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I'm trying to copy Darkest dungeon style over that scene from "The Road to El Dorado" and i want to animate it.
I want to ask.
I'm on the right path?
Can you give some tips?
It looks like shit?
By the way i'm using mouse and photoshop.
Just wondering what color do you guys think complements White the best?
Personally I think Red really pops
>those are for work
you're saying someone paid for them or you're some company wage artist? because don't take it as an offense, but you really don't seem even close to a professional level
i posted in the draw thread as well, but im guessing it belongs here more so..
>you really don't seem even close to a professional level
Are you blind? His rendering could easily land him a company job. That just goes to show your own shitty knowledge of the job market. You might want to start doing some research.
drawing giant boobs squishing on the floor from the side feels weird
eh, might scrap the whole sketch and go for a more fisheye lens effect cause the dynamic angles would be way more fun
Unless that's suppose to be Jessica Rabbit, that waste is way too think for my tastes, kek. You really should look into studying value more though if you haven't already. Your construction method and lines look pretty solid. Adding values will help pop your forms more.
I wouldn't call that full retard. It's pretty simple and readable. I dig it.
You're a fucking idiot.
It is probably too late to fix anatomical mistakes but still wanna finish this. This is like my3rd attempt at a colored piece and I'm having difficulty making it not flat.
I am going to try to make a real background this time. I found some good refs to steal. I guess more coloring tomorrow.
Is it supposed to be missing a pinky?
Judging by how her hands are the pinky would be visible in that gap opposite of the thumb, unless its touching her ring finger or she's a 4 fingered person.
Instascum filtering and brush aside, thoughts?
lol.. fan art to attract people...lol
I know chicken scratch...
I think it's looking better than the horrendous initial sketch but then again I'm still slow at identifying my own mistakes..
Looking cuter desu, but you still have to fix the jaw to unfateen it. and turn her eye a little inward and lower it like 4px
Things like this are why people give you shit, firez. You were told exactly what to do to fix it, and the response? More turd polishing. Learn construction. Stop deliberately cropping images to hide what you clearly do not understand.
Thanks, I think I kind of see it now,
I hardly rendered it more than it was instead I focused in fixing the proportions and perspective.
Thanks I will try to revise it tomorrow, this was the 1st sketch: >>2349204
Do you feel so empty that you consider yourself an endless abyss? oh well..
Pic related is something I resumed from a sketch in order to use it for a song I finished recently. I will probably reduce it scope I feel at loss in many parts.
im trying a new style and am currently struggling for the first time in months to find a style for the eye. I have done roughly 30 attempts and have yet to be satisfied. I have tried to draw over the previous eye and getting a better and better eye but it isnt working either. Will not let go until that eye is drawn within the new style and at a decent level.
At this point, im willing to take suggestions to be honest.
It may be that ive created an eye with no good looking coherent representation at the angle that i want. which i know shouldnt exist. God Im gonna go back to it now...
there ya fucking go firez, thats nice. good job. If you didnt ref thats a good improvement. I tried construction and symbols. fuck my life.
i think you are worrying too much about an eye and about a style, to be honest!! i think you should just drop it and move on, draw a different face and a different eye. don't try to force a style, just draw what feels natural. it might not be what you want at first, but it's OK to have drawings that you're not satisfied with. just keep making /new/ things instead of fretting over one thing for a long while-- you'll learn more that way.
Just sketching some more animoo
I like your style, good balance between manga and western, I do think you should up the contrast thought since you have two very direct light sources.
These are pretty bad. I am still learning how to do digi lines, and I'm trying a bunch of new stuff. My traditional inking is noticeably better, but still pretty amateur.
Anyways here are some things that work for me (they might seem a bit obvious)
1) Do your initial sketch on a different layer, then reduce the sketch opacity, make a new layer and ink on top.
2) hard round still ends in hard round, so I use a hard round eraser to make the ends more acute (pointy) if the line doesn't terminate into another line.
3) I try to do similar traditional inking tricks like "webbing" intersections. Basically anywhere that 2 lines meet at an acute angle, I fill in a bit more
4) Other traditional tricks I picked up - I add small scratches and panel lines to imply form
Did some shading. I was working on the BG, and I have never been so bored in my entire life...
BGs are so miserable
I guess I'll finish up tomorrow
NEW CHAPTER FUCK YEAH
Thank you so much based malaysia
went back and tried to push it farther
you're actually right, i'm kinda stuck between a rock and a hard place because the way i like to draw heads is leaving me with ???'s as to how to represent it properly from the angle i want to. maybe i'll just go full side view, it'll be simpler, but the character has a big pony tail that would get in the way of the composition i'm going for, haha
or i could just leave it as is and keep going cause nobody would care really, but then it'd be wrong and it'd have a really bad tangent between the chin and the shoulder and it would drive me crazy every time i looked at it ;-;
>longer palm and impossible hand position on top guy, try it yourself, if its not 2 fingers it really hurts.
Not the OP, but I can make all of those hand poses myself without issue. Do you have arthritis or something?
Watercolors. I can't into cute, the figure is skewed too. It's nice to practise anime on this medium though, will try it again.
>look at how far your second finger goes up
But...it doesn't at all?
I think this is just one of those things that's different for everyone, like how far you can splay your fingers or something.
source material on anime seems to favor my version.
The most popular Josei mangaka (Karuho Shiina, Yumi Unita, Chika Umino, Akiko Higashimura.) are in their 30s-40s.
Even Ai Yazawa was in her early 30s when they started publishing Nana.
I will try, even though high contrast and soft shading never turns out the way I want it to for some reason.
Yeah, I understand if you're going for a low contrast look. It's something about the face that bothers me, though. Perhaps it needs to be lighter. Take my critique with a grain of salt though, not sure myself.
You really need to fix the anatomy. Even stylized you wouldn't be able to bend like that. It took me a second to realize it wasn't strange mermaid/merman with a huge tumor on it's back. (Because the back looked more like the front anatomy wise.)
Lmao really? Stylization still has grounds in reality bruh. Your spine would have to be snapped to bend like that, and extending your arm in that direction. You can exaggerate things without looking broken as fuck.
Look really shit redline(not claiming to be a master ) but if you just move the neck you can still have exaggeration and the face. Also you can totally ignore this but unless her tits are really saggy, her boobs would bunch a little more at the bottom and top. Mine's a bit off but maybe you get the idea. The other problem is the chest would probably be more curved the other direction than straight up in that position.
And there are copious amounts of blogs dedicated to making fun of them. What's your point? This is a critique board. It's for improving your art, just because some "pros" do it doesn't mean it's an automatic pass that makes it not look like shit. The person who posted the image is talking about pushing perspective and using a fisheye but if you don't understand the basics of not having your characters spine broken they'll never understand how to push their style well. If it's just for hobby, grand! My input should just be tossed out the window, but if they want to improve, you want to be able to break things "aesthetically" that way it doesn't take away from the picture.
I'm saying he needs to fix it because it looks like shit. Regardless of it being stylized. Lmao lemme guess you're one of those kids who draws really shitty anime and cries about "muh style". I'm legit saying yea you can stylize things but his honestly looks like shit. The problem is the first thing you see is the broken back with the tits melting off the torso. Yes you can push stylization.
But if you do, whatever you broke needs to have some balance.
I'm not sure if you're the original artist or just a rabid fan with a boob inflation fetish, but between the two of us either way you haven't got any idea what you're talking about.
>And there are copious amounts of blogs dedicated to making fun of them. What's your point?
Like Eschergirls, the blog that tried to claim that Kinu Nishimura couldn't into anatomy. Those blogs only ever make fools of themselves. Do everyone a favor and fuck off with your dumb nonsense.
Any help? Also, who are some good artists to use brushes from? I'm using Ahmed Aldoori's.
The fact that you even tried to mention those blogs as if they are valid at all means you're opinion is already worthless. No one in their right mind would take you seriously.
I wasn't taking about a certain one, I was just saying there are tons out there.
But please tell me about Muh Styles
You're a stupid novice pretending you have intermediate knowledge when you don't. Shut up and draw faggot. Grind enough and maybe one day you'll be able to give critique worth a damn.
Not any of them but there's a difference between stylization and actual lack of knowledge. If you can't tell the difference (which in this case was very clear) then you shouldn't be critiquing for everyone's sake.
I can pic I already posted related. That's what it looked like. I'm fucking laughing though because you plebs think that person has any knowledge? Considering that's not how tits work, that's not how your back works, that's not how a neck works, that not how most of anatomy works. But please feel free to engage with me further.
It's not bad if we're all retarded together. I'm sure with enough man power we can beat two trees.
None of that is going to stop me from fapping to it when it's done.
Guess I'll add a background or something
oh, fair enough. I thought you were talking about the position of the subject. Well I changed the bg. I got the strong light source thing so I tried to change it to show hard light. I could cut down some of the top area but idk if that makes the picture look better if I cut off that negative space.
It sounds like you keep going back to your sketch to fix stuff. That seems like a tedious way to go about it. Why not get the sketch to a point where you're absolutely satisfied THEN start rendering. That way you're not polishing a turd. This looks better than your usual btw
bad use of negative space >>2352746
good use of negative space >>2352786
and your reasoning is?
They took a step back and improved their piece, what's your deal in all of this? Who are you helping with your post? Who are you proving wrong?
Go draw instead of being so angry at the world.
>resorting to stutter posting to hide your lack of knowledge
The amount of negative space is unchanged, whats being done with it has, but that's not an issue of negative space, that's an issue of having a bad background.
The amount of negative space as well of the way it goes into the composition is correctly done.
Who are you helping with your horrible critiques? nobody, in fact you're confusing them. The fact he was able to fix it is irrelevant to the fact your critique was absolutely horrible and misleading.
tldr, you're a fucking idiot.
>tldr, you're a fucking idiot
everyone here is a fucking incompetent idiot that doesn't understand shit about drawing. that's why we're here instead than makingmoney on patreon
so please stepping out the line of bearable faggotry at every given chance, because this has become just pure elementary school "NO U!" bitching.
>no its everyone that's an idiot not just me!
its a critique board, giving horrible advice and telling people to fix what isn't wrong is detrimental. just post your art in the beginner thread while not replying to anyone.
>The amount of negative space as well of the way it goes into the composition is correctly done.
Dude, you're so angry you're not making sense.
The negative space referrers to anything that's not the subject which in this case was used to set the mood, the drawing had no "background" as in any solid object or wall and was just light, the streak of light was awkwardly placed and what I wanted them to do was to re-position the streak and crop the image.
You're just spewing random buzzwords to sound smart when you're barely making sense, your replies boil down to
>you're a retard!
but when it comes to /you/ actually criticizing their artwork it's just a jumbled mess of comas and buzzwords, take a breather and stop being so angry, you think you know better than everyone but you don't.
>buzzwords and commas
why can you not understand english?
>Negative space refers to anything not the subject
okay? the amount "lots of negative space" was not incorrect, what was inside the negative space was bad, but that's not "negative space"
>background is a solid object
background is anything that exists in the back, ie the light stream. it was bad, but not negative space.
>you're posts are just insults
maybe because you're incapable of understanding that you don't know what negative space in despite telling people to correct it.
fuck off kid, you're helping no one and your over defensiveness of something you got completely wrong isn't helping your case.
So you want me to spoonfeed people?
You think good critiques come down to redlines and paintovers?
I thought there was too much negative space (referring to anything that's not the subject) and wanted them to crop it, yeah, the fact that they found a better use for it doesn't mean what I said couldn't have worked.
>maybe because you're incapable of understanding that you don't know what negative space in despite telling people to correct it.
You tried explaining why I was wrong (emphasis on "tried") but it just came up as a nonsensical burst of anger and buzzwords.
>you don't know what negative space [is]
>Negative space refers to anything not the subject
No, what you need to do is stop giving people bad advice on topics you don't understand. And now you're resulting to pretending anyone who disagrees with you is just spouting buzzwords despite telling you precisely how you're an idiot.
But this is /ic/, I can't be surprised I'm dealing with an idiot incapable of logic.
Just fuck off or get a name so we can filter you.
>And now you're resulting to pretending anyone who disagrees with you is just spouting buzzwords despite telling you precisely how you're an idiot.
>Just fuck off or get a name so we can filter you.
>we can filter you.
As far as I know the only one using buzzwords because you don't even understand how to use English.
And wow, look at that crown rallying behind you, you are so knowledgeable that something as simple as negative space triggers you so hard that you make it so overly complicated just because you want to feel smart.
>despite telling you precisely how you're an idiot.
Oh yeah, you sure told me with your "you're stupid!" and "you're retarded" Very compelling first arguments. I bet you can't even quote where you "told me precisely how I'm an idiot."
You sure hate /ic/, you hate it so much that you want me to get a trip so you can keep lurking. How pathetic, but you love this, don't you? You love the attention.
b-but he's a baka who just doesn't understand!
It's not l-like I'm just trying to get his attention...
>tfw I got the whole adobe suite as a gift, but still only use my pirated copy of SAI because the interface is much more user friendly
>tfw i have never received a gif in all my life
mail something with improper postage, and it will be shipped back to you
its kinda like getting a gift
i think i'm gonna call it done here. any critique on the style specifically would be helpful, i feel like i've just been winging it for the past few months!
thanks! maybe i'll increment save next time and compile them into a process picture. it's funny that you say it looks like it was done in flash! flash was my main sketching and drawing program since i was 14, but within the past year i've switched over to photoshop because i felt i was stagnating. the lack of opacity in flash has sort of carried over to how i work in photoshop, i think.
>critique on the style
Hmm, I'm kind of liking the previous version without as much outline desu. Something just works better with the simplicity.
Your style's pretty cool though. I'd love to see a gallery page if you have one.
ive seen it, i have no reaction to it nor do I know exactly what it is you see, but i want you to know that i acknowledge your drawing since you clearly put some effort into drawing it
Drew this during classes for a daily doodle and could only take pic with phone. oh well.
Not sure how to approach cute. Creating faces viao Head to Hands and learning from Hampton on the construction of the face as well as Proko for portrait drawing. As to how to make a "cute" and simplistic face, I'm not sure.
the way to approach anything: literally copy pics that look like how youd like your stuff to look like, do a page a day at least and make mental notes of things, eventually youll come up with your own construcion and cues and will be able to draw 'cute' from imagination
Woah, don't scrap this.
Turn it into a praying mantis monster babe.
That's what the proportions/lengths remind me of, especially the smaller head combined with the thin waist and the longer arms/legs/body.
Just needs some changes so that it has mantis booty sticking up in the air, and so that the arms/hands look more raptorial.
>Yu Yu Hakusho
oh yeah, i was gonna do some arm anatomy tutorial for you but my computer crashed like 3 times while trying to do it and managed to corrupt the file the last time, sorry about that ;-;
(also i don't have a blog yet)
i'd suggest http://kitasite.net/b/musmob/ tho (use google translate)
i was pretty much just paraphrasing what they do, but with a lil more emphasis on how forearm muscles work in regards to rotation of the wrist
(also be sure to cross reference all their diagrams with photos of actual humans, i suggest people with a fair bit of muscle tone so you can more easily make out which muscles are which)
should i go with the upper one or just stick to the lower one
getting real tired of this...
I'm liking the lower one better.Upper one just seems like too much, a little bit of an angle outward of her left leg with it coming back in would probably suit it more. But of the 2 choices, bottom looks better.
Updating. Any advice on how can i make this image more appealing ?
I don't care for drawing or painting. I use video to express my failings.
I appreciate the red line, however with it you aesthetically destroy the state of being that I'm aiming for, I do try to grasp the fundamental corrections of the red line but as a beginner I frequently fail at this
In part is what I explained before, I do a sketch, finish it thinking it looks correct and then start developing it along the way i notice I either destroyed the proportions due to my work and/or my sketch was simply not correct.
Idk but I kind of love this sisyphean process, I feel isn't as bad as it was in the past
It honestly doesn't feeeeel finished. I love what you have going there but it needs more. Patterns maybe in the clothing and scarf. Perhaps a graphic element or more rendering. That style reminds me a lot of Jumei. Take a look at her stuff and see if you find any inspirations.
Also I finished this shit finally.
I wasn't too sure what was wrong with her face so I sketched out the basic and found that the angle of the eyes was slightly off, her chin is too high up which was throwing everything off and neck's too stretched out.
Hope this helps.
There's not enough color balance in the picture. There's just straight up green everywhere, with no interesting colors added or any contrast. It's ugly. Look up other artists and how they paint landscapes.
made a windwaker version of some internet girl. guess ill post it here?