>>670322 What do you mean? Going into debt isn't a choice? How is that? I can reduce spending, sell of assets etc. And on a personal level, yeah, it's not a choice. No person can directly choose to increase national debt, so it's immoral to force them to participate in a context that puts them in debt without them doign anything for it.
>>670345 That's not a great argument though, is it? When people were trading with sea-shells and exchanging goats this is how the contemporary economy worked, it's not set in stone. Also, I am asking IN THEORY. Would you agree that, in theory, it is immoral?
>>670359 So you're going on the assumption that people in 2-3 generations will be ecstatic that their state is in massive debt? Quite a proposition I'm not interested in an abstract argument that leads to muh epic moral relativism anyways
You can wait 20 years to save up enough money to build a hospital. You can get a loan, build the hospital now, and pay it off over 25 years.
You get to use a hospital for 25 years while being in debt, but the use of the hospital outweights the debt.
Debt for Governments isn't an issue unless lenders lose confidence and you can no longer borrow, this is why to always try keep a low level of debt, but a Government in surplus is a Government that is not spending its money.
>>670371 >So you're going on the assumption that people in 2-3 generations will be ecstatic that their state is in massive debt? Quite a proposition >I'm not interested in an abstract argument that leads to muh epic moral relativism anyways THEN FUCK OFF TO >>>/pol/ YOU ARE ASKING NORMATIVE QUESTIONS WHICH ARE NOT THE DOMAIN OF HISTORY, THE HUMANITIES, OR ONE OF THE HUMANITIES, POLITICAL ECONOMY.
YOU ARE A CROSS BOARD SHITPOSTER WHO HAS FAILED TO READ AND ADHERE TO THE STICKY
>>670700 Not even that guy, but this is a philosophy board. >Normative Questions aren't in the domain of Philosophy >Ethics is no longer philosophy >Anyone who doesn't think massive government spending is moral is from /pol/ >Anyone against moral relativism is from /pol/
>>670793 Ethics is not the study of the content of normative claims, or in fact of normativity. It is the study of whether universal claims may be made regarding conduct.
And it isn't about whether you hold with moral relativism or not, it is whether you make claims that are only comprehensible as a normative intervention in how people should act or not, ie: a political claim.
Form, not content you horrible fuckstain from an anal abortion.
Debt is a great way to turn future earnings into present prosperity, increasing future earnings while raising the standard of living. You just gotta make sure you don't burden your accounts with interest payments to much.
It helps when you can get half the world to use your currency.
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