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do americans like to be called burgers?
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>>76068850
Only newfags get offended by leaf, burger, macaco etc. Mr. Blackman
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>>76068850
I have no problem with it
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>>76068850
do argies like being called bolivians?
Why do Europeans tend to be more "pureblooded" despite living in smaller countries than US? I would think you would spread out more.
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Because we all hate eachother with a passion and dont speak the sam language and dont have the same culture
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Because we all hate eachother with a passion and dont speak the sam language and dont have the same culture
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لأننا جميعا نكره بعضنا البعض مع العاطفة و لا تتكلم لغة سام و ليس لديهم نفس الثقافة
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What I want to do is talk about Iran and its consistent insistence on ismalophilia.
To an outsider the situation in Iran seems absurdly masochistic (and has for centuries):
First there's a refined civilization and culture with well established literary, intellectual, and religious traditions. Suddenly it gets conquered by comparatively vastly uncivilized semitic nomads because those nomads face overpopulation cycles in their mountainous-desert peninsula occasionally and have a pattern of migrating northwards.They manage to conquer Iran and the levant and north Africa because there's a big power vacuum.
Okay fine, but it doesn't stop there.
The Arabs actually manage to assimilate the levant and iraq and Egypt, taking their traditions of civilization and appropriating themselves, and their new subjects sort of "agree" to become assimilated, and now speak Arabic and call themselves Arabs. The degree of how effective that assimilation was is sort of staggering.
In Iran the level of assimilation was not as strong and they were able to maintain their culture, but at the same time kept Islam.
So, logically, to an outsider, "true" Iranian culture is zoroastrianism and not this barbaric out-of-nowhere shit pushed on them by invaders.
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However, the reason for the effectiveness of Islam I think is because not only was there a political and military power vacuum, but also a cultural one. Just as the pagans in Europe converted to Christianity thus creating what we know as Western civilization, people in Egypt, the levant, north Africa, and Iran converted to Islam creating "islamic civilization". A lot of people like to criticize the islamic golden age for just riding off the achievements of previous peoples and cultures and civilizations and traditions, but the fact is that those older societies willingly came under the islamic umbrella. Which again might seem sort of strange, but consider the history of the middle East prior to Islam; Egypt, the mashriq, parts of the Arabian peninsula were all under Iran's wing for extended periods at some point. The Arabs and their conquests just acted as a catalyst or like a sort of vessel for a new middle east. That's the point I want to make, is that iran's islamophilia today and through its history (qajars, safavids, etc) isn't really exactly cucky or totally masochistic. Iran has always been a part of middle eastern culture and tradition and it continued its role by accepting and massively contributing to Islam.
One might even look at islamic and western civs like brother civilizations; in the middle east and Iran there is very significant Greek influence historically, and the roots of western civ itself are commonly traced back to Mesopotamia and Greece. Islamic and western civ share the same origin.
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Actually one more thing: the Iranian diaspora are largely extremely critical of the islamic republic and are "nationalists" wanting a return to zoroastrianism at least in spirit or just increased skepticism of islam.
My fear is that these people are not actually nationalists, but simply leftists and globalists who conflate some kind of Iranian cause with anti-islam. I simply can't see Iran as inherently or "truly" not islamic though. Again, at first impression it really seems like Iran is just hopelessly cucked and can't see the light of its own culture, but its culture is simply intertwined with islam and has been for a long ass time.
My question though is this: how truly effective was arab assimilation in Iran? Obviously it didn't change the language entirely, but seeing how effective it was in other places, is there actually even such thing as a strong true Iranian identity? Is the reason why Iranians hate the politics of their diaspora because the latter think there is a national identity but the former knows it's actually just a subset of arab culture? Obviously it's middle eastern, but I want to know the real extent of Iranian identity, if it actually has survived the test of time or if it has become another lost civilization just like the babylonians or ancient egyptians or something like that, and tied itself not only to the middle east, but to arabic culture specifically
Is there an Iran or is there just some kind of geographical region called Iran with less identity than some make it out to have?
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Zoroastrians willingly converted en-masse yet at the same time wanted to maintain their identity form the Iran we know today. Arabs are from Arabia; Iraqi's, Syrians, Egyptians aern't "Arab" in the genetic sense but have adpted most of the culture as it was seen as superior and noble due to the religion's origin. Iran had a different geography and is far from Arabia proper so it didn't really change too much. Saem with Central Asia, India etc.
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la fiha
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Primo per tassa su persone senza figli
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maisie
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Vegeta is algerian.
Algerian people must appropriate this character, he totally represent the culture and values of our people.
he's proud, very nervous, strong and love fighting.
he left his planet and immigrate to earth.
I have another proof: http://forebears.io/fr/surnames/vegeta
Vegeta is a real surname in Algeria, so Vegeta is therefore algerian.
Scandinavians and Finns made cultural appropriation concerning Donald Duck, so I don't see why we can't make the same for Vegeta.
He his algerian, just accept it.
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>>76068027
arabs are worthless subhumans
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kys, Bilel
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>>76068231
no, we just preserve our saiyan heritage.
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Do you have politicians with a severe lack of judgement in your country?
Pic related. One of our younger politicians went shopping at Ikea. He lost his license.
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haha yea ours just called a pointless election and lost her majority
wahey!
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Why? Does the load posess illegal dimensions? Does it exceed the load bearing rating of the roof rails? Is it insufficiently secured?
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>>76068014
Insufficiently secured and probably overloaded. You can see the whole car is filled with Ikea boxes
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>jolines
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>>76067767
>vosotros
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>>76067767
Creo que nunca he escuchado esa palabra dicha por alguien mayor de 12 años
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>>76067767
>Chulo
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>Finno Korean Hyperwar
Did it really happen?
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>>76067720
Yes. Never forget.
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It's Asian history white people are too embarrassed to teach in school
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Did Finns invent numbers?
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kurva anyátok
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kurva anyátok
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limey limey limey come here boy
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*enters thread*
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1. your country
2. your honest opinion on Argentina and Argentines
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1. US
2. I've never met one.
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>>76067414
Beautiful country, European culture, White-ish people, pretty vain. About as good a place to live in Latin America that you can find.
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They're pretty cool.
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Albanian riviera edition
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/balt/.
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>>76068074
I am seriously thinking about going to Albania this summer. Roads are shit, but hey.
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fuck turkgaria mate
I just apostated from Islam.
95% of my problems just vanished, i can finally live free and in peace
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are you turk ?
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>>76068100
i am greek
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>>76067949
Hello is this /bundes/????
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why do you hate German tourists?
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>>76066985
There are not enough of them in my country, telling me how much they hate Germany
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I hate it when German men get drunk and naked in my country.
I love it when German women get drunk and naked in my country.
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>>76066985
They ruin beaches
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How are drivers in your country?
>America
>really bad
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cyclists are kanker
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aggressive, nerveous wrecks, cyclists are suicidal, pedestrians are sleepwalkers
the entire country is a danger to your life if you are not adapting quickly no matter what is your ride
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>>76067800
>america
>pretty good
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ITT culture shock stories
I have two.
During the World Cup my local news station was interviewing foreigners who were staying in my town, asking them what they thought of the town and Brazil and such. And they came upon a guy from Switzerland in a diner who was freaking out because when he asked for a glass of orange juice the lady behind the counter actually grabbed a couple of oranges and squeezed the juice out of them to serve him, and he had never had real orange juice before, just artificial flavors.
During the Olympics my dad worked for a company driving tourists to and fro in Rio, taking them to games, their hotels, tourist spots, etc. and one day a group of Americans asked for him to stop at a place where they could grab a snack, so he stopped at a bakery and the Americans were fucking mesmerized at the existence of such an establishment. They were amazed at being able to eat fresh bread, pastries and cakes just out of the oven. They said that in the US such foods were only made in factories and sold in supermarkets, unless you made it yourself at home.
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>>76067055
We have plenty of bakery's, Your dad probably had a hard time understanding the tourists with the duct tape on their mouths.
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>>76067274
>We have plenty of bakery's
what? where do you live with all these Bakery's
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>>76067274
I fucking died.