What's your opinion on Corel Painter?
>>3098666
Steep learning curve, not worth the cost. The core features are the same as in any app, like Photoshop or free painting apps. Most of what sets it apart from other apps is mostly gimmicky special effects.
>>3098666
it's probably the best painting program. it has stability issues on pc though. i would use it if my computer would let me.
>>3098669
>like Photoshop
What?
It's totally different to PS.
4chan: People drawing floating figures and boxes all the time with hardly any creative application to finished pieces
DA: People making finished pieces all the time but hardly doing any sketching.
>>3098456
Sketch people. The finished work people may improve kinda slow but they are constantly pushing themselves to their limit since they finish their work and it'll be more beneficial in the long run. The sketch people may have better short term improvement but they'll start to stagnate since they're not pushing their skills.
>>3098459
What's up with this 4chan meme of that you won't learn much by sketching? Being able to sketch to the level of the image attached would take a really long time to do. Acting like you'll stagnate your sketching skills after a couple months of practice is completely and utterly false. There is so much you can practice by sketching( perspective, composition, anatomy, drapery, posing, expressions, etc)
>>3098467
(Continued) I mean would you rather have the sketching ability of the first artist or be able to turd polish like this, which is what the majority of DA is capable of after many years of practice.
I enjoy making random minimalist art and I was just making a skeletor and I have a question. How do I create lines that curve in photoshop that I can modify? Thanks for any help
Pen tool
i didn't see a general "share art inspiration" thread, so here are some sketches i found on twitter. artist is @kokimantarou. what do you think? i think these are incredibly impressive.
torso forms
more torsos
...and more torsos, these ones feel much looser, with more exaggerated proportions.
In this thread you draw anything in about 4 minutes. Just draw something.
My attempt.
>>3096558
Done on a mouse on paint btw.
>>3096561
>done with a mouse in paint
>has lineweight
??
>>3096601
MS paint has come along way. Remember it has loads of different brushes now.
Why is the main demographic for art consisted of cookie cutter porn addicts? Like, in the past 500 years, art can't be separated from nudity and sexuality. It can probably traced back to the popularity of figure drawing and usage of male gigolos in ancient Rome and Florence, just maybe. Why can't art be modest like it used to be before the faggy italians ruined it?
> Why is the main demographic for art consisted of cookie cutter porn addicts?
Probably because it's low entry easy money, and isn't really something that will get you shunned or ostracized today in due to just how peoples attitudes are today being "if it isn't hurting anyone who cares". So couple that attitude with the internet where normally someone would come to conclusion that drawing Sonic the Hedgehog porn is a weird thing to do since you are the only one doing that. But now hey look there are 1000 people who are into the same exact thing as me, so fuck mom and dad I am going to go draw Tails shitting in diapers.
Basically it's a perfect storm of monetary incentive coupled with the accessibility of information and networking provided by the internet and this turning a blind eye to acts of degeneracy
> Like, in the past 500 years, art can't be separated from nudity and sexuality.
Ok, whats your point? Themes of sexuality and the naked body have been with art since the beginning. It isn't some trend started just a few hundred years ago, it goes back thousands of years
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> It can probably traced back to the popularity of figure drawing and usage of male gigolos in ancient Rome and Florence
I would say probably even further than that, going back to ancient Greece is a good example. Something interesting I remember reading (can't recall from where) was that art in ancient Greece and probably other ancient cultures had a different attitude in that it was a form of worship to their gods. If that is true then it really seemed only logical that art survived in the Christian culture for as long as it did. So if you account for how long these eras where art was regarded as a religious and spiritual act it really is only a very short time of art history where that attitude has changed.
> Why can't art be modest like it used to be before the faggy italians ruined it?
I don't think the problem was with the renaissance, it with what came after. I think along the way the act of making art lost its purpose to speak in ways we aren't able to with imagery of beauty trying to understand ourselves and the divine. The renaissance still had a lot of that attitude so I wouldn't cast the blame on it.
Well, at least that's what I think.
>>3096153
>Basically it's a perfect storm of monetary incentive coupled with the accessibility of information and networking provided by the internet and this turning a blind eye to acts of degeneracy
I think I agree with you.
>Themes of sexuality and the naked body have been with art since the beginning.
Yeah, but back then we didn't know the purpose of art. Everything that isn't physical labour were lumped together. By the medieval we were supposed to understand that art has a spiritual nature beyond leisure and entertainment, maybe even beyond the catharsis theory as coined by Aristotle.
>>3096160
I think art has always been religious. The thing about the ancient gods is they're basically an embodiment of human's animalistic nature. Sex, wealth, fertility, romantic relationship, they're there. Christianity is more about spiritual perfection, and that's why their art is more like a prayer rather than glorification of sex. It's only in the modern era art lost it's spiritual roots.
Is there anything wrong with drawing in these notebooks with lined paper? What exactly is wrong with sketching on lined paper
>>3093299
it looks amateurish, that's it really. there's nothing inherently wrong with it. if the lines aren't non-photo-blue though then they might be a bit harder to remove if you want to scan something and put it on the internet, but that barely matters
>>3093299
Well for one thing you have lines going through all your art
>>3093299
It's usually ugly as fuck and distracts the viewer from the drawing and the artist from the thing they draw (leading to worse art).
Nothing fundamentally wrong with it, tho. Just that it's very closely related to lazy /beg/-tier artists who sketch in their HS composition books.
Going for 1 million
I want to know some opinion on this piece it can be criticism, or shitpost
Can you learn to draw without any tutorials at all? I spend most of the time doing still life studies and I was wondering if I really, really need books and video tutorials to get good.
Let me put it this way: I know that tutorials are helpful for getting better with very specific stuff, I am talking about general skills that can allow you to work in that industry with any success.
Yes.
Why there are so many retarded threads lately holy fuck
>>3098276
To be honest I expected more than "yes", because yes, it's possible in one's lifetime. I am interested more in efficiency. Is drawing by yourself worth it? It may sound simple, because you are all talk the same shit, "just draw", but really it is not that simple.
>>3098269
Life draw, but use construction and sight-size.
Anyone who uses SAI have any tips? newbie, here. Just started last week.
does the pro give you so much better work flow that it is worth it or can i just get away with the cheaper one, if i wanna create stuff like the related pic?
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checkmate duchampfags
>aesthetic relativism
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