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Were there any legitimate kings before Charlemagne?
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>>676122
Were there any legitimate kings after Charlemagne?
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Wuz we kangz and shiet?
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Considering that Slavs use his name as a word for a king, probably not.
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>>676122
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Were there any legitimate kings at all?
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>>676122
>legitimate king
What was an illegitimate king supposed to be?
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>>676122
Charlemagne is a meme.

>The hypothesis suggests a conspiracy by the Holy Roman Emperor Otto III, Pope Sylvester II, and possibly the Byzantine Emperor Constantine VII, to fabricate the Anno Domini dating system retrospectively, so that it placed them at the special year of AD 1000, and to rewrite history, inventing the heroic figure of Charlemagne among other things

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_time_hypothesis
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>>676193
>Phantom_time_hypothesis
>Phantom_time_hypothesis
>Phantom_time_hypothesis

>>>/x/
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>>676122
Literally all of them.
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>>676122
if you asked Charlemagne he'd probably answer

David
Saul
Alexander
Caesar
Christ
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>>676131
Nope, but monarchists never would admit that. The only legitimate governments where those of Republics and city States, like Switzerland, Venice or Hamburg.
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>>676231
Clovis
Merovich
his father, Pippin
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>>676240
>Merovich
Not confirmed he existed outside of Gregory
>Merovech was the son of the queen, Chlodio's wife; but his father was a sea-god, bistea Neptuni.
>>676193
>disproving the existence of Charlemagne with a hypothesis from a non-historian
One of my profs was actually one of the few guys fighting this bullshit.
>>676169
Good answer.
>>676237
Ah come one now. To put it in simple terms: Maybe the people wanted a king and were happy with him. Even by today's standards this is hard to describe as illegitimate.

The main questions is: What is legitimacy. The idea that only the people can legitimate stems from Western modernity (I know there were "democracies" before but in one of them were the people ruling since at least 51% always excluded from democratic rights).
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Many Germanic legendary/barbarian leaders of the first millennium AD were certainly appropriated by later histories and genealogies as kings. Their legitimacy would definitely vary though. Theoderic the Great would be a good example.
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>>676122
Yes, king Gylfi.
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I SHED THE BLOOD OF FRANKISH MEN
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>>676122

>What is Gilgamesh
>What is Hammurabi
>What is Xerxes
>What is any of the breddy gud Babylonian/Persian kings
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>>676122
>Kings of Armenia
>Kings of Ethiopia
They were Christian before Charlemagne too.
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>>676164

Tsar is from Caesar, not from Charlemange.

>>676122

Literally what. He wasn't even the first legitimate Frankish king.
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>>676914
>Tsar is from Caesar, not from Charlemange.
Oh my god you're stupid.
He said king, not emperor. Don't try to correct someone when you don't know what you're saying.
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There were plenty of Kings before Charlemagne.

East Asia: Qin Shi Huang, before becoming Emperor was "King of Qin".
Slavs: Alexander the Great was "King of Macedonia".
Middle East: Nebuchadnezzar was "King of Babylonia"
Western Europe: There were Merovingian Kings. Pippin, the father of Charlemagne was a King.
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>>676122
>any kingship
>legitimate
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>>676914
>Russians are the only Slavs
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>>676122
ISRAEL
S
R
A
E
L

WE WUZ KANGZ N SHEEIT
>Tcw no Emperor Solomon of Global Jewish Cabal Empire

;_;
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>>676674
I want Saxons to LEAVE
LEAVE SAXONS LEAVE
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>>676914
>>676922
>>677043
Charles -> King - Król
Caesar -> Tsar - Car

Example of town names including those - Tsaritsyn and Korolevec

Give SOG if I have helped
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>>676122
back in the middle east and india there were kings thousands of years before charlemagne.
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>>677043
South slavs use it as well, but it's pretty archaic
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>>677084
Witaj ananiaszu

We use the word "Car" specifically for Russians though, I think you meant "Cesarz", which comes from the word "Kaiser".
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>>676122
odoacer :^)
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>>676237
>b-but muh republics
Republicans will take any excuse to shit-post even when completely unrelated to the topic at hand.
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>>676338
regardless if you gone to Charlemagne's court and declared him the only legitimate king in history he'd probably be upset

lot of Frankish kings before him that you are probably shitting on
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>>676193
This is silly.
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>>677084
It's Kralj in croatian, and it comes from Karlo (Charles).
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>>677043
>>Russians are the only Slavs
lol. They are 80% Finno-Ugric.
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