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Would a medieval-level society be able to kill a dragon?
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>>677294
>hasn't read Beowulf

Retard
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>>677294

Hard to kill something that doesn't exist.
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HWAET!
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>>677309
The implication of this thought experiment is obiviously that such a dragon would exist
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>>677294
Depends on the dragon. They probably couldn't kill smaugh, but maybe they could kill the GoT dragons.
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>>677314
Could they kill the dragon from OP pic?
>flying
>fire breathing
>intellingent and capable of speech
>pic related shows size in comparison to human
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>>677313

It's still such a vague, meaningless standard that it has virtually no answer. What constitutes a "dragon" has varied enormously across time, cultures, and fantasy systems. Like take this anon.

>>677314


He's wrong. One good shot with an arrow, or a sword thrust to the belly kills a LoTR dragon. A medieval society could easily down one, just have a few hundred archers or better yet crossbowmen aim and fire.

If you want the dragons from say, most standard DnD cosmologies, who are supernally intelligent, can turn invisible, take people over, in addition to the whole breathing fire and being huge, probably not.
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>>677327
Well then, wise guy, maybe you could tell us which sort of dragons can or cant be killed.
And if the dragon in OPs pic is doable for medieval people
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>the species which exterminated giant fantasy tier monsters with STONE AGE weapons and tactics couldn't handle a big lizard
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>>677333
>mammoth
>can fly, breath fire and is intelligent
pick one
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>>677338
Fighting a mammoth head to head is the closest thing in real life to fighting a dragon due to their raw power alone.
They could do that, with sticks and stones, so its fair to assume a dragon would be doable.
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>>677341
a mammoth can breath fire at you
he also cant just fly away when your attacks actually manage to annoy him
and he doesn't have human level intelligent and cant understand the concept of traps or use assymetric warfare againts humans
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this has no place on a board about history.
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>>677338
>can fly
We've killed giant eagles before
>breath fire
Beowulf's shield was good enough
>is intelligent
So are most predators, we still kicked their asses

What dragons are you even basing this on?

How intelligent are they? How thick is their skin? When must they eat? What is their behavioral pattern?
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>>677294
They didn't. Dragons were harnessed as weapons of war and were the equivalent of Ancient Nukes.

The Hwan used them to devastating effect against the Finns during the Hyper War.
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>>677353
>What dragons are you even basing this on?
How about Draco from Dragonheart, like OPs pic suggests
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>>677294
no dude dragons are basically super beings remember that. they fly, breath destruction and are at least on par with human intelligence
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>>677357
>use dragons
>still lose
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>>677357
Shut the fuck up, it was either unleash the dragons or have the fortress city of Yosae obliterated by the psychic powers of general Mieli Murskain.

I bet you're another apologist
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>>677360
So...yes?
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>>677366
Think you can hit a flying, moving target with it?
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>>677310
WE Wearð
CYINGS
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>>677373
i'd build way more than a single one
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>>677357
Didn't they use those faggy eastern dragons?
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>>677369
>>677357
Is this /his/ first original actually dank meme
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>>677374
OND SCITTE
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>>677379

As every shitty meme attemp on this board, it was imported.
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>>677379
IT'S NOT A MEME IT'S HISTORY YOU DENIER

>tfw you will never ride with your veljekset againts the hwan barbarians in the battle of meemkuia
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>>677377
>Faggy
That this is a virtual god m8.
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>>677400
The war itself was conceived here
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>>677327
This
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>>677379
>watch ancient ayy lmao or anything equivalent
>read chariot of the ayy lmaos or anything equivalent
>use what you "learned" from these to poke fun at /his/
>IS DIS DEM DANK MAYMAYS I HEARD SO MUCH ABOOUT?
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>>677294
St. George managed it pretty well
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>>677350
And hunter-gatherers didn't have crossbows and hundreds of men to give weapons to.
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>>677373
Modify it(so you can aim better) and you can. Especially if you have more than one.
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>>677341
A dragon is a predator, he has to kill in order to live. A mammoth doesn't need to be a skilled hunter
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>>677325
Still way too vague.
How much protection does its scales offer?

What does it eat and how many calories does it need to sustain its weight.

How often can it use its fire and how effective is it as a weapon?

How intelligent is it?

For how long periods at a time can it fly?

How hostile is it towards humans? Does it view us as prey, potential threats or ignores us completely?

Does it have any natural weakness that are easily exploitable? For instance it can only nest in certain types of terrain or it is extremely clumsy on land.

How territorial are they?

These are just some of many important questions that need answers before any decent response can be given.
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>>677475
Right.

Which is why the sabertooth tigers, cave bears, giant hyenas, dire wolves, and giant lizard monsters are still wandering the world eating people, huh?
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>>677327
>He's wrong. One good shot with an arrow, or a sword thrust to the belly kills a LoTR dragon. A medieval society could easily down one, just have a few hundred archers or better yet crossbowmen aim and fire.

But the most important thing that allowed that to happen was knowledge of a hole in Smaug's "armor". Much of the buildup to his character was the fact many people died trying to kill him.

Also, Smaug isn't the full picture of LoTR dragons. There were several different types, some who didn't even breath fire. The Dwarves in the high North actually killed a few of them, so there were essentially a powerful, but mortal and vulnerable large monster such as a troll.
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>>677294
Get a dozen of people with a musket and you're set.
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>>677327
There are no dragons in lotr.
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>>677491
Are you implying that human hunting had anything at all to do with the extinction of any of those?
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>>677710
I'm not implying, I'm informing you

Humans are the best killers on earth. Even when we only had sticks and stones.

Cavemen weren't idiot
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>/his/ - Traditional Games
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>>677722
"Misinforming" would be more apt, since you are wrong.

Prehistoric people were not idiots but they did not cause the extinction of any of those species.
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>>677749
It was a blend of human hunting and climate change
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Daniel Kills the Dragon
23 Now in that place[a] there was a great dragon, which the Babylonians revered. 24 The king said to Daniel, ‘You cannot deny that this is a living god; so worship him.’ 25 Daniel said, ‘I worship the Lord my God, for he is the living God. 26 But give me permission, O king, and I will kill the dragon without sword or club.’ The king said, ‘I give you permission.’
27 Then Daniel took pitch, fat, and hair, and boiled them together and made cakes, which he fed to the dragon. The dragon ate them, and burst open. Then Daniel said, ‘See what you have been worshipping!’
28 When the Babylonians heard about it, they were very indignant and conspired against the king, saying, ‘The king has become a Jew; he has destroyed Bel, and killed the dragon, and slaughtered the priests.’ 29 Going to the king, they said, ‘Hand Daniel over to us, or else we will kill you and your household.’ 30 The king saw that they were pressing him hard, and under compulsion he handed Daniel over to them.

Because you see, the dragon would naturally eat anything with fat, fat is salty and delicious. But by mixing it with pitch and hair, which would clump up into undigestable lumps and as the dragon kept eating the cakes, it eventually would rupture it's own bowels.

And before some idiot decides to claim dragons don't exist, try to remember that the word "dinosaur" wasn't invented until the 1840's, and prior to that, any sufficiently large reptile would naturally be called a dragon. That was the word for a terrible lizard prior to 1840 or whenever.
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>>677309
they are as real as dinosaurs
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>>677419
then why do they look so gay?
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>>677777
Checked
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Dragons are not big
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Dragons are not huge
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Dragons are not enormous
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Dragons are not gigantic
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Dragons are not massive
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Dragons are not colossal
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>>678105
Alexander looks so smug
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>>677309
>>677327
autism
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>>678105
>>678099
>>678094
>>678088
>>678083
>>678074
Finally somebody who gets it

The biggest monsters that mortal heroes fought in legends were usually no bigger than african elephants
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