HE TRAIN FROM CHILD
10k PER MONTH
>tfw fat, broke kv NEE (Training 4 art)
>tfw already fucking 24 yo
>tfw no japanese high schoolers wet for my art and money
How do I catch up /ic/?
Im seriously willing to do anything.
>ITT: plebs thinking he really did that at 12 when he can't draw a proper face or hand without reference today.
>people thinking a 12yo writes in italic
>people thinking it changes the fact that he can't draw a single thing without refs or tracing.
damn /ic/ is not smart.
There is no way he did that when he was 12-13, the fact he had to mention it makes him sound like a faggot even if it is true.
Also even if he did do it then, his art now is shit. Clearly his fundamentals didnt teach him to make good art
>but kr0n told me it was true, it has to be!
If he lies about tracing, he surely lies about his past works. Pic related is from 2009, note the difference in how he hatches between those and this image.
> 12 years old
> draw this >>2355854
> 18 years old
> draws this >>2355911
No fucking way, that hatching on the skirt and in the background looks horrendous as hell, no way he got that worst in 6 years.
I don't mind believing he was that good at this age, but literally nothing today and with this older drawing shows that's true.
>drawing stylized shit from imagination after academic study
He studied in Surikov institute. Architecture.
Is in US art education really so weak? This is >>2355854 average entry exams for shitty college. People should draw like this in 15-16 yo. In my school there was art circle where 10 -14 yers old kids study art and draw sekkou boys from life. Jesus, I need time machine.
Some of the works he posted seems to be on this page.
Text on the left :
working high school students
> 12-13 years old
> high school
It makes no sense to lose all your ability in line confidence and cross hatching. This skill does not vanish over time. I know kids can be that good at rendering at a young age if forced into it (see pic), but this person has not been
Drawing from life is easy. Drawing from imagination is hard. Ateliers and fine art schools are full of kids who can do pretty impressive still lifes but couldn't draw any decent figure from imagination. Much like /ic/ actually.
>It makes no sense to lose all your ability in line confidence and cross hatching.
Fine artists learn to copy what's in front of them. There are thousands of artists who can do a nice pencil rendering from reference who can't draw shit from imagination. Not to mention that drawing digitally is much harder than drawing with pencil on paper when it comes to hatching and line confidence. So obviously his pencil drawings from observation look much better than his early digital work from imagination.
Seriously, how new to art are you? Most people can do decent looking studies within the first 6 or so months of picking up art, but are completely terrible for several years when it comes to drawing from imagination. Some never get good at it at all and stick to copying what they see.
You're comparing a quick, shitty doodle of his to a several hour long, finished still life. I don't see any amazing hatching skills in his still lifes either to be honest. They are just decent, finished renderings. The skill difference between his life drawings and his work from imagination is pretty much what I would expect from most fine art students who spend 99% of their time copying what's in front of them.
Have you watched Proko's christmas special a year or 2 ago where he painted a reindeer from imagination? Yeah, that's the skill level of fine artists who never exercise drawing from imagination. The difference between their pencil work from life and their work from imagination is like night and day. There are hundreds of thousands of these type of artists. Why do you think all art directors explicitly say they don't want to see life drawings and studies in portfolios?
How come people on this board suck this hard at drawing?
How can a kid be so much better than everyone here? And we're not talking about some prodigy here, he's normal
I really feel like a lot of these are totally okay artistically.. like the one of Hermione, Rachael (Blade Runner), the girl in the grey sweater and the cosplay ref... But I guess part of the problem is that he sold most of these as prints, which would conflict with some copyrights.
having it open on another screen while you copy it directly line for line is basically tracing.
studies imply its for yourself and kept to yourself, and if shown to others you explicitly state it was a study of X
studies are not
>post image on X gallery
>enjoy the likes and follows, and possibly income
>get called out for it
>i-it was just studies guys, i-it was just for me!
Because there is but you can't search for shit.
As much as I would hate to see you dig your grave deeper I will personally say that Krons work does look good and at least he adds more facial features and a painterly style to his art.
The problem I have is him being a hypocrite calling others out when he does the same.
Why /ic/ decides to roast on him and Sakimichi when they could be drawing is beyond me, these threads are just as bad as the E-clebs on /v/
I stand by what I said. This isn't like that middle eastern guy who runs photographs through a filter, don't be autistic, there's obviously a huge difference between the two pictures even if the silhouette is very similar.
>there's obviously a huge difference between the two pictures even if the silhouette is very similar.
You can't be that retarded. The lines aside from the sameface are exactly the same shit, and even the shading have lots of parts like the tits that are pretty much the same shit.
This. Everybody knows kron is a liar, stop wasting your time
reminder that the kron defense force could be giving you advice or asking you to post your art the next thread
>the kron defense force could be giving you advice or asking you to post your art the next thread
I'm not worrying about posting my work, what I am worried about is that they just very well may be giving advice to other unsuspecting Anons.
>the lines aside from the sameface are exactly the same shit
Wrong, wrong, wrong. Her arm is longer, the finger near her gooch is different, she has a more pronounced clavicle, a visible deltoid muscle, as well as knuckles and her hair isn't 1:1 either-to say nothing of the lighting and rendering which is obviously completely different throughout with few exceptions..
>in before "none of that matters"
Just admit have shit observational skills.
>reminder that blind underage memerinos that obsess over internet celebrities when they should be drawing could be giving you advice or asking you to post your art the next thread
I doubt anyone actuallys wants to study fine arts even if you want to use it to get good for your personal stuff. This shit is soul crushingly boring and kills your art drive,and it doesn't even help me draw cute anime girls.
just a personal experience is all, been studying fine arts as long as I remembered,pic related was done 2 years ago in high school
What you should do is get a real job, wake up at the age of 40 and realize that you hate your job, quit, get good to professional standards within 4 years, and become Jama Jurabaev.
>Why /ic/ decides to roast on him and Sakimichi when they could be drawing is beyond me, these threads are just as bad as the E-clebs on /v/
Artist from way centuries ago, did they copy other artist works as well? If they did we would have a lot of Mona Lisas from diff. artist calling it a work of art.
The reason Anons here roast Sakimichi, IIya, and others is that they are great artist painting/drawing but they spend time recreating other peoples IP characters. On top of it selling those "fanworks" or whatever they call them for profit. They may be able to get away with it since they probably aren't in the U.S..
While aspiring artist or other struggling artist are advised to be original and to not infringe or break any IP copyright laws.
No matter what artistic industry or field an Artist is in, Anons here express that artist should always strife for originality.
But artist like Sakimichi, IIya, and others from the evidence and research provided in these types of threads they lack originality.
P.S. Does anyone know what kron looks like? doesn't seem he wants to be taken a picture of? I wonder why?
>Ask yourself that same question too.
He has two selfportraits published damn it!
About the bashing he already explained himself here.
However instead of using that opportunity to learn from kron and maybe pick up tips about how to market onself you chose to arrass him (pic related).
No wonder this place can´t improve, fucking trolls ruined it.
>TPP copyright muh fanart
Don't try to tell artist what they need to draw, shitter. And fan art industry lives in Japan perfectly fine. Anons here roast Sakimichi, IIya because of envy and dunning kruger effect. And most people here are 20 yo kids. So enjoy fanposting and relax. It's relieves stress after drawing.
>Artist from way centuries ago, did they copy other artist works as well?
>P.S. Does anyone know what kron looks like? doesn't seem he wants to be taken a picture of? I wonder why?
As I expected - reddit shitter and newfag
>someone believed in my RP
You're bad at RP and your writing style sucks. Try to steal some pixiv sketches and pretend as being pro artist. It's works better and you can give bad advices for keks
Oh I understand. Trying to convince yourself of that so you can´t avoid taking responisibilty on treating a successful artist (Ilya) like shit.
He handled that like a gentleman no wonder he deserved his pen-name a true "prince of the crown". A kronprinz.
>While aspiring artist or other struggling artist are advised to be original and to not infringe or break any IP copyright laws.
It's not their fault you chose to drik the kikke's load.
If you think this is good you're decades away from making it, it's kids art and not particularily gifted kids, just average high-school art level outside the US.
It really isn't strange at all, he's just another drone that had to reprogram himself to be able to draw the chinese cartoons he wanted to draw after years of being told "just Loomis man, everything is possible with Loomis" and then realizing he didn't know shit about design.
Instead of learning design through study he traced, got caught, apologized, made even more fans, and is now living confy drawing his chinese cartoons and comic covers.
The only thing not average about this story is how much money he makes, and how much /ic/ shitposts about him which may have to do with how much money he makes.
there was a kid at ringling that had studied art in schools like that his entire life.
He could render like a mother fucker. But he just had absolutely no creativity at all. All of his illustrations looked amazing but were completely lacking any originality or soul. It was the saddest thing I had ever seen.
You can learn a lot just by grinding studies and art. But there are just some things you can't learn through academics.
I was reading mysterious girlfriend x recently (protip: the adaption is kind of shit) and noticed this after looking for fanart. Makes me wonder how much is just copied shit in his portfolios (the old one with his old edgier name whatever it was and under kronz). I know he copies from anime screen shots, scanned manga pages, artbook pages, movie screenshots and flickr photos.
Start building that visual library. Drawing what you see and committing that to memory in order to serve as a tool for your own problem solving are two different things. It's like, what would help you learn more: copying down answers given to you just so you can say you wrote them down, or looking for answers to the questions you have so that you better understand your subject of study?
don't you have something unique or interesting in your brain that you want to draw? if you can make something without having resort to staring at pre existant things then that would be a good start
Interesting to me yes, but I don't know where to draw 'unique' things from. I find it really difficult to form a finished piece or to know how to construct an environment or anything, I end up just staring at a blank page and doing bargue plates or drawing from a reference.
I'm trying to do this now. Feels like a lost cause though
Oh the first picture is from imagination and the 2nd is a photocopy. How does that show any progression at all? Show 2 photocopies or 2 from imagination. Anyone on this board can get the same progression in a day if they wanted to. Just do a quick 15 minute sketch from imagination and spend the rest of the day grinding on a B&W photo. BOOM INSTANT PROGRESSION. So skilled! Amazing artist!!
>trying image search
What the fuck google?