>You drew everyday for a long time, longer than anyone else. Congratulations. You are the best.
>Update every day at: http://www.lavaflake.com/draw/
>The deadline for submissions is 00:00 GMT each day
>You should spend at least 30 minutes on each update
>Miss a day and you can make up for it the next day with a double post.
>Miss another day within a month and you're eliminated.
>Progress updates are ok but they will be policed like other submissions
Entry into the second challenge is open until Saturday at 00:00 GMT. People who join after then will be entered into the less awesome Last Artist Standing #3.
From last thread:
A new week of drawing is upon us, comrades. It's maybe a bit early for that, but who do you think put the most work into drawing this week? Who shows potential as of now? Any favourites?
>get shit on for not making new thread when bump limit is hit
>get shit on for making new thread when bump limit is hit
>mfw im /ic/
Congrats on week 1 homies. And Lava man, thanks so much for this. I'm not the competitive type, but this has made me more competitive with myself I guess. Draw up to 5 of these 30min sketches a day now and post the least embarrassing one, and then in down time I either start work on tomorrow's or grind fundamentals. My wrist is sore but my heart is swelling.
something did break but i can't quite figure out why. the script worked yesterday but when i run it today it eliminates too many people. the only difference is that there are now two challenges running but the script doesn't care about challenges, only if the person has submitted.
tldr it's going to take a couple more minutes. on the upside the script didn't run too early \o/
I like the idea of a challenge/theme but not as something separate to the main competition that I have to split my drawing time with and as long as it isn't mandatory.
Just like the first few days were jokingly sonic themed, a few people worked it into their normal submission and that was pretty fun.
>but this has made me more competitive with myself
I posted, I drowing 4-7h a day for 6 months and I still suck, but I know how to draw to impress normis. But...but...I will nnever know how inpress /ic/?
My goll is to be ok porn artist.
O yeah, sorry for my english, but I'm rely drunk.
fixed it. it happened because there was this narrow 1-2 second window where someone could miss a day, post and not be eliminated. i fixed that but it accidentally broke the "don't eliminate them if they posted" part.
this should be the last of the elimination shenanigans
the goal is to implement topics in a way that you never have to post more than one drawing a day. the way i was thinking to do this have challenges that require you to draw the topic and if you don't then youre eliminated from the challenge (but not the last artist standings).
that should give us some challenges that have a higher turnover rate so there can be more winners cause odds are people arent going to want to draw the suggested topic everyday for years.
on the site side you'll just have to check a box saying "my submission is of today's topic" or whatever and people can police it with the tribunal/report system.
that's why topics are so delayed. there's no way to police/enforce it without either turning this into a full-time job or having a group of superusers/moderators and I want to avoid both things
yep you can still join. you missed the deadline for the original challenge (not even an hour ago) so your submissions will enter you into challenge #2 where you'll compete with all the guys from #1, people who were eliminated from #1 and other new people
Is it possible to submit without putting in a URL to your image? Since you can choose file I thought you could just upload directly, but it won't let me get away without putting in a URL
What were you thinking?
Weekly topic would be cool, so you only need to dedicate one out of 7 submissions to it. Any more frequently than that would be too much control over what I draw, but not participating would trigger my ocd hard and make me feel left out for not doing it.
unfortunately no, the site is using the cheapest hosting option available ($1/month for the first year) so it really can't handle being an image host. It's struggling to keep up with the ~4k hits per day and that's using roughly 3% of the data it would be using if it were an image host.
if the site keeps growing to the point where it needs funding then i'll throw up a support button and switch to a dedicated server and i'll make it an image host so you can upload directly to it
>you missed the deadline for the original challenge (not even an hour ago) so your submissions will enter you into challenge #2
>got my shit submission in just before the deadline after procrastinating all week
>now I'm locked into drawing every day
>there is no escape
Well, if it comes to that I'd gladly donate some cash to keep the site going (and expanding). I use most of my money on unnecessary stuff anyways, so it wouldn't hurt to lose a couple of $ and support a good cause.
yeah once you say "i want to participate in a topic challenge" then that's it, you're in. if you miss a day or if you don't do the topic them youre eliminated from that challenge.
there won't be a token system for the topic challenges so theyre more hardcore but they are optional so if you sign up for one then ditch out it wont affect your last artist standing.. standing
what's your username?
yeah it looks like you tried to submit today's submission before it rolled over so it updated your old one then you reposted it today so it was in there twice. I deleted your submission from today if you want to resubmit it and if you can give me the one from day 7 I'll put that back too.
i'm going to have to create a maintenance mode for the site when it rolls over. the main issue is that the server will say it's 30 seconds from midnight but if your computer is 30 seconds ahead then that's tomorrow for it.
i'll just lock the site from 00:00 to 00:01 and let the scripts run then unlock it
No worries, it's just some extra steps to upload to imgur anyway
I'm okay with donating a small amount at some point and with ads, do what you gotta do
Thanks for putting in your time and effort, if you ever have any specific code queries I know a lot of us code.
I think I'll fail by Sunday because I'm a lazy shit on weekends, but let's work at this together.
fyi if your pc's clock says it's the next day but the is still saying "update your submission" then refresh until it says that it's a new day. nothing i can do about the time difference between the server and people's pcs
ps the challenges page has been updated with stats:
i think it'll look cool when we're 10 weeks in and as you scroll the progress bars get smaller and smaller as more people are eliminated
the one from 7 is still there last I checked, thank you
I actually submitted day 7 like 20 minutes before deadline and nothing yet today
thank god I noticed that now and not in like 22 hours when it would be almost too late
>tfw you see someone post an amazing submission
>tfw you get self-conscious because your submissions are shit
no it's ok you would've been fine. the issue isn't that you couldn't submit, it's that you had already submitted for today except it was yesterday's image. 22h from now all youd have to do is update the old submission with the new one and you'd be good to go
i'll look into adsense although i dont want to make the site look like shit
all the images in the gallery currently have thumbnails except one (which is a black square) and I think that's because of how that image host formats their URLs. I may be able to find a work around for that but if not I'll have to blacklist them from the autogeneration
yeah I can do that
>all these great submissions
>even the submissions from artists weaker or less experienced than you show better grasp (or attempts) at perspective, construction, line confidence, etc.
I'm glad every entry is just a reminder of what I need to work on.
Everyone starts somewhere dude. Could be worse, you could be me.
you will improve so fast you wont believe it
How to win vs 150 this is like Naruto and I'm pic.rel.
shiki is the lazy smart guy, you wont "win" by lazily submitting shit, you will only feel the crushing feel of regret.
Thank you, anon!
I like it, much clearer. But I'd like a counter somewhere on the profile so you can also see how long the person's been going, when the days get too numerous to bother counting. No pressure though, it's not important and it'll be a while before it takes more than a minute to count.
I don't have much to teach, sorry. With that image I was thinking of how the hue and value change with the distance. So I used a lighter value and bluer hue in the more distant areas to help them recede, and tried to make the foreground "pop" more with warmer hues and darker values, and higher contrast in general. I think the low horizon and big sky and clouds contributes a vast feeling, but in reality I was just too lazy to do something more detailed.
>don't know what composition is
You have a lot to learn, dude. Are you sure you want to make a living off of art? You don't seem to care for it at all, I'm sure there's easier methods if you just want money.
tfw your drawing looks much better in person than in the photo
today i'm going to work on making sure that the elimination process doesn't blow up tomorrow like it has the last 2 days.
tomorrow i'm going to add the ability to follow artists
after that it's a 1-3 days on the report system and then finally topics.
If I can get topics in and tested before last artist standing #2 ends then the next week will be a topic challenge. if not it'll have to wait another week
no offense to what youve done so far but with the amount of time youve put in you should be much better than you are at this point. it's possible you bought into the "draw every day" mantra and you were hoping that would be enough. if you want to start making them porn dollars any time soon youre going to need to start studying the fundamentals.
luckily for you a lot of the studying involve drawing tonnes of naked people so being a good artist fits well with your being a porn artist goal. go check out the beginners sticky to find the resources that will help get you started
Better find out what you wanna do with your life. I know people in my art classes who were in their late 20s and early 30s that couldn't draw for shit but at the end of the year, they were better than most of us and they had a full time job and kids. Thing is, they'd share their "secrets" and it was basically a lot of drama among the family and job cause all they'd do is draw all day and night.
As for "composition", that will come in time. Just keep drawing. But know you'll need to sacrifice a lot if you intend to git gud.
just realized that you may not be the artist i thought you were. there's someone posting terrible porn and i thought i saw their name mentioned in this thread.
my bad if youre actually getting good
It's funny how you're literally in my situation, and even the age. I had the exact same issue in trying to grasp "composition" as well. Too bad we don't have a discord we can chat over, but then again, I'm sure it'd be filled with shitposting.
1 drawing a week / 4 drawings a month.
I have noted somewhere the deadline for each drawing.
Example for January : Sunday 10 17 24 31.
Study art everyday otherwise, often related to what I want to achieve. "I want to draw some feet doing this with a ball" -> study feet during the week.
That's how I do things and intend to keep it for this whole year, I found it rather well balanced. Hopefully I manage to keep at it.
Studies come first then you try to take what you learned from those studies and apply it to the fun stuff, better yet if those studies were in preperation for the fun stuff you wanted to draw. You wont get nearly as much mileage vice versa.
>implying some of us won't still be posting centuries later
>implying some of us are bound by time and space
Im gonna shit on you fools like RoboGabo shitted on everybody at CA.org.
>implying I'm not some immortal bane on humanity with nothing better to do than to post artwork to some inane challenge for millennia on end
See you in 9016, faggot. Oh wait, I wont, because you'll be dead.
>mfw i accidentally delete the entire thumbnail archive
>mfw it was 10 minutes after a backup and i only lost 4 thumbnails
>mfw i'm still stupid
if you want to hit update submissions and reupload it for me and save me a minute that'd be swell
alright so the gallery might show up with no thumbnails for a couple mins in the near future as I migrate the changes on to the live server. if they stay white for you then press CTRL+F5 to refresh the cache or clear your cache manually. It'll be in 5-10 mins and should only last for a couple seconds
>mfw my drawing looks okay-ish in person but like complete shit when I take a picture
>mfw I draw light construction lines that aren't too noticeable in person but the camera does some csi shit to them and makes them 10x as visible
I'm sorry for making you guys look at my art...
yo is there something wrong with the website? When I go to quick submit it says I'll be entered into the last artist #2 but I haven't missed a day since I started. Plz don't do this to me lava.
The rest of us may as well drop out, we're completely outclassed here.
If you do that everyone that submitted before you wins. That what you want, loser?
I bet my balls that he's probably been submitting nothing but thumbnails rather than urls to the image this whole time.
To be honest it is kind of confusing if you don't read it, the file upload button kind of implies that you upload an image.
As an aside I don't like how we're forced to upload a thumbnail when php is capable of constraining images as far as I know automatically; try and look into that if you could brobocop!
it already does if you link to an image file directly but it's far from automatic. you have to get the file, determine the type, resize, save it, delete the original. and that's for submissions that are direct links to image files.
if you want it to work with tumblr/DA/imgur then you need to use regex (to my knowledge) to parse the ID from the URL and then feed it through each of their APIs to get a link to the image file. even that wouldn't be so bad if there werent a dozen possible URLs that you need to match so it becomes a nightmare to write the regex unless youre like a wizard.
if i'm lucky then somebody has already written that regex and i can probably get each site working with a couple hours per site. if not i'll have to do it myself which will take a lot longer.
best thing i can do for now is make it more obvious that the thumbnail is optional if your submission directly links to an image file
Damn it, I don't feel like going to sleep but I don't know what to work on. I have commissions I could work on or other pictures I could try finishing or I could sketch something new. I can't decide.
>put off joining for almost a week
>just submitted a shitty scribble minutes before the deadline
>getting shitfaced and shitposting rather than working on more shitty scribbles
>/ic/ are you even trying?
why am i in the second group?? i have posted 8 times in a row without missing the deadline...im thinking about not doing this any more (stil drawing everyday but not posting to a glitchy comp board)
>jumping at the first excuse to drop out
Perfect. It's for the best, really, we both know you never would have lasted anyway.
"group two" is anyone who has just started participating in week 2 (now) + people who were eliminated on week 1 (last week) and are re-entering this week. "group one" is people who haven't been eliminated yet who started prior to today. you're still in "group one" anon, if you posted any time in that initial 7 days, and continue to post from there on
Thumbnail submission hint:
>"The thumbnail must be smaller than 4mb. This field is optional if you're submission is a direct link to an image file (a thumbnail will be generated for you automatically.) "
change to "your submission" instead of "you're submission"
God, how can you still not understand this?
Imagine you're in a racecar race, like Mariokart or Nascar. You go around the track one time, that's lap 1. You go around the track two times, that's lap 2. You're still in the same race, it's just counting how many times you went around the circle without crashing and burning. Do you get it?
day 3 for me, but wouldn't it be cool if you get "extra points" if you write like a little commentary with your submission, like what were you concentrating on, what was giving you troubles, something about the piece itself.
I would really digg that.
I'd like to see some minor notes added to the submission. Something limited so no one puts up a life story of what they are drawing.
I'm trying to draw some furry shit right now, and I'm having trouble in certain parts. Still a beginner, so it overall looks like shit, but there's some major weak points I'd like to get over before tackling every other weak point.
example of someone who has not completed any challenges, was eliminated. did not finish week 1, and is not active in week 2
are you at least aware that this is how it is for everyone that's been going for day 1? that everyone's in the same boat as you? you ARE on the second lap. are you trolling or something?
Entering the race, should I strive for more complete work or more of
>as much shit as you can draw
When you're on user.php the dropdown (settings and logout buttons) in top right menu doesn't work for some reason.
Works fine everywhere except when viewing users.
Just a minor bug but y'know, something to add to the evergrowing list of things.
I would like an advice because I fuck this up in everything
Whenever I start adding highlights and then start evening out the colors so that it blends in, everything start to turn into a huge fucking mess
also I am getting
>Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 67108864 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 22696 bytes) in /home/lavaflake/public_html/draw/dashboard/index.php on line 85
When I try to update my picture
Save highlights until everything else is done. Try not to blend them at all except where absolutely necessary, and keep them on their own layer so that you can easily erase or modify them without affecting your underlying work.
You could also try separating the highlights into two layers: a bright, colored, soft edged mark (play with layer opacity and layer mode), and a brighter (closer to white), smaller, crisp core to the highlight that's painted opaquely on a normal layer.
Really what you want to do is a ton of still lifes of objects with different reflectivity, and practice painting highlights that way.
I don't know. Seeing the amount of shit being drawn y so many people, every single day makes pretty much everything seem so bland.
My shit included all I can see is uninteresting pictures with no value whatsoever but everyone of us secretly wants to be that special snowflake which nobody will end up being.
For not liking drawn pictures anymore?
I mean sure I might be very wrong about everyone wanting to become better than most but you'd at least want to become as good as you can or else you wouldn't be practicing.
If you could see into the future though
and see that even after reaching your absolute limit, you're barely mediocre, would you still pursue this hobby?
Force yourself to get better at something you will never be good at?
Why not just draw for the enjoyment of it only when you feel like drawing?
you seem to leave out the fact that the minimum requirement is 30 minutes spent on your drawing, anon
the goal here is not to be perfect from the get go but to start drawing every single day
how do you do, fellow not loomis :^)
hmm i know what's causing this but i cant figure out how to make it stop. i'll take a closer look at it tonight
you guys seem to have figured this out but it looks like there's still some confusion over how the multiple challenges work so here we go (i'll add a better explanation to the site too):
entry for challenge #1 was open up until friday night. anyone who entered during that first week and who hasn't already been eliminated is still fighting to win challenge #1. the only thing that's changed between this week and last concerning that challenge is that no new people can join. it'll take a long time but there will eventually be a winner
the reason this new challenge exists is because we needed a way for new artists and the previously eliminated to join in and give them something to fight for. those people can start submitting to the new challenge.
so if you're from week #1 this means your daily submissions will keep you in the original challenge and also enter you into #2. if you some day win #1 then you'll get a badge on your profile and you'll be the sole survivor to drop down to #2 and compete for that against the people who are signing up this week.
i think the best way to clear this up is to add a better explanation in the FAQ and to update the quick submit form to better show what your submission will do (keep you in the first challenge, enter you into a new one, etc)
what's the file size? i ran into that error a couple times and i never did figure out if it was because the file was too large or if because the upload failed. the error stopped happening so I couldn't test it
yeah it's the token system we've been using to eliminate people. if you join the competition and miss a day you can make up for it with a double post. if you miss another day within a month then you're eliminated. because of there be multiple challenges at once the whole elimination system is based on your account, not the individual challenge.
ie if you're eliminated from one main challenge then you're eliminated from them all. so if you don't "redeem" yourself with a double post to stay in the challenge then you will need to double post to join a new one.
i guess we can vote on it. it's easy enough to change it either way so I'll let the group decide:
ps I'll add a little notification or something so indicate if youve used the token, if youve redeemed your account with a double post and when you'll get a new one
You're saying participants who entered in the first week are still fighting in challenge 1, but my submit prompt read "Submissions will enter you into Last Artist Standing #2." when i submitted my pic today. What gives?
dont bother, you will never work as hard as me.
Wait, does that option appears if, lets say, you posted on day4 of week1, and then forgot to post on day5, day6 and day7? Because then it would let you post day7 and day8, and you would be in week1 again... right? Idk, I'm confused.
Oh alright, i thought it would reset each week.
So the make up is now to redeem for being eliminated from week 1 rather than to make up for a missed day.
So do i still have the token then? Like if i miss a day in this week, will i be able to make up for it or i will just be directly eliminated till week 3m
if you post on day 4 but dont post on day 5/6/7 then you're eliminated from the original last artist standing. no matter what you do at this point will get you back into it so pretend it doesn't exist.
since today is now day 8 your submissions will enter you into last artist standing #2. the same rules apply as before.
what people are currently voting on is whether your mistakes of the past (getting eliminated from #1) should affect you in the future (needed to double post to enter challenge #2)
sorry I completely forgot about that, I'll add it to the list. i don't want to add it without a lot of testing because the secure login is closely tied into the "login without a password" system and a mistake could cause those people a lot of trouble.
Unrelated: I've added a little notification on the submit form if you've used your token and when you'll get a new one if you have
pretty much yeah. the system itself is fairly simple (can be explained in a paragraph) but it can't really be intuited since i'm using familiar words in unfamiliar ways
weekly challenge implies there will be a new challenge every week that lasts a week, being told your submissions will enter you into a new challenge implies you've been eliminated from the old one, etc
the best thing I can do is make an infographic-style main page that explains the system and at the bottom have the signup form. the page was born on /ic/ but I still feel so bad using everyone here as alpha testers. i'm hoping that within the month it'll be feature complete and something that an outsider can understand without needing to read thousands of posts on an image board
Maybe you could add a "consecutive days / current day" counter to the dashboard to put peoples' minds at ease or something.
I think a lot of people saw "week #2" and thought "oh no i was eliminated all my progress is gone".
if you update your submission it won't double post, it updates your already submitted image for the day.
what's the error message you get when you try to update? the only issue i'm aware of with the update system right now is that if you link directly to your blog or whatever and you want to update that submission you'll need to provide a thumbnail again (even if you had already submitted one and don't want to update it.) I'll fix that
For some reason, under "Active Challenges" on my page, "Last Artist Standing #1" is duplicated three times.
I think at that time my updates were misinterpreted as entries? At any rate, it's not a website-breaking bug, but just wanted to let you know.
Damn, today was literally a race against time... Came back from work 40 minutes ago. No scanner or tablet, so I had to take a crappy photo.
This is sort of a "believe in yourself, you can do it" kind of thing for me, so do you mind telling me:
> time spent drawing (in months/years)
> average time spent drawing per day
This is my favorite error so far.
Actually that's one of my concerns.
I'd be pretty upset if some rusemaster cunt decides a good use of his time to be wiping the database somehow or hacking and destroying the website.
i do twice daily backups and ive had 3 people test it for exploits and so far it's locked up tight
also i cant figure out wtf is wrong. it should work fine, nothing has changed where it's not working. this might take a min.
Are you counted as eliminated as soon as you miss a day, or only once you can't redeem yourself with your token, like if you miss two days in a row? Hopefully they were just forgetful and can still redeem themselves.
4 duplicates removed, 4 more dead
you're eliminated if you miss a day and you don't have a token
if you miss a day with a token then you lose it and you have to "redeem" yourself by double posting to stay in the competition. if you don't redeem yourself then you're eliminated. if you have redeemed yourself and you miss another day but you haven't gotten the token back (30 days after you missed the first day) then you're eliminated
i never understood why people are obsessed with sonic until i drew him for the first time like a week ago when this started. i dont know why but i thought "i want to get good at this"
The fuck is up with the double post feature? I posted two images yesterday and it said I was in the clear and had a green header for the submit form, kept trying to post just to check, now it says I missed yesterday, what's the haps?
Son i'm seriously concerned about your life choices, we need to have a talk, come to think of it, why don't you call any more the least you could do was add your father and me on facebook and liked some of the cute pictures we posted on there you have no idea how hard we work to support you and now you're thinking about becoming an artist why don't you be like your friend and find a real consistent job you should have majored in science or engineer or whatever and had a solid job higher education is important you can't neglect it if you want a nice, safe, six digit salary so you don't have to worry about money how are you going to support us when we're old how are you going to support yourself what if you get in a car accident and you don't have insurance honey also why aren't you married yet where is your girlfriend you know that taxes are higher for single people are you weird or something? it's alright if you're gay son i don't mind but everyone needs that certain someone special in their life everyone is going to grow up and have their own family and you can't just mooch around your friends you need to think about raising children and what if you had a heart attack in your house it would take days for someone to find you you have to stay safe, also don't go out too late when you're living alone alright people get mugged and murdered i know you're not a girl but you could still get raped it's really not safe especially with all those weird perverts on the onlines you have to take care of yourself remember to eat three square meals a day, you can't just wake up at noon and shove hamburgers in your face you've got to eat more fruits and vegetables, and those superfoods like kale and barley i heard that in japan they have this awesome food called nahto or something like that and everyone in japan lives to about 95 so you should look into that bottom line is take care of your body also i found this cute picture i thought you'd like it
>and what if you had a heart attack in your house it would take days for someone to find you
I think about this all the time.
I challenge you to find a better teacher [spoiler] you fucking can't [/spoiler]