>>688670 they are still humans anon not robots, they can always just break formation and charge furthermore you would never find just one formation, if I believe correctly each legion consisted of 2000 troops and there were always multiple legions together so you have several thousand troops to deal with.
>>688154 Because they would turn and face the enemy as they're still capable of oh I dunno turning? If the enemy broke into two groups and flanked both sides they'd break the phalanx into two groups and face them as two units or stand back to back and face them as one unit.
The phalanx wasn't the death machine a lot of history channel tier historians make it out to be and it really relies on having equal or more guys than the enemy. When they faced off against archers, calvary, or when they were outnumbered they got buttraped. However the Romans utilized much more additional support that made this less likely.
>>689944 Do you have any idea what you're talking about?
Besides the fact that you aren't specifying what type of phalanx you're talking about, have mistaken an anti missile formation for a complex shield wall formation, and misunderstand still that the phalanx is very rigid and cannot simply "turn".
Phalanx's had a wheel or sorts, but it would take far too long to wheel an oncoming flanking group, which is generally why they are known for their rigidity and failure once the Roman's began systematically crushing the successor states' massive phalanx based armies.
>>688169 I don't get it, does this paradox assume Achilles is slowing down in speed to match the pace of the turtle? If he's maintaining a pace of 100m per any unit of time compared to the tortoise moving at 1/10th that speed, it's obvious he'll over take the tortoise quickly.
The only way I can see this as an actual paradox is if both him and the tortoise are cutting the distance elapsed by equal amounts.
>>690106 no it was 5000 then changed to 9000 but it's also important to remember legions also had auxiliaries and many other support units that we're not included in the legions ranks. the actual army was much larger then the single legion
>>689968 Have you ever seen a marching band? Tight formation, still moves well. Contemporary illustrations show the Greek phalanx accompanied by musicians playing. This kept the hoplites in step and co ordinated.
As for the Roman testudo, it is a defence against projectiles on the advance. When within striking range, the formation changed by simply returning the shield to the ready position. Soldiers of the era would drill six hours a day. Every order that could be given was practiced in every possible combination. As Pliny recorded "The drills where bloodless battles, battle was bloody drill."
>>689898 No. He had a protege in his later years who succeeded him as leaders of his theater company, but their writing styles are clearly distinguishable (as Shakespeare's is form basically all his contemporaries') and the cases of shared authorship are clear and limited.
>>690852 HAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAH I'M GOING TO USE BIG LETTERS, BECAUSE THE SHIT YOU'RE SPEWING MAKES ME THINK YOU';LL HAVE TROUBLE IF I DON'T >Contemporary illustrations show the Greek phalanx accompanied by musicians playing. THEY ALSO SHOW HOPLITES RIDING DOLPHINS MEANWHILE, CONTEMPORARY WRITTEN SOURCES NOTE THE SPARTANS AS THE ONLY PEOPLE AROUND TO MARCH IN STEP, AND AS THE ONLY ONES TO DO SO TO MUSIC.
EVERYONE ELSE IS NOTED AS BREAKING INTO A SHAMBLING RUN BEFORE CONTACT. EVERYONE.
>Have you ever seen a marching band? >Tight formation, still moves well. THEY'RE FUCKING DESIGNED TO ALLOW THE PEOPLE IN THEM ENOUGH SPACE TO MOVE, YOU FUCKING RETARDS, AND THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY WILL HAVE TO DO WELL IN ADVANCE.
A PHALANX DOES NOT, AND THEIR TRAINING LITERALLY CONSISTED OF WEEKS OF FUCKING FOLLOW THE LEADER, WITH NO MENTION OF PRACTICING WHEELING MOVEMENTS.
THE FORMATIONS PLACE FILE LEADERS AND CLOSER, BUT NO LEADERS ON THE SIDE, AT FUCKING ALL. CONTEMPORARY CAVALRY FORMATIONS, WHICH DID EXPECT TO ENGAGE IN RAPID LATERAL MOVEMENT, HAD LEADERS ON ALL SIDES FOR THIS REASON.
ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE NO-I REPEAT, NO-EXAMPLES OF A PHALANX ADEPT MANEUVERING TO DEAL WITH A FLANKING FOE.
THERE ARE TWO EXAMPLES, IN SEVERAL CENTURIES OF WAR, OF PHALANGITES FORMING SQUARE AND TRYING TO GET OFF THE FIELD, BUT THEY ARE STILL NOT ABLE TO MANEUVER ON AND DESTROY A FLANKING FOE.
WE ALSO HAVE ONE EXAMPLE OF A PHALANX BEING ABLE TO RAISE PIKES, REVERSE FACING, AND RESUME MARCH N THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION-BECAUSE THE FILE CLOSER IS ALSO A LEADER. AGAIN, NO SUCH MEN ON THE FLANKS.
CONTEMPORARY SOURCES MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THE PHALANX IS AN ANVIL AND STEAMROLLER, AND LITTLE ELSE.
>Soldiers of the era would drill six hours a day. OH REALLY, FAGGOT? CARE TO POST A FUCKING SOURCE FOR THAT HILARIOUS BULLSHIT?
BECAUSE REPUBLICAN ROMAN FORCES SURE AS FUCK WEREN'T DOING THAT, BEING FUCKING CITIZEN MILITIA WHO HAD FARMS TO TEND TO.
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