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Let me know what you guys think, submitting all my shit to art schools right now so I'm lightweight stressed about the quality of my work despite its unique stylization. Never learned fundamentals outside of doing some reading bc fuck the institution but now it's biting me in the ass. I have many more like this if yall want
Well this was on the other thread and I brought it here.
brought over here from other thread, mouth looks really dumb right now
does this look better? it's a pretty rough paintover but placement of everything/ fluidity-wise.
it's camilla from fire emblem fates, not my character. still fiddling with the position of the mouth right now.
ayee will check them out, thanks!
her left or the viewer's left? it's probably worse now, oops.
crits before i move forward would be nice!!
interesting style... i would push the shape design more so it reads better/is more interesting to look at.
Really weak / awkward grip with right hand. Wrist is bent backwards a lot and pinky sticking out for no real reason. Holding up a piece of metal like that you would expect a very firm grip - straight wrist. The shoulder also seems quite far out to the side / low, almost disjointed.
thanks for the quick reply! i hope this is better. i feel like i lost some of the casualness and flow, but that kind of feel is probably not appropriate in this scenario anyway, like you said.
Can someone redline/help me with this? I know something is horribly wonky with it but I cant figure it out. Reference on the right.
Look at the negative space, around the arms, chest, legs, head, etc. A lot of the shapes are wrong. There's some bad angles, things look disproportionate. Spend a lot longer measuring.
here are some rough colours before i go to sleep. i didn't plan it out very well! i'm not totally sure if the BG is working, so any crits there would be much appreciated. and let me know if the rest of it is working OK too, of course!!
you didn't even care about the way the arms fall on the legs, her right leg is completely fucked, her back is wrong, head is too big and neck is too forwards
I don't understand why you ask this, it should be pretty obvious to the eye
Reposting since the progress thread is pruned
Some big anatomical errors that I did not fix all of. Arm too short, (if her left arm is supposed to be facing the viewer, it's drawn very awkwardly) body too stumpy, probably too meaty around the waist (unless that's what you were going for, but the character isn't SUPPOSED to be fat so I assume you weren't going for that) awkward shoulder placements, which in turn makes the titties out of place which I did not touch, boring values (everything is too mid-tone even with all that shading) the unappealing face, the inconsistency of the wind with the hair and fabric on the bottom, inconsistent lightsource (light is hitting the hair/face/body from the left but also light from her back if you look at the upper thigh) You could also work on the expression to something more heroic (I kept it neutral with mouth open as original pic) and a lot of other things.
Finished line work I guess. Added some flat colors. Will work on shading tomorrow.
I need to study drapery and hands...
head angle too low, spine too bent, left leg angle wrong, arms in wrong places and too short, entire chest area is wrong. literally everything is wrong, it's not even worth redlining.
The kr0n thread 404'd while I was busy with my attempt
how do artists draw through line? it becomes a mess and when i erase i sometimes erase wrong parts which i have to redraw and it becomes annoying.
i know that, but at the sketching phase i want to get down the dress and the hair overlapping it, both very detailed objects. how do i draw them both without it looking like a mess?
>Thanks for putting my art in the OP! C:
All the other art ILT didn't appeal to me so I chose the biggest queermo, you. You're welcome.
thanks for putting the effort into a paintover anon! i agree that the arms are too short, but those paintover arms look longer than they should be. i'll make some photo references and change things on my judgement.
a lot of the points are very valid in the crit itself, but thank you for the second opinion.
>tfw one of your favorite artists only draws loli tentacle rape under the name you know
anyone know if hitomaru draws things that aren't porn under a different name?
I was finally able to finish this piece, thank you all so much for the help!
hello phone background. this looks awesome man, do you have more works?
another one so i don't get bored. this time i tried the >>2340441 process and it does help a little, but it's still hard to overlay.
here especially i need help on the legs and how skirt (pulled up) should look like.
are you the metal slug guy from the naughty threads?
Cause it's hard to put things in words once you're working on them.
Like imagine children drawing stuff they think is hot shit. That exists at a developing degree at people who are trying to get good at art.
It's very high key at the moment, which really takes away from the glow of whatever she is holding and the forge. I would try maybe making anything not hit by warm light to be a couple value notches down. Also given how opaque and hard all the shapes are, just doing a very subtle soft brush colour dodge over the glowing stick would probably really make it pop.
isn't samefaggin, i like it, because she doesn't have face, i like characters with that feature, it's misterious and spooky, the style is really smooth/Soft colors too.
In summary is a good ilustration.
The thing is that the light source you're using is pretty damn close to white, so that base color selection pretty much deems the brightness
from there it's just adjusting the values of the shadows (and/or the light source) and color correcting
did i need to make these changes? i don't know, but does the skirt look better now?
haven't drawn in about 5 months...bought a tablet and just jumped in, tips?
this i drew 3 days ago.
and this i drew yesterday
i can't figure out what my style really is...
At this level, don't think about what your style "really is". It is time wasted. Style comes with time and style changes with time. At this point you struggle even with the fundamentals. If you start worrying about style now, you will never get anywhere. Just learn to draw, draw what you find aesthetically pleasing. Forget about style.
clear understanding of form and except for lack of a pelvis its decent anatomy. Theres much worse people in the regular threads that go under the radar. how long are people supposed to stay in the beginner thread. more than a year?
>clear understanding of form
I beg to differ. First of all he is trying to twist the torso but does not understand form enough to show what is in front of what, what is pulling from where and what's compressing and tilting. In order to do it more convincingly he needs to study anatomy as understanding the how and why and where things are and where they're being pulled from will help describe form much better but before that he also needs to understand perspective as well as provide a graceful and unstiff figure.
there CLEARLY is AN understanding of form. Not a good one. but you can clearly see it. besides are you still saying that there isnt anyone worse in this thread (op image) that somehow got a free pass to being sent to the beginner thread unnecessarily?
>there CLEARLY is AN understanding of form. Not a good one.
would you maybe call it a beginner's level understanding of form? that's kind of what it looks like to me! i appreciate that you're livening up the board a bit, but i agree with the other poster in that i find it weird that you tell people to 'graduate' up and out of the beginner's thread when you don't post a whole lot of art yourself. of course, like you say, no one can take away your right to recommend people to and from each thread, but i feel like your time would be better spent drawing instead, especially when you seem like you're just barely out of the beginner's thread yourself :o
still trying to find a good coloring technique to suit my lines
its hell bros
This is as done as I am willing to take it. I tried to BG it, but I gave up
Looks like there are some trolls here... I'll try not to feed them all
The line work was a little thick, I tried to tighten it up.
I noticed her right foot is fucked up too, and the whole bottom doesn't match the BG perspective - next time...
>Blog is here >>2339097
Probably just the trolls
Only because I still can't draw faces
Those colors don't go well together, i would recommend you to use Soft brushes.
i would prefer.
i would prefer a black top, green-dark camouflage jeans,
Dark green for The armor. But's that's just my opinion.
I can't say anything about the anatomy because i can't draw properly.
But i don't like the style.
I was talking about the color scheme.
Just saying "I would rather darker colors" when it completely differs from the original material is stupid. Saying stuff like that in general, even.
i tried to fanart hinata from haikyuu, i dont think its actually bad, but its not good enough, I wanted something much better but I think i always start to do something wrong when painting, the sketch was much better.
always love you lines, they have the "animation" feel to them.
sometimes i even go so far as do to do quick redlines, ive got good tutorials for many common questions that i can link to. I dont see how doing it yourself and wasting your time is a faster or more effective way to go about it.
I had a rim light layer, but it looked like shit. The thick line work on the backside was fucking up the edge. I couldn't figure out how to balance the line thickness with the rim light or if the rim light layer should be on top of the lines
I'm all maxed out so this is as far as I can go
super duper srs, Anonymous.
/ic/ is full of bitter mentally ill failures who can only prop themselves up by talking tough online.
Just ignore it and enjoy the occasional cool picture or bit of advice.
THIS AIN'T A MOTHERFUCKING GAME! THIS HERE IS REAL LIFE! IF YOU DON'T GO HARD YOU DIE (metaphorically), YOU FAIL NIGGA, AND NO SECOND GO 'ROUND. I AIN'T BURYING ANOTHER ARTIST, NOT TODAY! SO YOU GO HARD LITTLE NIGGA LIKE EVERY DRAWING IS YOUR LAST!
I think it's really good and can stand as it is but if it were me, I'd push depth a bit further through placing some of those wisp things closer to the camera. Plus some rim lights to help define the form without being a hindrance to the style.
scribbled a merwoman, the pose is pretty generic so I'm looking for advice
Whenever, really. You'll just notice that as long as your fundamentals aren't awkward, your stylized drawings will most likely not look awkward either.
don't draw profiles and then the rest of the head, it makes no sense, the ear is way too wrong, it shoud be way down and a bit more to the right., and it's symbol is not even an ear symbol.
No forms at all tho
You can git gud by drawing nothing but stylized works as long as you're keeping the principles in mind.
As long as you're not through random shit on your animus and you're keeping anatomy in mind while periodically looking at (preferably real) references to figure out anatomy you'll learn both anatomy while also refining the style you enjoy.
pretty much yeah.
Its might be slower in the longer run, but its not as clear cut as some people on /ic/ make it seems. its not
>then do this
>then do animus
>draw whatever the fuck you want
>while doing studies and research on how to git gud then apply it to what you like
being able to draw realism for example is very helpful when drawing animus, but as long as you know what to draw and why its drawn that way you're pretty much set.
First time on /ic/, hoping to receive feedback for 2 of my latest works. Here's the first one.
And second one, still in progress.
You gotta train lots of fundamentals. I recommend trying Vilppu, Bridgeman and Loomis as well as Proko's videos on YouTube. Figure drawing practice, lots of it, also aim for more confident lines. Most of all, keep drawing
Get proper blank paper to draw on. I also recommend the beginner thread
I'm stylizing a classic kek
it's so weak at forms atm, will work on that next, any input is welcome
I like this. I think the composition could use some work though. Unless you're saving that upper portion for a title or words or something I would crop it. I added some more room to the left and bottom of her to give some breathing room. It could use a foreground as well for some more depth. I added a lighter color to connect the girl and flowers and to make her silhouette stand out some more. The rest I just played around with placing colors in different places. Btw, I bet I know who you are anon. You used to live in the UK and now live in west coast in the states.
The likes and reposts inflate the ego. DeviantArt use to be the place to get that but it's gone down.
Also a few Cartoon Network/Nickelodeon show creators have said that they find artist for their shows via Tumblr. So there a bunch of people on there hoping to be "discovered".
Anysite that allows you to see a bulk of the persons work via thumbnails and they can pick and choose what they want to see with ease is a good art site. Tumblr lacks this and god forbid you are one of those faggot who repost random shit or other people's work more than their own shit. Not to mention people who go all Myspace and have crazy themes and music players slowing down the process.
People hate to scroll through shit. So if someone stumbles upon something you did, trace you to your tumblr wanting more, and they're faced with nothing but scrolling, they close the tab.
The archive mode helps a bit when the artist isn't a repost fiend, hashtags do help a lot but it's not like the archive mode where everything is small and selectable. You end up back to scrolling through pages and pages and unless you really have nothing better to do most people get irked and leave.
Most people have a Tumblr as a more social way of sharing your art and then have a professional portfolio blog like the one you've described. Tumblr is just a good way to find artists and get found. The thing about Tumblr is that a lot of people seem to only focus on singular blogs, when the pull of it is the constantly updating dashboard. It's not about what you have 10 pages back on your blog, it's about what you're putting on other people's dashboard right now.
People complain about good artists that reblog stuff instead of just posting their art, but these kind of people are great. One of my friends who has something over 10k followers and contacts with people at Disney reblogged a dumb short film I made and my follower count increased immensely. It turns making contacts into the gift that keeps giving, people sharing your work removes some of the trouble of actually networking.
the only way to get attention whores to fuck off is completely ignore them.
your anger just makes them feel important.
don't worry anon, if someone feels the need to get attention on 4chan of all places your life is probably heading in a better direction than theirs.
i already have multiple times buddy. Heres something i gave up on yesterday.
God damn you need to seek Loomis in your life.
honestly i dont see any sign of me being dis-humble as well as dont think that crowning a name is wrong if youre bad. I think everyone should have a name that way we wouldnt shit fight so much. What is gained in i/c is ruthlessness, but i dont think thats due to anonymity , i think its due to 4chan itself.
Id say keep posting with a name, but choose another alias to go under. Otherwise you'll always be known the dude who's nagging other people to post their work.
Sure if you want to become some sort of pseudo meme here on ic as the "post your work bloke" then go ahead and stick with it, but it wont help you
is that all? this is the work that gave you confidence to speak up as if you were leagues above me, why do you have to post a completely different medium to throw me off too?
Unrelated but you should retake the picture. the light kills it for me.
its too late people would recognize me. I dont mind being hated or being a meme, the more im hated the more i know i have to improve. If someone spends their time explaining why im bad then all the better. I'll be good eventually.
>Comparing yourself to a pro athlete
Yeah sure I'll bite.
Shit comments like that or "why don't you make your own" or anything along those lines is childish. The person saying it can't handle the thing they like or in this case their own drawing being criticized harshly so they jump to a line to shut the person up so the feel comfortable again.
Telling someone who criticized a millionaire who throws a ball if they could do it too is illogical. That rich asshole has had years of training and still sucks when compared to his peers, the person pointing this out is did not have the years of training but still have the their own personal tastes to say whether not not that person is garbage.
Just like how your drawings are shit you still give critiques and advice because despite your lack of skill and practice you still have a level of taste and an eye for art.
But you still get but hurt when you see harsh critiques give towards others or yourself and like a little kid you go "Well, show your work."
Childish safety mechanism for your ego.
The people who shit on others around here are no better because they're mostly harsh due to not being able to excel in some way shape or form. But they too have taste and an eye for art to have an opinion no matter how tactless.
Wait a minute, if you're doing this for attention so that people will tell you what's wrong with your work, why do you always deflect their criticism by saying post your work or go down some other line of defending what you drew? I remember seeing a whole back and forth between you and someone else who critiqued your drawings so it didn't look like you actually wanted critique to me.
Where are these so called critiques i received? received nothing but insults on sketchwork because i dont want to post the same work everytime i get called out. When i SHOW OFF MY EGO, or rather, give insight i am specific in doing so, i dont try to help bbc because i know i cant. You dont need pros to comment on noobs works. But these people would rather insult the person than the critique.
Doesnt change the fact that the pro athlete doesnt suck. doesnt change the fact that my comments are legitimate ( which is why nobody critiques my comments) but i am not ( but the people who have the time to insult me dont have the skill to critique)
Nigga don't even try. This whole thing started because you posted "Beginner thread" to an anon like you're some hotshot.
Where was your constructive critic to that anon? No where. You weren't helping them you were debasing that anon who posted.
The reason why people shit on you is because you're constantly running your mouth and when told to fuck off or called out you cry "post your work" Stop being a heat seeking faggot and maybe you won't be attacked so much.
i wanted a just below the knee perspective but fucked it up, i dont mind being hated or a meme desu. i was gonna reference to fix it but it was too late by then so i quick colored it and threw it in my trash collection
itll be my mission to eventually outskill myself out of being a meme then,
Hi, I don't draw very often but I do a bit. Everywhere I read that adultos humana are right heads in proportion and teens around seven. What happens to me many times is that my drawings tend to hover around six heads (or six and a bit) and I read that six heads is for characters below ten years old. Ignoring the flaws that come from my lack of experience, many of my character drawings look pretty much like teens. Is there something inherently wrong with six heads proportion when drawing teens? Does it look okay to me because they're just standing, they're manga or because I am being indulgent with myself? Do they look wrong (proportionally speaking) to you?
Also, any recommendation for these specific cases?
I don't usually post here, this looked like a good place to ask, please excuse me if it is not. Also sorry for the quality of the pic
I know the hands and arms are shit, and the general inking is shit. Anything else?
Looks like she is being strangulated. The perspective is fucked, the facial features are on the wrong plane--everything is bad.
And why is she naked? Stop being so sexually frustrated for just 1 day.
i can kinda see that
>Perspective is fucked
can you redline it for me? Maybe give some tips?
>Facial features on the wrong plane.
I can see what you mean there
Thanks for the critique!
Btw, whats with the ant image?
the filter made the nose redder than i'd hoped. Anything else I should work on?
kinda reminds me of this pic.
the guy was 19 when he made this.
Oh, he's pretty legit.
I wish I gave a shit about art when I was 19. had a lot more free time back then. But the same resources weren't exactly available back then in comparison to today either.
>But the same resources weren't exactly available back then in comparison to today either.
Bullshit. You kids can pirate all the $1000 courses and you still can't get good because you're stupid.
Copied the shit out of a nivanh chanthara robot I found on Pinterest. My new goal is to ink as well digitally as traditionally.
I think I will try to color it tomorrow
So how do I decide what ratios to use when designing a cartoon character. How do I decide the shapes? When I look at different drawings the head shape is always something different yet always reads clearly and is appealing, when I try to do my own shapes and not copy what I see in other artists, it looks like a Dunwitch citizen. I can draw realistically but this is a whole different beast to me.
Awesome drawing. Great detail. Look good. Amazing. Pro. Keep us all posted on your continued studies with any new progress pics or art crits. Show us what you got man. Wanna see how freakin' good, amazing, painterly and pro you can get. Thanks for the motivation.
>pic related; could be you one day
stop self projecting, I'm not looking for hugs,, I'm posting because there are annons way better than me who can help
it's not a secret what is referencing tho
Even if it seem little to none progress between pics there's a lot, but inking on digital is shit with photoshop, if you're tired of my post ignore me, it's never gonna be worse than shitposting like yours desu senpai
so what? what are is exactly the truth you're fighting for? It's obviously a clasic piece converted to animu, in fact the first post image is called classic_animu, because that's what I am doing with it