>you will never slaughter the French colonialist dogs who oppressed and dehumanized your people simply to make a franc off sugar
does anyone else know this feel?
More like butthurt over the slaughter of their white folks, children included. Some women who were forcefully wedded to ex-slaves were spared but that's all.
These retards even killed the few white people who helped them rebel.
I'm anti-racist but I do have to wonder what owning a plantation of submissive slave girls would be like. I can understand why my ancestors chose this option.
You could pick and choose from the slave market, anon.
Two wrongs don't make a right anon. How were babies and children fucking responsible? They didn't even limit the massacres to slave owners, they killed the medecins, the merchants, all the white French folks of Saint-Domingue.
>Slaughter all the whites, including the women and the children
>Whites avoid your country forever, refusing to do any substantial trade with it, for fear of a repeat
>Country ends up dirt poor
>"WAHHHH! WE DID NOTHING WRONG!"
Enjoy your revolution, you monsters. I hope the slaughter was worth all the misery your people have suffered since then :^)
They were part of a slave system that quite happily killed black people and enslaved them for their entire lives.
That is like asking a white American to demand Jefferson felt bad about British causalties in the Revolutionary War.
The massacres were organised, it didn't happen right after the rebellion. I don't think Louverture would have ordered them.
Fucking Dessalines ruined Haiti by making sure France would hold a grudge.
The soldiers were said to have hesitated to kill the people though. Perhaps Dessalines had too much bloodlust, but don't think that every Haitian was a violent monster
You're right, why don't we return the haitians too slave rule where theyre treated like the dirt under the master's boot? stay butthurt
Did they chose to be white? Did they chose to take part in the slave system?
No? They're not accountable then. You can expel them from your nation. But killing them? That's a crime against humanity.
>But muh slavery!
I never justified slavery. It's possible to say that the revolution against slavery was justified, but that slaughtering children is wrong.
There were enslaved, killed and raped African children.
No one doubts the innocents of children but if one group of children where treated so deplorable why shouldn't the other children?
I certainly don't blame the Haitians as a whole, which is why I'm frustrated when people try to defend the massacres as righteous retribution. They were premedited, unecessary and in the end did much to hurt Haiti. Dessalines is wholly to blame since he had to make a tour of the country to ensure they happened.
Expulsing the slavers and letting those wanting to leave would have been enough. The slaughter was a terrible mistake.
>White oppressors aren't human.
Alright, I can't argue with you. Instead, I'll ask anyone reading this to consider why anyone would need to justify the cold blooded murder of children just because of their race. Again, slavery is a horrible and immoral institution and violence to overthrow it is justified against those who have chosen to perpetuate it. But violence is not justified against innocent children. It's a violation of their human rights, as well as something that is used as a rallying cry against the abolition of slavery.
I would say killing slavers themselves would be righteous retribution regardless of whether or not they posed an immediate threat, or if said killings were premeditated.
Killing their wives, children, and other random whites is unjustifiable of course.
Actually it did hurt the image of the Haitian Revolution a lot.
Instead of the heroics men fighting for their freedom and breaking their chains that they were, they were more often then not depicted as wanton murderers and rapists and a proof that slaves were in fact animals. You can't tell me that it didn't hurt the newborn country on a commercial level at the very least.
>Implying that after a revolution, you need to lynch everyone who may not be 100% on board with you.
Yes, because the old masters want to get back what they owned, by any means.
They could spread underground propaganda. Create counter-revolutionary cells, get in contact with the French government etc..
>Expulsing the slavers and letting those wanting to leave would have been enough. The slaughter was a terrible mistake.
Expulsing them so that they can start with slavery in other countries? Or so that they can defend their slave government?
That would be a bigger mistake.
This isn't really about ethics at that point. Its about strategy and tactics.
A reactionary counter-revolution always happens by the elite who want to get their power back.
>Yes, because the old masters want to get back what they owned, by any means.
>They could spread underground propaganda. Create counter-revolutionary cells, get in contact with the French government etc..
I wasn't aware children could do that.
You're just projecting modern values onto a bunch of slaves that had just freed themselves.
Why is it that ranting right wingers always make the...
>it's the current year
>everyone in history wuz ebul
>You're just projecting modern values onto a bunch of slaves that had just freed themselves.
But the massacres didn't happen when they freed themselves, they had to be organised and enforced by Dessalines since even newly freed Haitian soldiers weren't keen on killing non slave owners simply because they were white!
You're the one projecting anon.
The French government should have given the Haitians a bunch of concessions such as recognizing their independence and compensating them. Then could take the babies in return.
It was their fault they allowed a bunch of white babies to be raised by evil slave masters on an island full of disgruntled slaves.
It wasn't 2016, anon, no matter how loud you screech "it's the current year!!!" and think with your feelings rather than facts.
Have you actually looked that what the Transatlantic Slave Trade involved?
Nice buzzwords. But you have yet to adress the fact these weren't spontaneous killings by slaves fighting for their freedom (and thus somewhat excusable) but in fact premedited and organised slaughter in a large scale instigated by Dessalines.
This thread is so full of anger and butthurt :^)
Friendly reminder the Revolution was never about race, it was against the French and their refusal to acknowledge the rights of free mixed race men and affranchis.
Oge's Revolt was the precusor.
Anyways right after killing the French Germans and Poles were made honorary blacks in the constitution allowing them to settle followed by Syrians.
ehh you are talking shit (as usual)
I've been browsing /pol/ (and /new/) since the beginning and i've never seen someone mention reddit without people telling him to kill himself or gtfo. So yeah, you are full of shit and a liar
When will we get these heroes back?
Also the French imperialists never learn:
The New Dirty War for Africa's uranium and mineral rights
>ywn remove krauts in eastern europe
some friends of mine recently got funded to design a well for a hospital in Haiti. It was built and all then a couple weeks later some A hole paid some mercenaries to destroy the well. Which was a well for a hospital.
True fuckin story. Haiti sucks.
I think they didn't kill Danish, Polish, and German sailors who helped them but they were really brutal to the French, didn't spare the children or women unless they were married off.
What's even worse is when Haiti then decided to take over the Dominican Republic.
Did Haitians become better off post colonialism? No and neither did any of the African colonies.
But who cares, being ruled by people who are the same race as you is more important than things like food, clothing, crime, etc.
Nobody really cares about correct spelling and grammar on 4chan. That's only for stuck up and insecure people who don't have a point. Everybody gets what you mean if you spell "you're" instead of "your" and "are" instead of "is".
>you will never shake off the yoke of imperialism to know the delicious taste of dirt cookies as you starve to death
Dem delicious freedom fruits.
>tfw you can revolt without genocide or ending up as complete poorfags