental cointaiment for a while, especially when the oil craze ends and things slow down for good. Other than that, the model of productivity will likely remain mostly unchanged from our current liberal one. The liberal model will survive with scarcity, it will just generate more inequality but honestly it's better than the alternative. Just look at any third world country. If anything, non-liberal models work even less efficiently when it comes to handling scarcity. Again, just look at venezuela or north korea.
>>53016204 you say that we do not have to go back to yyth century shows that Progress also shapes your view on the world; the way we live right now cannot be sustained without making billions' lifes difficult (truism,,, I know). If there's something I like in liberalism it is that its first aim (founder's goal) was to make men more free: freedom of religion, of speech etc.. today's laws on gays, I'm cool with it too. But it leaves out the most fundamental discrimination, wealth inequality. Not that some inequality is bad (meritocracy is a good thing) but the actual levels should scandalize everyon
>>53013605 please don't listen to the fucking idiots taking you for a ride. Black people, or any minority for that matter, absolutely despise trump. His base is almost completely comprised of the type of people who would rather see blacks hung than live with them. Trump appeals to only the most bigoted, nationalistic, and uneducated of Americans.
>>53017213 yes, that's what charity is for, and by charity I mean welfare programs. Unless you're going full police-state, you need some level of wealth redistribution or else you'll have bloody revolts. The bad thing with these programs currenty is that they are populist vote-buying policies and come attatched to a variety of other far-left idiocies.
It's hard to say what kind of system would work best. Maybe democracy is unsustainable after all, but liiberalism is still salvageable I think
>>53017052 It can't be stopped anymore in my opinion, cop21 was a farce and eventually shit will hit the fan when water will be scarce, whilst people will realise - I hope so - that far-right manipulated their fears for power and start doing some change on the political field (like ending the representative system). I also hope that with the next economic crisis, some changes will be made (the ideas of Silvio Gesell on depreciating money).
I don't see liberalism as the only horizon for dealing with scarcity; the philosophy that gave birth to it is indeed a pessimist philosophy, where man is only driven by its rightly understood interest; trade, private companies aren't tied to liberalism, the roman empire dealt well with logistics
>>53017427 I thought as much. But it wouldn't surprise me if a high number of black voters went for Trump instead of, say, hillary or sanders(compared to the percentage that voted for Obama).
Trump is the most charismatic among those 3 and his flashines could appeal to some of them. Also, from my observations over the years, blacks appear to be on average less educated and sometimes as bigoted as whites in america.
>>53017440 Well you're quite agreeing with Piketty then, that tax, thus wealth redistribution coordinated by the state is the way to go; alas, with all the richs leaving for tax heavens (they do not feel it has a treason anymore since liberalism also criticise nation-states) and the stupid logic of 'you do not want to tax people that are investing duuh' this is hard to achieve.
And as I said it here >>53017493, liberalism reaches its limits on the political level: I think the representative system - which is a base of liberalism- is in crisis. So I dont see how you could one ideology end democracy without ending liberalism
>>53017796 so...what? total war on tax havens? Tiny countries like luxemburg could have their days numbered after all, no need for us to go ww3 over this petty shit. I wouldn't support the creation of giant centralized abominations (like the EU becoming a country), and that wouldn't work either. Actual culturally-based nation-states would probably work best for everyone
>: I think the representative system - which is a base of liberalism- is in crisis. So I dont see how you could one ideology end democracy without ending liberalism.
I don't know either, but I'm sure it will have to happen. Liberalism is too ingrained into people's beings now. Trying to get rid of it completely is just as naive as a libertarian trying to completely get rid of socialist policies
>>53018902 I guess the solution we proposed there is further control over one aspect of capitalism. Not really a socialist, lad, but even I recognize capitalism has it's limitations. The tax and redistribution, to me personally, are mostly charity. If you want to be cynical about it, think about it this way: give up the rings so you can keep your fingers
>>53019259 First off, there are 2 parts to a Presidential election: 1) primaries 2) general election
The primaries are where each party (i.e. it's members) vote amongst themselves to choose who will represent the party in the general election. People can also run as non-partisan independents, but it's not common and they have no chance of winning in a general election.
The primaries are actual way more convoluted than the general election and a portion of the delegates vote independent of the results in each state.
Basically Trump is fucked because the core of the Republican party hates him, so even if he gets a lot of the primary vote, the party will still try to block him from becoming the nominee. Doing so could backfire and he could run as an independent, undercutting the actual Republican candidate and handing the election to Clinton.
There's a lot more to it than that, but that the really simplified version.
Longer answer: There is a chance that he will win enough states in the primaries to make it so that the Republican Party has no choice but to nominate him. I wouldn't say there's a good chance of that happening, but the possibility does exist. If that happens though, the party will basically be required (if they want to survive longer term) to run an establishment candidate as an independent just to maintain the party's "brand" so to speak. The problem for the Republican establishment right now is that they aren't centered behind any one candidate, and the options they have still trail well behind at least two anti-establishment candidates (Trump and Cruz).
>>53019587 It's no absolutely zero, but there is no way they nominate him unless they have no other choice. That is to say, he will only get the nomination if he does significantly enough better than the other candidates that the delegate math can't be fucked with enough to make up the gap.
But even if he's not the nominee and he still does well in primary voting, he could run as an independent and take votes away from whoever the actual Republican nominee is.
>>53019628 seems like the biggest mistake was the republican party actually letting things get to a point where the majority of their voting base no longer prefers their chosen candidates indicating a serious need on their part to change strategy
something similar happened in our politics only with all traditional parties ignoring an increasingly larger number of the population in favor of presenting the voting base with their own type of candidates. It resulted in a minor party led by a popular figure with a relatively controversial set of ideas to essentially overnight dominate the political landscape
>>53019587 >>53019468 The closest analog to Trump is Ross Perot. He ran as a conservative independent in 1992 and as the Reform Party candidate in 1996 and both times he drew a considerable number of votes away from the Republican nominee. Hew achieved this because he is super wealthy and mostly self-financed his campaigns and knew how to play the media.
>>53019810 Your first statement there is absolutely correct. Basically high level Republican strategy did not evolve to meet the changing preferences and attitudes of the electorate and now they are paying the price for it.
>>53019876 in a way they are lucky that your country has only two "true" parties in many other nations this sort of strategy could and would result in a splinter party being created that actually had a realistic shot at permanently supplanting them in importance
>>53019920 The Republican establishment isn't necessarily a majority of the Republican base but they are definitely a plurality, and the other factions don't agree with the establishment or while each other. And since our system only requires a plurality, being a dominant majority isn't necessary.
You're right though that there is a significant anti-establishment movement within the party, or you could even argue there are multiple anti-establishment movements.
At the end of the day, none of it bodes well for the Republican Party in Presidential elections.
>>53020012 The Republican establishment is what's holding the party back from actually winning presidential elections, because everyone hates them and wants them to go away forever because they've fucked up everything all the time.
Replace their terrible Democrat-lite policies with Trump's populist protectionist America first platform, on top of Hillary being the most miserably weak candidate in decades, and you've got yourself a recipe for success.
>>53020202 They probably understand, which is why they tried to sabotage Rand Paul early on by having his campaign managers indicted the day after he announced, and since Ron Paul has been the populist favorite recently, they ignored Trump because they viewed Rand as the real threat.
Sadly, Rand was born without charisma, so Trump quickly ran away with the lion's share of populist sentiment, as the establishment sat back and waited for his support to go to Rand so they could unleash the rest of their dirty tricks on him, but oops, that never happened, and now Trump is going to win the nomination.
>>53019977 That could still actually happen here if the core of the Republican Party botches this election.
And the thing about our parties is that they are much more diverse in opinion and stances than parties in multiparty legislatures.
>>53019984 Could be. I'm just saying that either a Trump nomination or a Trump independent run basically guarantees a Democrat victory. A Trump nomination would necessitate an independent run by an establishment Republican, resulting in a split vote, and a Trump independent run would also result in a split vote. Basically the party hopes that he doesn't get the nomination AND he decides not to go independent. And that's just for starters. It goes beyond that when you really dive into the nitty-gritty electoral strategy details.
>>53020140 That's just false. The anti-establishment candidates have no chance of winning a presidential election because they drive away the middle-of-the-spectrum voters. It has been statistically proven that establishment candidates perform better in general elections.
>>53020464 I don't think the establishment has the support or the interest to launch a split vote run, and if they did they would basically give up control of the party from then on, as no one would ever trust them again.
No, it's going to be Trump, and nobody will actually go through with a 3rd party establishment run because they're a bunch of unlikable cucks with no friends.
Trump will get the nomination, more likely than not, and then bring out the gorillions of knives he's been sharpening for Hillary, slay her, and win with ease.
>>53020552 Reagan won by a hilarious amount, and he wasn't establishment. If you want to parade around Goldwater like it means anything, then I suggest you pick a guy who wasn't running against the incumbent that was sworn into office with the wife of our dead president at his side, and instead choose a less retarded example.
Trump is going to win, and he's going to win by a lot, because his platform is centered around the lower/middle class, while tossing a huge bone to businesses via tax cuts and lower regulations.
>>53020464 First of all, Trump is going to win the primary. Second, a republican candidate attempting to subvert that through running as an independent will not result in Trump and him getting a split vote. Nothing like that has ever happened in America's electoral history and it won't work now. Third, Trump is ahead in the polls relative to twice as many candidates as Hillary. Trump will win.
I say this completely unironically and with a great degree of confidence: Donald Trump will be America's next commander in chief.
>>53020692 The party as it is today sucks ass, and is hogging the good conservative values behind their wall of idiocy.
Nobody will be sad to see it go.
And yes, Trump will win, and he'll win by a lot. If you think he doesn't have an astonishingly high chance of winning the general then you're totally clueless as to his base of support, the peoples that turn out to vote for Democrats, and the mood of the country.
Enjoy getting BTFO so badly you'll need to get eyeballs in your asshole.
>>53020718 The ones that have predicted the race so accurately this year, right?
Trump is an insanely popular candidate right now. The only people who are really against him are people stuck in their echo chamber with a handful of others who think reality agrees with them when they're actually the completely negligible minority.
Honest to God reason why one of Trump's slogans is 'the silent majority'. Average Americans just relate to him better.
>>53020865 Except I've explained the electoral system in depth for both the primaries and general election. You have done neither. The ONLY way Trump even gets the nomination is if he wins an serious outright majority of the electoral primary votes, which is a crowded field is very very unlikely.
>>53020989 Holy nigger fucking christ, you're not even old enough to vote. General election polls mean literally nothing at this point and they never have in any election. Any general election poll that shows Hillary winning is bullshit. Any general election poll that show Trump or Cruz or Rubio or Sanders or whoever winning is also bullshit.
>>53021019 No, electoral college assumptions are based on the strong pattern that has existed since 1992.
>>53021019 Not in the primaries moron. Because as people drop out they hand any delegates they have accumulated over to other candidates of their choosing. The only way to basically guarantee a nomination is the win 60%+ of the state delegates, creating a margin that is too big to be overcome by intraparty nomination rules and changes.
>>53021095 Wanting to bring back jobs to a country with 94 million people out of work, and all net gains in employment going to immigrants doesn't really strike me as a lowest common denominator problem.
Even if it was, they're still Americans that we have to help, but I guess a bunch of sand niggers from Syria need it more and we have to pay for it with our tax dollars, or whatever the Democrat platform is.
>>53021118 The nominee only needs 50% +1 vote to lock it up for the Republicans. I think Trump will take it pretty easily, especially now that the others are busy destroying themselves as Trump makes moves on Hillary.
>>53021193 That's false if you're referring to the popular vote in the primaries. Even if they lock up 50%+1 of the electoral (read: not popular) primary votes, they can still easily not get the nomination because there are a lot of delegates not tied to the results of any state. In the primaries, you have to do well not only with state delegates but also with unbound superdelegates which the party (not the electorate) controls.
I don't disagree with a lot of Trump's ideas, but the man himself? It shows how disappointing is a real democracy/republic when you compare it to its ideal. Kanye 2020, whatever, just blow this fucking thing so we can move over the state of Western liberalism and embrace traditional organizations of society again.
>>53021248 Who, Trump? I wouldnt say he is loser, all that money, fame, hot chicks, celebrity status, power, connections etc...also he is serious candidate besides all internet memes! I would like him to win
>>53020140 >The Republican establishment is what's holding the party back from actually winning presidential elections, because everyone hates them and wants them to go away forever because they've fucked up everything all the time.
>Replace their terrible Democrat-lite policies with Trump's populist protectionist America first platform, on top of Hillary being the most miserably weak candidate in decades, and you've got yourself a recipe for success.
The Reagan strategy of tapping into white ressentiment won't work, because whites are a much smaller percentage of the electorate -- a problem that is only going to get worse as time goes on.
>>53021150 Wanting or intentions have nothing to do with it. Trump hasn't said anything about how he is going to achieve this, beyond "muh special tariffs". If he tries his corporate friends are going to cockblock him so hard that it would be funny if it wasn't tragic. And then all republicans/conservatives will pat his back and tell him "well atleast you tried".
Also, you have to be a real waste of flesh to get outskilled by a thirdworld inmigrant.
>>53021458 Trump's base is blue collar, aka the voting base of the Democrats.
Trump isn't even far right, or does that just mean guy-I-don't-like?
>>53021505 Digging up some dirt farming peasant from Indonesia to work for $.30 an hour isn't exactly getting outskilled, nor is dragging in 20 gorillion Mexican illegals to pay $5 a day under the table.
>>53021375 >>53021345 Thats what I thnk also, in general I like the way he talks because I think that all that political "corectnes" and liberality and trying not to "hurt" someone by saying something is becoming a real problem. Even bigger its becoming a real problem for white people and modern society. Tl;dr I dont like faggots and Trump doesnt like them either, that it is enough for me, I would give him a vote.
>>53021553 You are right, i phrased it wrong, "outskilled" isn't the word, convenient is. And you'd have to be silly to think that anyone pulling money from those inmigrants isn't going to throw cash to keep those inmigrants employed.
People will do all sorts of naughty political moves for a 200% profit margin.
>>53021721 Well yeah, but that doesn't mean we have to just let it happen on the scale it has been.
Having almost 100 million people out of work is like the worst thing to ever happen to this country, but nobody in charge even pretends to care. I'm surprised there aren't full scale riots directed at the government for this.
Just imagine what would happen if Trump, their champion, looked like he was going to win and suddenly someone killed him. The country would fall apart.
>>53021787 That is the thing anon. No one cares, because no one with money cares. Donald "Fuck poor people" Trump doesn't care either. You have to be silly to believe him, he is betting on the resentment that american people have, as soon as he gets in office you can be sure that he is going throw all those proud blue collar workers and sweaty southerners under the bus.
I unironically like Trump and his position on immigration (I think he's exaggerating to get a strong base) and I think once he gets the nomination he'll go straight liberal on drugs and fight for campaign finance reform. He says he wants to "shut down parts of the internet" and seems pretty pro surveillance, everything else is people buying into MSM bullshit though
>>53012496 >gobbling up propaganda this hard >literally speculating based on feels and blogs
You're in for a big disappointment m8. Well, you already should be disappointed given that every reliable quantitative measure indicates that blacks, democrats, and independents largely despise Trump. I mean fuck, my entire extended family has voted republican or conservative independent in every election for decades, and most of them are ready to vote for fucking Hillary over Trump. Shillary is more likely to implement conservative policies anyway, given that Trump's platform is almost entirely democrat aside from the immigrant shit he's using to romance sisterfucking rednecks.
>>53019920 Holy shit, you have no idea what you're talking about. Trump is successful because he's snagged the Tea Party ''''''''anti-establishment'''''''' vote and all of the fringe far-right groups. More centrist republicans, true neoliberals, and evangelists can't stand him because most of his policies are firmly democrat, and the rest are just an appeal to fear that only snags backwoods happeningfags afraid of le towelhead menace.
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