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Let's talk about the Battle of the Somme.
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Fritz talked shit, got hit.
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Not enough arty support; Haig had been forced into supporting the French attack with a good portion of his guns.

Comms and timing problems: the Newfoundlanders started late, and wound up crossing over their own trench lines instead of taking the long way round by staying in the trenches; they were skylined for the Germans, some of whom sat on top of their parapets and shot them like so many grouse. (This was at Beaumont-Hamel, Y Ravine).
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>>679264
>Haig had been forced into supporting the French attack with a good portion of his guns.
Has he? The French had roughly the same number of guns as the British (1500 give or take) AND more heavy guns than them AND better crews AND better ammunition AND better observers (and better observing positions) at the Somme - I suspect a big part in their unqualified success in the opening stages of the battle - remember that despit the lack of traction north of the river by the British the French had mane great and steady gains and in the end the outcome of the entire campaign while not decisive by any means did favor the allies.
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>>679264
Why are the english so ugly?
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>>679179
Best thing to do would be post a few wiki articles to save people having to go find them. That way the thread will go faster.
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>>679264How young they look. And, without knowing anything about them, how little chance they had to grow any older.
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>>680426
Because they're all inbreed.
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>>679264
>>680419


le 30 juin 1916 :
Armée française :
- 14 divisions en ligne
- 1 550 pièces d'artillerie
- 115 avions
Armée britannique :
- 26 divisions en ligne
- 1 335 pièces d'artilleries
- 185 avions

The British army was too shity. This is why they've been completely stopped by a few German's divisions.


Only the french took they're objectives and advanced.
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>>679179

It was a major step on the learning curve towards victory. Although infantry tactics were pretty detailed, the battlefield was dominated by artillery. Britain lacked the necessary war industry to produce both the guns and ammunition necessary for a successful attack. Also the use of artillery as anything but a prelim bombardment was severely limited.

Another problem was the lack of communication once the men "went over the top". Difficult to analyse the progress of a battle when you can't communicate with your frontline troops.
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It was a brutal experience for the British Army, which at this point was mostly composed of Kitchener's Army, raw recruits with little to no actual training who were expected to make a breakthrough against battle-hardened regular German infantry divisions.

>During the Battle of the Somme German forces suffered 537,919 casualties, of which 338,011 losses were inflicted by the French and 199,908 losses by the British. In turn German forces inflicted 794,238 casualties on the Entente.

It makes it more depressing when the majority of casualties were British, at around ~400k. It was a slaughter for the Brits, reading about the Somme makes me feel so sad for the waves of young British kids who were just fucking shredded to pieces.
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Isn't this the battle where the Brits made absolutely earth shattering artillery strikes, but with shrapnel shells instead of HE or Concussion, so the people in cover just weren't affected much?
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>>680426
Not enough genes to go around on that little island.
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>>679179
I'm working on a ww1 animated shortfilm.
All ideas are welcome
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It was Somme battle, wasn't it?
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>>679179

tfw Germans destroyed the manhood of an entire nation in half an hour which forced them to join the Canadian confederation.
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>>679179
Great grand uncle died in the Somme desu, fell out of a guard tower.
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The Brits shelled the Krauts with 250,000 rounds and the moment the Brits stopped, the Germans came out of their well prepared trenches with minimum casualties and only gave 20 odd divisions several kilometers.
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>>681880
>>686386
This meme again

>probably being said by AMERICANS
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>>683865
yep. But don't blame them too much for that, they just didn't have any other types of ammo at that time, >>683647 speaks the truth
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Reminder that Ulster Irish Rifles were fucking based.
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