Hey guys, wanting to be a manga artist using type B4 paper (

Picture got turned upside down. B4 paper on left sorry guys.

>>2344318
you're still drawing eyes in a symbol way.
draw the eye as a sphere and draw the eyelids over it.

>>2344318
I like the effort, keep drawing bud

>>2344375
and what he said

Got it, now what about drawing in proportion to the paper since I'm going to be drawing in a comic format?

>>2344375
Not going to realism for my style but an Americanized form of the manga style of it makes sense.

>>2344427

Doesn't matter, your stuff will still look garbage until you actually understand how eyes work.

Regardless of what you're 'going for' your eye drawings look like what everyone who's never taken the time to actually learn to draw eyes looks like.

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And when putting eyelids over a sphere it just comes out to looking like the eye from the Flowers of Evil anime.

>>2344427
you still need to draw them as a 3d shape https://youtu.be/Biwd46hfNss flat eyes make your work look like autistic deviant art trash

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>>2344432
more like this anon. didn't literally mean put eyelids on a sphere.
they go over it.

>>2344432

The eyeball fits within a socket. The lid doesn't wrap solely around the eye, it's not a perfect circle.
I really suggest if you're going to draw a lot of eyes that you include the surrounding area. The brow, the cheekbone, the nose. The eye is a part of a whole, and it's easy to build bad habits of symbol drawing eyes when you just draw part of the eyeball.

Also, you can get amazing at drawing eyes and that'll end up being the only thing you're good at if you can't draw and place them on a face. Even amazing eyes look garbage on a poorly done face.

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some anon posted this a while ago, thought it might be helpful

>>2344437
Like this? I feel like I have been doing this without the sphere the whole time.

>>2344444
Not OP, but that'll help my work

Also quints check'd

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>>2344447

>>2344452
not quite anon, im going to say you should practice some fundamentals, then tackle subjects like the eyes or other forms. So you'll have somewhat of an understanding of the masses

The eyes are all facing forward and also looking in a direction. Haven't done much with side views yet for eyes.

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A quick scribble

More people should start with some perspective, it's a lost art among those who focus solely on the figure in an attempt to learn.

>>2344502
True

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>>2344427

Step 1) Read keys to drawing
This book will cure you of your symbolism

Step 2) Read perspective made easy
This book will teach you to think in 3d

Step 3) Study human anatomy starting from basic proportions and simple shapes
This will get you into drawing humans properly

Somewhere along the lines you can study how light and colour works for when you want to render your drawings

>>2344318
last time I worked as a background artist for some doujinshi guy, they used B5

If you're still into this manga bullshit

get what the japanese are using traditionally

those

G-pen, Kabura Pen and maru pen
oceans of drawing ink, and pencils for sketching

don't bother with screentones their expensive for a beginners

>>2344548
Thanks a lot man!

>>2344610
And thank you kind sir. Disnt know what the other two pen names were only knew gpen.

>>2344548

I have to say that "Keys to Drawing" are really good. When I opened Loomis and Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain I was "meh" and didn't really progress with anything. When I opened "Keys" I read first 2 pages and grabbed a pen and did a sketch of glass jar.

>>2344539
Ironic, considering the first one isn't realistic in the slightest, while the second one has a stylized face that lacks form.
At least the idea behind it is correct.

>>2344918
Thanks for the input. Loomis only appealed to me so much with the info he had but I'm going to give these books a look later tonight.

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>>2344539
More from this artist, relevant to your preference OP

>>2344447
No anon, all your eye drawings look flat. They don't trick the viewer into thinking they look 3D. Thats why you construct an eye as a sphere and wrap the shape of the eyelids over that simple form because its easy to understand. You are also missing defining details like the tear duct and eyelashes. Proko has a good video on eye anatomy if you want to check it out.

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>>2344427
This kind of attitude makes me sick. Even in manga they have fucking eyelids and eyes that look like eyes. The reason they draw them the way they do is, because of the type of eyelids that Japanese people have, but they still have eyelids. Even if they don't the eyes look like eyes.

Learn how to draw from life, before you start trying to simplify shit you don't know how to draw yet.

>>2344452
Go and practice drawing fucking circles properly
Jesus christ

>>2344318
blog?

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>>2344427