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Last watch thread archived.

This time, let's celebrate the art of any timepiece.
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>>2463159

Clock above is a Jaeger-LeCoultre Atmos and is proof of perpetual power.
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>>2464827
I looked at this a while ago.
Very nice but not worth the retail price at all.
Less than surprisingly drops to almost half in condition 1.
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Next time, datograph ass
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My collection.
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>>2466367
Great collection, you seem to have picked the best out of what each brand does in a truly respectable collectors collection that normal people might find nice too.
Impressively diverse too - not a red 1680 and a closed 6 1680 and a nodate 1680..
Could you do me a favour and measure the lug to lug height of the numbered speedy?
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>>2466562

What a great compliment! It's definitely not then end as I've already sold a Rolex Daytona and a few others over time but I'm quite content with what I have at the moment (famous last words).

The lugs on the Speedy are 19mm apart but you can squeeze a 20mm on there and an 18mm won't look too wrong.

Strap on there is 20mm but Omega leather strap is 19mm.

This is my old Daytona with the Reverso.
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>>2466954
WOW! That white dial Daytona looks amazing? Why did you sell it?
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>>2466954
You seem to have misunderstood me, I meant the height between the tips of the lugs.
I've marked it here on this condition 1 Alaska Project from 1970.
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>>2466980

I was given an offer higher than the retail price. I had my fun with it but already the polished lugs and clasp were showing up scratches like crazy.

I do miss it but I aim to own a vintage one instead which can be more expensive but the chase would be more fun.

The accuracy of the Daytona was truly incredible though. Barely needed to reset the time. Rolex is well worth the price in terms of quality over Omega in every sense.

>>2467029

The lug height is about 48/49mm
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>>2466980
>>2467227

The day I got it.
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Best modern rollie
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$5.71 million.
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>>2468348
For what possible reason is it 5.71mil.
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>>2468348
>>2468554

It's a one-off Patek Philippe 2571 from 1955. It's the first Perpetual Calendar Split-Seconds Chronograph in a wristwatch and was a pre-cursor to the popular (and expensive) 5004 and 5204.

It's size was also larger than most of their range at the time of its creation at 37mm. Over-sized vintage Pateks tend to be worth more as they are much rarer and maintain a more modern look and feel.

Had this been made in steel it could've gone for even more as gold discolours more over time and as with the size, steel Pateks are much rarer and are worth more than gold.

Take solace in the fact that it was Patek Philippe themselves who bought it to keep it in their Geneva museum.

It belongs in a museum!
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>>2469013
Have a better picture.
Is that one yours?
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>>2469015

Yeah I took it at the Watch Art Grand Exhibition in London.

The lighting was heavily downwards and was hard to get the right angle behind the glass.
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>>2467227
>>2467434
Totally agreed on Rolex>>>Omega

The new OP in its multiple sizes and dial colors is a nice entry level Rolex
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L1902
876 parts
67 Jewels
Perpetual calendar, moonphase, monopusher split-seconds chronograph with flying seconds, grande and petite sonnerie with minute repeater.
40mm
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>>2463159
This watch is on my mind.
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>>2471095
Breguet with crown guard on a bracelet.
Why?
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>>2464944 Great pic!
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>>2471360
Thanks, have another albeit less good.
Wears quite nice and looks very nice.
That said the price you'd pay for a generic 7750 movement without anything special or even a display caseback is nearly upsetting. For some reason they're about 60% discounted on the used market though.
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>>2463160
It's proof of perpetual motion, not power. There's lots of examples for perpetual motion, but so far it's not possible or even logical for a movement to produce more power that itself without the influence of an outside force.
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>>2471605
I like ripping images from Philllips as well.
Geneva Two is later this year and will have some nice things as well.
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>>2472012

My own picture just for you.
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>>2471353
Dude, there's a whole Breguet Marine line.

It's in honor of when the original A.L.Breguet designed timepieces for the Royal French Navy.
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>>2471353
part deux

The Breguet Marine GMT
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>>2471353

They also come with a rubber strap.

It's a classy, dressy, yet sporty and durable Breguet that I can wear with a suit or in the pool. Particularly with the bracelet, but even with the strap, it's a great all-rounder.
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>>2471095
Putin wears his on a rubber strap with a suit.
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Okay guys, help me decide a purchase I've been saving for!

>>2473882
This FP Journe, but in platinum with blue hands and markers, maybe losing the moonphase (what do you think?)

>>2472264
This Breguet, but with the bracelet on the gmt above it

Or the rolex I'm posting here, the new day date 40mm.

Ignore the price differences and just imagine it being used as a daily wearer. Thanks!
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>>2474061

A FP Journe Octa Automatic with power reserve in platinum if you can afford it of course.

You've been saving for a long time if that thing is an option!

I prefer it with the moonphase but it's your decision. Share some pics if you get it.

I tried the Day-Date 40 in platinum. It's a heavy thing but still nice. Would you go for Roman or baton indices?

Breguet does great watches but to me, none of them are defined enough. All much of a muchness. I'd spend ages trying to decide on one then probably end up regretting it.
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>>2474486

thanks for the input!
-Yeah, several years saving here. As ladies have been like "you haven't bought me a house and given me children and diamonds" I've been like "okay bye" and saving $$$...

It's hard to find hr pics but I'll link to a few pics I posted here: http://forums.timezone.com/index.php?t=tree&goto=7091500&rid=135521#msg_7091500

Journe is really a special sort of watch brand. Kinda like if A.L. Breguet were alive or if RW Smith made 10x as many watches and was something I could afford...

For the Rolex DD40, I tried the batons and was a little underwhelmed. Although it might have been the slightly douchey guy at the Rolex NYC Boutique. Don't hard-sell me, bro. Seriously heavy, though, right? I want to see the Roman numerals

For Breguet, "All much of a muchness" hahaha! That's true. I wasn't blown away when I tried it.

I figure it should wow me a bit, right?

Thanks, again!
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>>2474515
Good taste, btw, a nice watch.
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>>2474870
Oops, that was meant to go with the Blancpain FF!
Haha, oh well, It's an excuse to post another pic of an FP Journe, this time from the back.
I think all Journe's movements are in 18k gold.
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>>2474061 same person

I'll just keep this thread alive with a few more pics
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The whole mother of pearl line up
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>>2463264
you know, I like a lot of other things from glashuette but I can't get into A lange's aesthetic
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>>2466367
you did a great job, cheers
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this is mo betterer
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>>2477127

Not sure what you were attempting here but you managed to fail twice.
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Another Journe
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Such great pics everyone! One day, I will have a speedmaster on my wrist, and I will be passed down so beauty will continue in this world.
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>>2478015

I put my Speedmaster on a crocodile strap.

It's the 50th anniversary model of the first omega in space. I'm waiting to see what they do in 2019 for the 50th anniversary of the moon landing.
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>>2478212
>gloss black
looks gaudy as fuck.

here, the watch i used to have, before some bastard stole it from my hospital belongings, along with a 24k chain.
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Cle du Cartier

I sort of like it?
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>>2478375

>>looks gaudy as fuck.

>>some bastard stole my 24k chain.

...
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>>2478669
Ha ha

More watches, please
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Share some of your collections.

Here's part of mine.
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One of mine
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grail
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I used to own this. Sold it.
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>>2486969
trust fund babby gtfo. lol jks. nice faulex though.
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>>2492642
That's my picture and watch.

I don't have a trust fund, I'm older than the usual 4chaner and I earned it. That's a real Rolex, it's a datejust2 with a smooth bezel.

So, basically, way to fail, little bro.
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>>2493388

It's a great watch. Good choice.
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>>2493461
Thanks, nice pic of yours.

Here's my other one on my wrist.
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...The Da Vinci...

IWC produced the first “digital” watches in its history as early as 1884. These timepieces, known as Pallweber watches, displayed the hours and minutes using numerals, while the seconds were shown in analogue form with a hand. In 2009. , the leap year disc is also advanced at the same time.
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...sweet!
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>>2500830

Bloody hell, I was just looking at this watch today.

What do you think between the JLC and this Breitling? About £1000 difference.
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>>2500903
In this case, you spend a bit more to get a lot more.

Well, the JLC has a new, in-house movement, which is a big deal coming from JLC. Yeah, there were dumb rumors that it wasn't in-house, but those came from people who didn't open it up and look.

A JLC in SS is as close as this level of watches come to being a good value.

The Breitling isn't bad, but you get a big step up with the JLC.
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>>2500903
>>2501659

OK then. Disregard the price, but in this line up of in-house automatic chronographs, which would you choose.
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>>2502285
Disregard the price?

Okay, The Breitling and Omega, for all that both are nice watches, are in a lower tier than the others.

Any of the rest are great choices. The JLC is pure class, already discussed. The Zenith is a classic, and daytonas used to use a Zenith movement. It's a little dated, though.

The Daytona has an in-house movement, which, in true Rolex style, has undergone a number of silent upgrades since its introduction. It's very sturdy, goes with a work suit or at the beach, and is comfortable on the wrist.

If you don't have a Daytona and don't need a date function, that's a great choice. On the bracelet, it's water resistant as deep as you'll go (I wouldn't get leather wet and other straps won't be as versatile as the bracelet).

Otherwise, the JLC is the choice. You run into the occasional daytona, but a JLC is something that only those in the know, know. The JLC doesn't call attention to itself the way the Rolex does, but everytime you look at the JLC, you'll smile.
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>>2503561
Who is a hublot for?

They really tend to be biting the style of AP, but with a tacky vibe.
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>>2466367
>>2466954
>>2467227
>>2467267
>>2478212
>>2485650
>>2493461

Part of my collection.
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>>2504190
You really have a nice collection. Which is your favorite?
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>>2503902
I NEED a royal oak. It's so unfair I can't just buy these things.
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>>2504375
>>2504433

Thanks! Probably the Omega Speedmaster. I love the quality of all them, especially the Rolex, but the Speedy is my go to watch for any situation.

Like this guy though I am also pining after a Royal Oak. Collecting never really ends.
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>>2504433
not a nautilus?
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>>2471378
paid 4,200 for mine
SS white face
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>>2505087
With the blued hands / indices?
Do show.
IWC makes some neat stuff in the higher price brackets.
Their repeaters are exceptionally comparatively cheap.
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Vintage IWC is real nice as well.
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Speaking of Richemont owned ex-axis military issue 'manufactures' who usually do loud oversized watches using ETA movements but have a few surprisingly sophisticated and nice ones; here's this.
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>>2505165
Then you hear them and you know why. Super quiet and non-diatonic.
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>>2505195
Huh. I didn't know.
Am I the only enthusiast who prefers the generation 2 Lange 1815 chrono more than 1 & 3 (latter feature a pulsometer scale)?
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>>2505308
For reference
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RM does legitimate high horology very well.
Sadly it caters to hyper rich trust fund brats and NBA players rather than those who appreciate high horology style wise.
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Geneva Two auction catalogue is out.
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>>2477274
That's pretty damn tiny
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>>2505195

Yup afraid so. Audemars Piguet is the best I've heard. Patek is pretty close though they'd like to think they're the best.

>>2505308
>>2505309

It depends on if you need to time someone's heartbeat on a whim.

I find the dial very flat and clinical in 1815 compared to the Datograph in general. Pink gold is probably a better option to spice it up.

>>2505332
The quality is insane when you feel it and and wear it but still nowhere near the price tag. But it works well for R Mille so can't complain.
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>>2505165
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Hi Nick
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Rolex collector memes
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Classique Queuebert
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Any love for Fossil?
sub $300 watch.

Wish I had a a macro lens
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>>2506086
hi seb
>tfw bagel pics not big enough to post here
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>>2506736
Meh, I have a Rolex (the datejust pictured above) and a JLC, but if I have to go somewhere sketchy or I'll be out late in sketchy areas, I wear this Michael Kors automatic.
Okay, to be honest, I don't wear it too often anymore, but there's no shame in wearing a cheaper automatic that you've put some thought into buying.
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>didn't bring camera down to Florida with me
whelp, my phone takes xbox hueg pictures at least :^)
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>>2507577
You should mention what city.
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>>2506086
>>2507577
>>2508492

No homages allowed
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>>2508518
I'm a broke ass college student, I think that's the only context needed in regards to why I don't own an actual Paul Newman. Make mention of that in the OP post next time if it perturbs you.
>>2508492
d a y t o n a
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>>2508518
Nice, I really like the new DD40
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>>2466569
Jesus Christ, the level of precision you can get with that regulator is just insane.
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I found some rare 3970s and compiled them.

>>2508518
Why?
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John Mayer, fuck off you weren't first.
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What is good and bad about this watch?
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>>2511753
The Good:
Very well made, 10-year average service interval, amazingly versatile--can go with jeans or a suit, really the only watch you'll ever need, you can wear it at the beach (and in the water) or at a 4-star restaurant.

The Bad: Such a total classic design that it's been copied many times over (but never equaled) and there are a lot of crappy copies. You'll see other people with a Submariner at a museum or elsewhere, so that may bother some idiots.
Basically, there's no real downside, as long as you can afford it.

There are a lot of choices as well, from the less common green-dialed Submariner (the "Hulk") to white and yellow gold versions to related models like the GMT Master II and the DeepSea. Depending on your budget, there is a lot to choose from.
For quality trusted older models, you can browse Bob's Watches, they service and check all watches they sell and are a known trustworthy source for a Rolex.
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>>2511753
>>2511867

All good points but what specifically about this watch in the spectrum of all the previous Submariners. I get the feeling that the bulky squared-off nature is starting to lose its heritage and that it less and less resembles the original.
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>>2513464
I'm not the actual collector guy with the other post (who I mostly agree with) and have never worn (any) sub, but from my internet WIS knowledge and spending more hours on /wt/ and WUS than I'd ever admit I can say the following.
It does have the objective improvement of the 3135 movement (and its upgrades) and questionably objective improvement of ceramic bezel. If you compare to what I find to be the golden era - 6200 to 5513, there's also sapphire and many other material improvements. Possibly better lume as well.

To me though the maxicase is little short of mutilation of their icon.
Unless you have extraordinarily large wrists or scream for "wrist presence", there's little point in having it larger than it was. They did do what the market seems to want, and reasonably well.
As I said I haven't worn it myself, but from what I've seen it does for my traditional taste as well as my rather small wrists wear too large.
I see it like the 116010LN marked the clear transition between when Rolex went from having anything to do with tool watches to purely being status symbols with mid end haute horologie.
Kind of reverse of me since the movement and material upgrades do make it tougher, harder wearing.

The 116010LN is shiner, larger and definitely has more "I have arrived" than the previous models - which is what it is about.

Pic related is one of the two maxicase subs I'd at all consider wearing.
It's an aftermarket modification - one of the few that doesn't ruin the watch aesthetically.
Combined with the absurd price of £15000 as well as being a limited edition to 50 makes it nearly impossible to acquire.
The other one is a better made version with the same concept from another modifier.

Here's an article on the 3135: http://www.chronometrie.com/rolex3135/rolex3135.html

I could do another rant on my view of the evolution of the GMT master (which they introduced the maxicase with) if there's any interest.
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Clean chronos.
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>>2514346

Sharp.
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>>2514346
>>2514351
While I like the Zenith, the Piaget looks impressively boring without being extremely impressive in any way.
Going on horological acheivements, I think this one should've won the chronograph category.
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Winner of
"AIGUILLE D'OR"
GRAND PRIX

Greubel Forsey
Tourbillon 24 Secondes Vision
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Winner in the category
MEN'S
WATCH PRIZE


Kari Voutilainen
Voutilainen GMR
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Winner in the category
MECHANICAL EXCEPTION
WATCH PRIZE

Jaquet Droz
The Charming Bird
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Winner in the category
STRIKING
WATCH PRIZE


Girard-Perregaux
Minute Repeater Tourbillon with Gold Bridges
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Winner in the categories
INNOVATION
WATCH PRIZE

and

PUBLIC
PRIZE

Antoine Preziuso
Tourbillon of Tourbillons
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Winner in the category
CALENDAR
WATCH PRIZE


Hermès
Slim d'Hermès QP
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Winner in the category
HOROLOGICAL REVELATION
PRIZE

Laurent Ferrier
Galet Square
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Winner in the category
SPORTS
WATCH PRIZE


Tudor
Pelagos (2015 inhouse movement version)
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>>2514379
Case: White gold
Bracelet strap: Leather
Buckle: Pin buckle
Waterproofness: 30 m
Size: o 43.5 mm
Thickness: 13.65 mm

Movement: Manual-winding mechanical
Power reserve: 72 h, 21600 variations / hours
Functions: Hours, Minutes, Power reserve, Seconds
Reference: 9100 5850
Year: 2015
Collection: Tourbillon 24 Secondes / Limited Edition to 22 exemplaires
Price: 290’000 CHF
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>>2514388
https://youtu.be/s5GfeOzw_hY 240p video of a 480k CHF watch.
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>>2514391
This is actually a very nice alternative to a Submariner and the new in-house movement is superb.
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>>2515465

Speaking of which...
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hallie selassie's patek
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Out of the way rich people, poorfag coming through
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My latest purchase. :)
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My new and only watch.
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>>2517982
What do you think of this >>2513565 and what drove you to opt for two-tone?
Did you have anything before?
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£446,327.12
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I was given the watch as a gift. But I picked two tone because I think it looks cool. I really like the green on green, but they don't make that in two tone so I went with black instead.
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>>2518465
Go with what you love. I've seen the TT sub in person and it looks nice.

Here's a pic of the Hulk (green submariner)
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Gold.
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Steel.
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>>2521387
hmm, the hands are a little funny on that one

I'm not a big omega fan, but the moonwatch is nice
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>>2521387
>>2521650

These are the alpha hands that came on the Omega Speedmaster ref CK2998.

This reference is often seen as the model that created the look of the Speedmaster that we all know and love despite the ref CK2915 coming before it.
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>>2521650
>>2523986

Clearer view of hands. Though there were a huge assortment of hands and variations used on reference CK2998. From alpha and baton time hands, alpha and baton sub-dial hands and lollipop, arrow and stick chronograph seconds hands.
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>>2523988
Thanks.

Here's the best speedy.
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>>2467436
love the explorer 1. underappreciated watch
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>>2524389
That's an Oyster Perpetual (116000), and I like it too.
More so than the Explorer I since it doesn't have the awful mercedes hands.
Since I'm broke and like having a date I spent 1/300th and got a funny name instead.
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>>2502285
Jaeger-Le-Coultre without even thinking about it!
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>>2463160

I sometimes go to the jlc manufacture, in every meeting room there is an Atmos, truly amazing.
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>>2524690
Hell yeah, JLC is total class
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>>2524699
Any stories from the JLC manufacture?
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>>2525063
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>>2528206
>>2480138
Back and front
http://revo-online.com/in-plain-sight-revealing-the-secret-of-f-p-journes-resonance-chronometer/
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One of the only u.s.a. made watches wwith an in-house movement
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>>2529194
and the back

RGM calibre 801
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>>2530857
Not a superfan of current omegas, but vintage ones can be very nice.
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Ia!
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Strange looking at first but I think it's beautiful. Maybe it's the price kinda making me think it's beautiful. What do y'all think of this Patek?
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>>2534504
I don't know about on the wrist, but it is beautiful in its own strange way, sure.
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>>2534504
Looks very rough being a Patek - I can see machining on the bezel and some indexes not being fully straight. Though their finishing before the 1940s really isn't comparable to modern, specially not post-1994/2009.
Case design looks a bit like Voutilainen tried to make a Mare Nostrum, the literal leaf hand is almost comical. Only thing I like is the numerals which I don't think fit very well aesthetically. Bezel / dial being that cluttered yet lacking a minute track is strange too.

Pic related is the oldest Patek I'd consider actually using, though that doesn't mean that the strange one you posted isn't horologically interesting. World timers were never my thing either. How much did it go for? Think the 3939a is the most expensive Patek I'd enjoy having. Most others are just historical nerdery or gaudy as hell.
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Take her to the moon for me.
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>>2467267

do they use actual oysters
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This is just such a beautiful watch.
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I'll dump some old Grand Prix d’Horlogerie de Genève pictures (2013).
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>>2534504
>>2536188

Rare + Patek doesn't always mean beautiful/interesting.
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What do people think of this Oris Divers 65?
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>>2537859
The 'index' at 6 is strange, having just keep it as tall as to where the date window ends would've made it so much better.
You lowered the cost (and horological level, albeit interesting design) of the thread, so I'll raise it. Even if I very much prefer the Oris as something to wear or use at all.
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Beautiful watches in this thread.

Makes me really miss my Seamaster. It was my college graduation present, and it was stolen in a burglary several years ago.
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>>2539627
time to buy a new seamaster, then.

insure it with jewler's mutual for 100-200$ a year or whatever and you'll never be without it for long again.

I just fixed your life!
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>>2539627
>>2540990

Or upgrade to the Speedmaster Pitch Black.
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I'm guessing you guys are in a part of the world that hasn't gotten cellphones yet. Needlessly expensive and obsolete, wow
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>>2474872
The earliest were in brass and I think there was a brief transitional period where they tried other things. I posted two here >>2464951 >>2464952

The sports line has some movements made in aluminium which is pretty interesting. Just hope it won't wear out too quickly being that soft.
7075 Aluminium + grade 5 titanium could be a really interesting combination to make movement out of. Sadly only Richard Mille cares to go that far with the exotic materials / manufacturing process when movements are concerned. (some AP concepts possibly do, but they cost even more than the RMs)

Nice watch!
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>>2541478
Thanks

Okay, hr-watch folks! I have a dilemma:

With Moonphase or without moonphase?

1) With Moonphase.
I see the underlying white disc of the dial (the guilloche-patterned part) as looking a bit bulged out at around 2 o'clock. It's an optical illusion visible in person. Can't unsee, but otherwise this is the version I had wanted.

It seemed more balanced in the modern Journe way until I started noticing the way the guilloche didn't look round.

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>>2542382
Here we are without the moonphase.

I wonder if it's less balanced looking?

Yet, you can see that the white guilloche on the dial is more clearly circular, so that's maybe more pleasing.

Which would you pick and why?

2 or 3
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>>2542384
Or, screw it all and get a rolex day date 40...

It has a bracelet and a nice movement, but the Journe has an equally well-made and much nicer movement made of 18k gold and... hell, I should get the Journe, but which one is the question. Moonphase or no moonphase?

Thanks!

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>>2542382
>>2542384
>>2542467

Firstly I am impressed you are able to afford any of these watches.

Secondly, I would choose between the moonphase Journe and platinum DD40 but only with the batons and diamond cut dial not the Roman numerals.

Though for my money I would choose the rose gold Journe moonphase as it's more classical looking.

Are there any more alternatives? For that money the choice is immense.
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>>2544366
Hey, thanks for the input! Much appreciated (and other folks are welcome to chime in as well).

I actually had that very rose gold Journe in my hand the other day, along with the blue mother of pearl at the journe boutique in NYC.

The rose gold looks so good in real life! The blue MOP is oddly a little less showy, slightly dressed-down, while being colorful.

I could think about the platinum, that's super cool, but under-the-radar, too.
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>>2545572
Oh, I should say that I've fallen a little in love with the idea of a Journe because it's such a small, independent company built around one genius watchmaker.

That said, I enjoy my datejust II way out of proportion to any reason or logic, so Rolex has it's own hold.
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Breguet Marine GMT
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What would /hr watch fags do? Missing second hand, still keeps time with current spring for about 12 hours. Get rebuilt? Worth it? Any info on it? Was my grandfathers. From 30's I think, railroad watch or something.
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>>2549104

Measure the diameter. That could have a huge affect on it's value.
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>>2549106
Crystal is 30mm, back is 30mm, whole thing is about 34mm.
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>>2549104
It's your grandpa's. Get that shit rebuilt and wear it.
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A single hand 24 hour jaquet droz...Will probably never have one, don't really want one, can't find a high res picture of one but they are nice.
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>>2551571
I find JD more interesting for their automata than horology though they do look nice aesthetically.
If you just want a single-hand 24hr watch, get a Lunch.
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grail
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I wish time was longer.
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>>2558493
I wish time was purple and taffy flavored.
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this threads not page of doom time
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>>2477274
gutted...Duplicate file exists
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>>2561433
...at least somebody liked my original post
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>tfw I'll never have Peters watches nor camera gear
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>>2562277
what gives peter pan?
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not a Longine .....damnation
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>>2472264
If your arms look like that, shave them or take a picture of the watch by itself
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>>2468348
10/10. my holy grail dress watch is a PP gold calatrava w/o complications because I am kinda sick of complications I don't use and then have to reset too often.
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>>2469237
a sensible choice but it's kinda hard to downgrade when you've had higher in their lineup. I sold my roli turnograph datejust gold and steel i got long ago (acrylic and jubiullee) - a very rare model, because I was ready for a change. Now I have only 3 watches, none rolex. My problem is the nickle in the steel in Rolex. So I have to stick with gold. gold plated is not respected but I have a tissot in gold plate that wears fine (costs new 400) and hardly a good watch but a cheapo swiss with a common eta. I thought the AP royal Oak is a good choice but who has that kind of money? I have a S/S AP and never wear it. I can't find a perfect solution.
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>>2503902
I have the RO with grey face. I don't like how it wears on me although it is low and not too heavy. Problem is I never take it out because I am afraid of needing service on it. After Archie's $3500 service bill on his, omg, I mean I am just saving to sell before getting something else. Yeah, the icon of all iconic lines, but I need something I like to wear. Got the RO after years of rolex experience. I love AP but I just can't find what wears best for me. so many issues. And I only have 3 watches now and can't after another without selling the AP.
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>>2504433
you can buy it used for 6 to 10k US$ if you know exactly what you're doing and totally confident in seller and it's legit. but never ebay, and never those with non-AP parts or non-AP service, and if it's stolen or something else wrong you loose your money so it's best to be really careful. Most of the cheap ones have a lot of hidden problems. And the servicing can be as must as a new omega sports watch. so be careful .
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>>2563270
over-rated brand.
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>>2536873
the originals were totally iconic. highly rated. and a good value. glad to see one here. this version I would skip but I deeply respect these.
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>>2562277
also over-rated. IWC uses some pretty standard eta movements in nice cases as a rule now and it's just not so great as the pricing and marketing and history. there are some exceptions but I've gone "blah" on the brand.
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>>2563932
>>2563936
Cartier is introducing their own in-house movements, so hopefully will be less overrated.
IWC needs a brand reboot, but movements like the one pictured are pretty great (new portugieser movt)
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SIHH 2016
Lange killing it as usual: Perpetual calendar grande date moonphase chronograph tourbillon. With power reserve.
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>>2566154
Even if you're not a regular in any watch thread, you can't possibly say that this - 792 parts, around 3cm diameter in total, isn't astonishing.
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>>2566154
Yeah, that's a masterpiece.
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The best thing to come out of SIHH 2016.
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>>2463159
Sometimes I feel like time is always on my heels and I catch myself running downhill and the only way to stay upright is to keep on running.
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>>2567724
Ugh, RM watches are illegible.

This Cartier with an in-house movement is nice and 1/100th the price of the RM.
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You >>2567979 my entitled Millennial Narcissist...
should continue to run into the arms of Death, quickly please.
The more you rush, the less you feel, and the quicker you >>2567979 age and die young.

Look at the mighty warrior called: the TREE - every moment in it's life is OutSide in the Hot Sun and the Dangerous Wind and the Deadly Snow and the polluted Atmosphere with the Toxic waters falling atop its nude body.
the TREE takes it's Time to grow old; and what beauty does it provide >>2567979 for your basic existence?
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>>2568140
If only death didn't stand like a sentenial. If I knew for certainty that my individuality and consciousness would be destroyed upon death I would welcome it. I envy my dogs as they are always content and enjoy the present moment that they exist in. Me and what I assume everyone else does is always considering the past or future and never able to enjoy the infininitly vanishing present moment.
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>>2567984

But what if I want a tossed salad for a dial?
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>>2567724
Why?
It's not the most interesting movement - that's the Parmigiani Fleurier Senfine Concept or arguably Lange datogrpah perpetual tourbillon since it's got more complications for roughly a third of the price. It's not the most aesthetical watch for a long list of reasons, including within RMs offerings and it's most likely not the most expensive one either if you care about that for some reason. Granted I do find the materials used in the movement interesting - not that they'd increase the performance notably.
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The new IWC Big Pilot combines the best elements of the ref 5002 and 5009.

The numerals are same size as 5002 but bolder and feature the 9 that was missing in the 5009. The date widow matches the dial colour as in the 5009 and not the 5002. And lastly the text spacing and sizes are more balanced and appeasing in this new 500912 reference. A perfect evolution.
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Well,>>2569096
Here's a step in the right direction for you
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>>2569596
True, IWC really scored with that. Speaking of pilot watches...
I actually called up a PP dealer in town to ask about a 5711 (yeah, right), but when he was talking about what was new for 2015 I muttered "a freakin' pilot watch" under my breath and the dealer heard me!

He thought it was a little hilarious and offered to let me try one on when/if it comes in on order. Well, maybe. Wouldn't mind a 5712 to be honest, though I'm saving for something else.
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>>2570057

White gold, 45 hour power reserve and $47,600. They did a great looking watch but half-arsed it because they are Patek. Not IWC, not Breitling. Patek.
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>>2570085
It's a pretty nice Zenith that PP made though, right?
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my two omegas
planet ocean 42mm and 300m chrono
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>>2570537
wrong photo
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>>2570538
Solid watches, thanks for sharing.
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>>2465397
10/10
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>>2508865
very nice. a keeper.
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>>2537859
not a fan of the brand but they're OK. prob is will not hold value unless you buy used and the depreciation goes to the first guy, and only new at deep discounts jomashop and others. But then only certain one. compare to zenith and ten others in same class. It's entry-level stuff. For a beater it's ok. depends on price. movements pretty ordinary, nothing special. not junk but not good either.
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>>2570772
pretty nice. if you can get a like new one for right price I would do it. But the brand is not holding it's value if you buy new. but what's there not to love. i would put this right there with PP's, VC's, and Lange but not too many others. Although i have an AP it's so different from the only AP we all know (RO), that I cannot compare meaningfully to that. nevermind AP. just look at that guilloche.
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>>2570537
>>2570538

Great watches, though I'm surprised to see the Planet Ocean has a scratched bezel. Wasn't the ceramic bezel supposed to be scratch resistant?
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>>2537859
>>2570802

I got one for about a 1/4 of the price so not bothered about depreciation. Watch case is too thin for the large crown so it digs into my hand quite a lot. Not the beast machining I've seen but it does look quite good on the wrist. Could've done with a ceramic bezel too.
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>>2570813
I agree, Breguet is really up there with the best. I'd put FP Journe and a few others at the level of AP, PP and VC, as well.
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>>2571652
considering that journe brand is only 16 years old and that it didn't exist until very recently, then honestly, there's no way it's time proven yet. And all the hype if essentially paid adverts. What will they be after 100 years. I've never held or seen one. No doubt they're nice. But if they go bust and the prices go down the toilet, then you might be sorry in 20 years having bought it. Also, who would service it if they're not around. If your answer is anybody can, then maybe they're not so special after all. Bottom line, they've got some nerve expecting the prices of PP and VC given that they're an upstart, much like Hublot but even more so. A lot of these odd new brands are for the guy who has absolutely everything, has $$$ to blow, and must have novelty each week or gets bored. But regular folk like me who have 3 watches are not going to venture too far afield. I cannot take big financial risks. So candidly, I don't understand the brand. Who exactly is the market for a Journe?
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>>2570057
Two hour hands for local and home -- really?Just because the price is high and it's PP, doesn't justify it. I'm not sure I love the complication. In 1975, I think we would have said wow to the idea. So, in 2016 is this combo the one that makes people rush out to get one? It's like they're trying too hard to be relevant considering the age we live in where the complication the watch offers isn't really a solution high in demand among the public. Supreme quality but a bit weird.
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>>2567724
Ugly and childish. It might be whimsical and fun. But it's not the accord consistent with the price. I dare not ask. I would be surprised to learn who walks in and says oh, another watch for $150k or more based on all weird characteristic so I must have it. Give any reason why this brand exists? Anybody?
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>>2571735
That's some word salad you just wrote.
"I've never held or seen one."
Ah, that's it.
You honestly, no joke, sound like an idiot when you compare FPJ to Hublot.
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and give you a real answer the price of which will be for you to actually cure your ignorance with some research. Ready? Here it is:

Imagine that A.L. Breguet were alive today. A genuine horological genius on that level. That is Francois-Paul Journe. The market is someone who wants an amazing watch with a direct connection to a living genius who actually designed the watch you wear and helped make it with his hands (and yes, he still makes watches himself). Not some connection from 300 years ago, but now.
And yes, Mr. Journe is a very smart man and while he has a few decades left, hopefully, he does have a plan for the continuation of his company. One hint to that is the watchmaking school he founded...

His tiny company (900 watches a year) has won awards from the Grand Prix of Horology as many times as VC and one more than PP (which is now making 60,000+ watches a year according to a source in the industry I spoke to, you can find your own sources to confirm if you like).

Read up on Journe, you might find yourself understanding why you might want to get in on the ground floor while the man himself is still making watches.
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>>2572413

I am not look to "...get in on the ground floor..." It doesn't appeal to me. Good for you that you like FPJ. FPJ and Hublot are both new brands and neither appeal to me at all. Let's distinguish between hype and glossy adverts you see in WatchWorld, and actual history. There's room in this world for both of our views. I shall further presume that you have much more money than do I to spend. I've been to CH before but do not go to the annual events for the watch world. I never claimed to be any kind of a watch expert. Like a lot of others here, I am just one man's opinion. Interesting to learn yours too.
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>>2567724
what exactly is the idea to this watch? What accords? or just tell us this... Why? anybody...
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> Trees >>2570501 >>2568140 are cool.
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>>2575922
this threads not worthy of page of doom... but who da fuck really knows
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watch this space... fuck im going dizzy
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>>2474486
>>2475402
Hey, so I just bought it, having managed to find a bit of deal (still the result of saving hard).
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>>2580000
>>2544366

Holy shit! Nice one. And you even went for the rose gold moonphase I suggested!

More pics needed.
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>>2580244
Well, not quite--it's the blue mother of pearl--but I did try on the rose gold you suggested! More pics coming.
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>>2580958

Ah so it is. Hard to tell from lighting.
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My FPJs together.

Need to take a pic of the mother of pearl in the daylight.
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Annnnd looks like the thread isn't bumping, see y'all another time!
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>>2581289
A woman told me that rose gold is in style now and for the last few years, but may not be in style in the future as much, so I was like "hmmm".

Rose gold looks great though. Very eye-catching, maybe a bit much at my work.
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