Iraqi PM Nouri Maliki: Russian jets will turn tide
>"I'll be frank and say that we were deluded when we signed the contract [with the US]," Mr Maliki said.
>He said Iraq was acquiring second-hand jet fighters from Russia and Belarus "that should arrive in Iraq in two or three days".
>We are greatly alarmed by what is happening in Iraq. We warned long ago that the affair that the Americans and the Britons stirred up there wouldn't end well," Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Wednesday,
This is merely a sign of how shit his regime has gotten, Airforces are conventionally the easiest branch of the military to control due to their relatively small numbers and class of personnel, with him falling bag on muh airplanes just shows that ISIS has him by the throat.
holy fuck i love russia
p obvious they want iraq under russian influence though like syria, but it's the price to pay to have stability
This means game over for America's dream of getting rid of Assad. Once Russia starts bombing, they won't stop until all anti-Assad forces are destroyed. Just like NATO did in Libya.
>Once Russia starts bombing, they won't stop until all anti-Assad forces are destroyed.
Please let this happen
That pipe dream ended a long time ago, the Lion has defeated the terrorists and imperialists.
Also yeah, the US is a terrible business partner when it comes to these things. Delays, delays, delays. One month, two months, three months, who knows? Russia's like clockwork and reliable. Good for the Iraqi government, hope they put them to good use and payback the SAA for its airsupport for the time being.
I really don't give 2 shits about Iraq or Afghanistan. We tried to give them our unique brand of freedom, but they just throw it away as soon as someone tries to take it away.
Ungrateful savages, the lot of em. They are happy to hide behind foreign troops but throw down their weapons as soon as they have to fight for themselves.
>Russians in charge of not being butthurt
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No it's not. The pronunciation is impossible without being in Russia or other such place. Even if you study for years you'll sound like a retard no matter how hard you try to spell things properly. At least that's what other Russians say. How true is it?
My friend from Syria lives in Moscow several years and speaks as well as we do. My friend from Saudi lived here for three months and speaks pretty nice.
>implying you are not an extension of the US
Well, they were training a dozen or so pilots in the US for the f-35's for quite some time now so they can certainly fill the gap. Also, I'm sure Iran can spare a couple. Besides, who even said they don't really have pilots?
>pilots in the US for the f-35's
lol no, we are training them for F-16s. We would never sell F-35s to Iraq. Iraq did fly migs back in the day but all those pilots are retired by now and they'll have to train new ones.
russia is th natural ally to the middle east, they are close culturally and loved in here
america sells it's allie...yet again
BASED PEWTEEN SEV WORLD AGAIN :DDDDDDDDDDDDD
>I thought he's gonna send troops.
>Apparently just Jets
TOP KEK. RUSSIA: FOREVER POSTURING.
Idk, seems like they can operate helicopters at least. And what's the deal with not having a lot of pilots? A dozen or working half the day would suffice imo.
What's your take on the matter? Do you really have no pilots or is it some sort of misunderstanding by Western media?
Also didn't buy mig-35 because Indian officers are dumbs.
My relative works in Rosoboronexport (organisation which export our weapon) so I know a lot of stories about their stupidity.
>no troops in Ukraine
>RUSSIA WHY YOU ARE SENDING TROOPS IN UKRAINE
>no troops in Iraq
>RUSSIA SEND TROOPS FASTER
Fuck FUCK FUCK WHERE IS YOUR LOGIC?
tantadher= is waiting for
i post it in sarcastic way as these "men" can't do shit
>What's your take on the matter? Do you really have no pilots or is it some sort of misunderstanding by Western media?
we have 10s of pilots training in usa for years
and many more locals who flew migs in the past in should do perfectly
>We are greatly alarmed by what is happening in Iraq. We warned long ago that the affair that the Americans and the Britons stirred up there wouldn't end well," Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Wednesday,
Based Russians try to warn us.
And we don't listen.
Then Iraq has to go to Russia to help them out with some aircraft. Maliki should just ask Russia to help them out with troops and military trainers and advisers too, obviously the American "help" is worth shit.
Dude, the US has been stalling for months now even though billions of dollars are involved. Delay from the Russian side is pretty infrequent. Iraq got its bunch of Russian helicopters on time last November.
Mind sharing some? Sounds interesting.
I hope and pray that you are correct comrade, but I know the traitors in Washington want to put in drone strikes and air attacks to "support Iraq" but what they really are going to do is "also strike Syria" which means strike Assad.
My country is the open scum and filth of the world.
So, just like Assad, Maliki plunges his country into civil war through insanely heavy-handed, authoritarian treatment of political opposition...and, just like Assad, edgy Putinboos and RIDF are suddenly gonna act like he's a good-governing savior?
>So, just like Assad, Maliki plunges his country into civil war through insanely heavy-handed, authoritarian treatment of political opposition...and, just like Assad, edgy Putinboos and RIDF are suddenly gonna act like he's a good-governing savior?
except he isn't heavy handed at all, he's a wimp
he even delayed terrorist executions for years till Isis broke into prisons and freed them recently
I knew I read about Iraqi pilots being trained by the US for some time. I don't think it would take too much time to learn to fly other not-so-modern aircraft once you get the basics. Then again I can't really attest to that, though I'm sure they have the appropriate pilots for the aircraft they ordered. Where's your evidence that they can't fly anything what they've ordered?
Obama's so recalcitrant and stupid it's really annoying to watch.
You should spell it out clearly because I don't know what you mean. My understanding is the American traitors will pretend they are sending advisers to help you, but they will really be leading a coup to topple Maliki, and replace him with another puppet, one who will betray Assad.
>Never ever ever ever trust an American
>Find your help and support among Russians, based Iran and Syrians
You're an open liar on Syria. I have to assume you are doing the same on Iraq, but I can't be sure yet as I am unable to read the whole Maliki thing and what he's doing. I suspect he's a bit of a dumb-ass bumbler more than a heavy-hand sectarian. (but I really can't tell on his dumb ass)
Thank God for Putin, Iran and Assad and now Russia, they give me the great pleasure of seeing idiots like you get destroyed and thwarted.
Firstly, sorry for awful English.
Epic story with T-90 (Russian tanks)
>Algeria wants to buy our tanks
>Russia, we need tanks suitable for hot temperatures
>Algeria, do you need improving qualification level of your tank engineers? We can help
>Yeah, Russia, plz
Algeria bought and now happy.
>India wants to buy our tanks
>Russia, we need tanks
>India, do you need tanks suitable for hot temperatures
>No, fuck off, Russia
>India, do you need improving qualification level of your engineers? We can help
>No fuck off, Russia
>after a couple of months
>Russia, why our tanks can't work in high temperatures and why out tank engineers can't repair them
Fucking Indian logic.
>except he isn't heavy handed at all, he's a wimp
>exclude Sunnis from government completely
>turn a blind eye to Shia militarism because payback
>be surprised when people are mad
Whatever he is, he's fucking retarded and could have easily prevented this. Our policy towards new governments doesn't help, but you can only use that excuse for so long. If you are willing to tell the US to fuck off so you can get your Russian fighters, surely you could've done the same to get a unity government if necessary.
Don't worry about me Schlomo, worry about your own country.
>You're an open liar on Syria.
I don't even know what to say to someone this delusional. I guess I'm just grateful that your stuffing your face with cheetos and lurking 4chan and not out actually interacting with people.
That's bullshit, we don't show you as OMG EBIL AMERICUNZ in movies. Russia is more than ready to cooperate with USA in important matters but on equal terms.
It's just that 20 years of dominance without serious rival made you a bit overconfident and short sighted.
It's just the quintessential teenager that discovered the world through /pol/. I'd advise you not to respond to him unless you want some merchant pics or something
Cold War never ended man, it just receded.
>Then again I can't really attest to that, though I'm sure they have the appropriate pilots for the aircraft they ordered. Where's your evidence that they can't fly anything what they've ordered?
I have to guess and assume here that Iraq still has plenty of pilots from the Saddam era who are checked out on Migs. If they can get those guys out of retirement they shouldn't have any problems getting the "new, old Migs" up in the air.
>Obama's so recalcitrant and stupid it's really annoying to watch.
He's been dragging his feet on bombing Syria (thank God) but remember, that we (the jews who rule the USA) took twenty years to take out Saddam and destroy Iraq, but they did it, and the destruction is continuing right before our eyes today. Also remember That Obomba took out Qaddafi quickly. He is willing to act, but just in his own way on his own time. Don't even think about sleeping comrade.
Well, no, actually.
Take a read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_parliamentary_election,_2014
Figures seem pretty reasonable to me:
Shiites 170/328 seats: 51%.
Sunnis (Arab): 43/328; 13%
Sunnis (Kurds): 19%
Everybody else (including secular and independent): 17%.
Shiites got 51% while they represent 65% of the population, and Sunnis got 24% while they represent 35% of the population. Honestly, I don't see any foulplay. I hate to admit it, but sectarianism has been fanned quite a bit by the Gulf states to expand their hegemony over the region. Namely the KSA, and to a slightly lesser extent Qatar. Hate to say it, but It's very easy to make Sunnis butthurt over the smallest thing and make them perceive it as oppression if the rhetoric is based on sectarianism or religion in general.
And from hanging around on various news sites, many Iraqis see Maliki as a wimp like the Iraqi ITT said. I thought they'd be happy when Maliki said the KSA is sponsoring terrorism and that it should stop, but everybody was pissed at him for taking so long to say it. He's trying his best. This whole thing looks like propaganda to me, honestly.
They're very confident of themselves, which will serve them well. Still though, lol. At least aircraft production and purchasing is going fine with them right?
I dont think our countries want the uncontrollable spread of the nuclear or any other WMD for example.
I don't think our countries like terrorism, at least near our own borders. These are mutual interests. Also, space.
>What is the Wolfowitz doctrine comrade?
My country will never "cooperate with you" because they want to destroy Russia. Period. Look at what Nudelman/Kagan are doing to you right now in Ukraine. The jews who rule us have Russia as a target, something to destroy. Nothing has changed since 1917.
Nudelman/Kagan are Russian jews too, your worst enemies. Wolfowitz is a jew obviously. Victoria Nudelman, a NWO jew and obviously a poison and enemy of America, is undersectretary of state for European affairs. (for the USA)
I remember when Putin made a speech at the G8 saying that the Syrian rebels were savages and we were playing with fire by supporting them, and the entire assembled press and politicians of Britain laughed at him.
They're not laughing anymore.
After that we shouldn't have any business with that dumbs.
Proof or fuck off.
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The same shit with aircraft. And with development.
>Russia, let's develop anything
After a couple of months
>Russia, what have you done?
>This, this and that. And what have you done, India?
>Bad Russia you haven't told me your industry secrets
>but everybody was pissed at him for taking so long to say it.
>I have to guess and assume here that Iraq still has plenty of pilots from the Saddam era who are checked out on Migs. If they can get those guys out of retirement they shouldn't have any problems getting the "new, old Migs" up in the air.
Lol. Hopefully that's true and there are more pilots on the way. Shit's real fucked up meng.
>Don't even think about sleeping comrade.
Everybody knows this. I don't for a second think that Maliki trusts Obama in the slightest. Eh, the times we're living in.
>Please don't let the truth out, let's keep to our jewish NWO talking points comrades.
Dear Russia and Syria and Iran: can you see why your winning and raping these fucking jews gives me so much pleasure???
You two (or one) imbeciles are more likely to be junk-food eating cows than I am.
>exclude Sunnis from government completely
that's stupid, the government forces that deserted in Mosul were sunni,
the military academy has a quota on sunni-shia officers
each province has it's funding share based on number of citizens including all sunni provinces
provide a source that sunnis were excluded
>>turn a blind eye to Shia militarism because payback
no he didn't
in fact all the shia militias were disbanded in 2008
including a large assault on basrah to distroy mahdi army ordered by almaliki
>>be surprised when people are mad
not really surprised
Sunnis were mad in Algeria and killed half a million even though the country is 100% sunni
sunnis are mad in Egypt even though he country is 90% sunny with no minority participation in government
that's how sunnis roll
USA Just approved another 500 million for the terrorists in Syria (the ones we are going to pretend to fight in Iraq)
In my country the only terrorists we want to destroy is you comrade.
>I dont think our countries want the uncontrollable spread of the nuclear or any other WMD for example.
Hence why I said almost none.
>I don't think our countries like terrorism, at least near our own borders. These are mutual interests.
We don't have to worry about Muslim extremism being near us for the most part, we just have to worry about it crashing the energy market. Which would be great for Russia, it would hugely elevate your global influence.
No one cares about space any more. Just as well, I suppose.
Putin and his warm water port really could not be considered an impartial source, and he had done nothing to dissuade suspicions that it wasn't simply realpolitik.
Now we have the Ukraine situation and I'm not sure those politicians stopped laughing.
Wait wait wait, congress actually approved it? Every link I go through says Obama just asked with no answer out of congress still. Would be so fucking disappointing.
It was the now-fossilized FSA that welcomed Nusra to fight their battles for them because they couldn't since foreign revolutions oftentimes don't work. And that welcomed ISIS. They were assbuddies for a while with ISIS and Nusra spearheading most of the advances. ISIS and Nusra currently merged in many parts of the country.
He's an American, unless there are corporations financing election campaigns to the tune of millions of pounds, it's not a free and fair election for him.
If Russia had sent any troops into Ukraine they would now be kicking Poroshekels head around like a soccer ball in Kiev comrade. The imaginary Kiev Junta army can't even beat a thrown-together militia of volunteers and veterans.
This is so glorious to see the jews finally lose on all fronts.
Never sleep comrades, because your enemies are playing for keeps, and they don't stop just because you win one or two wars.
They really have stopped laughing, at least publicly. Honestly, the British political class are falling over themselves to disavow any interventionist policies now, I believe the only politician who hasn't actually said the iraq War was a colossal mistake is Big Tone himself, and he's generally assumed to be a complete maniac now. The days of naked neoconservatism are well and truly dead. Now begins glorious isolationism.
It's hard to say. It's an election year so congress will make a point of prostrating, but at the end of the day nearly everyone there likes to spend the most money as possible on anything military-related.
That's definitely topical
>The days of naked neoconservatism are well and truly dead. Now begins glorious isolationism.
A bit of history m8, it's always the same in both our countries. Someone is cooking up new casus belli as we speak.
Oh you're talking about Iraq? Yeah most of out politicians have distanced themselves from that now.
It was actually more newsworthy here (fuck I hate US media) that one of the conservative talking heads (Glenn Beck) said the liberals here were right in saying Iraq was a bad idea.
US politics are so god damn chaotic these days.
There is no Russian threat. We are the threat. This time Russia isn't weak, and Russia isn't led by an idiot (Yeltzin) that's the difference, that's why you see Russia not losing and you see Russia not backing down on anything.
Thank God Russia is back and thank God for Vladimir Putin.
Vladimir....................Kosovo, it's not too late comrade......
Unless they have some unholy plan to get involved in other countries (like, 9/11 tier), I think we can safely say that the interventionist policies of the last decade will never happen again. The West couldn't even conduct air strikes on Syria, when at the beginning of the century they could invade multiple countries within a few years.
>There is no Russian threat.
>This time Russia isn't weak, and Russia isn't led by an idiot (Yeltzin) that's the difference, that's why you see Russia not losing and you see Russia not backing down on anything.
>I think we can safely say that the interventionist policies of the last decade will never happen again.
People say this at the end of every war that goes sideways. Just give it a few years, you'll see.
The home of the Free, indeed.
Nah, this time there's nothing they can do. Too many fronts open, too little (if any) allies left and an economy indebted to the max and in shambles.
>I think we can safely say that the interventionist policies of the last decade will never happen again
I just don't know what to say. The military and intelligence branches of our government receive trillions of dollars specifically for the purpose of fucking around. Similarly, the population is largely convinced that said spending is more important than domestic issues like infrastructure or social services.
The UK may take that path, but there's no chance in hell the US is going that way without something extremely powerful happens that dishevels our government and population in a truly profound way.
The 3-state solution that people talked about for years before even the 2003 invasion is happening by itself. Why try to keep the artificial construct Iraq alive when it has never proven to be stable unless it has a Stalinesque dictator. Let the Shias, Sunnis and Kurds fight this one out and draw the borders where the fronts stabilize.
>President Barack Obama has asked the US Congress to approve $500m (£294m) to train and equip what he described as "moderate" Syrian opposition forces.
>The funds would help Syrians defend against forces aligned with President Bashar al-Assad, the White House said.
>The aid would also counter Islamist militants such as the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (Isis), it added.
>Isis's advance in neighbouring Iraq has led some in Congress to press Mr Obama to take action.
Yeah like "sending another $500 million to ISIS in Syria". That's some solid action there Mr. Traitor.
>Tens of thousands of people have died and millions more have been displaced in three years of civil war in Syria, as rebels fight troops loyal to Mr Assad.
>"This funding request would build on the administration's longstanding efforts to empower the moderate Syrian opposition, both civilian and armed," the White House said.
This means-- Sending money to ISIS and al Ciada.
>It will also "enable the Department of Defense to increase our support to vetted elements of the armed opposition".
If they do or if they don't approve this bill, it still means they are funding and arming the anti-Assad terrorists in Syria the whole time. This is the biggest fake phoney war ever fought.
>Pretend to fight ISIS in Iraq
>Openly arming, funding and training ISIS in Jordan and Syria
Sorry jew, the world is waking up to the real threat.
Hah! Not far-fetched at all.
Why's this guy so fucking hellbent on screwing the ME beyond repair for the coming half century.
May I say, gee, I wonder why, maybe? That's a can of worms I'd rather not open though if you get my drift. And yeah exactly, a couple of battles won here and there won't do much. There's always the possibility of a hard-hitting sucker-punch. No one's sleeping 'round here.
Isn't the government and congress seen as huge problems with handling tax-payer money? It's like they're not aware of the US public's discontent at all. Then again, maybe Iraq and Syria are seen as a quick buck, but I doubt the public would support anything in the ME anymore.
That said, the higher ups will get their way regardless of anybody else's wishes, see:
>Europe saw the biggest mobilization of protesters, including a rally of three million people in Rome, which is listed in the Guinness Book of Records as the largest ever anti-war rally.
And they still barebacked.
Violence was expected, and there was a lot of violence in Egypt and Afghanistan too and those elections were accepted pretty much unequivocally by Western governments. It's just that they decide who's legitimate or not, and we've grown to learn that they're pretty Machiavellian in nature, so, eh.
I agree with this being the best solution.
It will be messy, but it was how things were done for thousands of years in that region.
We made the borders and they clearly don't work.
You have no idea how many Americans are coming around, and think the same way comrade.
I have felt this way the whole time, but now my comrades here are coming around too.
Maybe, but in Britain there is some serious anger over Iraq and Afghanistan. We were always a lot more against the Iraq War than America was, the media as pretty much united against it, unlike America, plus we didn't have 9/11 to get us riled up for war. We were pretty much dragged kicking and screaming into the middle-east by our politicians and the people have not forgiven them, I don't think they ever will.
I mean, look at Syria for example. I watched Parliament debate whether we should intervene live and the number one argument against it every time was Iraq. That was before ISIS, before any of this shit. It was bad then, now it's going to be worse.
Unless MI6 blow up Buckingham Palace or the Argies decide to have a go again, the British army is going nowhere,
I don't know about America, things are very different. But I do know that, right now, as a British politician, saying that you're going to fuck around in the middle east is pretty much career destroying stuff. British press hates it, British people hate it.
>Isn't the government and congress seen as huge problems with handling tax-payer money?
Its approval rating is the lowest it's been in a century if not longer: 7%.
Everyone hates them and wishes them painful deaths, but the two-party system is ingrained too deep, and our people are too stupid and ignorant.
>Saviour of the white race
Post under your own flag you wretched jew.
>there was a lot of violence in Egypt and Afghanistan too and those elections were accepted pretty much unequivocally by Western governments.
Hence what I'm getting at, those were fraudulent as well.
Well, Egypt was, Afghanistan just doesn't even have the infrastructure to have what we recognize as elections, even fraudulent ones.
In the US, protests were almost solely the providence of the left- with the politicians and media berating them for hating freedom and America. Conservatives were for the war, of course, but the so-called liberals in the Democratic party were just as eager for it.
"With us or against us" was a particularly famous phrase used by them.
Thanks you based Assad.
>In the US, protests were almost solely the providence of the left- with the politicians and media berating them for hating freedom and America.
This is the fundamental difference between the US and UK in the Iraq War. The media in the UK were united against it, the politicians were united for it. Politicians went through with it anyway, now they are being completely destroyed in the press,
They pretend they aren't sending the money to ISIS, so they can have deniability. But this war has two sides-- Assad/SAA and the al-Ciada rebels.
We, hah, "we" are sending money and weapons to the al-Ciada side, which includes ISIS. (While pretending to fight the same side in Iraq) The whole war is a giant CIA web of lies.
Has the US government, ever told the truth, about anything, ever??
Witnesses stated Assad personally flew jets against ISIS, jumped out and engaged them in hand to hand combat, slaying hundreds, and the prophet (pbuh) himself came down from heaven and blessed him forever.
Long live Based Assad the lion of syria.
>ISIS takes over IRaq
>"Wee need to do something but we don't know what...."
>Assad DOES something
>ANOTHER SHOAAAA ASSAD STILL A TREAT FOR AMERIFREEDOMS WE NEED TO STOP HIM.."
>Don't you dare attack ISIS, oops, I mean, our "enemies" ISIS, Syria, or else!!
This stupid war for Israel just keeps getting faker and faker. I think the whole ISIS fiasco was created by the CIA to give us an excuse to finally bomb Assad. Hopefully Russia is paying attention and able to totally rape the disgusting vile traitor jews who rule us again, like in Crimea.
There is nothing this man cannot do.
>On the diplomatic front, British Foreign Secretary William Hague arrived in Baghdad to urge Iraqi politicians to unite against the "existential threat" from the Sunni insurgents.
>Hague said the country must form an inclusive government across sectarian lines to unite Iraqis against ISIS.
Non-bongs ITT, this man is a fucking joke in Britain. He was the first politician in 100 years to be leader of a party and never win an election. Do not take anything he says seriously.
>Nah, this time there's nothing they can do. Too many fronts open, too little (if any) allies left and an economy indebted to the max and in shambles.
That's what over a decade of constant wars does to your economy. But at least the military-industrial companies profited, right?
>afraid of Russia nad Iraq becoming friendly
Yes. Time to arm ISIS with anti-aircraft missiles before jets wrecked them.
Confirmed for being ignorant as always and never hearing about conservatives in US.
didn't work out very well in either world war
unlike vietnam, isis actually poses are large threat in the middle east and WILL spread. they already control nearly every major city (with the exception of baghdad) in iraq, and a decent amount of syria too iirc
Have poles every fought their own wars? In both world wars they cried and whined for british, french or murkan help while getting assfucked, then once the war is done they lick the ass of whoever gives them the most crumbs.
Fucking embarrassing. Poland used to be cool when it was a real power and not a joke of a nation that bows to everyone willing to offer it crumbs.
The funniest delusion people here have is that voting actually does something.
How are we bad guys? The US government doesn't even need authorization from the people at all to start their wars. The government is basically a foreign force funded by the highest bidder, with nothing in common with actual Americans.
They represent Israel more than me ffs.
>I think the whole ISIS fiasco was created by the CIA
>yfw it was created by none other than Bashar the Lion
>implying votes matter
>implying the true ruling establishment can be voted out by plebs in elections
Next you'll be telling us tha America is a democracy, land of the free and etc...
Kerry is the king of hypocrites. You should have seen how he started crying crocodile tears about ukraine and crimea while screaming that the wars in iraq and afghanistan or libya don't justify crimean referendum.
If Romney the super-puppet of Israel had won, we would already be exchanging nuclear weapons and been radio-active ash-heap years ago comrade.
Obomba has kept us out of a hot war with Russia at least, until now.
nebogano, signed associate membership deal today, feels gud
As long as we're rich, there won't be a revolution. Once the debts pile up enough for us to enter into another Great Depression, well I wish the bankers and the politicians good luck. I'm sure they won't mind hanging from a tree.
THE ENTIRE MIDDLE EAST + NORTH AFRICA +SPAIN IS UNDER ISIS
THEY'RE MASSING TO INVADE FRANCE AND THE FRENCH GOVERNMENT IS HAVING TALKS ABOUT SURRENDERING
PREPARE YOU ANUS
Because we continue to sit around and let the government do these things. At least the Euro's raise a fuss about it. Give people one hour of Duck Dynasty and the country forgets about it's problems for the week.
This country is literally becoming more retarded. It's ok to be apathetic and not care about politics, but it's a whole other level to get your tax dollars blown on the most stupid shit for no purpose.
>Middle class complains about economy
>Gov is unaware entirely of demands, no fucks given
>Middle class continues to bitch
>Election Season, candidates roll out lie-filled agenda and campaign
>Middle class and every other gullible fuck jumps bandwagon
>Muh freedom, muh irrelevant and worthless elections
>Government still doesn't spend any many in infrastructure or social services/education
>Gov y u suk
Fuck this country. I'm just waiting for an orbital bombardment to end the misery. I'm not the smartest man on Earth, but it is torture to bear such fucking absurd amounts of delusion from the people around me.
why do you hate jews?
because they are smart enough to concentrate money and power in their hands?
do the same and compete with them kek
dance of my people for this antisemitic thread
Do you believe we are sending anything to the FSA at all?
If/when something like 2008 banking crash happens again, either something drastic will happen then or it never will.
The wealth inequality here is severe and extremely vulnerable, it's a powder keg.
>do the same and compete with them kek
>by signing up to the EU and having you resources and skilled workforce stripped out from underneath you
Hahahahah no. My life is reserved as a gimp for bankers until I have enough and decide to leave forever. I'm not ready for that yet.
The SJW Libtards are cancer, and the Suburb Conservatives are garbage. Social climate is utter trash, don't get me started on the obsession with networking between people. Ugh.
Apocalypse now pls
Mark my words, nothing will happen. The bankers and hyper-wealthy will sit and watch everyone starve before they get dragged out of their homes. They'll probably just emigrate when the country goes off the deep end and hits a super-recession. We'll be fucked on our patch of despair, and they'll be living it up somewhere else until it's time to strip the wealth of others.
>because they are smart enough to concentrate money and power in their hands?
I acknowledge this and agree with above statement.
>do the same and compete with them kek
Unfortunately I'm an American Christian, and the rest of the Christians in this country are staggering imbeciles more eager to please Israel and the jews than work to advance any Christian cause.
If American Christians ever "worked together" it would be to serve Israhell.
>Don't worry Moldava, this time next year we'll be gorillionaires just like France and Switzerland.
>All we hav' to do is join the EU, innit?
He gets more based everyday.
It makes me want to puke sometimes, honestly. They just don't GET IT, or are paid to feign ignorance and fuck the region up some more. I just watched a short excerpt from Hague's speech here ( http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e88_1403829949&comments=1 ) and you know, I just felt like banging my head on the wall a couple of times to deal with the unbearable, inconceivable, levels of ignorance and hypocrisy coming out of that his mouth. The UK, US, and France, are all in line spouting the exact same thing without acknowledging any facts whatsoever, and just going on with their duplicitous rhetoric unhinged like psychopaths. If this war is going to end, it requires at least one of these 3 to back down or change their tone in some way or the other. Otherwise it can go on indefinitely, much to the chagrin of EVERYBODY here in the region (except the KSA and Qatar, but the former has started to realized the chickens are coming home to roost).
>Assad created the conditions to thrive ISIS [FSA welcomed them and they spearheaded most of their advances] so UK and other countries must step-up support for 'moderate' rebels[terrorists]
I'm just really glad the British people told Cameron to ditch military intervention, for the time being at least.
Any change in the situation brah, or good omens lurking about?
Was thinking of this the other day and I was pretty glad actually. He would have went balls-deep.
About 1/3 of the country I think, and around 2/5th of Syria +the only provincial capital to fall outside government hands/Raqqah.
>We'll be fucked on our patch of despair, and they'll be living it up somewhere else until it's time to strip the wealth of others.
Once things stabilize those that fled and robbed us would be systematically hunted down and killed probably. And no one's going to protect them. Their best bet would be to pretend they're not the ones responsible.
I'm pessimistic. If and if there ever arose the need for an angry mob, I'd be the first one to volunteer, pitchfork and gasoline in hand. Fuck the cunts leeching on this country, and fuck the idiots letting it happen.
I can always move somewhere else I guess. Any Rusbro's know how expensive it is to live in Kandalaksha or Murmansk?
jewish population is like 2-3% of US population
any problems to compete with them?
>Kandalaksha or Murmansk
I am not sure that it is easy to find there work if you had finished foreign university and English-speaking.
You can try big cities. But flats are extremely fucking expensive.
Hague actually creeps me out so much. I don't think he is human.
Nah, but seriously he is fucking insane. They all are, the way they talk. It's like they have no perception of how they sound, it's like they think they are talking to people with no idea of the world. It's finished though, with the internet, social media, they can't pull the wool over the public's eyes anywhere near as easily as they could before. That's why we're seeing all this NSA shit, it's an unknown quantity that they can't control and they hate that.
when a small group of people are so nepotic as to commit incest to keep their money at times or use the holy holocaust every time they're criticized, it's rather hard to lose in a 'multicultural" divided society
At this point why wouldn't you side with Russia?
Why the hell would ANYONE want to side with the US?! I seriously think we're threatening people under the table so us plebs don't know about it.
well at least the new generation of politicians wouldn't be israel firters
but politics in essence will never change, at best they'll just become accountable and have the same views as other murkans
I won't be looking for luxurious housing, nor even decent. Anything works as long as I'm not surrounded by gypsies. I kinda think that Murmansk would be my ideal place to visit/live in. Cold weather, dreary industrial environment, seems right up my alley.
Fuck this endless rows of boxes we call suburbs.
i dunno, absolute monarchy was kinda tried and failed
we need new systems, we have the internet now, we can have virtual cyberocracy or a very decentralized govt where even if it's corrupt, it'd just hurt its own credibility more than anyone else
all big governments are corrupt, but there's differences in corruption
but who's canada to talk? your govt follows and engages in the same corruption like dogs following their master
I'll look it up. Anywhere works. I'm not pure anything so I'll find a way to fit in without looking for a home culture. Tatarstan to Karelia, anything works.
While I'm searching up the town you mention, any other good places to work in the middle of nowhere with engineering? Electrical would be my specialty.
Good that we have only 2 metro lines but bolis still prevented a couple of terror attacks in the past 2 years.
fuggen terrodist ids to lade :DDDD
Americans get your government together holy shit. You can't even make this up.
syria has been screwing with lebanon and taking over lebanese parliament for a long time now.
Orthodox christian nationalist lebs dislike Assad's regime, but accept it as a lesser evil than Al-Qaeda. Hezbollah-aligned lebs want to suck his dick. Mountain autonomous lebs support his fight against Al-Qaeda
May be ??? (institute of scientific researches), but some problems can exist, because they pay tiny salary.
I think you should choose town first and search for work after that.
But engineer is very good job, you can exchange experience with our specialists. May be you'll become teacher in university, it is real too.
Didn't catch you.
This is true, His dad was turned the country into a vessel state. He was just slightly better but still pretty bad and was hated by the majority. He currently has overwhelming support, something that would get you laughed at if you had said something like this to any Lebanese ten years ago.
Sounds gooby. I'm only bothering since it's nice to have a place to visit if I find things boring over here. So many exchange students that bought the kool-aid and think our portion of the country is as awesome as event-jammed park in New York. Fucking shitters.
When I go I'll make sure to learn the language and be productive. I wouldn't plan on living in Russia, but staying there for some years would be nice.
Plus I'm close enough to the Baltics to visit if i end up in Karelia/Kola.
>Politicians are going get ripped to shreds in the media tomorrow
Don't you get it? The media is the main reason why politicians act like they do. No one that the establishment likes is going to be ripped to shreds. At best you get a fall guy, at worst the media will write about the BNP or UKIP to divert your attention from real issues.
Nah, the media here is actually pretty good on foreign policy. They're already taking the politicians to task over Iraq. There's really nothing they like more than exposing hypocrisy in international politics, mostly because it won't affect them or their consumers very much.
This week in American Foreign Policy:
>Assad is evil
>Assad's opposition ISIL is also evil
>Lets fund ISIL
>Lets bomb ISIL
>Assad how dare you bomb ISIL
>ISIL here have some money and MANPADS and CIA training
>ISIL is a terrorist organisation must be stopped
The only "media" that rips them to shreds is free media - Liveleak, 4chan, etc.
Any television channel or newspaper except for based RT will keep sucking dick
>Both sides are absolutely cancerous.
>Both the US/RU governments are lobbied out of the ass and corrupt.
YET CANADA IS ALWAYS ALONG FOR THE RIDE WITH AMERICA NO MATTER WHAT.
WHAT A GREAT HAT YOU MAKE!
>implying who ever replaces him won't be as much of a dog
do you think we're going to let an anti-murkan interest govt ever take hold near us?
we're hypocrites m8, we understand why Russia is pissed off in ukraine, but we don't care
>Ukrainian government is going to organize anti-Russian gay parade in Kiev
>america sells it's allie.
It's funny any country would ever trust America?
I mean the even backstopped the British during the Suez crisis and again in the Falkland war
During the Muhammad cartoon thing crisis the basically told we to fuck off while the burnt down our embassies, even though we have supported them in all their retarded Middle Eastern adventures
Make deal with Libya to cancel nuclear program bomb them 2 years later
And now they refuse to aid Iraq, when their al Quida allies in Syria is causing trouble.
Also WHat is wrong with that country???? Spend trillions of dollars, 10 years and cause millions of death on their war on terror.....
Then 2011-2014 lol lets support al quida in Syria what could possible go wrong...
>Is Ukraine still exist? Pls respond
Ukraine includes also Donestk, Lugansk, Crimea. Those provinces are gone, independent, or back to Mother Russia. What's left of "Ukraine" is a Kosher Coup in Kiev and their US masters.
Amen brother. Britain was first. Without you the traitors in the White House may have already been bombing Syria.
I honestly have no idea.
People are willing to switch allegiance in one second-- for example to al Qaeda, if the talking heads on the TV tell them to.
>Assad is literally fighting against Al-Qaeda, alone.
>LET'S HALP THE SYRIAN 'REBELS!"
>Both sides are absolutely cancerous.
>Both the US/RU governments are lobbied out of the ass and corrupt.
THIS IS JEWISH DAMAGE CONTROL MESSAGE.
Tries to divert western opinion once we start waking up to the fact that we are the bad guys and we have become slaves of Israel.
If you look at our ("our") true strategy in Iraq/Syria/Iran as per PNAC document and Yinon/Greater Israel project, you see that all those actions are very strategic to our ("our") aims there:
To destabilize, balkanize, and destroy the above listed countries for Israel.
I don't think countries so much "trust America" it's more like "let's go along with them and hope we're not the ones they bomb at the present time."
When all these mideast countries are going to be fish-food for Israel, at our hands.
Why would they do this?
They are acting really crazy since recently.
Maybe we shouldn't have take Crimea. Or maybe we can gib them money and they will calm down, or something.
No-- you need Crimea to have your warm water (baltic/black whatever) sea fleet there. Russia without Crimea is not a world power, just local boys. Putin grabbing Crimea, (or welcoming Crimea back) was a master chess move, by the King of strategy.
With Crimea safely back in the loving arms of Mother Russia, now you can squabble and fight, but in East Ukraine. Crimea isn't even in doubt or in question anymore, you got it comrade.
And you will never give it back.
Czechmate fucking jew retards.
>The entire world should thank Russia for giving us Putin.
>No-- you need Crimea to have your warm water (baltic/black whatever) sea fleet there. Russia without Crimea is not a world power, just local boys. Putin grabbing Crimea, (or welcoming Crimea back) was a master chess move, by the King of strategy.
Russia already controlled the Black Sea port and already had a military base there.
Fun fact: Crimea was the most money-draining part of Ukraine and relied on subsidies from Kiev to stay afloat. Now Russia has to pay for that.
oh m8 that's been common knowledge for years. The funny thing now is that ISIL is being more successful than the CIA planned and so they're rushing to reign in what is still essentially a controlled and funded "rebellion".
How its been for the last 20 years (think Egypt, Libya, Syria, Iraq):
Step 1. If an arab country has a functioning government, destroy it by funding rebels
Step 2. Install a shitty government that cant control its people and send in US military to "train" the new military, but really just get them to guard US strategic assets
Step 3. When shitty government eventaully gets overthrown or is threatened by a functioning one, go back to step 1 (egypt soon)
-110,000 Ukrainians have fled to Russia since regime change
-Crimea is Russian now
-Whole east is Russian aligned and for the sake of this argument, is defacto Russian
There's not much Ukraine left.
The few crazies that are left behind are doing stupid things, and have a russia-hate boner. There's nothing you can do to bring the crazy's back. I say just spend some gov't money giving free relocation of ukrainians who want to stick with russia to some border towns, and then in a couple of years when Rasmussen retires return their rightful clay by force.
>>The entire world should thank Russia for giving us Putin.
It wouldn't be much longer after US performed this maidan coup.
I've seen your posts itt and in another threads earlier, would you like to discuss related things sometimes ? If so, mind sharing your contacts ? Like fake acc in social networks or email ?
>Russia already controlled the Black Sea port and already had a military base there.
The Kiev Kosher Coup was going to scrap Russia's lease on Crimea and literally evict the Russian navy, from their own historical Russian port of Crimea. Reason Putin had to act so fast. Massive insane Russian/Putin win on this one.
>Fun fact: Crimea was the most money-draining part of Ukraine and relied on subsidies from Kiev to stay afloat. Now Russia has to pay for that.
Meaningless to the overall strategic importance of Russia having Crimea. Now also the $90 million dollar lease Russia was paying to Kiev is obsolete now that Crimea is Russian clay again.
The Kosher Coup in Kiev (Nudelman/Kagan strategy to weaken Russia) was massively czech-mated and counter-punched by Putin.
This is such a massive Russian win the entire US strategic team should anhero but since they live in a world of deception and lies, they just continue as if nothing matters.
lol they got fucking raped.
Thank God for Vladimir the Just of Russia.
>It wouldn't be much longer after US performed this maidan coup.
But don't you get it? If it was a coup and the new Ukrainian government tried to take your military base and port, you would have 100% legitimate reasons to go in with your military and annex Crimea, and no one would have the right to complain.
Yeah, Crimea is matter, still don't idealize Putin, he is actually thief(at least his friends are thieves, it is proven) and all this story not about the world dominance, or something, but about gas-trading. Putin want trade cheap gas with Europe. USA want trade expensive gas with Europe. Europe want to buy cheap gas, but they(maybe) afraid of Russia's invasion(which DEFINITELY will not happen).
So Russia will try to make peace with Ukraine, USA will pretend to don't notice it, and propose more sanctions on gas-trading, and Europe will try to avert any sanctions on gas-trading.
Crimea - yes, seems like it was about fleet.
>you would have 100% legitimate reasons to go in with your military and annex Crimea, and no one would have the right to complain.
Say that to Assad bombing ISIL
Say that to Gaddaffi when he was fighting Al-Qaeda
You have to understand that foreign policy is literally about saying black is white and having everyone nod and clap vigorously when you do so.
Reason and logic means nothing; truth has no place in foreign policy decisions.
>There's nothing you can do to bring the crazy's back. I say just spend some gov't money giving free relocation of ukrainians who want to stick with russia to some border towns, and then in a couple of years when Rasmussen retires return their rightful clay by force.
Rasmussen the clown is cruisin for a bruisin. In my opinion, Vlad is playing a complicated game in Ukraine. He could easily roll into Novorossiya and grab it back in a day, but he is also playing for alliance with France/Germany over their American/HATO alliances. America wants to paint Adolf Putin as the "new Hitler" to fortify HATO reason to even exist long past its due date. (and to extend and strengthen the cold war and military contracts and occupations etc)
Second goal or end is Putin wants to keep the entire Ukraine favorable to Russia and more within the Russian sphere than EU sphere. So the man is on a tightrope with no easy solutions.
All we can do is watch history unfold......
My money is on comrade Putin and glorious Mother Russia.
my money is on NATO seeing as Ukraine has already FTA'd with EU and is gonna join. But in doing so it's lost half its country so its not like its the same Ukraine joining the EU that it was a year ago. Missing half the country, missing tonnes of population that have emmigrated, etc.
>sorry comrade my fear of doxing
But I will fight on for the Rodina
Your comment confirms my opinion, that Vlad is playing a complicated game, much more complicated and nuanced than just "grabbing Donetsk and Lugansk" back. But as you said, about gas and European trade and friendship.
Putin wants it. Not just some more clay in Novorossiya.
But understanding all that, I hope he doesn't betray the Donbas people, that would break my heart.
It's not worth it, to betray your soul and your own people and your own blood, just for increased trade and wealth with wealthy Western Europe.
>truth has no place in foreign policy decisions.
Agree with your entire comment, but the "perception of truth" is important, who can control the propaganda message and the minds of the sheeple is important. (truth itself has long been discarded in the west)
ahh fuckin' psaki
I always enjoy watching her speeches to laugh at her.
And that godly AP reporter who rips into her every time.
Maybe they choose her on purpose so we are too busy laughing to do anything serious about what's happening
Technically HATO cannot accept any country with territorial disputes. So the Crimea grab perpetually disqualifies Ukraine from membership, as also Donbas does. Now HATO can discard their own rules, but they haven't so far.
And if France and Germany dump HATO they just become a joke-- with the US, Georgia, Moldova and a few other joke nothing countries as members. And Poland the idiots.
Maybe Germany can join Russia on a military basis, and France economically, and England dumping the whole EU project.
Putin can win and take his time doing it.
And you too comrade. And thanks for Putin and giving the world, or at least the west, hope.
>Meanwhile in America......pic related
>It's not worth it, to betray your soul and your own people and your own blood, just for increased trade and wealth with wealthy Western Europe.
I fully agree, even though i wasn't supporting the whole idea about south-west of Ukraine - because hohols are brothers (stupid brothers, but still), and it is not good when there are bombing, shooting and killing in Ukraine.
But we pledge (not formally, but it was obviously) support to rebels, they were counting on us. Damn, on our imageboard even were threads, created by government's paid commentators, where anons were proposed to go as volunteers in Donetsk and Lugansk!
It will be clearly betrayal, if our government will not take care of all these people.
But still looks like they will not. They love gas-trading better.
Well, let's just what will happen. Maybe they will take them in Russia at least.
I also find that odd, when they have highly skilled liars. I mean skilled diabolical liars like Hillary Clinton, and Victoria Nudelman, who can tear a question to shreds and sneer at you while they do it, so they put up imbeciles like Psaki and Harf??
I don't get that at all. They are probably the only two females who were relatively hot and young and willing to sleep with John Kerry (a well-known punter and maybe in your terms a "lad")
a sicklad m8, not just any lad.
We're onto something here. There must be some reason why they purposely pick dumbshits like Psaki and Harf who stumble through questions contradicting themselves; lashing out poorly and showing logical weakness and hypocrisy all the time. Surely they have far better propagandists, hell your average news reporter is better than them.
Why State Department?
Yes that's the double-game. Putin has to support his Donbas rebels, but also keep the whole Ukraine friendly to Russia. Almost an impossible task.
But I look at the sophisticated anti-aircraft missiles that the donbas volunteers have, and their obvious skills and strength at keeping the Kiev conscript army at bay, as a sign that Putin will not abandon the new old Russia "Novorossiya" either.
>"keep at bay" = to counter, to defend against aggression and stop your attackers from destroying you. Also has a meaning in hunting terms.
Let's see what happens and hope for the best.
Tell the donbas rebels to seek battlefield truces with the Kiev army, as most of them are forced conscripts who don't want to be there and who don't want to fight, and consider you brothers as well.
That's a puzzling question. I'll czech with my contacts for any insight. Like I said only two ideas I have is
1- names Psaki and Harf sound really jewish, so they get the job by nepotism
2- Harf is really hot and if she's banging John Kerry he gives her rocket promotions up the ladder of success at state. Psaki maybe looks good to a dementia rattled senile old fuck