so applefingers just posted this . is there still hope? can we actually make it?
Easy to say when you're already making bank. He should be taking aim at the studios that want that 'cinematic cookie cutter style' instead of artists that do it.
>>2926145
I look at those artists and I think my stuff doesn't look as striking but I don't feel like I'm competing with them in the first place.
>>2926129
didn't read the whole thing. just
>i don't like color pickers or photobashers.
totally agree. i don't consider anyone who does it to be as good as they've surely convinced themselves they are.
how do you "do" this exercise?
are you supposed to find a photo reference and reconstruct it at a different pov? in which case, would you go centerline first, top-view second, and do a bunch of 2-curve combos?
or is this exercise just drawing the subject as-is in a photo while using perspective guidelines to help you place things correctly?
i'm trying to get some more practice with scott robertson's methods. shifting winglets around in 3d space on aircraft was already pretty tedious... trying to nail all these insect leg placements according to some top-view on the ground plane seems like a major headache.
>>2925855
why don't you read through the fucking book again
Break everything down to cubes. in a 1 or 2 point perspective. depending on the angle. then try to confine shapes, like spheres and other shapes in that cube. THink of it as a 3d object but your only drawing one cube at a time
>>2925855
You gather some reference and fill in the blanks with your fucking brain, it's designed to help you whip out drawings from imagination, you're forcing yourself to turn the reference in your mind and figure out how to fit it to your image, in perspective. It isn't a scientific illustration.
Draw a "piece of paper" in perspective on the page, you can do this *right?* That is the floor which your object will sit. Now draft your shit in perspective off that. gl.
>Drawing going fine for my low self-expectation
>Draw a line
>It could be better
>Erase it
>New line is worse
>Ok I still got this!!
>Erase it
>Keeps getting shittier
>Erase it
>Now you realise its your last try
>You go full retarded and just fuck your shit up because the drawing wasn't 100% perfect in the first place
>Get desmotivated
Ok the liberals diagnosed me as bipolar, chronically depressed and with anger issues, but I can't be the only cunt that suffer from this bullshit
It wouls be easier to say that you're an autist.
>>2921469
Shut the fuck up you leftist progressive liberal jewish cunt, trying to diagnose me just because I'm different
>>2921462
>>2921469
I managed to largely overcome this by considering how perfect my lines/circles/etc. needed to be in order to "be" perfect.
If you take a beautiful celeb's face and measure out symmetries, you'll find that they aren't actually perfect. They're more symmetrical than "average" faces to be sure, but if you look for imperfections you'll be able to find them. One eye is further from the nose, one eye is lower... in any case this shows a lower limit for perfection. "This amount of error is allowed and still be classified as perfect".
The upper limit for me was demonstrated by machinery. You may have heard of those "perfectly manufactured marbles" or whatever, and they say something like "if this was the size of the earth, the bumps would only be so-and-so high". Flipped it means that even machines can't make something "truly" perfect. But as far as anyone is concerned, it might as well be.
Scale it down to animus for example and it becomes obvious that a lot of things can be seen as perfect without being perfect. What you're trying to satisfy is taste, "perfection" is just one taste, an impossible one. In a sense I'm telling you to get shittier taste. But that's the idea. If you don't tone it down first you won't put lines on the page, and you need to put lines on the page to get better at drawing, which is putting lines on a page.
No use in having a taste that can't be satisfied.
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Nigga you better fix that.
>>2916654
nigga HEELLLP
this shit is being paid for and I'm not used to this subject matter.
>>2916668
I have to agree with this other anon >>>2916779
It might be a good idea to lengthen the ship some. I even looked up fast sail ships and the name "The Cutty Sark" showed up as one of the fastest sail ships. It was also a pirate ship.
The only other thing I'm thinking of on this desitng of the ship is how does the ship reverse or slow down?
I mean its a flying wood ship which goes against anything in terms of reality, but it feels like the ship needs some smaller engines that can be used to slow it down or reverse direction. Or something at least.
In terms of guns you don't have much to work with in terms of the size of the ship and the amount of detail you can convey in terms of weapons on the ship.
Do you have instagrams for sharing your shit that noone cares about?
i do
https://www.instagram.com/a._.ver/
no
i dont get why there isnt a proper instagram for my laptop.
>>2914304
what do you mean there isnt?
>>2914300
yeah, its my main instagram because no one cares what im doing :(
> memes follow art history
> last kind of memes: meta-memes (metaphysical art)
> next memes: De Stijl memes
You don't get the reference yet because it's from post-neoplasticism
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>>2924932
No money, sadly.
Thought?
https://youtu.be/vM39qhXle4g
Generally liked the tipps this guy gave. Any oppinions?
I think especially the 'concentrate learning' part is really important and often overlooked.
>>2922361
8. The spark
9. Exercise
10. Healthy Diet
11. Stimulant drugs
12. No social life
13. Autism
>>2922370
14. Ligameme
>>2922370
I can't count that far.
Decided I'm going to fucking make it and tried making some sort of routine just so i can keep my arm fresh. Tell me what i could add/remove, rate, post yours.
Based heaviliy of drawabox because i have no sense of direction and just wanna work on fundies
3 super imposed lines (8) from left to right
3 super imposed lines (8) from right to left
3 super imposed lines (8) upward
3 super imposed lines (8) downward
3 super imposed lines (8) arcs
10 super imposed circles (5) clockwise
10 super imposed circles (5) counter clockwise
20 connect the dot lines
10 planes
30 boxes
30 cylinders
30 minutes of gestures
You could remove all of that and just draw from life.
I just draw from imagination for my warm ups.
I suggest grabbing a bottle of booze and getting drunk with the idea of drawing in mind. You'll get burned out real quick if you force a schedule on yourself.
>>2928617
but learning to fight through the burnout and pacing myself to avoid the burn out is apart of getting good isnt it, i'm sick and tired of having bad line and getting angry with every mark i make and i dont have enough time or money for life drawing sessions, something is better then nothing right?
We draw mechs/dinosaurs/aliens/whatever the fuck you used to draw when you were a little kid ITT
Doesn't matter if you're good or not, (kek, I'm fucking not) drawing cool, fun designs is all that matters
Have fun and let the kid in you play around a little.
>fun, he says
>>2928516
It doesn't matter if it's shit and lacks fundies, anon.
Just draw
I'm having a hard time animating a decent an animated fire loop. Any suggestions to studying fire behavior?
Damn I didn't proof read that at all..
>>2928441
Got an example of your attempt?
http://bitey.com/fx/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKmo_ab0kY4
just got into stretching canvas for oil painting. Base coat of
rabbit skin glue and then linseed with titanium white for prime.
3 that i have done have turned out very nice, but this one has
developed creases. I do not recall what stage this happened
though it looked tight before i rsg'd. what causes this?
poor fabric weave? rsg? not tight enough stretch?
Really weird. If the canvas fabric is from the same bolt as the other ones you've stretched, then it probably isn't the fabrics fault.
Try wetting the back of the canvas with water and a paintbrush. This tightens up stretched canvas, and I've seen it done and it works. I don't know the specific science behind it but it works.
If that doesn't work, then you may have just made a mistake in stretching too loose. Happens. Reprime.
My advice is use a panel instead if you're not working large. For the most part at that size it's more convenient, too, because they are thinner than the stretcher bars. A smooth panel without the texture of canvas will also allow you to paint more crisply.
>>2928512
If you're going to use panels, might as well buy canvas roll and cut them up. Much cheaper and easier to store.
>>2926455
Is there a reason why you want to paint on a stretched canvas? Unless you like bouncy surfaces and is willing to pay for it with money and space, otherwise just paint on the canvas cloth without stretching it.
>>2927174
Cliche.
Mohrbacher is /ourguy/ so I wish him well. I can appreciate the aesthetic of these pieces.
>>2927193
>aesthetic
Please get better taste.
I've been told that the excercises in this book help with unlearning symbol drawing. Is it advised to skip all the reading and jump to the excercises? Or should I read the whole thing through?
Why not focus on learning things that actually matter instead of wasting your time on some retarded "unlearn symboli drawing" exersizes?
PS: I haven't read the book, a few of my art friends have and I speak from their behalf
Summary: Right Side of brain good at seeing and Left Side good at words. Left side doesn't want to look at thing for long, so it tried to make symbols to save time. So if you want to unlearning symbol drawing start by picasso igor stravinsky upside down. it force the Left side of the brain to stop interfering with thr R mode(right side of the brain).
draw from life alot
Please complete a study of this Austrian milkmaid.
>>2917102
I don't want to draw anything that includes the word "milkmaid" but doesn't include breasts.