>>695274 He stole 6 million dollars apparently through drug dealing, apparently using labs reserved for the army, all while preching about muh morality. http://www.elciudadano.cl/2015/05/07/163540/justicia-determina-que-pinochet-le-robo-mas-de-6-mil-millones-de-dolares-al-estado/
>>695322 I am from Canada and I don't know who you are talking about. No province has ever had a Communist premier. Many provinces have had social democratic premiers dating back to the 1940s and continuing up to the present day. They have been no more "socialist" than the Labour party in the UK, which has been in power off and on since the 1940s too. Look for the political parties "Cooperative Commonwealth Federation" and "New Democratic Party".
>retarded electoral system put a communist into power with only 33% of votes >knowing that his hold onto power is shaky, Allende begins giving free weapons, training and equipment to paramilitary communist groups >with this new power basis at his side, he begins enacting radical reforms, attacking private property and, under Soviet guidance, begins the bolshevitization of Chile >the Congress asks the Army to step in the repeated violation of the Constitution >Pinochet takes heed and depose Allende >realizes that there are tens of thousands of Marxist guerrillas in the country and he must do something about that before leaving power >"free helicopter rides" ensues >handles economic policy to Chicago Boys, social policy to Jaime Guzman and just chills out >after a few decades, ask people if they still want him >under the brainwashing of communist school teachers and Marxist professors, the Chilean people refuses him >Pinochet doesn't cheat and just leaves power to commies
Now these commies want to change the Constitution and ruin Chile.
What Pinochet saved Chile from in 1973 was from a fate similar to modern Venezuela, but it seens like dumb Latin Americans really need to suffer in the flesh to realize that communism doesn't works.
>>697674 I'm sure that >10 years of regime wasn't necessary for the well being of what used to be a republic.
Yes, the commies did violate the constitution too but maybe, just maybe, if the state finished seizing the means of production from big multinationals we'd have more money here to finance decent healthcare and education, for example.
The current state of affairs shows that The Chicago Boys' little play pen is crumbling onto itself: I just want copper prices to plunge forever and more antitrust cases so we start exploring other options for markets.
>>697640 Also, as a followup (I'm also Chilean) Pinochet first economic policies were really, really bad.
He (and the clique of economists that studied on Chicago under Milton Friedman) brought Chile into, yet another, economical crisis during the 80's. This was caused by the de-regulation of the economical system which caused an extreme amount of inflation, plus the Banks, having little to none regulations asked the Central Bank of Chile (El Banco Central) money which they used to give away instantly and maintain a false idea of having a lot of (Cuentas por Cobrar - I don't know the exact term they use in English-speaking accounting, so I hope someone knows the exact term), but all this caused Banks to go into bankruptcy and the country was going into shit (yet again), since money was being devaluated and they had a fucking huge debt to the Central Bank that they couldn't pay.
Pinochet solved this by getting all the presidents of the banks into jail (this is true) and even the Minister of Economy at the time. Afterwards, he brought some less extreme economists that applied bigger regulations to the system (Hernán Büchi - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hernán_Büchi being the most notable and important one) to fix all of the shit. He was the one that allowed Chile to grow and now we have some of the most strict Bank regulations of the entire world (yeah, it's true). So no, Chile didn't grow because we followed stupid Friedman-esque policies.
How do I know all of this? I took a class of Macroeconomics under Óscar Landerretche - https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Óscar_Landerretche (He was minister of Energy under Eduardo Frei Ruiz-Tagle)
I just don't understand how these Austrian free market types can sustain their delusions. Their policies have consistently tanked standards of living since the mid-eighteen century yet they won't stop deifying ''the market.'' It's weird and can't be mentally healthy.
>>697734 What you mean, Pinochet wasn't a genious nor someone that did good on the country, he did everything because smarter people told him so (Jaime Guzmán being the notable one).
To understand Pinochet and give an opinion, you would have to understand the influence of his assessors and close people, not the man himself, because he is/was just another ignorant southerner of Chile coming from a martial family.
Pinochet himself didn't make the country grow, it was just other people pulling the strings, he was just a puppet that didn't like commies and I hope that that 4chan realizes that.
>>697747 He's actually pretty objective in how he teaches economy. He didn't go full central planning with us, he said that IF there was a crisis Keynesian economics are the best option in the modern globalized world, but if you have a really great system that has a perfect equlibrium, then go with a liberal economy.
He never really showed his true colors during the classes, except when he talked about the dictatorship because he hated it. I mean, this nigga was president of the CORFO, if he was super duper commie how would he get there?
>>697724 The term for cuentas por cobrar is IOUs iirc.
Yep, Pinochet did a bunch of stupid shit and now in the country we are just waiting for the old conservative cucks who support him to start dying from ass cancer so we can finally move on to a more social-liberal state.
Hell we didn't even have divorce laws until very recently: Chile is the most conservative country in LatAm.
>>697783 >given that "communists" were in power for 3 years and Pinochet for 17, it's quite remarkable that Marxist brainwashing was more efficient, don't you think so?
Latin American dictator never removed communists from the education system, that was their greatest error. It means that even if you kill current communist activists, the next generation still turns commie.
>>697783 I have heard about cybersyn but my impression is that it didn't get deployed for enough time to see if it worked. Spanish Wikipedia describes it better than I could, sorry if I can't help you that much.
Also worth noting: There were fewer votes in the election where Allende won because the rich cucks were all in their holidays: that's what they get
Nota bene: the only reason why I'm here communicating in a language that isn't official here is because I was born in a wealthy family in a class favoured by Pinochet that currently lives in one of the richest neighbourhoods in the capital.
>>697783 >communist school teachers and Marxist professors >it's quite remarkable that Marxist brainwashing was more efficient >communist school teachers >Marxist professors >In Chile Chile is not Europe, leftist academia is in constant conflict with reactionary academics INSIDE the faculty. This translates in conflicts between leftist student councils and right wing teachers almost every year.
>>697805 >Latin American dictator never removed communists from the education system Ideological bullcrap: http://www.archivochile.com/Derechos_humanos/doc_gen_ddhh/hhdddocgen0017.pdf http://www.ctera.org.ar/index.php/educacion/item/564-docentes-asesinados-y-desaparecidos-antes-y-durante-la-dictadura-militar
>>697921 You are forced to take English lessons in every respectable University of the country. I'm not going to give statistics (which you haven't provided either) but honestly there's a fair percentage of Chileans that can at least understand English, specially kids. Social class isn't as big of a deal, as it used to be in the 90's or even in the 2000's, when it comes to being bilingual honestly.
>>697908 Chile is an exception inside Latin America, it's probably the only country in the region that has an strong right-wing student movement, thanks to Jaime Guzman and his gremialismo.
>>697919 It's not "bullcrap". In Brazil, for example, the military dictatorship openly admitted it let communists occupy key positions in the education system and in the cultural industry because that would be a "escape valve" from their frustrations over exclusion from politics and economical decisions.
>>697966 >It's not "bullcrap". In Brazil, for example, the military dictatorship openly admitted it let communists occupy key positions in the education system and in the cultural industry because that would be a "escape valve" from their frustrations over exclusion from politics and economical decisions. Talk about being retarded.
>>697700 >funding your own expenses with other people's money >even better if those people's capital is not even based in your country Latin America, ladies and gents. Don't get me wrong, I'm also from this stupid part of the world.
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