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pretty cool - reminds me of pascal campion's work
A guy I don't like started painting and made this.
[spoiler] tell me it's shit so I can feel better [/spoiler]
took a break from hands to do a still life. i should add the background instead of just having solitary objects and that feather duster looks more like cabbage but w/e
Nice. When you're rendering, pick crosshatching or shading but don't mix both unless really know what youre doing (like when you're emerging out of the shadow).
I can tell you eventually want to paint (?) so just render instead.
I havent been in here forever, I cant figure out whats wrong with the breast shape. Shes meant to have b-c cup breasts.
I also dont understand why I put myself through the torture of drawing this
Different anon. You still have some fundamental drawing issues to work out so I wouldn't recommend using a stabilizer yet. It's better that you learn to work out the forms and a stabilizer would interfere. Once you have things down you'd be able to set a stabilizer not to over-correct things, before fully knowing what you need to show you might not be able to tell when it's messing up your forms.
Well draw the fans blurry spinning then
at the moment there are no fans
If you don't want to draw fans draw bits of paper taped to the fan you know where they're all blowing and stuff
Thank you :) Its been a long time since I last painted so it was a risk. I've been looking for some skull references at the moment but theres none I can associate with what sort of skull I wanna make :(
I think its the brush I'm using. I just picked a brush I've never used before.
Blame my poor ass computer it cant handle anything over 1000x1000
Sorry about that.
Does this work?
(also the cloth shading is only placement I intend to dix that when I go to render it I'm still working on her skin)
ok now i can read form nicely but tits look saggy as fuck. Like 80 year old saggy grandma.
To repair that you need to draw a lot of perky tits. go to some porn website and download images.
How do you turn down a plane in perspective?
bird background sort of thing i did earlier? i was just testing out paintstorm studio... pretty cool program
Some dude offered me decent money to paint a battle scene featuring a viking berzerker with his face #REKTing some christian fuccbois in a forest. Starting with some concepts for his character before I move on to thumbnails for the actual scene.
anyone looking for something to be drawn
Some value studies. Anything big I'm messing up on?
I'm not at a level to give it any worthwhile critique, but I think these are really nice. Keep it up anon.
Goddamnit, how do I paint grass and foliage? Should I keep polishing this turd? Gouache on watercolor paper.
Wow careful, you might start a black hole splitting hairs that thin.
This is pretty lame as far as bait goes but I guess it is a Monday.
how does it feel to know no one cares at all about your opinions? Like even if your serious you are so fucking retarded everyone thinks youre doing it on purpose.
So bitch about what you judge to be art or not. No one cares. No one will even pretend to care. Odds are you are just pissy because your art is shit and you just needed a way to justify it. "Yeah yeah everyone else is shit! not me! They are!"
this guy reporting in. please stop ragging on digital artists. there's nothing wrong with digital art. it's a cheap alternative to expensive traditional mediums, and some people end up doing it long enough that they get very, very good at it. and that's fine. maybe not everyone on this board can afford oil paints and new brushes every 2 months and canvas and all that.
i mean i still pretty much buy the cheap stuff but it adds up over time, as opposed to a tablet and photoshop and then you're good to go.
also I'd argue that all the most important lessons of drawing traditionally can be learned digitally, even if it is more of a simulation than an authentic experience. people are smart enough to be able to extract important lessons even if the medium is kind of fraudulent ( which at the end of the day means it's not fraudulent at all)
you never mixed your paint either dumbass. You realize artists had this same exact bitch fest when tubbed paint came out right? "Oh its not fair! Real artist's mix their own tempera paint with their own pigments!"
You need to take some art history classes cus you are extremely ignorant. Art is directly connected to the progress of technology.
youre factoring the cost of internet and a computer. Which are already bought for everyone. If i had to pay for all the thousands of gestures ive done and all the times i colored itd be much more than my 100$ wacom.
You're choosing a medium is more authentic. I could just as easily argue digital is more artistic because it can be shown to the whole world and be preserved eternally, perfectally
Art is a very personal thing. You spend most of your time alone painting things you care about.
So this guy thats rambling about digital art is angry because his doodles don't look as good as kids in college. Digital is the new popular medium so all these kids are more likely to use it.
So he looks at his art and compares it to people much younger than him. His art isn't as good as these kid's so that makes him angry. Rather than blame himself (like any good artist would) he starts making excuses. "It's the digital! It's making the paintings for them! They aren't real artists LIKE ME!".
Basically this guy is in denial. His art is shit and people much younger than him are much more successful. He just needs to accept the fact he isn't a good artist and the medium isn't important.
think harder faggot. Nosebro is annoying but he has a point.
There are certain tricks you can do with traditional art that you can't do digitally. The hairs and texture of a brush can paint foliage really convincingly if you use the proper technique. And there are some really neat brushes that can paint a detailed ruse in just a few strokes.
Then there is also watercolor which can't be copied very well on computers. A lot of unique effects can be done with traditional.
you are in denial. Of course you don't think other people will understand.
It's ok. One day you will realize your shit art is shit because you are shit and not because your medium is so much harder.
cyber police? lol
seriously, wtf will you do if your shit short circuits, your motherboard is fucked and nothing works? Seriously.
I mean, the same can happen to actual art. House catches fire, flood, hurricane, tornadoe, but then we'd both be fucked lol
Still, digital art, and digital artists. fuck that shit. it just aint real. it's like comparing real life to facebook life or internet life.
No anon, I said YOU missed the point.
Don't try to make my response general in order to save your ass.
You are the one going into the whole "your art is shit" which is what hacks usually say when their work is insulted.
I mean, technically, everything I said IS true and any traditional artist will agree. Anyone who has dedicated and worked their ass off in their work. People like you get mad and start slinging mud because it's all you have left in order to save face.
Much worse, you have never seen my work and still say my work is shit. Talk about being in denial and insecure.
With your corny and incomplete digital portraits. Keep "painting" and "drawing" anon, lol
why do you think people are angry? No one cares about your opinion. You're clearly retarded.
They are just annoyed yet intrigued about how someone can be that fucking dumb.
It would be like someone bursting through your door and screaming "THE MOON ISN'T REAL" and everyone is like "what the fuck are you talking about?".
Naturally his reply is "HAHA YOU'RE JUST ANGRY ASSBLASTED I MADE FUN OF YOUR PRECIOUS MOON"
Your point is that traditional is easier in some aspects and digital is easier in others?
That meidums don't matter as they all have their strengths and weakness and all that really matters is the outcome?
Cus that doesn't sound like the point you were trying to make.... That sounds reasonable.
My original comment was
Yea, those portraits look nice...wait a minute, they're digitally done, damn, they would look better if they were actually drawn out, in real life. So i inquired if the artist only did digital or also had some actual drawings under his belt that he could share, that way, I wouldn't give two shits what medium he chooses.
Mediums don't matter if, say, you draw digitally, for whatever reason, and when asked to produce something real, like a drawing on paper, it is not a problem because you can. then no, medium is not an issue.
BUT, if all you do is digital (probably like this faggot >>2388557) then chances are, you can't transfer that skill onto paper, in which case, you are NOT an artist but a hack. OBVIOUSLY, this is MY opinion, but the amount of analpain in the responses proves everything I said to be true, because it seems more anons here are strictly digital and never really developed traditionally. And many are just posting incomplete shit. Like this faggot >>2388557
You just keep putting words together in an attempt to come off as insulting?
I mean, fuck dude, really? is that the best you got to try to make me feel bad or something?
CLEARLY, you are just a bitch, which naturally means you are a faggot.
No, one, because I do not want to, and like I stated in another comment, I do not do digital work. I played with a wacom tablet for a few but it felt retarded and I had my pen and paper right next to me. Besides, I am still waiting, perhaps if I am indulged, I will re-draw that one anons portrait just to fuck with him.
It's pretty obvious he's just baiting and going to post some dumb troll drawing.
It's 2am and this board moves at a snail pace so it might be somewhat entertaining. Probably not though.
>BUT, if all you do is digital (probably like this faggot >>2388557) then chances are, you can't transfer that skill onto paper
It's just wrong, man. Photoshop isn't a wizard's tool. If there's good drawing foundations digitally, it transfers over (or vice versa). There may be some short learning curves, but drawing is drawing. I've seen some of the best working illustrators that are old and work -strictly- traditionally, then pick up digital and crank out something great. Painting is another conversation, but I would argue that digital is more of a drawing-based media anyway. Digital has its own merits and flaws. You're coming on to a primarily digital board preaching about why it sucks rather than offering any semblance of constructive conversation. Why would you expect anything but analpained responses? It's just a medium.
And just post your work. Either prove everyone wrong and shut them all up or move along because you have little idea of what you're actually talking about other than recycling what you've heard other traditional purists chant. I've seen illustrators do incredible things with traditional and digital. It's all great. At the end of the day in illustration, all that matters is who's getting the jobs. And if they happen to work digitally so that they finish twice as fast as you would traditionally? Hey, guess what? They made double their rate per hour than you did.
Although I wholeheartedly agree with the other anon in here about digital work being a cheap forgery, I would have to say it has its merits depending on the use.
digital medium is the perfect commercial medium. My evidence for this is that many of the huge art studios in our time have completely replaced full traditional art teams with their comparatively cheaper counterparts who can bang out more work, quicker and cheaper. It truly is the medium of the future because of the ever expanding net of big studios wanting quick cheap work to squeeze another dollar out of us.
As a vehicle for serious expression... I have yet to see this digitally mostly because a computer is strangely human and is yet strangely not because its completely devoid of the characteristics to contain real humanity, so seeing any type of work on it seems cheap or fake.
One can see there was skill involved in the creation of a work, sure, even in the most faithful works, but they don't seem feasible because it doesn't actually exist in our world. I mean, if you print out a digital artwork it will always be a reproduction of a digital artwork and never the original. The gap in printer to monitor tech has not yet been bridged for this to be fully implemented.
He's probably not going to post anything at all. I don't even know what the fuck happened here. That bait couldn't possibly have been more obvious unless it was a box propped up by a goddamn stick and a carrot under it, yet it still worked. /ic/ what is wrong with you?
What the fuck is wrong with YOU? You seriously think those look better than the digital sketches? You seriously think they look good at all? This is bait bait, nothing but bait. Damn you need to find something better to do. I wonder if you're that dumbass from whatever thread that was who said he'd try to get people to critique his work by going around and giving critiques to people clearly out of his league.
ohhh TIL the difference between centaurs and dryads. Nice centaur though... I think I might thicken mine up a bit, yours has nice weight to it.
I'm probably getting baited but as a traditional-only artist, it really doesn't matter what medium you use, it's just about the skills of the artist. Digital has some advantages, but so does traditional. You hating on digital so much just makes you seem insecure and butthurt
You can look around here, I've got a few traditional pieces. http://vetyr.tumblr.com
No pre-programmed textures on my pieces, except for a mermaid one I did a few days back. The sketches I posted here are just the hard round brush.
I'll post the 4 of them, because this thread probably couldn't be derailed much further.
Holy shit. You're fucking terrible. This couldn't have played out any better.
I was right all along. You're fucking jealous of digital artists Your work couldn't be any more mediocre. Like that shit is highschool tier. Fucking stippling man. STIPPLING.
I seriously couldn't have laughed harder.
This has way more charm than >>2388323 imo
>>2388323 has faulty opacity going on lines that are supposed to be hard lines which makes the overall piece look ghostlike and not tangible overall. I see that a lot in digital work trying to be traditional. almost like saying something but with no weight behind the words.
in there is much more play of texture and direction of line to create the effect of movement in each photo and the lines make you look at everything a few times over to understand every texture.
both are well enough rendered and have a grip of form and how they work, but is more visually stimulating over all because your eyes get stuck on it more than >>2388323
>15 minute sketch
what kind of input you want on a drawing that even you're too lazy to finish ? Or are you just fishing for compliments ? Because you're in the wrong place for that buddy...Post when you have finished work This is not a dick sucking sauna over here.
>Or are you just fishing for compliments
You haven't caught on to this yet? He's been posting half finished tracings for weeks looking for dick suckers to tease with his 'sekret' blog. The ultimate attention fag.
the digital one depicts the lighting situation of the subjects' scene more effectively than the traditional one, it's more stimulating because you get to sense the burning sensation of the bright light the subjects are under more strongly.
Well drawn! but the design is a little too generic imo, like a friend told me once "its like a template for a character"
I've never done a face this tiny before, its messing me up
sry if spam
posted wrong file size, quick practices from last night
You render everything like it's a rock. The mountains are rocks, the clouds are rocks, the waves are rocks.
It doesn't look as ugly as beginner stuff usually looks, but it's ugly nonetheless. I'd bet you are a beginner who can't draw a person, but focused on rendering landscape because it looks easier. I would sugest you go back to the basics, learn form, learn about values, and start learning first on how to render people, and then go into other stuff like composition and landscapes.
Yeah, the eyebrows are pretty askewed, but the biggest problem with this is that her torso is huge and her horse body is tiny. Try to ignore the back legs and look at how ridiculous she looks with these tiny front legs supporting her.
Also, her shoulders are too wide, and again, her "hip" is small, because the horse body is small, making her look manly
you must be trolling.
most of us here started with traditional tools and then when it was the right time, decided to move on up to more advance tools, a tablet and a computer is just a bigger better more complicated brush.
and thats not to say that one cannot combine both digital and non digital.
seriously, i did 5-6 years of traditional drawing before getting a tablet.
please no calling people rabbits, pls no bullie
why would anyone say no to a better eraser?
>a skilled driver USES his brakes.
proportions and anatomy need a lot of work, i recommend going back to pencil and charcoal for abit, since they are the most forgiving of mediums.
also, can you please post the references you used so we can better help critt you.
i have flipped your photo for you so you can better see with fresh eyes the obvious structural flaws.
>i dont know why everyone is being so mean to you, you have potential.
Yeah, the ref has a slight underbite
Stop being so painfully bitter. Accept your shortcommings and work at it. I used to hate 3D modelling because I thought they had it easy compared to my digital painting. That's ten years ago. When I was 16 Yo.
You're just blaming one medium and generalise a whole lot of people. You actually shit on people. I don't like your shitposting. I can safely say I'm not alone.
The fact that digital art is fraudulent to you is just your opinion. I've been drawing w pencils longer than I've drawn digital. I have decades of experience. I don't frown upon digital artists one bit.
Your argument remind me of the older generation and their hate for tattoo's and piercing. Ignorant and outdated.
sad to see people that actually are drawing/painting/trying get buried alive by kids fighting over traditional / digital
1. please make a separate thread for that
2. real artists respect and try all mediums
3. thanks for sabotaging those actually working,
yesterday every few hours i checked the draw thread it was you children
shit post after shit post," that's a lot of time you've wasted"
had to get this off my chest this shits gotta stop.
A little bit. You are doing this with colored pencil right? So there isn't much you can do anyway to fix the stuff I talked about, I just thought I should give a heads up for future centaurs. About the eyebrows though, I think doing this would make the face much better.
i painted some boats what do you guys think
are you seriously bitching about someone posting art in an art thread on an art board. Are you fucking retarded? I have hundreds of "wips" that I have started. I don't finish all of them. Not my fault you're shit at art.
Literally do these on livestream. If I were tracing I think it wouldn't be a conspiracy in your head.
No, I hate you because you're constantly being a cunt. There are dozens of people posting art here all day every day. I never have a problem with any of them. I have a problem with YOU and your bullshit, which I am now going to hide so I don't have to be bothered with it anymore.
you're grossly misinterpreting what this threat is about little buddy. Nobody will suck your dick for your unfinished shit. And nobody can give you critique for your unfinished shit because it's exactly that, unfinished. Why are you being a thaiwanese cockgobbler right now and not take the fucking hint you dopey cunt. You don't even have the skin to take not even critique but the remark to finish your works before posting.You'll never make it out of your mother's basement So you might as well hang yourself now and save yourself the humiliation of being 45 and drawing anime chicks
So I'm like 20 minutes into this and it just feels amazing. So different to what I usually plaster together awkwardly. What's happening ???
it looks like your hippie friend paid you 25 bucks to paint it on the side of his van
when you where finished he said "great dude!" even though he thought the clouds looked like poop
then proceeded to pay you 20 bucks and some weed, even though you don't smoke weed.
you should study more, you got some legit criticism here
Finally finished this. Is the dark side of the animal ok in terms of value? I was afraid of making it too dark and black.
Great effect with the glowing golden scenery. Maybe her neck is a bit too long?
This looks insanely good for 20 minutes. Seems like you just leveled up, anon.
i like this a lot so far
two things that bother me though:
head looks a bit too big for the rest of the body
and the legs look a bit too human (crotch's going up too far) although that may be a matter of style
it's not about needing inspiration that's my point. it shouldn't matter what my stuff looks like if I'm practicing the right way. gotta be able to see the bigger picture better than that. you should be able to endure the boring early stages of practicing or else you'll never get past them.
draw your hands everyday like me. you'll get better faster.
You're not practicing the right way, and I'm already better than you because I did go through all the tediousness of the early stages of learning to draw. The difference is I spent time observing what I was drawing and ingraining that information rather than focusing on gimmicky styles. You're not keeping me from anything, you're only stunting yourself.
also no you aren't better than me. the vastness of my potential outstrips all of the burnout angst you've built up over the years. you can draw a hand from imagination? good for you. I can literally draw anything that's in front of me.
that's the main problem with my drawings. what I draw usually looks more like the subject than the subject does. something you can't learn overnight but you'll get there if you practice the way i do.
>brian can't draw
don't mean to shit up threads people just say dumb shit sometimes. just trying to help.
um i drew a made-up garden? watercolours, ink, and pencil crayon kind of entry level material shit haha, but i had fun
yeah definitely not for anyone but me, mostly just had a relaxing time drawing little squares and flowers. not the sort of thing i submit for my midterms/finals. are we allowed to post paintings in this thread?
hi, never been to this board before
i've always loved drawing, but only just recently have been trying to draw every day and git gud. pretty intimidated by all of the great art on here honestly
this is my most recent project, how am i doing?
interesting start! i think it might be cool to make the lettering more part of the piece instead of having it be just straight up writing? like practice a script that you think looks good. awesome that you try to draw every day, keep that up.
thank you! i know what you mean by the lettering. I thought I'd just use my handwriting as an "artistic choice", but I realized after doing it that it just looks more lazy than artistic. writing in an actual script would have been better. thanks again
lol. made sure to rename the next one from "fullsizerender(3)"
>you will never jump this hard
bit of a shit photo because it's from my phone, but this is my first attempt at oil painting. i like working on round panels, but they're pretty expensive, so i just bought a big slice of plywood and cut it with a bandsaw. this is about three feet across.
Pretty cringey teenager stuff, dude. Read the sticky, you need to learn to draw forms, shapes corectly, you need to learn how to draw properly, so start with anatomy and give a break on these "lol random abstract" stuff for a bit, they are Brian level of bad.
well, thats good to hear. i often cringe at my own work for being so 2deep n sad n artsy sometimes, so this is helpful to get me to steer out of that pit.
I've read the sticky just now, sounds like a lot of stuff that would be learned by just practicing and naturally learning. being more true to life is what I've been trying to work on. the exercises sound helpful for that so I might try some. everything I used to draw in the past was always cartoonish and would often devolve into abstract.
Idk what brian level is but I assume its a try-hard artsy teenager so alright then. thank you
Not really. Curve it down overall and bring the light back in. Everything is too midrange and detracts from the focal.
Apart from that, get more reference, especially for the bark/tree shape. Your colors (especially in the fur) are a little garish. I get what you're trying to do with playing up the warm/cool, but it doesn't work here quite yet, and I think it's the green underlighting that doesn't fit more than anything else.
I did a quick paintover with only a few real changes -- bounced the light up into her face a bit more appropriately, neutered some of the garish stuff going on, and tweaked the values. Also made it a little more diagonal. It's fun, but more dynamic if you tilt it like this. It has that air of wanting to do LoL splash art, so if that's true, then it's all about dynamism.
With values, just think about what's really important in the piece and make everything else secondary. Secondary still has to be believable though. Reference reference reference.
Fun piece though :), I enjoy the arm and leg in the shadows quite a bit. I think you have the chops to push this a lot further if you bring reference in for everything for a true finish.
Also forgot to mention I went a bit overkill on the darks, but I just did some quick adjustment stuff. to demo. I figure you have the ability to work in the subtleties in the shadows with what you did in the skin.
Is this close to how a cup of coffee would look at this angle in real life?
Tried this out, thanks for donating the reference anon. I might try one of the other two but color worries me.