>You drew everyday for a long time, longer than anyone else. Congratulations. You are the best
>Update every day at: http://www.lavaflake.com/draw/
>The deadline for submissions is 00:00 GMT each day
>You should spend at least 30 minutes on each update
>Miss a day and you can make up for it the next day with a double post.
>Miss another day within a month and you're eliminated.
>Progress updates are ok but they will be policed like other submissions
Entry into the third challenge is open until Saturday at 00:00 GMT. People who join after then will be entered into the less awesome Last Artist Standing # 4
>Okay, time to draw the submission for today
>"Last USB device was not recognized by Windows"
>What the fuck
>Tablet not working
>All right I got time to fix this and then I'll do the submission
>End up fucking the PC over
>tablet still not working
>1 hour left
>SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT
>Do some gestures and submit 10 minutes early
that first submission
damn, rip my yung nigga, join us again soon
jmgn, keepin it classy.
do the top people on this board ever critique? i'd be interested in seeing a redline from ThDark, jmgn, or that guy who posts giant lolis (for better or for worse). closest i've seen is a redline from Grachh, tho i think he's a newboi
I feel awkward posting now that I know someone follows me
I shouldn't have clicked..
>free healthcare and education
>highest tax rate in the world
Guys, I think my tablet (pic related) is dead, and I'd like to get a new one. My budget is 150 €. Any recomendations?
> 28 names
> none are mine
That's actually ok, because I'm willing to acknowledge that I am far below what the most competent among us can produce and that with persistent practice I can get better. It's about competing with yourself; comparison is useless beyond objectively gauging your relative skill.
I'd say about 3-4 years but I should really get a new one, it's been failing for some time now and wacom customer service is shit.
Is this: http://www.wacom.com/es-es/products/pen-tablets/intuos-art any good, or am I better off just saving for this: http://www.wacom.com/es-es/products/pen-tablets/intuos-pro-large ??
Would you prefer a Scarlet Dickbutt?
Even if you buy a new one, utilize the warranty if it's still valid. You get a free tablet that way. You're better off getting an intuos pro, imo, however the large takes up a lot of space on your desk, and I wasn't able to work comfortably til I got a razer nostromo (now tartarus). Can't type comfortably, though, lol.
Taxes are out of control here. As of this year tips earned in restaurants have a 30% tax on them as well. Wages and job security are higher but so is long-term unemployment to a high degree, also companies are hesitant to hire new people. Also all the rich people move when taxes get high which affects job creation negatively. The healthcare and education have been in sharp decline in this country even as taxes get higher.
I did too, because I'd been working 10-12 hour shifts all week at work. Was too tired on the last day, and just decided to burn my get out of jail free card. Maybe you should double up on drawing on free days to have a buffer? As long as you're averaging about 3.5 hours a week I don't see why that would be cheating.
Cheaters will be straight up eliminated. I deleted this guy's submission and eliminated him from the three active challenges and sent him an email to let him know what happened.
In the past people have uploaded the wrong link but I was able to track them down on social media and find what they had meant to post and update it for them. Since I made it so that you can no longer submit duplicate links that hasn't happened.
This is the first time that I've seen where someone has tried to get around it by rehosting the image and I'm assuming the crop was to make it so you can't reverse image search it, I guess? Although I don't know why they would leave the "Day 15" in the bottom right corner.
He still had his token so I don't understand why he didn't just miss a day instead of trying to cheat it. The image was uploaded 4 days ago so I'm hoping this is all just a mix up. I've emailed him and if he can show me an upload with a timestamp from before the deadline then I'll reinstate him.
I hope for his ass that his persuasion skills are maxed out
other than that, good decision, lava
Thats exactly what I'm gonna do anon, since I have class tomorrow from 8 to 8, and my deadline for an upload is around 7, I'll just do my double upload for today and tomorrow, and then do my drawing for friday as well so I can be ahead of my deadline by a session.
Good luck on your end anon, let's get it.
But how does it hurt rich people? By making them less rich? Isn't the point of taxing rich people more the fact that they can afford to give more while still keeping comfy lives? I don't understand.
>at a flat tax rate still contribute much more than average citizen
>starts milking you by taxing you 50% of your income
>say fuck that and relocate to Cypress or Malta
>government now makes 0% of your income
>starts raising taxes for middle and working classes instead
Basically how Scandinavian economies function. The story of the goose that laid golden eggs comes to mind.
Yup, If you tax the rich too much they'll just fuck off somewhere else and you'll lose them to another country, it's a cruel reality but you've just gotta tread a fine line between milking them as much as you can and not pissing them off.
This to be honest family. I'm a relatively low income guy so presumably these people screaming to tax the shit out of the rich have "my best interests" in mind but whenever I hear that the rich should "pay their fair share" I can't help but wince because it's just bullshit rhetoric.
Sakimi-chan has paid more towards 'the system" in 6 months than I have in my entire life lol. Our current tax system is pretty much fine the way it is honestly, it's runaway spending that needs to be controlled and diverted to necessities, not to mention the fact that poor people need to somehow stop being low iq troglodyte obese hedonists 95% of the time.
As long as we're on the subject of Sweden, too, let's not forget Sweden's housing crisis (that was ongoing BEFORE they took in tens of thousands of rapefugees
>Today, close to 300,000 young adults between 20 and 27 years of age are without property. Over half of Sweden's local authorities state that they have a housing shortage. The acute housing shortage above all hits the regions' bigger cities and Sweden's university towns.
The reason there is a huge housing shortage in Swedish cities is because of rent-capping (another genius socialist way to achieve fairness). The principle is to make rented housing cheaper, but the side effects are 10-20 year housing queues, black market rental contract sales, and a massive inflation in the mortgage loan sector (facilitated by lowered interest for mortgages). Also lol at this becoming a socialism/Sweden thread.
Sakimichan goes through Patreon which not only takes 10% of her earnings but reports her earnings to the IRS. She might not report taxes on any freelance side-projects that she does but that's another thing entirely because not a single one of us knows how much she makes from those or how often she does them. I think I saw that she'd contributed to some mobile game fairly recently.
Yeah, I'm not a libertarian by any means but straight up command economies typically don't work out too well.
One day, all of you will be praising my name in these threads, just you wait.
If they don't acknowledge you for your skills then impress them with your progress
Guys, I feel bad now and want to come clean.
I didn't have much time yesterday and I did stuff for only 30 minutes or so exactly, and I felt that it wasn't enough and would look like shit and I would get a low effort warning or something, I dunno.
So I took my brothers older studies and plastered them next to my practice to make it look as if I did more than I had actually done. I don't know what I was thinking, this was stupid in hindsight.
farthest right is my brothers older study, my user is Lorkhatosh. Do whatever you will with me.
TRIBUBAL TRIBUNAL. Jk your first one would've been fine alone, I haven't seen anyone complain about lack of effort in these threads for the most part. They only call out tracers or cheaters.
I think you should be excused this time for being honorable and confessing. By the way, I've only done 30 minutes for a few days when I was really busy. Not all of us have the free time (or are willing to sacrifice the sleep) to draw for over an hour every day, doing the minimum is fine as long as you're drawing every day.
I am trying now anon, I got all them books and everything, it's just that because I grew up in a country where there are almost no digital artists and I was the only guy fucking around with Wacom drawing shit in Photoshop everyone told me that I was great even though I had no understanding of fundamentals and just plastered shadows and lighting and colors how I felt it.
Then I came to /ic/ and realized that I am shit and I need to be like my brother who is constantly practicing his fundies with pencil and shit like that.
The site and idea is great and all for people who are struggling to draw every day. But for people like me who's been drawing every day since November 2014, I don't see how it can benefit me, so I didn't give up, I'm just not posting what I do
I panicked because I saw another guy that got eliminated because he got caught and I realized that I did similar shit for no reason.
In the end this challenge is supposed to be a sort of reminder/motivation to draw everyday, what is the fucking point of doing it if I am not going to just draw every day as much as I can, there are no upboats earned here and this isn't tumblr where people will pat you on back for doing good posts every day. Just have to practice.
that's good to hear although it still sounds a little bit like giving up
>you could've had it all
>rovering in the deep
>you had your art inside of my head
>but then you gave up
>and now you're
>and now you're
>and now you're just a neet
While you're free to do whatever you want, personally I draw every day regardless as well, and posting takes me 5 seconds with shareX, so even though I think it's kind of pointless, it's become a fun little society within /ic/ - a meme infested shithole, but I'm a lesbian so I'm into that.
Posting or not doesn't really have much of an effect on my drawing, it's just to be a part of something, since I don't post shit anywhere else really.
>all these Tribunal talks
It's making my anxiety level rise.
Please don't ban me I'm just bad it's not like I'm not aware of the rules I really am drawing for at least 30 minutes a day please.
no and why the fuck would you care?
Because when people start mentioning your work it means it connects with a lot of people and is a good indicator about whether or not it's time to take it to the next level career-wise.
I'm so fucking for this. There are about 100 people updating, there's no problem scrolling through submissions and finding the ppl you find interesting, and also looking up some new ones.
Follow function on this scale is comical and just for trolling, and we don't need that.
All right fuck it I just dropped out of STEM, time to git gud at art or die starving. Burning 7 months worth of notes
mfw people call nile a kid constantly and I'm only a year older than him
ah! your art is going to be good some day! keep it up! people get weird about age because of insecurity when you are still not good. you believe studying doesn't guarantee you are going to become good when it does. so losing time is a scary feeling
they should actually try instead of asking themselves if it's worth it.
when in reality. it is actually worth it.
I always found people caring about someone younger being better is weird, maybe because in the music world it's common to start at a very young age. Unless you have a finite amount of time then age doesn't matter, just the rate that you improve.
This is coming from someone who started from scratch at 29 years old so maybe I'm biased
For me it's frustration about starting a decade later and thus having the skill level of a retard fingerpainting with their own shit. Most of my life I was led to believe that if I couldn't draw from the start, it was simply because I didn't have talent and thus shouldn't even try. In retrospect that makes me even worse than the aforementioned retard.
Well done, get to work, here's your complimentary loomis
Then why is a kid supposed to be trusted to have any sort of responsibility?
What drives people to force their own children out of their homes if they cant even regard them as little more than a toddler with a rich vocabulary.
The site says I started the third challenge on the 23rd even though I don't remember using any tokens and I uploaded all my drawings on time.
I was in the second challenge.
maybe I'm just retarded and fucked up without knowing it.
If you check out your profile and check out the Active Challenges tab it shows that you're in both challenge #2 and #3. The new challenge every week system is to allow new people to join and for the eliminated to rejoin (and because the challenges will last a long time and it would suck for everyone to wait.) Next week you'll join the 4th and so on but if you get eliminated by missing 2 days then you're out of all of them and can rejoin the next week
anyone know how to properly adjust your screen for the best and truest color output?
I still haven't added an email for my LAS account and I'm scared to put one because if I do Lava is going to sexually harass me.
He's already lusted all over me in the past few threads. What should I do?
I've only ever emailed people when they screw up their submissions so don't worry. All you gotta do is be perfect forever. Or else.
>runnerman1 is a cheater:
>day 15: http://i.imgur.com/619hjOd.jpg
>cropped and reuploaded to a different host
Has this been dealt with?
Nope, I got frustrated with arms so I didn't make much progress on anything, in the end I just gave up and uploaded it.
fucking shit gestures are not a fucking hard concept its entry level as shit make your stupid hands do something
>the only grills on here are lesbians into infested shitholes
Fuck girls, I have only 3 love in my life pen, paper and tablet.
That is heresy. Holy trinity is Vilppu, Bridgman and Hampton.
WELP! I guess finals month was not the best time to get into this, I missed another day. Goodbye cruel world, I shall return after finals!
No thanks, I want to get a job with a comfy income, then I can dedicate my free time to art. With plans like these, I'm almost not sad that no woman will ever love me and want to have a family with me.
I wish there were comments, would love to get some critique from time to time, especially since I could look at what the commenter has drawn and see if he can actually draw and isn't talking out of his ass.
Well, I guess that's better than I can say. Good luck friendo.
I'm supposedly the next Tehmeh, weirdly enough.
Here's my latest work
Seems like Nile got...hold up lemme wait...Piled.
its been like this for an hour already
>what was i thinking when i decided to join 2330 club
There are 3 rules of LAS:
1) We don't talk about Rover
2) We love/follow/hate Rover
There is no LAS mimes with Keira Knightley and Rover
> implying half of the contestants aren't forcing themselves to make life choices that puts art as their main focus.
> implying that this bit of relative meme spouting and joke making isn't helping during that process of anger and sacrifice.
Can't wait to see how many of you faggots are left and how many weaklings perished.
Im sory anon so much failure and pain with humans have made me a distant sad little man. I pray to someday be good enough to draw myself with her on fun adventures since it will be the closest ill get to happines.
Guys, I don't give a fuck meme away.
But I know I'm beginner but I draw everyday and I just wish to be ok porn/comics artist and I work hard to do it.
So....I'm in LAS to stay last.
Love me, hate me I don't care.
I HAVE MY OWN GOAL!
>yfw after several years fibinochi will produce the most beautiful cityscape imaginable
I don't work for 30 min.
I study then I do one pic per day and it thakes me 1,5h or more. I bad but I'm trying, and I have job so..... But I will stay on LAS for years.
So meme away, but one day you will fap on Rover pics.....I hope.
> 1.5 hours
Oh wow, really?
Whatever. We all start somewhere. But I strongly recommend drawing larger in scale and learning to avoid symbol drawing. If you're a beginner, you should definitely read through Keys to Drawing.
>137 artists remaining (24 eliminated)
Less eliminations per day now, this is where the real challenge starts.
Can you make pole from 1st ch so we know how many are left. This is LAS but I thinking I'm fighting impossible battle. Make pole from 1st ch to last,pl. We need it for score keeping.
The problem was that you reuploaded an old submission that was cropped differently and on a different host.
Here's your day 15
and here was day 19
Since it looked like you were trying to get around being eliminated the only fair way to handle it is to eliminate (taking the token if youre caught cheating encourages people to try to cheat if they're feeling lazy.)
If you can link me your real day 19 that was uploaded before yesterday's deadline then I'll add you back into the challenges
> my name gets mentioned for the first time
i don't know if i like how this feels
once i get a taste of attention i start sucking aggressively at the internet's equivalent for a carpet for the crumbs of the experience
DO NOT REPLY TO THIS POLL
IT'S LOOMIS ATTEMPTING TO LOCATE US
OK! I love you all shitposters but I'm going to sleep. Good night LAS.
Zagreb, Seattle, Madrid, Istanbul, Heidelberg, Vasteras, Oslo, St. Petesburg... I'm going to be busy for a while it seems
Yea sure here is my day 19. I was at work kinda rushed when when I submitted the other pic on my phone.
I found Loomis, he must be the florida madman.
Time to end this once and for all
wish me luck
Come to me and I will kill you.
Art of murder, and post on LAS.
>now I have to juggle learning martial arts, handling knives and shooting guns on top of drawing at least 30 minutes a day
we also got swede cuck and a kebab
gentlemen, the game begins
>young adults from across the world are dropping like flies.
>victims were found lying lifeless with a pencil jammed in their heart
>it seems that they are all linked trough something called "the last artist standing"
Well this map is shit. He thinks I'm gas station in Zagreb.
>Loomis only needs a place and a username to kill us
jmgn those gestures are fucking remarkable. Do you have any tips for how you so effectively capture motion? Are they imagined or referenced? If referenced, how do you give symmetrical standing and sitting poses satisfactory execution?
Any bets on how long until it drops to 50? My money's on LAS having a half-life.
All right everyone this is what we're going to do: Close your windows, nail them down, stock on cans of food and nail your door shut. Make sure there's no possible entrance to your house. Hide in the room that is farthest away from the main door, under the furniture, and don't leave except for submissions and eating. Keep a weapon, any weapon, close at all times. Remain calm.
I've already alerted the interpol and they're looking for him, don't worry
Because my house is here. It's not bad. Muslims ruin my mornings, though.
I had muslim flatmate for a couple of months once. I know your pain.
>loomis begins traveling the world, killing off LAS participants
>he arrives in Seattle, where the last three remaining artists are posting
>one, two artists fall
>Loomis searches in vain for the third
>the survey map was faulty
>He looks at his watch, realizing he forgot to post
>I teleport behind him
Sorry, not Loomis. I'm already on fire though so it would be win/win if you killed me. The location is inaccurate as fuck though good luck.
Just fucking come and kill me loomis, please dakara.
I'm glad you like them!! I need to do them from reference more, those gestures are from this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daGFMQUXcJ8
I need to use less lines, but I think a big trick of gestures is leading curves into other curves, so it has good rhythm. I don't know if I have an answer to your last question but I think as long as you're trying your hardest to feel the force of the curves and make sure they're all leading into other curves it'll come out looking ok. Every still pose is just oblong shapes locking into each other to keep from collapsing under the force of gravity anyways.
I said most. Besides most of those are people sent here with a specific mission, as opposed to floods and floods of them who have no purpose except to be obnoxious assholes and rape white girls
If, hypothetically, I was working on something that might take me multiple days to work through, would it be okay to post different phases of it's progress made by the end of the day, and do so again until the end? I mean, technically, you would still be filling the half hour+ of drawing. I'm just asking because in the future, I don't want to have to worry about making some seperate drawing while I'm trying to focus on a certain project.
I know this isn't the best place to ask but I don't want to make my own thread for it and I need to talk this over and it's not like a lot's happening itt right now.
I haven't had much success getting work with my art. Last year I dipped my toe into lewd art and found immediate success. Everything I've tried with the lewd art has worked out beyond my expectations, and I find that I make way more improvements and discoveries while I'm doing that vs when I'm doing my regular art. I want to be legit and work at a studio and whatnot but I do enjoy drawing lewd and frankly, I'm kind of old so I think my chances of ever getting into the mainstream industry at this point are about gone. Should I just give up on my industry dreams and aim for being the next Doxy or whoever?
Aw, thanks anon. I guess I could try a little bit longer, but it fucking sucks casting a line for so many years and never getting a bite. I just thought maybe I'm not meant to fish in that ocean. I mean realistically that's how it goes, for some people to be on top there have to be people on the bottom, and honestly I'm okay with that but I gotta do what I gotta do to make sure I can pay bills. I'll see what I can do though.
how old? And why not use a different name for lewd art and keep grinding away while you make money on the side? Then if you're happy with making lewd shit then keep doing that or if you want to move on then move on. As long as you're making money all that matters is if your happy, not the type of art your making or the industry you're in.
28 and my work is not impressive for my age. I already have the lewd stuff set up under another name and have been trying to do it on the side for the past year but it's sort of gotten to the point where non lewd drawings are dead weight. I never seem to be able to fully finish anything and when I do it's not good enough for a portfolio. The work and commissions I get from sfw have been quickly outpaced in terms of money and the amount of time it takes me to complete them, and like I already said there's minimal demand or interest as opposed to the other stuff. I always thought that I never wanted to be a lewd artist but lately I've been thinking about how it becomes a chore for me to draw something non lewd and finish it when I seem to be able to whip out the lewd stuff to a higher level of finish than I've ever done. Maybe it's because I pressure myself to much to make it look good for a portfolio or maybe I'm really more into drawing porn and I've been lying to myself?
I'd be a good idea to ponder on that dilemma of you before deciding anything indeed. Personally I also realized drawing lewd stuff to be more fun and easier but deep down I know this isn't what I truly want to do, but perhaps in your case it is? Gotta think about it.
As the other anon said, using a different name could be a good idea if you have a problem with mixing NSFW and SFW stuff together before you come up with an answer.
28 isn't too old at all man, I was expecting something like 50.Don't worry about your age, I'm pretty young and not too good either and I start making excuses about my age as well when I see people like Nile. I'm pretty sure Lava's in his late 20's and I remember Firez being pretty old too, age doesn't matter as long as you put in the work. Secondly, I think porn commissions will always outpace regular commissions for people just because that's what people want.As for you lying to yourself, idk if I would say you're lying to yourself but maybe you just don't enjoy making non-lewd art because you don't like the end result. What were your initial goals when you came into art and what are your goals now? At the end of the day, if you're not happy with your art there's only one way to fix it. Practice.
That's the hardest part, figuring out whether I'm really on the wrong path and fighting myself, or whether I'm just at a temporary hurdle. I've been focusing on getting good at illustrative work, I'm not much for concepts. When I started I wanted to draw comics and that's a pretty hard industry to get into since print media is really struggling now. The hilarious thing is just as I was really considering giving up on that, maybe in favor of doing porn comics, I got an email from someone looking for some comic pages and another at the same time from someone looking for some hentai animation stuff. I have a devil and angel on each shoulder like a real life sitcom.
>When I started I wanted to draw comics and that's a pretty hard industry to get into since print media is really struggling now.
Just food for thought but aren't web novels or whatever it's called getting more popular recently? Literally comics or manga-like stuff but read on internet.
no girls on internet amrite? well meme'd
Yeah but I don't really have the kind of time it would take to build up a webcomic enough to be lucrative. Unless I did a porn comic which given how my commissions along those lines have gone, I have a feeling would get a lot of support really fast. But comics are time consuming so if I started one I'm not sure I could take on much else. I did work for an indie comic for a while before and it left me very very little time to do any other art work but paid me enough to make up for it more or less. Whatever I do right now is crucial, I've got to have a solid support plan. Porn looks promising but I know there's more money to be made in clean art, if you're good enough to land jobs. Maybe I could get there in a couple years by doing the porn, but then I'll have a porn history and I'll be older so I'd better be damn good. Either path is such a gamble.
A gesture should be done in 30 seconds. After a minute to two minutes tops it's a sketch. The focus of a gesture is to quickly capture information about the pose, no detail. Try to keep it to that.
Semantics. If he's spending 30 minutes on it, he's missing the point of it. When he gets better at capturing the key notes in a short amount of time, then he can spend longer building his gesture into a drawing. For now I'm giving him a stepping stone.
Nobody is looking over his shoulder. Behind the walls of his own home he can spend 30 minutes trying to 'feel it' if he wants if it helps.
In my experience 30 seconds was pretty difficult starting out but I can do it with ease because I practiced gesturing without worrying about time because at the end of the day nobody cares and nobody really sees the gesture unless you show people.
2 minutes each.
The purpose of a gesture is to create landmarks that you will build into a drawing. When you're drawing a gesture, you shouldn't be worrying about capturing detailed anatomy. Usually people start by placing the head and drawing a "line of action" which is a term you can look up for more explanation, but they draw a line from the head to the foot where the bulk of the weight is being supported. They might then indicate the tilt of the shoulders and hips and move on to indicating arms and legs. This is all usually done with a few lines and abstract shapes, sketched lightly and not erased. Usually corrections are made by going over it in multiple passes and making it darker gradually. If you're struggling you're likely focusing too much on trying to make things look like muscles and fat etc. Try to stay loose, focus on the landmarks, and allow yourself no more than 2 minutes which will be hard but you need to practice it to do it.
how did he attempt to an hero? turn of your trip and delete your post you dont want this tagged to your name.
when parents feel they've lost control they tend to get angry, they are scared shitless more than likely. my cousin used to be a heavy drug user and his sisters life was a nightmare to, i'm sorry you're going through that.
I know its very reddit. but I'm getting paid $75 for this
75 dollars for mediocre memes....theres a chance for me, thank you so much you have shown me its possible thank you.
By not getting clients from tumblr or DA, (unless you are tumblr/DA famous).
and also (and I hate to say it) experience, I made a lot of mistakes but learned so much along the way
These guys understand, although I feel like I'm in this weird line between a hobbyist and a freelancer where a hobbyist finds this rate impressive but a freelancer makes 2-5 times more than I do