I don't know what my goal is, I need to focus on something, I don't know if I wanna make comics or animations or illustrations or whatever, I just wanna get good, I really need something to focus on I started drawing to get good
>>2321335 >only thing i'm good at >one of the only things i like doing >i want to draw porn of my waifu (pic related) who never gets porn drawn of her >want to create things that look nice >want to draw pretty girls
To not be a worthless piece of shit. I just want to achieve something creative. Generally I feel like all I need to live is internet access and an apartment with a bed, but there is still a feeling that I'm stuck inside my own head because I can't express myself. Any cathartic release has to be found through consuming media. If I can create my own expression, I think I'll have a stronger sense of myself and be more fulfilled.
>4 y/o in school >no friends >Boys beside drawing pictures of WWE wrestlers and DBZ >Not sure how to "social" so i imitate behavior >draw muscular men violently assaulting each other >show them. >turns out i'm good at drawing >instant friends
20 years later...i guess I draw cause that was the earliest form of validation I ever received? Still chasing the feeling I suppose. Also gay now (to the surprise of no one).
>Why do you draw, /ic/? It started out with me opening the sticky 1½ years ago. I had never drawn before that, except very rarely as a kid.
Then i started battling inner demons to make myself draw more. I had weird spurts where I would draw 8 hours every day for weeks with pure practice and study sessions, while having months of almost no drawing. What disappointed me was how easy it was for me to work 14 hours every day for a month on a game, but I struggled so much with art.
So for about year I had slim-to-no progress, obviously because I rarely ever drew. Then this summer I finally started drawing passively again. I am starting to understand why I could work on games so much but no art, and now I am applying it to drawing. I've had success with a few 5 hour sessions, but I still need practicing to practice.
My progress is pretty good now though, I'm actually happy with what I draw in my comfort zone, naturally I expand it. I have a lot of artist friends now, too. Some people, both artists and non-artists seem to enjoy my sketches though, so I feel like I finally got across the first hurdle.
I'm obsessed with art, I don't know why. But I'm feeling more hopeful than I have in a very long time.
>What is your goal? To get a style where I can draw things quickly, while getting the idea across and it still looks good by style. It's a hobby more than anything.
I paint so that my anxiety doesn't get a chance to operate. I paint so that there is a trail of something left by my existence other then hours spent consuming. I paint because words are empty. I paint to make yellow scream with energy. I paint to leave echoes in your mind. I paint to create Vortices.
>>2321335 I worship Vilppu. When I die, I will go before him, and he will ask me "What is the riddle of feel?". If I don't know it, he will cast me out of Valhalla and laugh at me. That is Vilppu, strong in his feels.
I read somewhere that before you try doing japanese style drawings you should learn classically. Basically I need to learn how to draw because of the game I'm making. I desperately want to replace the shitty placeholder art but learning is incredibly slow.
>simply just like it >relaxing >don't know how else to get any ideas in my brain fleshed out >shit at photography and keep noticing nice compositions I never manage to capture Also >>2321681, It's the only thing I ever really received any validation for so that might play a part in why I enjoy it or something.
My goal is basically to be able to draw what I want without it looking like fucking shit to me. And that point does probably not exist as I am a bit of a perfectionist.
>>2321800 Focusing on the now, allowing my mind to enter a sort of meditative state. Games are relatively easy to do it with since you have a shitton of things you can to remember and think about, so pretty much all your thoughts are about the game.
Im trying to improve my anatomy, once i get the hang of that ill get a tablet. Any tips of improving your anatomy? Other than that I'm interested in sci-fi/cyberpunk related character and environment design. Recently started again though, so I've got a long way.. I know I'm bad at making faces, so i just scribbled the face a bit.
>>2324031 You should probably work on your lines and ability to convey volumes before you start worrying too much about human anatomy. You've probably heard it before but check out something like Scott Robertsons How to Draw. Vilppu would also be good as he goes over drawing 3d forms before starting with the actual anatomy.
>>2321335 I wanted to make comics. at the moment my goal is starting to draw porn for money because I'm unemployed and I had enough of working as subordinate for subhumans in hominid jobs. not believing in myself at the end of highschool and preferring wage slave life to putting effort in drawing was a huge mistake.
>>2321335 2 years ago made a pact with a couple of my friends,that we'd all work hard enough to attain godhand. there we're 3 of us then,1 died last year in a car accident and the other of cancer last month. and by utter coincidence due to medical issues,probably wont live to see 40.
i want to attain godhand so i can make comics and communicate my ideas
>>2324875 i was joking around for the longest while on this but since the first one died,i started getting serious with it. feel bad that after 2 years i have barely even one years experience to myself,im trying to catch up first
>>2321335 >Why do you draw, /ic/? I don't even fucking know why anymore. The harder I work to achieve my goals, the more it seems like I never, ever will. Literally every time I sit down to draw I have to stop and go take care of some bullshit. I finally had a free week this week to do shit and my back fucking went out. I can't even sit up straight to draw something so I have to waste all these days just staring at a wall. I'm starting to believe I'm actually destined to fail at everything I do.
I've always had a bit of an active imagination, I have a lot of vivid dreams and stuff, and so I've always wanted to see those ideas realized into works. And also it's very fulfilling to make a completed piece.
Wrote for a bit. Even though the earning ceiling with writing VASTLY outstrips that of visual art (unless you're dead), it's easier for me to stay motivated when I can see physical fruits of my labors. Plus, it's also easier to make a living on creative stuff if you combine writing and art, rather than rely on one alone.
>>2325125 >Even though the earning ceiling with writing VASTLY outstrips that of visual art
Maybe for the top 0.1% of authors who are world famous, sell millions of copies of their books and have movies or tv shows made of their work. That's not really a realistic goal to have though, so I don't know why you'd even think about it. At any other level, commercial artists make far more money than writers.
>>2325089 Exactly this. Hopefully I can someday make the stuff from my dreams in a story or something, but I've been attacked too often for the content I have drawn so I need to improve a lot before I ever publish stuff.
>>2325194 It's too risky to think you can make money of it, there are few successful ones but they are very good. If you're not at pro level you wont earn anything, you're better off working in a coal mine doing manual labor if you intent to make money with it.
To become a great artist, maybe earn some money on my hobby too. Kind of my dream as a kid to become a comic book artist and in the past couple years, it's been coming back again. Thus why I've dusted off my old pencils and papers and started drawing again.
>>2321335 I want to make short comics and sell prints and stuff like that at anime conventions. Also, want to design characters for a short pixel horror game or something. That or a dating sim. Those are kinda all I have for goals right now. Pic related, my art.
>>2326674 Sorry to hear that, famalam. Revenge is as good of a reason to get better at drawing as any, but unfortunately unless you become really godlike she'll probably always get more positive reinforcement than you will anyway so you won't be taking anything away from her really.
>mfw a girl sent me a nightmare before christmas picture she drew and I was like "Hey, alright!" and she says [sic] "But is just alright?"
sounds like it'd be motivating for a while but doing things because you're bitter not because you're interested is usually a bad idea. You're willing to spend months and maybe years on improving a skill just to feel smug for a few hours until the person stops giving a fuck?
>>2326711 >but unfortunately unless you become really godlike she'll probably always get more positive reinforcement than you will anyway so you won't be taking anything away from her really. It's not really about revenge. It's something I've always wanted but never had the time for. Now I kinda do.
I want to be able to create and design characters and places to serve as vessels for the retarded amount of stories and ideas in my head...that's the main reason and goal.
But when I get in a funk and don't feel like I can take myself seriously as an artist, I revert back to drawing lewd animu girls and hentai. I've been doing it since I was like 12, and I'd be lying if I said I wasn't wanting to improve in this aspect as well. But both are achievable by mastering the fundamentals.
Honestly, my artistic pipe-dream is to make a beautiful, traditional cell animated, feature length movie with a compelling story, in the vein of Katsuhiro Otomo's "AKIRA", and other similar animations. That's like, bucket list material for me. Letting my art tell a story, and letting it live on past me.
>>2321335 >why draw? Enjoy improving self in every aspect I can, its also fun like playing vidya, feels good when you draw something and it turns out good >goals To get better at drawing and make dank OC for anons on 4chan
Unless you currently are, or were a professionally working writer (like I was), I think I have a better idea of what it'd take to earn more writing than with art. I'm not going to go into the long explanation of why you're wrong here, since this isn't a writing board. Suffice to say, you can earn a lot more with writing than you think as long as you don't shackle yourself to the outdated "try to sell manuscript to publishing house" model.
I have tons of awesome ideas for things I want to draw. Like I can almost visualize what I want to draw in my mind. There's only one problem though: I can't draw for shit. I suspect it's going to take me a really long time to get to the level where I'm going to be able to draw the kind of stuff I want to.
I feel that my art is special because it is a sincere investigation of the nature of female beauty and, in particular, oriental, eastern beauty. I don't draw people in anime style because it's convenient to do so. I am earnestly interested in figuring out what works and what doesn't and giving individuality to different people either painted from observation or imagination.
>>2327079 I mean this in the nicest way possible, and I'm only saying this because I wish somebody said it to me when I was at your age/stage:
Drawing the human figure is too advanced for you now. Stop drawing from photographs. Your work is way, way too linear. There isn't half enough of a tonal range there. Even basic things like the hands aren't done well there.
It's obvious you're trying very hard and doing all your work from photos. Life drawing is how you improve. And draw simple things. And "I can't draw faces" is what lazy amateurs say; if you want to, start doing it and do it on a very, very regular basis.
Best of luck! You can get better, its all just practice (but the right kind).
it just makes me happy I've never really been able to pay attention to anything or even really get into, but when it comes to art, I can paint something for literally 12 hours straight and not get tired of it. I'm pretty shit right now honestly, but at least I'm not deluded
>>2321335 I draw mostly because it's fun and it's something like a form of meditation for me. It helps me to relax too. And my goal is to paint, and if it's possible animate, my dreams so I can watch them again whenever I want.
>>2327756 Oh I guess a variety of fluctuating reasons.
I used to want to vidya art. I was into FFT at the time and I really liked the art style. I was into monsters and such. Then school kinda envolped my life.
Then I wanted to draw because I wanted to draw sexy girls. not really porn but sexy girls, because it was a real challenge, and then I started to work on anatomy and all that. I haven't improved much, but I'm getting there.
I used to get nervous when I drew because I'd always read a bunch of tutorials and look at the sections of drawings when people would set up and I think I'm just now gaining freedom without laying down a shit ton of guide lines. I'll probably still have to draw a couple hundred muscle people and skeletons before I get good at this.
Now, I have a lot of tech (Note 5, Wacom Lappy, iPad), and I just don't want to waste it. I suppose my current goals are being able to make really quick confident drawings so that I can get something like a pusheen blog up for my girlfriend so that she and I can have something to do together. I'd also like to do design work in my spare time, and a bit of animation too.
Plus, I'm going to school for software and I'd like to design software for artists so that people like youtubers can do their craft faster.
I feel in a hurry because I finally want to have the skills to bring something decent to paper. But that's counterproductive because you need to concentrate and make sure you do the exercises deliberately and only go to the next one when you really mastered it and not just rush through the book.
But when it doesn't go smoothly and I have trouble I get frustarted at my ineptitude. And when I improve I don't feel happy because it's barely anything compared to how good I need to be.
Pluck away at it every day, try different approaches until you find one you like. I remember trying to force myself to do gesture and it felt like pulling teeth, I hated every second. Same with doing precise lineart. So I started painting instead while I found my feet because I felt more capable of doing stuff with values than with lines. Once you have a method you're comfortable with you can expand, but you'll have a fallback for those uninspired or impatient days.
Also, if confidence is low try and keep things simple. Sometimes you have really ambitious ideas but it can be better to save them for when you're in a good mood with high energy, because things will inevitably go wrong with complex pieces. Sometimes all it takes to get your confidence up is do some simple stuff until you can do them well. I did a lot of skull studies and knights, personally. Whenever I was having an off day, I had things I'd done enough times that I knew I could do them and feel a little better about myself.
This advice is coming from a relative beginner too, though. It's less my "how to git gud" and more my "how to stay sane and start enjoying yourself".
>>2332145 Really? Let's say I want to design a car from scratch. How would I 3D model it without being able to reproduce it as a drawing? I could take an existing car model and play around with it but this is limiting. Or if I wanted to design and model a character. Again how would I do this without drawing skills?
>>2321761 Dude are you me. I have that same story expect I haven't started getting back at it. I have more than enough free time, so I dont understand what's holding me back. I'm getting so tired of myself.
>>2321335 Because it's fun, I do it for fun. Why do I go on /ic/? because I went to art school yet don't care about art for shit and I find you guys amusing. I'd probably focus on art if I wasn't focusing on science though.
I have an ideal. I admire Kim Jung Gi's ability to draw from imagination. I want the freedom he has, to be able to picture anything I can think of, to make whatever medium I hold a slave of mine, and to no longer be a slave of my own ignorance and lack of visual libary. And then I wanna get even better. But get this ability is a huge goal, heh. Right now I just wanna get comissions.
Ever since I was a kid I've wanted to work in the cartoon industry. Just had stories I wanted to get out there. Once I hit Jr. High I was accepted into a talented art program. I didn't take it seriously, my dreams started to die out because I thought it was childish. In high school I had a terrible teacher that busted my balls and broke my spirit with everything I did, alienated me from the other class. The whole experience made me leave the TA program and completely drop art as a hobby. I felt as though to be a cartoonist you had to be fine arts master, and since I failed high school TA I realized my childhood dream was completely unrealistic for me. Then I focused on a career in business once I got into college. I was never good at anything else in school, no notable hobbies. I began to watch some of the newer cartoons and my love of cartoons came back once I found out there were other people around my age who liked the shows as well. I began to follow the creators on tumblr and other social media. I realized these guys weren't some artistic gods that had to go to good art schools to get into the industry, some of them never even went to college, they were just pulled off the internet for their good work.
It was then that I realized why I did so bad in talented art, I never practiced. Once I was done with it I stayed away from touching anything art related. She wasn't a bad teacher, I was just a shitty student. I realized I was heading down a path a lot of people do: study for a job you know you wont enjoy just for the money. I decided I was going to do with my life what I wanted to do in the beginning, no matter the pay.
Since then I've practiced almost everyday, I stay up late working on a single drawing, whenever I'm out with friends I think to myself "I should be drawing right now" [spoiler] my feet hurt [/spoiler] . I'm 20, and I'm terrible, but I'll keep working till I get good enough
>>2321335 I'm a very introverted person, and my shyness only makes befriending others worse because it makes others think of me as a narcissistic prick who doesn't want to socialize, when in reality, I just can't seem to "connect" with others because of how differently I think from them. I find drawing to be something I can use as a representation of myself on my behalf, to have some kind of ambassador that can hopefully help me connect and socialize with others. I wanted to have something I can be good at, something I can love doing, something that can further individualize me as a person, something others can appreciate, something that can help me find my home.
>>2340856 >>2340845 Both of these. I've drawn since I was a little kid. I still played outside and shit, but I would spend hours just scribbling on a page or trying to draw Veggie Tale characters. All through School I sat in the back of ever class and drew. Because it's fun. I want to get better so I can put what I see in my mind's eye on paper. I want to create worlds and characters, maybe even dip into storytelling a little bit. Plus, I don't want to draw the same way I do no when I'm like, 50 or 60 and retired. Having people tell me my sketches look like anime shit when I'm not even trying to copy the "mangaka" style of things is infuriating.
I never made up my mind on a specialization, so now I'm hardly even mediocre at either art or writing. Unfortunately, that doesn't stop me from daydreaming. I seem to be unable to stop fantasizing about my concepts, beyond the point of escapism and well into the realm of the pathological. I could definitely make a cutesy, surrealistic web comic, but I'm too busy forcing myself to become a full-fledged code monkey for the sake of money so I can move away from my parents.
To show the rest of /ic/ that I started with brushpen and with hardcore grinding and to brag in a year or two how I'm the best and you all suck. Also I will get some ebin tripcode and will post every day 3 sketches that I did in 20 minutes and people will ask me for a blog and I'll say that I'm out and I'll finish /ic/ with perfect score so mods will have no option but to close whole thing.
To become better than everyone, even myself. I want to look at my work and not see any flaw. I want to elevate the craft of painting with my work. I want my work to become my life. I will die painting.
>>2327599 Am not the same guy but since he gave you some great advice I'll try to follow up on that. Consider buying a wacom tablet and installing photoshop or gimp etc. Most professionals use these tools nowadays. And before you start to get acustomed to it make sure you know how to draw without fucking up your wrist on this medium. It's a bit different from drawing with a pencil and you don't want to be hindered early on by a destroyed wrist. Been drawing for 20+ years now and painted in photoshop for 9 years. Don’t regret my exploration in digital mediums one bit.
1) My friend Brittney who I looked up to like an older sister. she always told me to believe in myself. she never took "I can't do it" as an answer. one day I mention "i can't draw" and she told me that I can, and to try drawing something upside down. I did and it came out horrible but better than usual. ever since then I've wanted to go the full distance and really learn.
2)I'm very imaginative and so many ideas and stuff pop into my head all the time. I really want to bring those ideas to life. I want to one day be able to see all the landscapes, people and other random things I think of in my head on paper.
I dunno. I just like improving, I guess. And it's really the only thing I know how to do. It's the only thing I can do for hours without wanting to stop and actually get so wrapped up in that I forget to eat.
>>2321681 This was me,except i made ridiculous comics that included my friends as characters so making friends was easy. Then gradually as I pursued an art education my talent was just a trait that everyone had and art quickly lost its gimmick as a self validation tool and it actually made me fairly depressed since i had nothing to fall back on in terms of being an interesting person
>why do you draw? So I can fuck bitches, drink and eat. Get my statement out there and create what's in my mind. >goal? Create cool stuff and just inspire other peoples creativity if not challange it. I dont really want to become a prententious cunt either.
I've had the opposite problem of what most people face.
Family, friends, teachers, supervisors, everybody has told me to draw. Everyone wholeheartedly supported my pursuit, so I kept doing it - but I never figured out why I wanted to draw. Maybe it was natural, maybe it was just stupidity. Maybe it's Maybelline? I've always kind of been under the pressure of everyone's expectations - till one day, I just broke down.
I quit for a long time, and I have come to find that drawing is very existential for me. I feel like if I can figure out why I draw maybe I could figure out why I live.
>What is your goal?
If I knew I would tell you. I suppose my goal would be to get to a point where I can produce something that has the same clarity of my imagination.
It's going to be awhile, it feels like I'm starting with a clean slate.
>>2321335 It's the only thing that makes me feel truly alive. I'm not depressed but this is what helped me through shit and I just can't deal without it now.
>Goal As pretentious as it sounds, I want to get to a level where I can actually get people to feel something, anything really. I'm more on the illustration side than fine art side. As far as technical skills go I just want to see how far I can go. I don't really think I'll ever feel satisfied though, but I'm not mad about it.
>>2359456 Why would you want to be like him? He does nothing but draw. He has no social life at all. It's even gotten to a point where he seems to have burned out, and his output is barely a quarter of what it was a decade ago.
>>2321335 Illustrating the pen&paper adventures my wife writes and drawing my own characters for the character sheets. I'm still a complete beginner, drawing for two weeks so my works still look like those of a 5 year old
I want my work to be exhibited worldwide and sold in auctions. I want high class commissions and to be hung in musuems one day. I believe myself to be 100% capable of this, just need to learn how to market myself and network well, have a lot of luck and catch a break, and of course much more time to git gud. that is the goal but I will be happy if i can simply paint as well as my idols. long way off but I get closer every single day
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